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Frans96SS
05-14-2012, 01:34 AM
I need some glass work done. Looking to replace a wall which is currently drywall with big glass windows. Basically a big glass wall. Would love to trade work in the shop for the glass work. Let me know


4DRUSH
05-14-2012, 05:03 AM
Pretty sure woman restroom walls have to be solid walls Fran.

Fireball
05-14-2012, 09:37 AM
:funny:


CamaroSS621
05-14-2012, 12:49 PM
Pretty sure guys restroom walls have to be solid walls Fran.

fixed 4 u

Frans96SS
05-17-2012, 12:20 AM
Bump..

WS6TransAm01
05-17-2012, 10:39 AM
Architect's perspective:

Are you looking to do a knock-down frame, storefront or channel/butt-glazing?

You can save a lot of money by setting the glass more than 18" above the floor. If glass is within 18" of the floor it has to be tempered, which means it can't be cut after it is manufactured and will be more expensive. We usually specify 1/2" tempered glass with bottom and bottom channels from CR Laurance or equal, with 1/4" silicone joints between panels.

If you set the glass higher, you can use 1/4" annealed glass and save quite a bit of money on materials, but it may not be the look you are going for.

Knock Down Frame:
http://www.dsdoorandspecialtiesllc.com/images/Frames%20Doors/interior%20welded%20side%20light%20frame.jpg
Usually made by Steelcraft or Equal, can be door and sidelight, or sidelight only. Also remember that even with the KD frame, if the glass is within 18" of the floor, or adjacent to a door it has to be tempered, but because there is a frame, it can be 1/4" [technical 6mm) not 1/2"

This is the cheapest option

Storefront glazing:
http://www.maloofam.com/images/MaloofInteriorStorefrontFoyerCropped.jpg

Made by Kawneer or Vistawall (there are other cheaper brands but these are the best)
Can use 1/4" annealed glass if not next to a door or 18" above floor. Its more expencive than a KD frame and the aluminum mullions can come in clear anodized or a bunch of other colors as well.


Channel / Butt-Glazing:
http://glassdoorss.com/door-manufacturers/images/glass-commercial-doors-1.jpg

Usually most expensive because it requires very precise framing dimensions and well as 1/2" tempered glass being expensive. I think it looks the nicest.

First you have to pick what u want, then you can get a price quote.

Hope that helps

Frans96SS
05-17-2012, 11:12 AM
That is very helpful thank you. 18 inches off the ground is not a problem at all. Your first picture is fine. I figured from 18 up can be one piece but if price doubles or something i can change my mind. Do you do that glass your self?

pancho toco loco
05-17-2012, 08:37 PM
Wish you were closer I'd make the glass on trade work for you. I run a dept for a very well know North East Architectural glass Co. Glass and any and all processes is nothing for me. I'd give 1/2in tempered, polished,cutouts, nothches, shapes whatever you wanted. Getting my car to you and freight on the other hand is a different story.

WS6TransAm01
05-18-2012, 07:13 AM
That is very helpful thank you. 18 inches off the ground is not a problem at all. Your first picture is fine. I figured from 18 up can be one piece but if price doubles or something i can change my mind. Do you do that glass your self?

We only design the wall, type, mullion spacing, fastening and what type of glass it needs to be. The General Contractor will hire a sub who will submit shop drawings which we will either approve of note-up and then they will manufacture and install it.

I just draw a pretty picture and make sure that the client gets what they want and paid for.

If you go with a K.D. system you will need to call a commercial door guy as they will be the ones providing the frames and stops, some are standard sizes, but most can be manufactured to any size, shape and mullion spacing you want. Then a glassier will come in and install the glass. Sometimes the door guy can do both.

You can also specify a taller bottom shoe so that you don't have to build up a knee wall and protect the glass from foot impact but I don't see a 18" bottom rail so you would have to use tempered glass.

This is an image from Steelcraft's catalog, they are a K.D. frame and door manufacturer.
http://www.arcat.com/photos/stlcraft/106937.jpg

Frans96SS
05-30-2012, 01:32 AM
Any one else?