View Full Version : Junior Seau commits suicide


-Ross-
05-02-2012, 01:52 PM
TMZ is reporting the former All Pro linebacker has died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Tainted
05-02-2012, 02:04 PM
Ahh the way of kurt cobain

BoricuaHec01
05-02-2012, 02:23 PM
Strange how TMZ is always first to know about deaths.

Gaunt
05-02-2012, 02:28 PM
Self-inflicted chest wound so he could leave his brain to science.

Admirable in a very morbid way.

01formula6
05-02-2012, 02:28 PM
Supposedly gunshot to the chest...and witnesses are reporting hearing multiple shots fired :eek2:

Damian
05-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Ahh the way of kurt cobain

Kurt didn't kill himself.


However he died, this is a sad day. Junior was a class act and a fucking awesome football player.

I read somewhere a while back that he was in dealings with a few mob bosses on some investments. Maybe something went sour and they cut off a loose end.

Sad sad day today.

mjs1012
05-02-2012, 02:35 PM
very sad. he was a hell of a player

infinitebird
05-02-2012, 02:57 PM
Kurt didn't kill himself.

:huh:

luvmeZ28
05-02-2012, 03:44 PM
:huh:

I think he is referring to the conspiracy theory that Courtney Love killed him. Which, honestly, I would not be surprised if it were true.



Didnt Seau try to kill himself by driving off a 30ft cliff a year or so ago? Very sad, fun guy to watch play ball.

The Mighty Texan
05-02-2012, 04:05 PM
RIP

The most unfortunate thing about suicide imo is that it affects others so much. It can seem like a solution to escape a problem but then that problem gets placed on friends and family and others around you. Not saying people are "bad" or selfish for doing it, it just is a sad situation in general.

Damian
05-02-2012, 04:21 PM
I think he is referring to the conspiracy theory that Courtney Love killed him. Which, honestly, I would not be surprised if it were true.

Correct.

They found Kurt with his shotgun neatly placed on his chest. If you've ever shot a 12 gauge with a loose grip, you'll know that story was bullshit.

Anyway, RIP to Seau. I've got a TON of his football cards, including a few rookie cards. I'll have to dig them up.

luvmeZ28
05-02-2012, 04:44 PM
Correct.

They found Kurt with his shotgun neatly placed on his chest. If you've ever shot a 12 gauge with a loose grip, you'll know that story was bullshit.

Anyway, RIP to Seau. I've got a TON of his football cards, including a few rookie cards. I'll have to dig them up.

Im a firm believer that she stole his song notebook and used it for that first good album her crappy band had. She proved she was talentless when it came to light that celebrity skin(the other "good" album) she stole all the credit for. Billy corgan helped her write like 80% of that album and she didnt initially credit him with anything, not sure if she has since.

78novacaine
05-02-2012, 04:45 PM
Damn, RIP to one of the greats.

myk
05-02-2012, 04:47 PM
:huh:

Many of us believe/know that his talentless harlot junkie piece of crap of a woman he called a wife Courtney had him murdered.

Anyway, my take on suicide is this: every person's life is the only thing they only ever truly own, so it's theirs to do with as they please. Be a pilot, priest, pro-baller, porn star, peace corps fool, whatever. You wanna kill yourself too? Fine, because it's your life BUT you no longer get to do that when you've got family/children that depend on you to raise and nurture them. On that note, Junior is a coward and loses his life with absolute dishonor. May God bless the people that depended on, loved and cared for him...

TheSilverOne
05-02-2012, 05:10 PM
RIP Junior. A football player who played the game it was meant to be played.

180ls1
05-02-2012, 06:03 PM
He now makes the 8th player from the 94 Chargers superbowl team to die..... kinda creepy.

-Defensive end Chris Mims died due to enlarged heart on Oct. 15, 2008 in his Los Angeles apartment. He was battling significant weight and financial problems at the time. He was 38.

-Linebacker David Griggs died June 19, 1995 in auto accident in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was 28.

-Running back Rodney Culver, 26, and his wife Karen, died May 11, 1996, when a ValuJet flight crashed in the Florida Everglades, killing all 110 aboard.
Linebacker Lewis Bush died Dec. 8, 2011 in Tucson, Ariz. of cardiac arrest. He was 42.

-Center Curtis Whitley was found dead due to apparent drug overdose on May 11, 2008 in Fort Stockton, Texas. He was 39.

-Defensive tackle Shawn Lee died Feb. 26, 2011 in Raleigh, N.C. of cardiac arrest brought on by double pneumonia. He was 44.

