Street Racing & Kill Stories - Stock 2011 5.0 vs Stock 2006 GTO

Posted this from another forum Im on. Every stang owner is saying the GTO isn't stock but it sounds stock to me and the guy who filmed the races knows both owners and said the GTO is stock.

I knew these cars were close...
LS2 GTO: Stock 6-Speed
5.0: Stock 6-Speed 3.31 geared

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH53T83GcXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDPbKi76_Qk

damn....that shit just happened

Lighter car with more power :) Ity happens

Lighter car with more power :) Ity happens

the 5.0 is lighter and has more power and the GTO won the first race so it looks dead even.

whoever had the passenger lost.

good racing for some very quiet cars.

On a site note, i looked at a 2006 SRT8 charger tonight. ME LIKEY! Had 60,000 miles, they wanted $26,000 for it. Still dont think i could bring myself to buy that over an LS2 gto for considerably cheaper.... But i really loved the car! Black BTW

Nice races and shitty music.!. Also learn how to wear hats properly.

Didn't seem like either of them could drive all that well. Still close runs

It's all about the driver. Stock 5.0 is undoubtedly faster than a bone stock LS2 goat. It makes more power and has less weight, so theres really no arguing that fact. My brother just raced a stock 3.31 geared M6 5.0 in his LS2 GTO tonight and they were dead even except I was in the car with my brother and the 5.0 only had a driver. My brothers car has kooks longtubes and a svede intake. The guy in the 5.0 we raced is a damn good driver. I'll try to get a vid up.

Good runs. Swapped driver and they both won. Now take passenger out and run the or add a passenger to each. Why do people buy them with the 3.31 gears though. Getting the 3.73's is only a $195 option.

3.73 > 3.31... They probably got 3.31s... for better gas mileage?
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1310564987331.jpg

The quickest/fastest bone stock 5.0 times have come from the 3.31 geared M6's. The 3.73 is horrible for traction at the track. The 3.31 has the advantage there.

Moving into the auto and we know a lowered gear 5.0 isn't at any advantage vs. a higher geared 5.0. Same issue applies, traction.

When moving into gay street racing from a roll, the lower gear will help however not much. It boils down to where you begin the pull and how long you can stay in the optimal power range for RPM.

CWARTA...$26,000 for a car with 60,000 miles and is 6 years old...sorry not me...would rather put that money into something newer and with less miles...but if you like it, it's your money...shit, those dodge's cost a lot new or used...OP good runs...

Power to weight! Extra passenger in the 5.0 even the playing field a little. And unfortunately Ls2 GTO owners cant say there motor was underrated, cause from what ive heard GM rated it pretty accurate.

Good races though

CWARTA...$26,000 for a car with 60,000 miles and is 6 years old...sorry not me...would rather put that money into something newer and with less miles...but if you like it, it's your money...shit, those dodge's cost a lot new or used...OP good runs...

Totally agree. Mind aswell take that money and go buy a C5 ZO6 or a older CTS-V

And unfortunately Ls2 GTO owners cant say there motor was underrated, cause from what ive heard GM rated it pretty accurate.i'm not over impressed with the ls2. i think it is because of the intake. having the increased bore, compression, and 243 head should make more power than they do.

actually, it's probably just the car they are in. the ls2 vettes don't seem to be such turds. although, i have seen some ls2 swapped 4th gens that really weren't much faster than an ls1. def not worth the difference in price unless that 4" bore is getting used.

i'm not over impressed with the ls2. i think it is because of the intake. having the increased bore, compression, and 243 head should make more power than they do.

actually, it's probably just the car they are in. the ls2 vettes don't seem to be such turds. although, i have seen some ls2 swapped 4th gens that really weren't much faster than an ls1. def not worth the difference in price unless that 4" bore is getting used.

The ls2's are stout. The intakes hold them back some and they used the pissy ass 01 ls6 cam in them. Once bolt-ons / cam starts they come to life in a big way.

i'm not over impressed with the ls2. i think it is because of the intake. having the increased bore, compression, and 243 head should make more power than they do

actually, it's probably just the car they are in. the ls2 vettes don't seem to be such turds. although, i have seen some ls2 swapped 4th gens that really weren't much faster than an ls1. def not worth the difference in price unless that 4" bore is getting used.

