Racer's Lounge - 300 Blackout

Everywhere I turn when dealing with AR's I can't help but run into the new cartridge, the AAC 300 Blackout. It's basically the casing of a .223, with a bullet of a 7.62. Does anybody have one? Since I haven't bought any car parts lately, I was thinking about taking the leap and buying one.

Because I go hog hunting in south texas with my family quite a bit, I can rest easy knowing I have the knock-down power of a 7.62 instead of a .223. I also like the low profile gas block, the KAC rails, and blackout compensator, all in one package.

So, if you have one, how do you like it? Should I blow all my money on it, or save up incase something more interesting comes along? I know ammo is almost $1 per round, but I think it would be fun to slap on every once and awhile. Thanks guys.

From what I have seen from my friends who have them, they work very well on hogs and with a silencer they are perfect.

Yeah but the downside is if I buy the upper, then I can't afford the suppressor for it. And vice-versa.

Ballistics are better out of a 8" or 10" barrel vs same length for 7.62x39, 5.56x45, and I think even 7.62x51. With a can, great round from what I have read/seen. Plus I think regular 5.56 lower and mags work, just need the upper and BCG. I have been debating on it, but until I start reloading, or more factory ammo comes out and price drops, still gonna build my AR in 5.56.

I might have to flip a coin on this one.

I'm also debating whether or not I should just buy a blackout comp. and then spend the rest on a can.

You aren't even 21 how are you planning on buying a suppressor?

It's a great round, just too much $ for me. Not worth it unless you reload, IMO

Buy a AK...problem solved:jest:

Technically my dad would buy it. I would give him the money, then he buys it.

Because I go hog hunting in south texas with my family quite a bit, I can rest easy knowing I have the knock-down power of a 7.62 instead of a .223.

What makes you think this is the case. All those numbers are are bore diameters. A 7.62 over a small powder charge that the 5.56x45 case will hold will not replicate a 7.62 in 7.62x51 form.

The ACC Blackout is designed for tactical situations to drive a heavy bullet at subsonic velocity from a supressed weapon usually at a soft target.

You may want to make sure hunting spressed is legal where you are.

It may work very well on hogs at extremely reasonable ranges. However, I do not consider hogs (or anything else with tusks and a heavily reinforced ribcage) a soft target. I would want a little bit more horsepower myself, but that is strictly one man's opinion.

Also supressor fall into a special ATF category that requires a tax stamp for transfers. If you Dad buys it, you will probably have to buy another $200 tax stamp upon legal transfer. May be beneficial to wait.

What makes you think this is the case. All those numbers are are bore diameters. A 7.62 over a small powder charge that the 5.56x45 case will hold will not replicate a 7.62 in 7.62x51 form.

The ACC Blackout is designed for tactical situations to drive a heavy bullet at subsonic velocity from a supressed weapon usually at a soft target.

You may want to make sure hunting spressed is legal where you are.

It may work very well on hogs at extremely reasonable ranges. However, I do not consider hogs (or anything else with tusks and a heavily reinforced ribcage) a soft target. I would want a little bit more horsepower myself, but that is strictly one man's opinion.

Also supressor fall into a special ATF category that requires a tax stamp for transfers. If you Dad buys it, you will probably have to buy another $200 tax stamp upon legal transfer. May be beneficial to wait.

I know about ordering a suppressor ;) but imo, the 300 blackout is going to be a lot better at taking down larger pigs than a .223.

I am going to work again this summer so maybe I can buy an M4-2000 in the fall?

Technically my dad would buy it. I would give him the money, then he buys it.

NEGATIVE GHOST RIDER.

You need to read up quite a bit on NFA items, and gun laws in general. That's called a "straw purchase" and is illegal in and of itself... Not to mention that if your dad's the one that buys the suppressor then BY LAW he is the only person that can possess or have access to it. When I say access, I mean that if he so much as leaves the house, it needs to be in a locked safe that only HE has a key to.

Doing what you're talking about is a VERY good way for both you and your ol' dad to do some time.

As far as cartridge selection... If you want a good round for hog hunting, look into 6.8 SPC.

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Don't worry, a couple felony charges is no big deal.

Dope

There are a few companies making a 243 wssm upper for ar15's, that would be my choice if i wanted a hot rodded round. That round will shoot a lot flatter and hit harder, the 300 blackout is kinda pointless imo unless its suppressed.

NEGATIVE GHOST RIDER.

You need to read up quite a bit on NFA items, and gun laws in general. That's called a "straw purchase" and is illegal in and of itself... Not to mention that if your dad's the one that buys the suppressor then BY LAW he is the only person that can possess or have access to it. When I say access, I mean that if he so much as leaves the house, it needs to be in a locked safe that only HE has a key to.

Doing what you're talking about is a VERY good way for both you and your ol' dad to do some time.

As far as cartridge selection... If you want a good round for hog hunting, look into 6.8 SPC.

Yes that's case. He is the owner of the rifle, he would be there whenever I would be shooting it. I guess that means he has to buy it and I pay him back? But trust me, we treat our firearms like silencers. Whenever I shoot, dad is always with me because he is the one that owns them. I simply shoot his guns more than he does lol.

I do not plan on buying anything illegal. Trust me.

Everything is and will be purchased by my father. I simply use his purchases while he is present.

"... he has to buy it and I pay him back?" THAT IS A STRAW PURCHASE.

And as far as the BATFE is concerned, you shooting with the can on is an illegal transfer, as you have possession of the suppressor and have not paid the transfer tax or passed a background check by the BATFE.

