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HioSSilver
05-02-2012, 11:45 AM
Any suggestions? I have koni's/strano springs I'm going to swap in and thought I would put new bushings in. car has 111k on it. I don't want squeaky ones but some sort of upgrade would be nice.

sjsingle1
05-02-2012, 02:05 PM
you have 4 choices.......stock style rubber..........poly......global west bushings which require welding.......or get tubular arms with your choice of bushings

HioSSilver
05-02-2012, 02:27 PM
What about 1le bushings? Are they any different? I don't think I want poly because of the harshness. I'll look into the global west ones also. Thanks.

ss2nv
05-03-2012, 06:11 PM
Do not install a poly bushing on the rear hinge point of the front lower a-arm. It will cause the front suspension to bind.

sjsingle1
05-03-2012, 07:07 PM
i have had poly in mine for almost 2 yrs.......not 1 problem

LS1121
05-03-2012, 11:41 PM
Do not install a poly bushing on the rear hinge point of the front lower a-arm. It will cause the front suspension to bind.

Bullshit!!!!

HioSSilver
05-04-2012, 06:52 AM
Don't the poly bushings sqeek bad. They do on my mustang.

sjsingle1
05-04-2012, 08:16 AM
i greased the hell out of mine when i installed......i can see if people did not grease them how they would bind and squeak

StuntmanMike
05-04-2012, 10:57 AM
I would just go with stock style rubber, from someone like Moog. From what I've read on this board, pretty much anything else will squeek.

I just picked up some rear LCA bushings, I went with rubber Moogs, the "1LE" style. Which is basically just the solid bushing, and the only kind of replacement rubber bushing you will find. Some people refer to them as 1LE's. Not that I think there's a huge difference, I just wanted to replace my 12 year old stockers and that is what's available.

LS1121
05-04-2012, 11:02 AM
Don't the poly bushings sqeek bad. They do on my mustang.

Mine squeaked when I first installed them because I DID NOT LISTEN and use a lot of grease. I then removed them applied grease and everything is Great!! My car drives like a slot car lol.

lees02WS6
05-04-2012, 11:37 AM
Bullshit!!!!

I don't understand your reasoning. The caster bushing deflects because it's required, how do you think it works? It doesn't rotate around the bolt.

By putting in hard plastic your taking away the very thing it needs to function correctly. By the reasoning generally associated with poly, deflection = bad, you should put a del-a-lum bushing there, or jam in a solid brass or steel bushing. Then you'll get absolutely zero deflection.

Look at UMI, and BMR they build their a-arms with roto-joits, or rod ends in that location. It's not by coincidence.

Through deformation, rubber bushings allow a large range of angular motion along a primary axis of rotation. Some bushings pivot only along the primary axis, others along two or more axis through compression.

Unfortunately polyurethane bushing replacements sometimes find their way into bushings that require multiple axis of rotation. Nearly incompressible, polyurethane binds along any secondary axis.

http://www.elephantracing.com/images/techtopic/binding/primaryaxis180.jpg

Polyurethane is an inappropriate choice for such applications. Correct performance replacements for rubber bushings would incorporate spherical bearings ( for 911, 914, and 944) to provide incompressibility and freedom of motion on multiple axis simultaneously.

Axis of rotation out of alignment with mounts

Similarly, the primary axis of rotation of a suspension member may be poorly aligned with its bushings, due to accident damage or poor design/fabrication. This typically happens when the axis passes through two bushings that are not collinear. Alternately the bushing position may be changeable by alignment adjusters. If the axis can not be similar adjusted, binding will result. Properly designed bushing mounts will ensure proper alignment.

http://www.elephantracing.com/images/mounts/noncolinearaxis200.jpg

LS1121
05-04-2012, 12:14 PM
it's a 2 piece bushing and designed for this car. They are not made for walmart.

lees02WS6
05-04-2012, 12:31 PM
Two piece bushings are easy to insert with out the sleeve, but as for functioning it adds nothing.

Ironhead
05-04-2012, 12:45 PM
Bullshit!!!!


Is there a cult or hive somewhere that pops out one of these guys every 6 - 8 months?

:jest::rotflmao:

boostit5.3
05-04-2012, 01:23 PM
i would go stock, you'll at least get another 100k out of them and they for sure wont squeak... just my .02

LS1121
05-04-2012, 03:40 PM
Is there a cult or hive somewhere that pops out one of these guys every 6 - 8 months?

:jest::rotflmao:

it's your car do with it as you may. I do. :zzz:

ss2nv
06-16-2012, 12:24 AM
Bullshit!!!!

That's exactly what you're full of. You bought some poly bushing kit and now you KNOW that your car HAS to handle better.