Forced Induction - Procharger guys 1 7/8 headers or 2
js2fst
05-07-2012, 08:48 PM
Ok 1 7/8 or 2 in headers these are my questions! On a lowered vert and a iron block Procharger clearance issues? Gains?
dschmittie1
05-07-2012, 08:56 PM
what size is the motor. 1 7/8 should be enough though
+badss+
05-07-2012, 08:59 PM
I went tsp 1 7/8 lq9 f1 I'm going for 800+ I'm 390 ci
js2fst
05-07-2012, 09:22 PM
408 f1-c or r not sure yet! 4l80e and 9 in stock k
Member for now but I will put my bmr in when I get the a arms.
LS1RedZ
05-07-2012, 10:06 PM
How about 1 7/8 stepped to 2". Best of both haha
Blown06
05-08-2012, 12:00 AM
The guys in "the know" will tell you there is no such thing as "too big" of an exhaust on a blown application.
The typical N/A principles are thrown out the window with FI.
Bob@BruteSpeed
05-08-2012, 05:58 AM
Ok 1 7/8 or 2 in headers these are my questions! On a lowered vert and a iron block Procharger clearance issues? Gains?
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Brute-Speed-Forced-Induction-Camshaft-FREE-SHIPPING-Brute-Speed-Camshaft.htm
Take a look at the dyno graph at the above link. This is an LS2/402 and is using Kooks 1-7/8 headers. Bob
LS1RedZ
05-08-2012, 07:27 AM
Yeah prochargers like to get the air out fast! I picked up almost 70rwhp by opening my cutout. I'm prolly going to pick up some 1 7/8 kooks myself with the new toy. I have pacesetter 1 3/4 headers right now.
hellbents10
05-08-2012, 08:05 AM
2" would be my choice.
blue00ZZleeper
05-08-2012, 10:56 AM
2" if you can. As everyone has said, procharged cars need to breathe! The quicker and more efficiently you can get rid of the exhaust, the better.
The Alchemist
05-08-2012, 12:05 PM
What about someone like me with a stock cube motor with a D1? I currently have 1 3/4 QTP's so should I jump up to 2" or go to 1 7/8?
fatmat80
05-08-2012, 12:23 PM
I have stock cubes here as well Alchemist..I went with 1 7/8 ARH and picked up 35 rwhp over my 1 3/4 i had previously. For a all out build I would go with the 2 inch primaries, however on a street/strip build my vote is for 1 7/8.. mainly for clearance issues as is a concern for the op.
dschmittie1
05-08-2012, 12:30 PM
I have stock cubes here as well Alchemist..I went with 1 7/8 ARH and picked up 35 rwhp over my 1 3/4 i had previously. For a all out build I would go with the 2 inch primaries, however on a street/strip build my vote is for 1 7/8.. mainly for clearance issues as is a concern for the op.
What headers did you have before and did anything else change in the exhaust? Thats a pretty impressive gain
fatmat80
05-08-2012, 12:38 PM
1 3/4 Pacesetters and tsp off road y 3 inch flowmaster catback. (before)
1 7/8 ARH headers and ARh off road y 3 inch slp loudmouth 2 catback (after)
I am looking for my graph but if i am not mistaken I also picked up about the same in rwtq as well. I want to say my peak tq before was 547 ft/lbs and now I am sitting at approx 575.
35thsscamaro02
05-08-2012, 12:40 PM
1 3/4 Pacesetters and tsp off road y 3 inch flowmaster catback. (before)
1 7/8 ARH headers and ARh off road y 3 inch slp loudmouth 2 catback (after)
I am looking for my graph but if i am not mistaken I also picked up about the same in rwtq as well. I want to say my peak tq before was 547 ft/lbs and now I am sitting at approx 575.
Damn I guess I'll have to ditch my qtp headers when I switch motors and max out the d1
dschmittie1
05-08-2012, 12:41 PM
1 3/4 Pacesetters and tsp off road y 3 inch flowmaster catback. (before)
1 7/8 ARH headers and ARh off road y 3 inch slp loudmouth 2 catback (after)
I am looking for my graph but if i am not mistaken I also picked up about the same in rwtq as well. I want to say my peak tq before was 547 ft/lbs and now I am sitting at approx 575.
Well not to discount the gains you saw but when people see gains NA from switching out a flowmaster cat back it is no doubt that it would hurt an FI motor
02gangsta/ss
05-08-2012, 12:44 PM
1 3/4 Pacesetters and tsp off road y 3 inch flowmaster catback. (before)
1 7/8 ARH headers and ARh off road y 3 inch slp loudmouth 2 catback (after)
I am looking for my graph but if i am not mistaken I also picked up about the same in rwtq as well. I want to say my peak tq before was 547 ft/lbs and now I am sitting at approx 575.
i agree 1 7/8 american racing headers are the way to go ...more on the pricey side but imo worth it same ones im running with my d1sc
LS1RedZ
05-08-2012, 02:02 PM
Y'all think kooks and ARH are the same quality and performance wise?
Are you folks rebelting to get these gains.
I'm asking because I used to have a cutout on the car at the 4" to 3" transition on the Y. I actually took it off because it never picked up anything on the dyno when I opened it up. All it did was move my boost around.
I run the stock cat-back with the stock over-axle piping - so its not free flowing with the cutout closed.
LS1RedZ
05-10-2012, 12:42 PM
Any dyno sheets out there in the different size headers? I'm goin F1A on my 370 and I want to swap headers. What size would benefit me y'all think?
South
01-15-2013, 12:01 PM
Yeah prochargers like to get the air out fast! I picked up almost 70rwhp by opening my cutout. I'm prolly going to pick up some 1 7/8 kooks myself with the new toy. I have pacesetter 1 3/4 headers right now.
Where do you have your cutout placed?
6D9 Matt
01-15-2013, 07:39 PM
Im going to be dropping a 416 in the Camaro soon, and hopefully a procharger before long... Im between this as well.
LS1RedZ
01-18-2013, 08:46 AM
Where do you have your cutout placed?
About 12-18" behind the merge of the Y.
ajrothm
01-18-2013, 09:17 AM
If you're having to buy a new set of headers anyway, there is no reason to not get 2", if you're running a blower that is.. I might not would change from a 1 3/4 or 1 7/8" up to 2" but....if it was new header time, it would be 2" ARH for sure.
6D9 Matt
01-20-2013, 06:42 PM
Im between the 2" and 1 7/8" headers for a procharged 416 setup. Is the ground clearance that much different on the 2" from the 1 7/8s? Its going in a 69 Camaro that is already lowered pretty good.
V-seriesTech
01-20-2013, 08:25 PM
Ditching the 1 7/8 and going to 2 on an F1X build we're doing. Figured that would be the restriction at this point....fwiw
If you already have 1 7/8 stick with them, if you are buying new do 2".