should i be running faster?
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should i be running faster?
maybe i am just expecting to much but it seems like i should be running better times with my mods.. the car is a 98 T/A Auto with the mods in sig
and the best i can seem to run is
2.0 60ft <--no spinning but the car feels like it boggs off the line)
13.5 @ 102
what i am doing wrong?
and the best i can seem to run is
2.0 60ft <--no spinning but the car feels like it boggs off the line)
13.5 @ 102
what i am doing wrong?
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Are in the right gear for the A4? I'm not sure what gear you should be in, I've got no idea about auto's, but I know that they can bog like crazy in one gear, and flat out haul like crazy in another.
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i am getting my TCI 3500 installed this week... will it really make a big difference? i am shooting for 12s and i was really hoping that the converter would get me there..
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you are not heating the DR's enough and yes your times are slow for what you have.BFG's are stickier than Nitto's and peeps aruond hear are hitting 1.9's on nitto's. And how are you launching?I have a 99 TA and with catback,lid,filter, and all the rear suspension goodies except torque arm I ran 13.3 with 2.0 60ft on street tires easily.PM me if you would like to talk further.
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Originally Posted by 98pontam
maybe i am just expecting to much but it seems like i should be running better times with my mods.. the car is a 98 T/A Auto with the mods in sig
and the best i can seem to run is
2.0 60ft <--no spinning but the car feels like it boggs off the line)
13.5 @ 102
what i am doing wrong?
and the best i can seem to run is
2.0 60ft <--no spinning but the car feels like it boggs off the line)
13.5 @ 102
what i am doing wrong?
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You should be going much faster.
My 2000 WS6 went 13.1@105 with a 1.97 sixty foot...
ONLY MOD WAS A CUT OUT!! That time was also on street tires (Khumos)
Please explain HOW you are luanching the car...
My 2000 WS6 went 13.1@105 with a 1.97 sixty foot...
ONLY MOD WAS A CUT OUT!! That time was also on street tires (Khumos)
Please explain HOW you are luanching the car...
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i have been pressing the brake and bringing the revs up to about 1200 rpm and then mashing it on the 3rd yellow.. it seems if it try to get the revs much higher it wont hold..
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Originally Posted by chevyzz8
dumb question here but who knows, did you remember to turn off traction control (ASR) ? that would explain no spinning and a 13.5
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i would def. say make sure your TCS is off....also...im assuming youve had tuning wiht the new gears that you have in there...did you have anything for weight reduction? say-removing the spare and jack in the trunk and any like loose objects in the car? a TC will definitely nock you into 12's for sure with your mods...i dont kno of many...if ANY autos that are slow off the line...and if they have a High-Stall TC i kno people are hittin 1.6 sixties allll day...
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I would definetly say that the BFG's are doing you no good with the stock TC. I ran ET's on my stock TC and I bogged really bad. I actually lost time with them. Once the stall went in, it was a huge improvement. I'd venture to say that you'll be in the 12.5-12.7 once you get your TC installed.
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what i've found for drag radials.
flash the car with the brakes on full after you back up and straighten out. dont get in the water doesnt help.
nail it (verter) in 1st, then when you hit about 6000 lightly bump it into 2, if you slam it will go to 3/d and game over.
then hold the gas 4400-6000rpm till you are see smoke past the drivers window.
let off the brake and burn forward.
This was what got me my 12.1.
Or put e/t slicks on, do the same burnout.
the difference with ET's is that no matter what you do you will hook unless you have like 400-500whp lol. The nitto's will still spin with a competent converter and takes a lot more finesse.
It was 10X easier to launch on a pair of ET's versus nitto's imo. almost a no brainer.
et's are like: burnout, roll up to lights, hold brake (no gas) then when the lights drop, ******' hit the pedal and hold on for a bumpy ride.
flash the car with the brakes on full after you back up and straighten out. dont get in the water doesnt help.
nail it (verter) in 1st, then when you hit about 6000 lightly bump it into 2, if you slam it will go to 3/d and game over.
then hold the gas 4400-6000rpm till you are see smoke past the drivers window.
let off the brake and burn forward.
This was what got me my 12.1.
Or put e/t slicks on, do the same burnout.
the difference with ET's is that no matter what you do you will hook unless you have like 400-500whp lol. The nitto's will still spin with a competent converter and takes a lot more finesse.