The LS2 lived up to what it was supposed to be...a nice step up from the previous gen base C5 Corvette. For comparison, an LS2 C6 is about a half second faster in the 1/4 mile than the LS1 C5, on par with the advertised 50hp increase. Not to mention it had a starting price similar to the previous model. I think GM did a good job with that motor.

The ls2's are stout. The intakes hold them back some and they used the pissy ass 01 ls6 cam in them. Once bolt-ons / cam starts they come to life in a big way.

Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.

Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.

Some people just don't know wtf they are doin......you can tell him that for me.

Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.

I picked up 31rwhp just from a swap to a fast 92...ls2 intakes are garbage.

The LS2 is a good motor, and can run good. The LS2 intake is about the worst intake they could have put on it. There was a dyno on a 6.0 truck done where it shows just how crappy the LS2 intake is: http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193084&highlight=dyno+testing+ls2+intake+ls1

It's a stout motor like mentioned, and wakes up well with mods IMO and still puts out about 40-45 more to the wheels then the ls1.

Some people just don't know wtf they are doin......you can tell him that for me.

LOL...will do I tell him join here.

goat jumped the first run. guess he missed a ear second run. third run was good....kid in the stang even hesitated hafter third honk, and still hammered him. music playing in the goat sucked moose balls.

CWARTA...$26,000 for a car with 60,000 miles and is 6 years old...sorry not me...would rather put that money into something newer and with less miles...but if you like it, it's your money...shit, those dodge's cost a lot new or used...OP good runs...

:cool:

These car's are close. The 5.0 is superior though, just like the 03/04 Cobra was. That Goat does not sound stock to me. Sounds like a muffler delete, but could be wrong.

Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.

How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange. :confused:

How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange. :confused:

Nope not every 5.0..a 5.0 with roush blower was runnig best of 13.8's.

i'm not over impressed with the ls2. i think it is because of the intake. having the increased bore, compression, and 243 head should make more power than they do.

actually, it's probably just the car they are in. the ls2 vettes don't seem to be such turds. although, i have seen some ls2 swapped 4th gens that really weren't much faster than an ls1. def not worth the difference in price unless that 4" bore is getting used.

An LS2 GTO with an intake and headers will run even with an LS2 vette. That motor is held back big time from GM. Once you open it up a bit, it runs hard.

Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.

Yea, 12.7 at probably 122 mph.

The LS2 is a good motor, and can run good. The LS2 intake is about the worst intake they could have put on it. There was a dyno on a 6.0 truck done where it shows just how crappy the LS2 intake is: http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193084&highlight=dyno+testing+ls2+intake+ls1

It's a stout motor like mentioned, and wakes up well with mods IMO and still puts out about 40-45 more to the wheels then the ls1.

I don't know about that. I made 700whp on a ported LS2 intake and the guy I bought my intake off of made 1100whp with it.

How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange. :confused:

probably should take a hint there, eh?:cool:

probably should take a hint there, eh?:cool:

No, tell me, what's the hint?

No, tell me, what's the hint?

that fords do indeed run great, contrary to your belief. :cool:

Good races.

Not sure why people look at the LS2's as a disappointment compared to LS1's. 50 more hp with a few changes seems pretty good to me. I'm assuming all these same people would buy an LS1 GTO over the disappointment that is the LS2 :eyes:

How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange. :confused:

:lol:

An LS2 GTO with an intake and headers will run even with an LS2 vette. That motor is held back big time from GM. Once you open it up a bit, it runs hard.

I can set you guys up with a cold air only LS2 vette...

that fords do indeed run great, contrary to your belief. :cool:

You are delusional.

An LS2 GTO with an intake and headers will run even with an LS2 vette. That motor is held back big time from GM. Once you open it up a bit, it runs hard.



Yea, 12.7 at probably 122 mph.

No it only trapped 116-118 all night. He was on a 275 MT DR as well.

Not sure why people look at the LS2's as a disappointment compared to LS1's. 50 more hp with a few changes seems pretty good to me. I'm assuming all these same people would buy an LS1 GTO over the disappointment that is the LS2 :eyes:i am going strictly by personal experience. i have ran a handful of ls2 goats, and 1 ls2 vette. none of which impressed me. apparently the intakes are complete junk, which i had a hunch about anyway. i would not/will not buy a gto, so that argument is null. however, if i was forced to choose, i would obviously opt for the ls2. 4" bore please and thank you.

Idk about yall but I don't think that GTO sounded stock. Dont ever remember mine sounding like that when I had the stock exhaust.

