View Full Version : Bolt-on 99 z28 vs bolt-on pullied 04 cobra


sweet99ss
05-12-2012, 10:40 PM
After a local car show a bunch of nice cars were hanging out at the park when someone ask's me if I wanna race an 04 Cobra. I have been wanting to run one for awhile now so I say hell yea. Anyways after this we go over to his blue 04 cobra and he than takes off his stock wheels and puts on his drag slicks. While this is happening one of his friends tells me he has pulley, intake, exhaust and a dyno tune and makes 450rwhp. I dyno in about 360hp off nitrous so I figure I will spray him and have a badass win! Well anyway we get out and race and this is what happens

30-130
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98wCyb6UjkM&list=UUi1dudkL1GxpNGxTvg1ZO8A&index=1&feature=plcp

As you can see my nitrous failed to hit and he pulled a couple cars on me when I shifted to 3rd at about 105. After we got stopped it sounded like my tire was deflating and I get over and my nitrous line is setting on my exhaust and my n20 is spraying straight out :bang:. I think I held up really good considering what he has. If I would have sprayed I really think I would have pulled him a pretty good amount. I will be looking for another race when I get my n2o hooked back up!

snake95
05-12-2012, 10:42 PM
Honorable death.

sweet99ss
05-12-2012, 10:53 PM
Honorable death.

Thanks, it was a shit load of fun. 50 cars or so went out to this lonely stretch of highway we call "old 54" and we were racing for a couple hours! There was an 06 srt-10 viper, a 580rwhp 2jz, built evo's/sti's and ALOT of other badass cars. I also raced a nice looking nova from a launch and spun like a bitch. Not sure what all he had done, but he had slicks to my radials so after I got done spinning through first gear I cought up to him pretty quick and ended it about even.

siLversLeigh
05-12-2012, 11:12 PM
Whats the point of slicks for roll racing in a 450rwhp car?

sweet99ss
05-12-2012, 11:19 PM
Whats the point of slicks for roll racing in a 450rwhp car?

Seriously :confused: From a 30 roll he would need either a really damn good drag radial or a slick. It wasn't all just roll racing going on either... Not really sure why someone wouldn't wanna run a slick while street racing in a 450rwhp car... It's about the only way to get good traction, but anywayz back to the thread lol

Jay z28
05-12-2012, 11:48 PM
wtf. You shift into 4th at 105?? Auto or 6spd? Any other info? Gears?

sweet99ss
05-12-2012, 11:59 PM
wtf. You shift into 4th at 105?? Auto or 6spd? Any other info? Gears?

Auto and sorry I ment the converter locks at 105

Stopsign32v
05-12-2012, 11:59 PM
Whats the point of slicks for roll racing in a 450rwhp car?

How much rotational weight do you think would be removed by going to 17-18" wheels with radials to 15" wheels with bias plys? Use your head

Also on the street ET Drags actually stuck for traction.

CyberGrey Z28
05-13-2012, 12:18 AM
Did damn well for only 360rwhp. Post up the rematch when you spray :burn:

sweet99ss
05-13-2012, 12:34 AM
Did damn well for only 360rwhp. Post up the rematch when you spray :burn:

Thats what I thought.... He pulled pretty good up top, but I didn't do to bad down low... I think I am a couple hundred lbs lighter than him as well. As soon as I get my feed line fixed we are going to have a rematch!

Heater
05-13-2012, 01:03 AM
Good death for sure.


Unless his car is a Mystic, it should be a 03.

s346k
05-13-2012, 08:43 AM
wow, good death. especially to a stick car making 90whp more than you are.

adder to adder will be no contest.

flattusmaximus78
05-13-2012, 09:49 AM
How much rotational weight do you think would be removed by going to 17-18" wheels with radials to 15" wheels with bias plys? Use your head

Also on the street ET Drags actually stuck for traction.

Not enough rotational weight to really do shit from a roll. Not to mention if those are 28"s, that car is only going to be slower with a stock gear.

Good run op, you would wreck that cobra on spray.

Heater
05-13-2012, 10:45 AM
wow, good death. especially to a stick car making 90whp more than you are.

adder to adder will be no contest.


Don't forget that the Cobra weighs around 200 more pounds than a 4th Gen.

GMC5.3
05-13-2012, 11:26 AM
Nice run, guy looks like he can barely see over the steering wheel lol

s346k
05-13-2012, 12:37 PM
Don't forget that the Cobra weighs around 200 more pounds than a 4th Gen.umm ok. not that it makes a bit of difference. not like you lose a race and say: i just got drug, but im heavier...none of that matters. 2 cars race and one wins, period.

MrDavid
05-13-2012, 01:21 PM
Your bolt'on 99 SS makes 360whp through a stalled A4.... with a nitrous tune?