The only way around this is to set up a corporation or a trust, which wouldn't help you, AS YOU STILL HAVE TO BE 21 TO POSSESS A SUPPRESSOR. The BATFE's interpretation of the law is that if you're holding a gun with a suppressor, you possess it.

Do people violate the law? Yeah. Is it worth it? NO.

Besides, the wait time on all of your paperwork (Form 4, ect.) Would be AT LEAST a few months, and that's assuming your dad could even get your CLEO's signature. Oh, yeah, forgot to mention, in Missouri you have to have an FFL to own NFA items, in addition to all of the federal requirments.

I'm not trying to be a dick... It just seems like you don't know all that much about NFA stuff. Let me tell you, it is NOT something you want to screw with if you don't know the laws and what you're doing. It's possible to spend a dime in prison just for having a 10inch piece of shoelace with a few knots in it near a semi auto rifle.

Do yourself a favor and get something more suited to what you want. 300 Blackout wouldn't be anywhere on my list of cartridges for taking hogs... Personally, I'd get a DPMS chambered in 7.62x51mm (for your purposes, pretty much identical to .308 Winchester), or, as I stated earlier, a 6.8 SPC.

Nobody uses bolt rifles anymore? Pick up a .308 bolt rifle for the cost or a little less than an AR upper.

I have been looking into this as well, for my AR purchase upon my return to the states. Im looking at wilson combats suppressor ready models which come in 5.56, 300 AAC, 6.8 SPC, and 7.62x40. And Im leaning towards the 6.8. It has lots of great reviews, and more than enough punch to take out wild boar. Ill be doing some pig hunting in GA when I get home. Which is pretty cool, because you can hunt boar suppressed there. Ill have to pick up a couple tax stamps for suppressed and it being a 14.7in barrel. And take heed to the advice being given. You can end up screwing yourself if you aren't careful

Then I guess I won't get a silencer lol.

Buying 6.8 would be smarter. Ammo would be cheaper, and it still packs a punch.

Is 300 blackout worth it if i'm going un-suppresed?

NEGATIVE GHOST RIDER.

You need to read up quite a bit on NFA items, and gun laws in general. That's called a "straw purchase" and is illegal in and of itself... Not to mention that if your dad's the one that buys the suppressor then BY LAW he is the only person that can possess or have access to it. When I say access, I mean that if he so much as leaves the house, it needs to be in a locked safe that only HE has a key to.

Doing what you're talking about is a VERY good way for both you and your ol' dad to do some time.

As far as cartridge selection... If you want a good round for hog hunting, look into 6.8 SPC.

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Then I guess I won't get a silencer lol.

Buying 6.8 would be smarter. Ammo would be cheaper, and it still packs a punch.

Is 300 blackout worth it if i'm going un-suppresed?

Im fairly sure it was designed with shooting suppressed in mind. Who makes the upper you are looking at, and what other options do they have???

It's possible to spend a dime in prison just for having a 10inch piece of shoelace with a few knots in it near a semi auto rifle.

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google "NFA constructive intent".

also google "NFA registered shoe lace"




OP, 300 Blackout wouldn't be a good fit for you. The guys that designed it wanted more punch out of a suppressed subsonic weapon than the suppressed 9mm's that were/are in use.

If you want something that will knock a hog on it's ass with a vengeance, look into the .50 Beowulf. Those rounds will go through hide, muscle, and bone like a hot knife through butter. It's also a lower-velocity round, so you could suppress it later, when you're old enough.

Why not the 243wssm? It will be a lot more versatile when it comes to hunting and your going to want the extra power against the bigger hogs. That would make a good deer round also

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/398382/olympic-ar-15-a3-flat-top-upper-assembly-243-winchester-super-short-magnum-wssm-1-in-10-twist-24-bull-barrel-stainless-steel-black-with-free-float-handguard-4-round-magazine

Im fairly sure it was designed with shooting suppressed in mind. Who makes the upper you are looking at, and what other options do they have???

I was going to buy from AAC. I like how it has the low profile gas block, KAC rails, and the blackout flash hider. I have been looking around for another upper thats cheaper, and I might as well go for the 6.8.

If I buy a 6.8 upper, will it be compatible with the bushmaster lower and can I use 30 round pmags??

I just want to slap on the new 6.8 upper and go to town.

6.8 spc is compatible with a standard lower. Regular mags don't work, but 6.8 25rd mags are easy to find. In a pinch, I've gotten 223 mags to hold 3-4 without feed problems.

I'm pretty wary of the 243 WSSM. Those muzzle velocities with that light a bullet would give a good trajectory, but they're hell on a barrel... They can be a little finicky with feeding because of the sharp angle on the case, too.

NEGATIVE GHOST RIDER.

You need to read up quite a bit on NFA items, and gun laws in general. That's called a "straw purchase" and is illegal in and of itself... Not to mention that if your dad's the one that buys the suppressor then BY LAW he is the only person that can possess or have access to it. When I say access, I mean that if he so much as leaves the house, it needs to be in a locked safe that only HE has a key to.

Doing what you're talking about is a VERY good way for both you and your ol' dad to do some time.

As far as cartridge selection... If you want a good round for hog hunting, look into 6.8 SPC.

Technically, if the dad did a trust, couldn't the kid be able to be put on that (at least at 21) and use the suppressor without the dad being around, and would have an ownership in that NFA item?

Technically, if the dad did a trust, couldn't the kid be able to be put on that (at least at 21) and use the suppressor without the dad being around, and would have an ownership in that NFA item?

Yup, it would be perfectly kosher, so long as the kid was 21. Doesn't help the OP in this case, though.