Then again, it could just be some mufflers that are louder but don't give any extra power.

i am going strictly by personal experience. i have ran a handful of ls2 goats, and 1 ls2 vette. none of which impressed me. apparently the intakes are complete junk, which i had a hunch about anyway. i would not/will not buy a gto, so that argument is null. however, if i was forced to choose, i would obviously opt for the ls2. 4" bore please and thank you.

The fact that you wouldn't buy a GTO does not make the argument null. The point is that the same car with both engines and the LS2 is as much faster than the LS1 as it should be.

How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange. :confused:
I've asked him the same thing :lol:
The fact that you wouldn't buy a GTO does not make the argument null. The point is that the same car with both engines and the LS2 is as much faster than the LS1 as it should be.
Valid point

Not sure why people look at the LS2's as a disappointment compared to LS1's. 50 more hp with a few changes seems pretty good to me. I'm assuming all these same people would buy an LS1 GTO over the disappointment that is the LS2 :eyes:i bolded the portion i was referring to as null. i am in the "not overly impressed" group, but would not choose an lsjuan over an lswho. just clarifying.

i'm pretty sure a local here just bought a 50k mile ls2 goat. maybe i can get him in for some pulls to see how it plays out.

The 331 geared 2011,or 12 m6 will run 12.01 to 11.90's with a good driver. the trap speed is any where from 116 or 117. This is with a tune and cai... 373 spins and that's where people see these slow 13 sec times.. ;) and im talking about reg tires..

^^^^^^^You must be speakin with bolt-ons

^^^^^^^You must be speakin with bolt-ons

Nope he is right..Cold air..tune on stock tires. Has been done several times.

Cool.....then this gto is a 11 sec car......fuckin gm shit runnin good years before the ford shit!!!!

You know it's fuckin amazing....when the 5.0 loses it or don't run as you think it should you use to say "oh well it didn't have 3.73's" now you want me to believe the 5.0's are 11 sec cars with the taller gear on just a tune....get real.

You know it's fuckin amazing....when the 5.0 loses it or don't run as you think it should you use to say "oh well it didn't have 3.73's" now you want me to believe the 5.0's are 11 sec cars with the taller gear on just a tune....get real.

Facts are facts...they have went 11's with just tune and tire. Sorry they don't need to.swap engines and crap to do it. Or cam and heads etc. This 5.0 went 1 and 1...and the gto didn't sound stock..but whatever

Nope he is right..Cold air..tune on stock tires. Has been done several times.

:lol: Maybe out where you're at in LaLa land, but not here...

:lol: Maybe out where you're at in LaLa land, but not here...

Do some seraching and you can fidn them all over the country.

Do some seraching and you can fidn them all over the country.

:lol: No need to. That's B.S. plain and simple. 11's @ 117?Not going to happen with tune & Cai as only mods. Now with tune, Cai, x-pipe & Dr's its doable.

I did not even have to read the thread to know it is Ohio:swing: TO THE RESUCE!~!!! LOL

I have never seen SO many Foreiners on a Cheby borad in my life, THEY OBVIOUSLY, ARE REALLY CHEVY FANS BUT ARE STILL IN THE CLOSET:secret: ~ HAHA

:lol: Maybe out where you're at in LaLa land, but not here...

ford dealer up the street went 12.5's bone stock auto. tune took em into the 11.9's.

ford dealer up the street went 12.5's bone stock auto. tune took em into the 11.9's.

I don't think so. :jest:


They forgot to mention the tire swap they performed before the run.

Facts are facts...they have went 11's with just tune and tire. Sorry they don't need to.swap engines and crap to do it. Or cam and heads etc. This 5.0 went 1 and 1...and the gto didn't sound stock..but whatever

They went 11's with tune , tire and weight reduction would you stop that shit already

ford dealer up the street went 12.5's bone stock auto. tune took em into the 11.9's.

Go run yours and let us know how it does.......you really need to put up or shut the fuck up.

Go run yours and let us know how it does.......you really need to put up or shut the fuck up.dayum. :jest: once again i vote hio with the best post in the thread.

Cool.....then this gto is a 11 sec car......fuckin gm shit runnin good years before the ford shit!!!!

LMAO no shit!!! One 5.0 dips into the the 11's in negative DA with weight reduction and bolt-ons then all of a sudden every Ford nutswinger on tech has an 11 second or faster stock 5.0.