-Linebacker Doug Miller was killed by lightning strikes July 21, 1998 in Dotsero, Co. He was 28.

180ls1
05-02-2012, 06:04 PM
Might I also say RIP for a man who gave a lot back to the community my prayers go out to his friends and family.

JIBBBY
05-02-2012, 06:06 PM
That's nuts!!!! Dude hit hard for years in the NFL and that must have scrambled his brain into madness. He had money, family and friends can't understand why he did this...

TOO BAD.... :(

ULTIMATEORANGESS
05-02-2012, 06:54 PM
That's nuts!!!! Dude hit hard for years in the NFL and that must have scrambled his brain into madness. He had money, family and friends can't understand why he did this...

TOO BAD.... :(

at first i thought WTF are you talking about but theres some validity in your post. a few players have killed themselves and its possible it was connected to their injuries.


http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/959167/san-diego-chargers-former-nfl-star-junior-seau-commits-suicide

JIBBBY
05-02-2012, 09:13 PM
at first i thought WTF are you talking about but theres some validity in your post. a few players have killed themselves and its possible it was connected to their injuries.


http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/959167/san-diego-chargers-former-nfl-star-junior-seau-commits-suicide

Yeah.. The constant frontal head shots especially by linebackers that charge head first and at full speed to make tackles could very well cause some frontal brain lobe damage over time which typically shows up after retiring..

The old timers had it really bad as the helmet and padding was not up to par back in the day.. Hey but Junior played an entire career and life time practically hitting and playing at the highest levels...

You just don't know if this was football related or a genetic depression gene that he could not deal with after retirement..

I just took a stab at what might be the cause of this suicide.. :confused:

DoggyB22
05-02-2012, 09:21 PM
RIP to a BEAST linebacker... The guy was one of the best! I remember when he first retired & then came back to play for the Patriots! :) The world lost a legend.. He "supposedly" tried to kill himself after he was accused of hitting his wife & he drove his Escalade off a cliff which he said he fell asleep at the wheel. Either way its sad because a lot of people including his mom talked to him days before & they said he seemed happy. If only people could know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7U0Z4rT5P4

Predator
05-03-2012, 02:39 AM
This is sad. RIP Junior.

infinitebird
05-03-2012, 11:14 AM
Many of us believe/know that his talentless harlot junkie piece of crap of a woman he called a wife Courtney had him murdered.


As opposed to Cobain? :lol:

I will admit there are some unanswered questions about his death, but the dude was on a downward death spiral due to drugs leading up to it.

01formula6
05-03-2012, 01:32 PM
Do some reading on CTE (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy). More and more evidence has been surfacing over the last few years on how detrimental football really is. Same as Dave Duerson, he shot himself in the chest to preserve his brain. Unfortunately, posthumously is the only point when CTE can be officially diagnosed and studied.

In regards to improved helmet technology, it's more likely that it's making matters worse and is only a front to make it seem like the NFL cares about player saftey. No helmet can slow down the movement of the brain inside the skull...but a good helmet can allow players to use their head without getting "hurt".

SSCamaro99_3
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
Do some reading on CTE (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy). More and more evidence has been surfacing over the last few years on how detrimental football really is. Same as Dave Duerson, he shot himself in the chest to preserve his brain. Unfortunately, posthumously is the only point when CTE can be officially diagnosed and studied.

In regards to improved helmet technology, it's more likely that it's making matters worse and is only a front to make it seem like the NFL cares about player saftey. No helmet can slow down the movement of the brain inside the skull...but a good helmet can allow players to use their head without getting "hurt".

Yep. Removal of the facemask and reduced padding may be the only cure. You have to make it so the head can not be used as a weapon. In addition, the helmets primary design purpose is to prevent skull fracture that can lead to immediate death. I would say there is almost no chance of combating the brain damage without changing the game.

-Ross-
05-03-2012, 04:13 PM
Supposedly gunshot to the chest...and witnesses are reporting hearing multiple shots fired :eek2:

I heard he shot himself 9 times in the back...with a 6-shot revolver.

Detoxx03
05-03-2012, 04:19 PM
I was hurt when I heard the news. I was never a Chargers can or anything but I respected the way he played the game and what he did for his community. Whether he took his own life or not R.I.P to a good man.

01formula6
05-03-2012, 04:26 PM
I would say there is almost no chance of combating the brain damage without changing the game.

I agree. Increased awareness is another good option, but it will take YEARS to trickle down to the pee-wee level. While that won't prevent brain damage, parents, players and coaches need to be fully aware of the risks. Unfortunately from what I've seen, this awareness isn't even close to being "common knowledge" among parents and the general public.

