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Old 05-01-2012, 09:24 PM
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Default Pacesetter 1 3/4" vs TSP 1 7/8" headers

I am not sure this has ever been posted, so I thought I would share this picture as I am upgrading to the TSP SS 1 7/8" headers. It is just a side by side shot of the Pacesetter Coated 1 3/4" vs the TSP SS 1 7/8" headers.

For the record, I have zero complaints from the Pacesetters, but I am very excited to try out the TSP's. I ran the Pacesetter's since 2006, when I was just a bolt-ons car.

I am also going from 3" Duals, x-pipe setup with 12" bullets dumped to a TSP SS y pipe, FM merge into a custom 4" single exhaust dumped at the rear of the car.

Props to Aaron at TSP for getting the headers to me so fast.

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Why go back to a Ypipe? I'm just curious.

I've installed TSP headers on a buddy's car, and by far the easiest header install I've ever done, and the quality is amazing. They can't be beat.
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Originally Posted by HoLLo
Why go back to a Ypipe? I'm just curious..
maybe to quite it down a little?????

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I've installed TSP headers on a buddy's car, and by far the easiest header install I've ever done, and the quality is amazing. They can't be beat.
this makes me feel better when i get a new set. the SLP's that came on my 01 are FUBAR
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Post up before and after dyno #'s. Beauty of a car too.
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Originally Posted by HoLLo
Why go back to a Ypipe? I'm just curious.

I've installed TSP headers on a buddy's car, and by far the easiest header install I've ever done, and the quality is amazing. They can't be beat.

Yeah to quiet it down some. With the 370, cam, 12.1:1 comp, Lt's, 3" duals with 12" bullets dumped, it is a bit rowdy. Don't get me wrong, I love it, I am just wanting something a bit more refined now. I had that setup since 2006.

Around here, I keep reading (newspapers), hearing about checkpoints where they are looking for any/all violations (including vehicle violations), along with the normal sobriety stuff. The way the car was, there was no way in hell it wouldn't raise questions that I did not want to deal with.

I should have done before/after dyno's but the car is already torn down.
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What are the expected HP gains going from Pacesetter to TSP headers?
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
What are the expected HP gains going from Pacesetter to TSP headers?

TSP did a back to back dyno of the 2 headers on a stock LS1 actually. It is posted here somewhere as I just read it the other day. Let me see if I can find it.

edit: Here it is

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...o-results.html
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I have tsp long tubes on my Vette and my Friend has pacesetter on his T/A both cars are nasty!!!
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I have 1 3/4 pacestter. Thinking bout buying some TSP 1 7/8 wonder how long the tso headers hold up over painted headers like I have now?
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Mine turned color already because stainless but not a show car so I don't care. Good upgrade over the 1-3/4".
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Originally Posted by M6transam
I have 1 3/4 pacestter. Thinking bout buying some TSP 1 7/8 wonder how long the tso headers hold up over painted headers like I have now?

Being that the TSP's are stainless, they should last MUCH longer. My pacesetters are coated, have about 10K miles on them, never seen rain, salt, snow and you see what they look like. The TSP's may turn colors, but won't rust away and I actually kinda like the different color tints of heated stainless.
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Originally Posted by Blu99T/A
TSP did a back to back dyno of the 2 headers on a stock LS1 actually. It is posted here somewhere as I just read it the other day. Let me see if I can find it.

edit: Here it is

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...o-results.html
Those were the old 1 7/8" headers before we got the better collector and velocity spike on them too!
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Can always put money it that Matt will chime in when talking about TSP. reason why I will ALWAYS check with them on parts first!!!!
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Have you put them on yet?
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Originally Posted by M6transam
Have you put them on yet?
Starting on that tonight. I have been cleaning the front 1/2 of the undercarriage and applying POR 15 to the bottom side of the car as a preventative measure.


FYI-Don't let POR15 drip into your eye. It really isn't too much fun running into the house, while stripping down to jump into the shower and use soap to clean it out. That stuff dries WAY too fast.
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Originally Posted by Blu99T/A
Starting on that tonight. I have been cleaning the front 1/2 of the undercarriage and applying POR 15 to the bottom side of the car as a preventative measure.


FYI-Don't let POR15 drip into your eye. It really isn't too much fun running into the house, while stripping down to jump into the shower and use soap to clean it out. That stuff dries WAY too fast.
been there, done that. i had to have my dad use paint thinner to get it off my eye lids.
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Originally Posted by Blu99T/A
Starting on that tonight. I have been cleaning the front 1/2 of the undercarriage and applying POR 15 to the bottom side of the car as a preventative measure.


FYI-Don't let POR15 drip into your eye. It really isn't too much fun running into the house, while stripping down to jump into the shower and use soap to clean it out. That stuff dries WAY too fast.


Safety glasses, bro!

I got into the habbit of not getting underneath a car w/out safety glasses....it came from getting sick of getting mud and rust in my eye when working on my Jeep.
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Originally Posted by StuntmanMike
Safety glasses, bro!

I got into the habbit of not getting underneath a car w/out safety glasses....it came from getting sick of getting mud and rust in my eye when working on my Jeep.

I know, trust me. I was frustrated with them fogging up (humidity/heat) and not being able to see.
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I can't wait to get my hands on these. I'm gonna wait and put them on with some poly mounts when I do the heads.
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Guess I'm gonna buy mine next month hopefully.


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