Good thing we have real videos where a stock GTO runs dead nuts with the 5.0 :bomb: Gotta love 11.7s from factory stock GTO's :usa:

My shit runs 9s with just a CAI.

Oh yeah and in a stripped 800lbs car.

My shit runs 9s with just a CAI.

Oh yeah and in a stripped 800lbs car.

wow, were close, my ls1 ran 11.99 on a hypertech and a catback.:)

They went 11's with tune , tire and weight reduction would you stop that shit already

What weight reduction. Tires...When you own a fast car let me know until then take your bitch ass some where else.

My car went 11.8 with tire/tune/cold air, WBT's car did it, and least 6 others i know did it. SO from TX all way to PA they have done it. Sounds like you guys are just butt hurt. Specially you SRT boys rolling around on 22" rims looking all retarded ghetto fabulaous.

I don't think so. :jest:


They forgot to mention the tire swap they performed before the run.

they didn't. it went faster with drag radials.

LMAO no shit!!! One 5.0 dips into the the 11's in negative DA with weight reduction and bolt-ons then all of a sudden every Ford nutswinger on tech has an 11 second or faster stock 5.0.

Good thing we have real videos where a stock GTO runs dead nuts with the 5.0 :bomb: Gotta love 11.7s from factory stock GTO's :usa:

i never said mine runs 11's. in fact, i've stated a few times i've not run mine, and won't be in the near future. not at the dragstrip anyway.

Those 5.0s don't run 11s here at Cecil or Atco with just a tune and CAI. And those two tracks are the fastest in the US sans maybe MIR on a private session.

I saw a 11+ 5.0 beat Tony Schumacher this weekend!! I know that they're fast but this is ridiculous. Nobody can post anything about a 5.0 without a nut swinger coming in and crying bs.

What weight reduction. Tires...When you own a fast car let me know until then take your bitch ass some where else.

My car went 11.8 with tire/tune/cold air, WBT's car did it, and least 6 others i know did it. SO from TX all way to PA they have done it. Sounds like you guys are just butt hurt. Specially you SRT boys rolling around on 22" rims looking all retarded ghetto fabulaous.

You sir are a delusional faggot. Almost all those guys running those times admitted to weight reduction rather it was taking the passenger and rear seats out or more they list it. Your stupid ass trys to beat around it and make it seem like a Tune and tire only 5.0 will run 11's no matter who drives it when in reality full bolt on 5.0's dont run that. Maybe in your bitch boy world they do but not where us normal people live. No one is butt hurt there are plenty of 5th gens and SRT8's that run alot faster then your rental car 5.0

LMAO no shit!!! One 5.0 dips into the the 11's in negative DA with weight reduction and bolt-ons then all of a sudden every Ford nutswinger on tech has an 11 second or faster stock 5.0.

Good thing we have real videos where a stock GTO runs dead nuts with the 5.0 :bomb: Gotta love 11.7s from factory stock GTO's :usa:

You sir deserve an award for that statement :judge:

Those 5.0s don't run 11s here at Cecil or Atco with just a tune and CAI. And those two tracks are the fastest in the US sans maybe MIR on a private session.

Again thank you for proving my point once again. If they don't run that at atco or cecil then they damn sure don't anywhere else....

What weight reduction. Tires...When you own a fast car let me know until then take your bitch ass some where else.

My car went 11.8 with tire/tune/cold air. WBT's car did it, and least 6 others i know did it. SO from TX all way to PA they have done it. Sounds like you guys are just butt hurt. Specially you SRT boys rolling around on 22" rims looking all retarded ghetto fabulaous.

So that does include Dr's. That's what I was implying, DUH!

And no butt-hurtin' here. After all, your brand-new, supercharged Mustang is trapping identical to my N/A car, and running just .2 quicker with a stalled/A6 versus my 6spd. Just sayin'

they didn't. it went faster with drag radials.

Highly unlikely. :eyes:

Those 5.0s don't run 11s here at Cecil or Atco with just a tune and CAI. And those two tracks are the fastest in the US sans maybe MIR on a private session.

Exactly. :nod:

You sir are a delusional faggot. Almost all those guys running those times admitted to weight reduction rather it was taking the passenger and rear seats out or more they list it. Your stupid ass trys to beat around it and make it seem like a Tune and tire only 5.0 will run 11's no matter who drives it when in reality full bolt on 5.0's dont run that. Maybe in your bitch boy world they do but not where us normal people live. No one is butt hurt there are plenty of 5th gens and SRT8's that run alot faster then your rental car 5.0

He actually claimed 11's with intake/tune on *street* radials, which makes him appear even more delusional.