2SSARME
05-13-2012, 03:24 PM
popcorn

GXPPOWER
05-13-2012, 03:33 PM
umm ok. not that it makes a bit of difference. not like you lose a race and say: i just got drug, but im heavier...none of that matters. 2 cars race and one wins, period.

if weight doesn't matter then neither do modifications of any kind. so lets just all ignore the differences in any car. because "two cars race and one wins period". Im not sure if your a ricer or a :mullet: wielder

s346k
05-13-2012, 04:02 PM
if weight doesn't matter then neither do modifications of any kind. so lets just all ignore the differences in any car. because "two cars race and one wins period". Im not sure if your a ricer or a :mullet: wielderlol really?

so when you lose a race at the track you find your opponent..then compare every aspect of the car?

how do they run quick 16 and heads up classes. that must not be...fair?

Heater
05-13-2012, 04:18 PM
lol really?

so when you lose a race at the track you find your opponent..then compare every aspect of the car?



You are the one that brought up the horsepower difference, so it would only be right to bring weight into it also.

When looking up a cars time on a E.T calculator, you have to have H.P and weight.

sweet99ss
05-13-2012, 04:22 PM
I agree with heater and I don't really see where the argument is coming from. Someone said that I kept up good for the 90hp difference and he pointed out that it weighs a couple hundred lbs more than an f-body wich is true.....

sweet99ss
05-13-2012, 04:26 PM
Your bolt'on 99 SS makes 360whp through a stalled A4.... with a nitrous tune?

My full bolt-on Z28 makes 360rwhp on n/a tune. I do not use nitrous tune. I have a timing puller... I trapped 110 in almost 3000ft d/a. It has 113+ traps in it with good air. It weighs about 3400lbs also.

Heater
05-13-2012, 04:26 PM
Honestly, I think it's cooler to see a race between the F-Body and the Mustang with the F-Body off the bottle and then one with the F-Body on the bottle to see exactly the comparison.


To me it's just cooler to see what the bottle does in comparison.

sweet99ss
05-13-2012, 04:30 PM
Honestly, I think it's cooler to see a race between the F-Body and the Mustang with the F-Body off the bottle and then one with the F-Body on the bottle to see exactly the comparison.


To me it's just cooler to see what the bottle does in comparison.

Yea I have a video of me racing a cammed/bolt-on ws6 before and after nitrous and the difference is huge. I should have another race with this guy as soon as I get a new feed line

Heater
05-13-2012, 04:33 PM
I hope that you get to run him soon, even though I honestly think that you're going to rape him on the bottle. Should be a kick ass video if you can get him to race you again.

s346k
05-13-2012, 04:38 PM
what about a dig race? can you scrounge up some tires? it seems he has that under control haha.

sweet99ss
05-13-2012, 06:01 PM
what about a dig race? can you scrounge up some tires? it seems he has that under control haha.

Unless somone would let me barrow some tires prob not... I would win anyways... 6-speed vs stalled auto = no competition :nod: I have nt05r's btw

siLversLeigh
05-13-2012, 06:26 PM
Seriously :confused: From a 30 roll he would need either a really damn good drag radial or a slick. It wasn't all just roll racing going on either... Not really sure why someone wouldn't wanna run a slick while street racing in a 450rwhp car... It's about the only way to get good traction, but anywayz back to the thread lol

Mixing radials and bias plys is dangerous plus 450 rwhp isnt going to overpower M/T DR's. Trust me I'm an expert. LOL

How much rotational weight do you think would be removed by going to 17-18" wheels with radials to 15" wheels with bias plys? Use your head

Also on the street ET Drags actually stuck for traction.

Not that much lighter actually. Like I said he looks foolish running them on the street in an 11 second car.

F-Body_4_Life
05-13-2012, 06:27 PM
Unless somone would let me barrow some tires prob not... I would win anyways... 6-speed vs stalled auto = no competition :nod: I have nt05r's btw

Yea, unless you really suck at driving. (not directed towards you)

sweet99ss
05-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Prob do^. My best 60 is 1.76 on my old 275 555r's lol. Who knows when I will get to go back and see what it will do :(

sweet99ss
05-25-2012, 07:35 PM
Got the bottle filled today... One of my friends has the guys number and told the cobra guy I want a rematch and he said "that race wasn't even close he is a waist of my time"... And he also went on to say that he knew I was spraying when I raced him so I will just loose again. Than I said "lets put $100 on it and see if it's a waist of your time". Sooo either tommarow or sunday I will have the rematch and it will be for $100 and on camera

F-Body_4_Life
05-25-2012, 08:03 PM
Dig or roll?

Heater
05-25-2012, 08:19 PM
As long as you have no hiccups, should be easy money :gtfo:

Cwarta
05-25-2012, 08:24 PM
Lol, if you have any hiccups that $100 will be the least of your worry`s....

ZNix
05-25-2012, 08:28 PM
Can't wait to see the outcome. I think that you should be able to pull him with the bottle.

projectX
05-25-2012, 09:30 PM
That was a really clean race - nice job man.

sweet99ss
05-25-2012, 11:33 PM
Dig or roll?

Most likely a 20 roll.

sweet99ss
05-25-2012, 11:35 PM
As long as you have no hiccups, should be easy money :gtfo:

I took it out tonight and tested it. I was having trouble figuring out my damn window switch and I probably did 10 damn pulls on it :bang:. I got it all figured out and it pulls hard, but I will have to weigh it tommarow to see how much I have left

sweet99ss
05-25-2012, 11:36 PM
Can't wait to see the outcome. I think that you should be able to pull him with the bottle.