BOBS99SS
05-03-2012, 04:55 PM
One of the best lb ever, there are football players then there is him, sad but if he did kill himself wtf,what did he have to be depressed about

SSCamaro99_3
05-03-2012, 05:05 PM
One of the best lb ever, there are football players then there is him, sad but if he did kill himself wtf,what did he have to be depressed about

Brain damage, dementia, and depression resulting from brain trauma. CTE most likely. CTE has a marked similarity to Alzheimer's with a buildup of destructive protein in the cells. The depression is a direct result of the damage.

itsslow98
05-04-2012, 01:51 AM
The hell with him, if you commit suicide you get no acknowledgement from me. He deserves nothing as a tribute either IMO. Pure selfishness.

Gaunt
05-04-2012, 01:54 AM
The hell with him, if you commit suicide you get no acknowledgement from me. He deserves nothing as a tribute either IMO. Pure selfishness.

Nothing is ever that black and white. Sometimes it can be cruel to force someone to live when they have no desire to. Not saying this is the case necessarily, but this seems to usually be a knee jerk response.

LCTA
05-04-2012, 05:08 AM
One of the greats of our generation for sure. Damn that dude had a motor like no one else. He seemed like a great person on and off the field too.

You gotta understand that if your gonna play the game, then there are inherent risks. There is no way you're gonna stop players from getting concussions unless the NFL changes to flag football.

dyls1
05-05-2012, 08:40 PM
Correct.

They found Kurt with his shotgun neatly placed on his chest. If you've ever shot a 12 gauge with a loose grip, you'll know that story was bullshit.

Anyway, RIP to Seau. I've got a TON of his football cards, including a few rookie cards. I'll have to dig them up.

Off topic but I thought it was a 20 gauge

z_speedfreak
05-06-2012, 08:36 PM
Damn shame.. A good friend of mine killed himself 2wks ago..totally out of the blue..saddest part was seeing the way it affected everyone. RIP jr, thoughts goes out to his family

Damian
05-06-2012, 09:01 PM
The hell with him, if you commit suicide you get no acknowledgement from me. He deserves nothing as a tribute either IMO. Pure selfishness.

I do agree with your point of view that suicide is very selfish. In the end, the people killing themselves ultimately hurt those left behind to deal with their loss. BUT....There are certain things that can trigger actions in peoples' minds that make them do things that they wouldn't normally do. I know this first hand. My ex-wifes father and I were best friends, and remained great friends even after his daughter and I split up. We were very close, very much like father / son. He was a very honorable man that loves his family, his grand kids, and himself. In 2008 he suffered a stroke that damaged his motor skills and the "reasoning" part of his brain that controlled his decisions. 3 weeks later, he locked himself inside his pick-up truck and shot himself in the heart. The man I knew prior to that stroke would've NEVER done that.

Moral of the story. Don't always judge someone if you don't know the whole story or what they're going through.


Off topic but I thought it was a 20 gauge

You could be right. It's been a long time since I looked into it. I'll never forget when it happened though. I was at school when the news broke out and all the grunge chics were saying they were headed home to kill themselves too.

JIBBBY
05-06-2012, 09:44 PM
^^^ If you commit suicide that means you are either extremely depressed and hating life and looking for a way out.. Or you are completely out of reality and your mind..

I saw Junior in his last interview and to me he seemed kinda bummed out.. Golf tourney he played for charity..

The guy is not selfish.. He donated his time and gave to charity his entire life.. Him committing suicide after his career was over is actually a selfless act in a sick sense if you are going to that extreme...

TheBlueKnight
05-07-2012, 01:14 AM
I agree. Increased awareness is another good option, but it will take YEARS to trickle down to the pee-wee level. While that won't prevent brain damage, parents, players and coaches need to be fully aware of the risks. Unfortunately from what I've seen, this awareness isn't even close to being "common knowledge" among parents and the general public.

Yeah, I was talking with some healthcare professionals at my work and they were saying how kids in pee wee football are going to be effected when they get older from a lot of the head hits. There was also a few studies done that show having 3 or more consussions raises your risk of alzheimer's by 4 fold. Pretty scary stuff. I've tried to bring up stuff like that to some people I know who have kids in pee wee and the general concensus is that it's kind of swept under the rug and ignored.

JIBBBY
05-10-2012, 10:27 PM
Smith speaks out!!!

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/05/10/12/Emmitt-Smith-worried-his-career-will-tak/msn_landing.html?blockID=726824&feedID=3742