View Full Version : is there an easier way to do plugs?


Casper97WS6
05-06-2012, 07:48 PM
:mad:I hate how hard t,a's/camaro's/firebirds are to do plugs. I mean does anyone know a easier way to do them?

F0x Slaughter
05-06-2012, 07:58 PM
Headers. Haha. I reach majority from the top the 8 cylinder from the bottom and cylinder 2 is best if you remove the alternator or use the spark plug socket with a wrench on the end.

WS Sick
05-06-2012, 08:41 PM
Well you could pay someone and you save yourself busted knuckles....lol

Z28Roxy
05-06-2012, 08:58 PM
Cut a hole in the firewall to do #8 :p

rad23
05-06-2012, 09:00 PM
Nope, bust up them knuckles and enjoy!!!!

Casper97WS6
05-06-2012, 09:43 PM
I have shorties on and it pis$es me off, lol I don't mind busted knuckles blood over paying someone to do it. Idk ill get her done just >-( mad that the literally stuff these engines in. I hated my ls1 for this reason Lmao..

F0x Slaughter
05-06-2012, 09:54 PM
Shorties are a waste anyways. Just go long tubes.

goldylocks
05-07-2012, 12:09 AM
I'm sure there are some good access shorties out there but I haven't seen any yet. Maybe the SLP's?

Plug changes drove me to doing long-tube headers as on of my first mods.... quick work now.
SLPs are horrible for access =(. On topic there really isnt an easy way to do it, just make sure you have one of those spark plug sockets with the end you can use an open ended wrench on. Makes it much easier

jsteele90
05-07-2012, 12:34 AM
1inch extension

Casper97WS6
05-07-2012, 04:22 AM
Yeah slp's are garbage throwing them away asap. I want long tubes, I've only owned the car for two weeks though lol.

bufmatmuslepants
05-07-2012, 06:19 AM
Adding long tubes and removing the AC, heater box and air pump makes it SO MUCH EASIER, but many people dont want to walk that road with their DD.

License2Ill
05-07-2012, 08:08 AM
Ok I cant speak on behalf of shorties exactly. Becuz i have the stocker manifolds.
But I knock down the Ypipe everytime now and after doing so....I can drop all the plugs with no busted knuckles in less than an hour. hell i think it might have been less than half.
I have done this now twice in a row. I will never go back to not doing it...I keep the ypipe nuts in good shape and wd-40 or the other silicon spray a few minutes before I knock it down. That takes about 15 minutes at most.
You can get to all 4 of the passenger side if im not mistaken from the bottom.
And on the driver side the rear 2. It becomes almost preference for the ones that were kinda hard. And for the hard ones well the difference is almost night and day.


do not touch the starter.
A reg. short wobbly ext may be needed and a reg short ext.
Drop the ypipe.

<=2hrs total. (Pre gapped plugs)

Z28Roxy
05-07-2012, 01:05 PM
Ok I cant speak on behalf of shorties exactly. Becuz i have the stocker manifolds.
But I knock down the Ypipe everytime now and after doing so....I can drop all the plugs with no busted knuckles in less than an hour. hell i think it might have been less than half.
I have done this now twice in a row. I will never go back to not doing it...I keep the ypipe nuts in good shape and wd-40 or the other silicon spray a few minutes before I knock it down. That takes about 15 minutes at most.
You can get to all 4 of the passenger side if im not mistaken from the bottom.
And on the driver side the rear 2. It becomes almost preference for the ones that were kinda hard. And for the hard ones well the difference is almost night and day.


do not touch the starter.
A reg. short wobbly ext may be needed and a reg short ext.
Drop the ypipe.

<=2hrs total. (Pre gapped plugs)

I can't remember if I drop the starter or not to do #6 and #8 but I think I do. I have only done plugs with LTs though.

Also you have to pull the alternator to get plug #2 IIRC.

WS Sick
05-07-2012, 02:01 PM
I do them all from the top, for #6 I have a cut-down socket that I use a wrench on, 2 and 4 I can do with a ratchet, the rest are with regular length socketand wrench.

Casper97WS6
05-07-2012, 03:00 PM
Yeah I can do the drivers side no problem with a socket wrench and socket. I'm gonna try the passenger side today LOL! I almost want to order long tubes before even doing it. But I was also thinking about taking one of my older spark plug sockets and welding a gear wrench onto it so it is like a socket wrench LOL!

gregrob
05-07-2012, 07:15 PM
All you need to do is make a copy of the SLP spark plug socket.