After feeling it tonight i would say I'm going to pull at the very least 3-4 cars lol.

BayArea ws6
05-26-2012, 04:36 AM
Nice , go get that money and hurt his ego a little too !

sweet99ss
05-26-2012, 10:40 AM
Yea I am just gonna make sure and have somebody hold the money this time. Cuz last time I race an 10 ss for $150 he didn't wanna pay afterwords when I pulled 3 cars on him. And this was before the n20 lol

Packy
05-26-2012, 11:24 AM
Sounds good and I bet the video will be entertaining! Have fun.

sweet99ss
05-26-2012, 03:16 PM
Sounds good and I bet the video will be entertaining! Have fun.

I will have fun for sure! I would like to put the first and second video into one to show the differences between n/a and the 100 shot

ScreaminRedZ
05-27-2012, 10:00 AM
Good death, that's not bad at all considering the matchup!

Sucks about the nitrous line giving you issues. One night when I still had my Z28 on the road, I was hanging out at a local cruise night. I was in the bathroom and some guy come in and says, hey your car just made a noise... I'm like :confused: I go out to check on it and the line from the bottle to the solenoid had rubbed through and blew. I guess it scared the crap out of some of the people near it, lol.

Yea I am just gonna make sure and have somebody hold the money this time. Cuz last time I race an 10 ss for $150 he didn't wanna pay afterwords when I pulled 3 cars on him. And this was before the n20 lol

Definitely have someone hold the money and have him in one of the cars or at the finish line to clearly see who won. We just had an issue with this where the loser tried crying foul after the race. Luckily we had people holding the money and watching the race and we got paid.

sweet99ss
05-27-2012, 11:57 AM
The only thing that sucks right now is that I have a 15lb bottle that weighs 20lbs empty. And I just weighed it at 27lbs.. I am hearing that around 6-7 lbs a 15lb bottle stops working... Can anybody confirm this? I am saposed to go race him today, but im iffy on it now if I don't have enuf n20

ScreaminRedZ
05-27-2012, 12:28 PM
I've never used a 15 lbs bottle, but that sounds about right. With a 10lbs bottle I started noticing a serious drop in performance at around 18 lbs (4lbs left in the bottle).

sweet99ss
05-27-2012, 01:48 PM
Well all of the sudden he won't answer my friends text's and his fb says he is taking a "mini road trip"

sweet99ss
05-28-2012, 01:01 AM
Well we ran again tonight...

sweet99ss
05-28-2012, 01:25 AM
Anyways he missed shifts the first couple races and than my n20 wouldn't f'ing work right so we didn't to do one last race at the end for $20 and I won it because he missed a shift again. here is the thread for my n20 not working if anybody wants to help me out so I can get another damn rematch and see what the n20 will do.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/1550985-nitrous-sputtering-not-working-correctly-plz-help.html#post16358072

DoggyB22
05-28-2012, 03:36 AM
No vids of the second race?? Good run on the first one.. Held your own. Anyway get that spray issue worked out & tell him to learn how to shift!

evolve
05-28-2012, 07:41 AM
In for race # 3 with both N2O and vids! :)

sweet99ss
06-23-2012, 12:19 PM
Putting in an ls6 cam with 25% u/d pulley and bumping my shift points to 6400 rpm. Looking at the vid do you think i shoukd be able to keep up with him with the ls6 cam and u/d pulley?

ds98formula
06-23-2012, 06:41 PM
In for round 3 hope you get the problem fixed so you can spray

07 z71 silverado
06-24-2012, 02:09 AM
Putting in an ls6 cam with 25% u/d pulley and bumping my shift points to 6400 rpm. Looking at the vid do you think i shoukd be able to keep up with him with the ls6 cam and u/d pulley?

dont waste your money or time on ls6 cam.

sweet99ss
06-24-2012, 02:31 AM
dont waste your money or time on ls6 cam.

It's already going in lol. It's saposed to be good for 25-30 hp, get good gas mileage and saposed to be good for n20. And I'm getting the whole kit for $230. And the only reason I'm putting it in is because I got it so cheap. A new kit would cost me $750 easy....

m_liel
06-24-2012, 02:48 AM
It's already going in lol. It's saposed to be good for 25-30 hp, get good gas mileage and saposed to be good for n20. And I'm getting the whole kit for $230. And the only reason I'm putting it in is because I got it so cheap. A new kit would cost me $750 easy....

Pretty decent cam for a blower setup, I don't know about N20. I've been down that road, wasnt to satisfied with the gains. But to each their own.

sweet99ss
06-24-2012, 05:17 AM
Pretty decent cam for a blower setup, I don't know about N20. I've been down that road, wasnt to satisfied with the gains. But to each their own.

It's just to get me by awhile. I am wanting to do a d-1sc with forged 347 and lvl 4 FLT tranny in a year or so.