It was 10X easier to launch on a pair of ET's versus nitto's imo. almost a no brainer.
et's are like: burnout, roll up to lights, hold brake (no gas) then when the lights drop, ******' hit the pedal and hold on for a bumpy ride.
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Originally Posted by 98pontam
i have been pressing the brake and bringing the revs up to about 1200 rpm and then mashing it on the 3rd yellow.. it seems if it try to get the revs much higher it wont hold..
When i first bought my car i took it to the track,only to run 13.9 at 96. I almost cried! But i did figure out the trouble. i heard spark knock (only 1 time) but the computer pulled timing and it killed my mph. Refilling the tank will reset the pcm for the timing control.
The next weekend i went back to the track and ran 13.2 @ 104 1.99 60ft ,car was totally stock ,down to the paper air filter and stock Goodyears.
Just try getting a fresh tank of gas and get the good stuff.
I got poor quality fuel,i alway run premium,but this was bad gas,and that was the trouble i had.
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no the ECU has a % map (0-100%) it dynamically adjusts between the low octane and high octane map.
I have a huge 30 minute log of me driving home from the strip last night, i get spurios knock now and then cruising (may too much timing at a point) and the % will drop from 100% (high octane map) to 99% then move quickly back up if it encounters no more knock.
The whole gas tank thing doesn't happen on a 00 ls1 i'm afraid to say. I've seen the ecu map scaler work in many situations hauling *** around town, specially when my pacesuckah lt's were banging the kmember and the floorpan. The octane scaler is VERY rapid and unless sustained KR is seen it will return back to high octane maps pretty fast.
i assume as it sees more knock it keeps lowering this scaler.
If you had ls1edit/hptuner you could set your low/high maps to the same to turn off the system but i wouldn't recommend it.
efilive 6.3.3 and 6.4.0 can log this pid quite easily.
(i have an efilive for sale $275 btw) lol.
I have a huge 30 minute log of me driving home from the strip last night, i get spurios knock now and then cruising (may too much timing at a point) and the % will drop from 100% (high octane map) to 99% then move quickly back up if it encounters no more knock.
The whole gas tank thing doesn't happen on a 00 ls1 i'm afraid to say. I've seen the ecu map scaler work in many situations hauling *** around town, specially when my pacesuckah lt's were banging the kmember and the floorpan. The octane scaler is VERY rapid and unless sustained KR is seen it will return back to high octane maps pretty fast.
i assume as it sees more knock it keeps lowering this scaler.
If you had ls1edit/hptuner you could set your low/high maps to the same to turn off the system but i wouldn't recommend it.
efilive 6.3.3 and 6.4.0 can log this pid quite easily.
(i have an efilive for sale $275 btw) lol.
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yes i had the TCS off... i do not have any tuning done.. other then using the HPP3 to correct for the gears.. there are no shops (that i know of) anywhere near here that tune LS1s..
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Not to argue,but the 00 has that feature in a untuned stock pcm and it was causing major trouble with my car. Never got gas at that station again.
I also read an article on the Son of S.A.M car. and it is described in the article all about the computer pulling timing and not giving it back until the fuel level increases considerably(sp).
Not argueing ,just disagreeing.
Dave
I also read an article on the Son of S.A.M car. and it is described in the article all about the computer pulling timing and not giving it back until the fuel level increases considerably(sp).
Not argueing ,just disagreeing.
Dave
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Originally Posted by redsscamaroboy
Not to argue,but the 00 has that feature in a untuned stock pcm and it was causing major trouble with my car. Never got gas at that station again.
I also read an article on the Son of S.A.M car. and it is described in the article all about the computer pulling timing and not giving it back until the fuel level increases considerably(sp).
Not argueing ,just disagreeing.
Dave
I also read an article on the Son of S.A.M car. and it is described in the article all about the computer pulling timing and not giving it back until the fuel level increases considerably(sp).
Not argueing ,just disagreeing.
Dave
I agree with Dave. I put premium gas in mine from day one and I bought some gas from one of the no name gas stations. That same day I drove up to TEA to have my car dynoed and mine did the same thing losing power at certain RPM's. Some of my friends asked where I bought my gas and they said that could well be the problem so since then nothing goes into my car except BP 93 octane. 2 months later went to the track and pulled my best time located in my sig.
I stll pulled 307 RWHP bone stock. Haven't dynoed since the cut-out has been installed.