Casper97WS6
05-07-2012, 09:47 PM
Yeah I pry will Calvin still throwing these shorties away as soon as I buy a set of long tubes

gregrob
05-07-2012, 09:53 PM
You could better spend money elsewhere.. are they shorties or mids. 1 5/8 or 1 3/4?

I went 11.50s at 7500 DA with plenty more left with 1 3/4 mids.

pillarpod
05-07-2012, 10:49 PM
:mad:I hate how hard t,a's/camaro's/firebirds are to do plugs. I mean does anyone know a easier way to do them?

think its hard now, put TFS 21* heads on your car and try changing them then

lncboytre_d
05-08-2012, 02:47 AM
2,4,6,8,1,&3 from the top. I have Pacesetter LT and all I use is a spark plug socket and a 3/4" wrench. I do not remove the alternator or anything from the right side. To access 5 &7 I put the car in the air...takes another 15 minutes start to finish on those two plugs. The entire job can be done in 45 minutes once you do it a couple of times. I used to dread doing plugs, now I change them once sometimes twice a month depending on the # of times I go to the track.

reservoirdogs12
05-08-2012, 01:33 PM
Get a set of Metric Deep-well sockets and a set of extensions with various lengths from harbor freight: 30ish dollars. A 2 foot serpentine belt tensioner tool (essentially a slim 3/8 drive breaker bar-esque thing) also helped me get leverage when removing plugs from the top.

pro94lt
05-08-2012, 09:54 PM
with the right headers and over a dozen plug changes anything over 30 minutes is to long... I remember the days of plugs taking hours...

Casper97WS6
05-10-2012, 05:09 AM
Yeah I mean I have tools I just can't sacrifice one of my tools at the shop to work on my car. lol I'm gonna talk to my matco dealer tomorrow and see what he can do for me tool wise to make it a bit easier.

Casper97WS6
05-10-2012, 05:11 AM
You could better spend money elsewhere.. are they shorties or mids. 1 5/8 or 1 3/4?

I went 11.50s at 7500 DA with plenty more left with 1 3/4 mids.

No Calvin there the straight up shorties that are stupid and have all the emissions built into them. And I belive they are the 1 5/8's and not the 3/4 I was looking at the pacesetters with the off road their not to pricey 550 for both shipped.

blakez28
05-10-2012, 06:29 AM
Tubular K member, Longtube headers, removed all emissions.
It's easier than a Honda Civic now :burn:

License2Ill
05-10-2012, 07:58 AM
with the right headers and over a dozen plug changes anything over 30 minutes is to long... I remember the days of plugs taking hours...

which headers are you talking about? can anyone else recommend 30 minute plug swap headers?

I'd like to go long tube maybe someday. if not due to this i was going to port the stock manifolds and call it a day. Im not spending hours to swap out plugs and from what Ive seen lt headers call for hours sometimes too.

Z28Roxy
05-10-2012, 08:13 AM
which headers are you talking about? can anyone else recommend 30 minute plug swap headers?

I'd like to go long tube maybe someday. if not due to this i was going to port the stock manifolds and call it a day. Im not spending hours to swap out plugs and from what Ive seen lt headers call for hours sometimes too.

Almost any LT headers are good for plug changes from what I've heard. I run pacesetter LTs myself.

License2Ill
05-10-2012, 08:38 AM
Almost any LT headers are good for plug changes from what I've heard. I run pacesetter LTs myself.

On some depending on brand or model the exh tube wraps around the plugs pretty close making it a bitch to take off and also burning the plug boots.

355z28
05-10-2012, 08:51 AM
Purchase a 5/8s sparkplug socket with the 5/8s hex head on it instead of the 3/4" cut it down a little bit so its shorter. I do the majority of mine with that socket and a wrench, on the real easy ones I use a rachet. It takes about 30 minutes.

After you get a tubular K-member the passenger side becomes pretty damn easy

96TransAmboosted
05-10-2012, 11:22 AM
I use a 1inch swivel spark plug socket for most. For the rest i use a 19mm gear wrench and a spark plug socket cut in half. Makes life easy as pie.

Casper97WS6
05-10-2012, 03:27 PM
where's a good place to buy a tublar k?

355z28
05-10-2012, 03:41 PM
UMI, BMR, PA, AJE.... But are you sure you want to spend $450 to Save 15 minutes of time?

lethal bird
05-10-2012, 03:46 PM
Took me about 30-45 min with pacesetter headers. All from up to with a spark plug socket.

baalic
05-10-2012, 03:49 PM
I can do all 8 now in about 45 minutes.... Only doing the number 8 from
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