So that does include Dr's. That's what I was implying, DUH!

And no butt-hurtin' here. After all, your brand-new, supercharged Mustang is trapping identical to my N/A car, and running just .2 quicker with a stalled/A6 versus my 6spd. Just sayin'



Highly unlikely. :eyes:



Exactly. :nod:



He actually claimed 11's with intake/tune on *street* radials, which makes him appear even more delusional.
They have done on street tires as well.

So that does include Dr's. That's what I was implying, DUH!

And no butt-hurtin' here. After all, your brand-new, supercharged Mustang is trapping identical to my N/A car, and running just .2 quicker with a stalled/A6 versus my 6spd. Just sayin'



Highly unlikely. :eyes:



Exactly. :nod:



He actually claimed 11's with intake/tune on *street* radials, which makes him appear even more delusional.

He doesn't know what he wants to claim. He is full of so much BS he forgets how stupid he looks every time he posts.

Nope he is right..Cold air..tune on stock tires. Has been done several times.

Facts are facts...they have went 11's with just tune and tire Sorry they don't need to.swap engines and crap to do it. Or cam and heads etc. This 5.0 went 1 and 1...and the gto didn't sound stock..but whatever

Hmm....conflicting reports.

You sir are a delusional faggot. Almost all those guys running those times admitted to weight reduction rather it was taking the passenger and rear seats out or more they list it. Your stupid ass trys to beat around it and make it seem like a Tune and tire only 5.0 will run 11's no matter who drives it when in reality full bolt on 5.0's dont run that. Maybe in your bitch boy world they do but not where us normal people live. No one is butt hurt there are plenty of 5th gens and SRT8's that run alot faster then your rental car 5.0

Actually there isn't no 5th gems or srt8 running what I do with same mods. And there is plenty of 11sec 5.0's with just tune and tire. But what kinda stupidity would I expect from a dumb ass that has 22's on his car runs 13's. Just another dumb black worthless piece of shit.

He doesn't know what he wants to claim. He is full of so much BS he forgets how stupid he looks every time he posts.

LOL You never know what you're going to get with that guy.

Actually there isn't no 5th gems or srt8 running what I do with same mods. And there is plenty of 11sec 5.0's with just tune and tire. But what kinda stupidity would I expect from a dumb ass that has 22's on his car runs 13's. Just another dumb black worthless piece of shit.

I knew it! :D


Guess that applies to me too. ;)

Actually there isn't no 5th gems or srt8 running what I do with same mods. And there is plenty of 11sec 5.0's with just tune and tire. But what kinda stupidity would I expect from a dumb ass that has 22's on his car runs 13's. Just another dumb black worthless piece of shit.

Really? Was that necessary? :gtfo:
Quoted for posterity.

I knew it! :D


Guess that applies to me too. ;)

Nope...just him...he the one always talking a out his 22's.

And it has happen with just tune and stock tires. They are out there.

Actually there isn't no 5th gems or srt8 running what I do with same mods. And there is plenty of 11sec 5.0's with just tune and tire. But what kinda stupidity would I expect from a dumb ass that has 22's on his car runs 13's. Just another dumb black worthless piece of shit.

Yep my car runs 13's it has a 3.5L v6 and Im on 22' dubs son so what?. Still shits all over your life faggot. Your a bitch LOL. And this dumb black worthless piece of shit can buy your car and life 5x what do you think about that? Come to Cali and talk like that and you wouldn't last 5 seconds. Someone would beat the shit out of you and take your car. Good thing you live in TX in a gated community where you can feel safe talking like that...

LOL You never know what you're going to get with that guy.

Brb going to buy a stock 5.0 with a tune and tire and run 11's....

Actually there isn't no 5th gems or srt8 running what I do with same mods. And there is plenty of 11sec 5.0's with just tune and tire. But what kinda stupidity would I expect from a dumb ass that has 22's on his car runs 13's. Just another dumb black worthless piece of shit.

c'mon man...thats just wrong.what does being black have anything to do with this thread? So what he likes 22's on his car..typical stereotyping because of the car and rims he has on it..I can play that game also..being from a military city,the only people that owns a mustang are squids or some type of military..go figure.

My car is a 5.0 killers and i spin up to 80mph.

Wait until I get slicks. Going to be a 5.0 raper.