New LS1 Owners - Newbie Tech - Bad mpg
98TransAmAngryBird
05-19-2012, 01:16 AM
I have a 98 trans am completely stock but a lid... It seems recently I have been getting pretty bad gas mileage.. Just wondering what some causes might be?? The car is also running pretty rich. I can smell strong fumes when I am idling. Any thoughts are welcomed. No misfiring though. And the car is running strong.
What are your bad mpgs? My 99z m6 can get 16-18 city driving and up to 30 on the highway
Drew-Bot
05-19-2012, 03:00 AM
whens the last time you did a tune up? or have you tried fuel system cleaner?
wicked383lt1
05-19-2012, 04:01 AM
I have a 98 trans am completely stock but a lid... It seems recently I have been getting pretty bad gas mileage.. Just wondering what some causes might be?? The car is also running pretty rich. I can smell strong fumes when I am idling. Any thoughts are welcomed. No misfiring though. And the car is running strong.
This can be bad o2,dirty fuel filter,plugs,dirty maf,bad gas,or a heavier foot. What you can do is buy some of this stuff and follow these instructions...http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-maintenance-repairs/534376-how-seafoam-your-car.html
98TransAmAngryBird
05-19-2012, 12:41 PM
Ya I am starting to believe it is a combination of O2 sensors and plugs/wires. I just seafoamed the car about a month ago and changed the fuel filter. I always use 91 octane. Best I can get in Cali.
my MPG highway right now is around 20.. I know my car gets better than that.
city MPG is around 16.
Ill do everything listed above and hopefully she is back to normal
BigBirdLS1
05-19-2012, 01:42 PM
OP there is definitely something wrong with your car. Do all the simple stuff first plugs,wires,clean maf, and your 02 sensors. Also you might have a vacuum leak somewhere. My DD truck was having a mpg issue and I did all the above mentioned things. It didn't help then I looked and found a vacuum line that was cracked. I fixed the vacuum leak and my mpg went from 21 to 26. Also to let you know my car in sig. got 19mpg 100% city driving last week.
1ltcap
05-19-2012, 01:48 PM
if you're running rich, your o2's may be stuck on the lean side. could be a dirty mass airflow meter, or a bad air charge temp sensor....which i think is part of the maf? poss. bad coolant temp sensor, if there's a map sensor in there, it could be bad too.........plugged air filter?
99Bluz28
05-19-2012, 02:17 PM
If the plugs haven't been changed in a long time, change them. I'd also pick up some MAFS cleaner and clean it, and have it checked for any codes.
98TransAmAngryBird
05-19-2012, 02:43 PM
OP there is definitely something wrong with your car. Do all the simple stuff first plugs,wires,clean maf, and your 02 sensors. Also you might have a vacuum leak somewhere. My DD truck was having a mpg issue and I did all the above mentioned things. It didn't help then I looked and found a vacuum line that was cracked. I fixed the vacuum leak and my mpg went from 21 to 26. Also to let you know my car in sig. got 19mpg 100% city driving last week.
WHere was the vacuum leak??
98TransAmAngryBird
05-19-2012, 02:44 PM
Thanks guys I am going to check all this stuff out!
98TransAmAngryBird
05-19-2012, 02:47 PM
Just to add guys... I have been noticing lately that when I run my air conditioner I get a fume like smell coming through the vents. Kinda gives me a headache. Any ideas what could be causing this?
BigBirdLS1
05-19-2012, 02:56 PM
WHere was the vacuum leak??
The vacuum leak was on my DD truck not the F-body. I was just using it as an illustration that a vacuum leak could be the issue is all.
simplysix
05-19-2012, 03:09 PM
Same as above, plugs if they haven't been done in a while or if you aren't sure of the age/gap. Clean maf anyone because a can of cleaner is $5. Do fuel filter regardless since they are $10-$15. If u know someone with a scanner, have them check how the 02s are switching and replace as needed
Seafoam is awesome and only $15ish iirc. Do the intake as well as adding it to the fuel tank
garygnu
05-19-2012, 07:59 PM
you can hook up a scanner and check the O2 sensor.
98TransAmAngryBird
05-20-2012, 10:28 PM
did plugs and wires MSD/Ngktr55.. damn #8 is a pain in the ass.. Then I took the MAF off and found a piece of foil/trash in there. Whoever had the car before me wrapped the MAF with a foil insulator and then connected it to the lid.. well over time I guess it came lose and went into the MAF, so I removed it and then cleaned the MAF with some autozone cleaner. Must of just happened recently b/c i just checked it like a month ago when I was seafoaming/ cleaning the TB. Hope that was my problem... well see... thanks guys
54inches
09-03-2012, 06:28 PM
How is it doing now?
Are you a4 or m6? My 01 gets mid-high 14s all city. Run 91 and no codes. Smells a little rich but could be cuz I have no cats. I make it to 180 every time "check gages" pops up then it's 12gal from empty to full.
FiredUpZ28
09-04-2012, 12:27 PM
Just to add guys... I have been noticing lately that when I run my air conditioner I get a fume like smell coming through the vents. Kinda gives me a headache. Any ideas what could be causing this?
Probably since the A/C isnt used that often could be building up mold in the evap core. They make a cleaning kit for HVAC systems but I've never used one. Also keep in mind A/C will reduce your MPGs by a little mostly city MPGS, its more efficient to use A/C at highway speeds and have the windows up.
95badboy
09-06-2012, 01:13 PM
I get 17 drivin city and a few miles hwy with long tubes no cats 3.42 gears lid and 18's and that's givin it hell a few times and I have stock tune burning rich
Latch
09-06-2012, 04:49 PM
If the car drives fine and feels fast, but is running rich, it might not be going into closed loop. Your 02 sensors might not be working correctly.
HarlotSS
09-07-2012, 08:14 PM
are you sure there isn't any leaks in your exhaust manifolds? you may not even be able to hear a leak or a cracked manifold. I had it happen on my stock 2000 Z28 years ago. never threw a code or anything just ran rich and bad mpg only reason I found the leak is i had it on a lift changing oil and when we lifted it back up to make sure it wasn't leaking etc the exhaust was blowing in my hair by my oil filter. I know its a long shot but might wanna take a look.