Street Racing & Kill Stories - Challenger SRT8 6.4L vs. wife's Pontiac G8

Finally got a chance to see how the wife's grocery getter would do against the new 392 Hemi powerplant. Been curious how the matchup would go down. Wish the runs woulda been a bit cleaner, but apparently the 4th gear synchronizers on a brand new car have already gone weak...
Warranty the trans and we'll line em up again! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzjbsioZjU

Nice...sans ads

oh boy...in before the mopar nuthuggers...let the show begin...

those 392's are a major improvement over the sluggish 6.1's

NIce runs on the G8

oh boy...in before the mopar nuthuggers...let the show begin...

Haha...you know it's comin my friend. Just hang around for a minute ;)

392's are no joke.

392 needs driver mod bad!!!!

Did them and Ford share manaul trans or something.

Did them and Ford share manaul trans or something.

ummm... wut?

man you beat me with the edit.

those 392's are a major improvement over the sluggish 6.1's

You're not kidding. I ran a stock 6.1 SRT-8 Challenger and it was devistating.

Good runs. Challenger needs to shift higher in the RPMs. I don't believe the hype of the new 392 6.4l. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad but it doesn't make the power that the Gen III 6.1l based 392 did. But people wanted the MDS for fuel efficiency over the power of running all 8 cylinders all the time. Who buys a V8 performance car then whines about fuel efficiency. Dumb asses. RekjavicXXX do you have any dyno numbers/track times for your car. Are you tuned with those mods. I didn't catch it if it said.

Nice runs. What mods did the challenger have? Weight and HP/torque numbers from your car?

Impressive that a light bolt-on G8 fared that well. I was expecting the Challenger to put up a much better fight

Good runs. Challenger needs to shift higher in the RPMs. I don't believe the hype of the new 392 6.4l. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad but it doesn't make the power that the Gen III 6.1l based 392 did. But people wanted the MDS for fuel efficiency over the power of running all 8 cylinder all the time. Who buys a V8 performance car then whines about fuel effiency. Dumb asses. RekjavicXXX do you have an dyno numbers/track times for your car. Are you tuned with those mods. I didn't catch it if it said.

Yeah bro....sorry, it was in the Youtube video description. Didn't include all of it within the actual video. Here ya go:

2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 - 6.4L Hemi, exhaust, tires/wheels.

2009 Pontiac G8 GT - American Racing long tube headers, Magnaflow exhaust, Rotofab CAI, Powerbond underdrive pulley, DBA drilled and slotted rotors and Hawk performance pads, throttle body port & polish and East Texas Muscle Cars custom dyno tune - 371RWHP and 387RWTQ.

Good runs. Challenger needs to shift higher in the RPMs. I don't believe the hype of the new 392 6.4l. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad but it doesn't make the power that the Gen III 6.1l based 392 did. But people wanted the MDS for fuel efficiency over the power of running all 8 cylinder all the time. Who buys a V8 performance car then whines about fuel effiency. Dumb asses. RekjavicXXX do you have an dyno numbers/track times for your car. Are you tuned with those mods. I didn't catch it if it said.

Here's the build video on the G8, just in case anyone is a Pontiac fan. Figured half of everybody had seen it by now, but I'll share again for what it's worth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMfDskMCP7E

Good runs, those 392's move out. With a correctly functioning trans and a good driver that G8 would have got walked.

I made a couple sandwiches between each of those shifts

Good races!

Who buys a V8 performance car then whines about fuel effiency. Dumb asses.

I agree 100%. Every complaint I have with my G8 stems from GM trying to improve fuel efficiency. DOD = small cam = 40 less hp that an LS2 and the factory 2.92's are terrible.

On a side note, a lot of people are quick to shout "driver mod" in races when it has been made clear that there was a problem with the transmission. These people must never have driven a car when the transmission was on it's way out or one that had clutch issues.

Why87.....will u be sharing any of those sammiches?

I want a sammich too....someone make me a sammich in between those shifts......:P



Good comparison. With proper shifting/trans fixed the 392 would have it covered.

Impressive that a light bolt-on G8 fared that well. I was expecting the Challenger to put up a much better fight

it didnt put up a good fight because it was driven like shit. A 392 should kill a G8 with those mods. My 6.1 does

You're not kidding. I ran a stock 6.1 SRT-8 Challenger and it was devistating.


I still haven't got a chance to run a 392. Every time one comes around its a rookie who just got it so I don't even bother.

Did them and Ford share manaul trans or something.
Its got the same trans that the camaro SS got the TR6060.

those 392's are a major improvement over the sluggish 6.1's

It might be an improvement but I wouldnt consider the 6.1 Hemi sluggish at all. You must be thinking of the 2.7.

Nice runs, I like the G8's.
Never been a fan of the HEMI's. Then I took my truck to a performance shop to look at something and he was tuning like a 2008 300 SRT8. I saw it had a custom sheet metal manifold and just had to ask about it. It dyno'd to the wheels around 1077rwhp and ran low 10's with full interior. It had twin turbo's of course. I became a fan after that. Had over $100,000 invested though, I didn't care for that.

Why87.....will u be sharing any of those sammiches?

I want a sammich too....someone make me a sammich in between those shifts......:P



Good comparison. With proper shifting/trans fixed the 392 would have it covered.

Sure, what would you like? Ruben, BLT, PB&j? :lol:

Its got the same trans that the camaro SS got the TR6060.



It might be an improvement but I wouldnt consider the 6.1 Hemi sluggish at all. You must be thinking of the 2.7.

Agreed, the old 6.1s were and still are stout motors. Hell, they make more power than a comparable ls2 stock with damn near same displacement. Just the fact they were shoved in between the fenders of a land yacht kept them from doing as well as they should.

Nice! Fix that trans and re-race!

Yikes! Stay away from the GXP G8. It will eat your lunch by the looks of it.

OP, tell your wife to trade in that junk 6M Challenger for an automatic version. They're actually faster than the manual by a good margin. :)

Yikes! Stay away from the GXP G8. It will eat your lunch by the looks of it.

No.

Intake/Tune GXP vs Stock Auto 392
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_u-F-c7j_U

OP, tell your wife to trade in that junk 6M Challenger for an automatic version. They're actually faster than the manual by a good margin. :)

Exactly the 3rd pedal wasn't made for everyone..

No.

Intake/Tune GXP vs Stock Auto 392
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_u-F-c7j_U

Exactly!! One youtube race determines outcome of all others.

Exactly!! One youtube race determines outcome of all others.

No but a G8 GXP isnt capable of low 12's stock like a 392. Clear winner. A Stock G8 GXP and a 6.1 SRT8 are a drivers race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWDaNgs-Ab4

No but a G8 GXP isnt capable of low 12's stock like a 392. Clear winner. A Stock G8 GXP and a 6.1 SRT8 are a drivers race.

But if a decent driven GXP ran into a 392 with a less than desireable driver like the one in the vid, wouldn't it be possible for the 392 to get beat? Especially intake/tune? Yes.

But if a decent driven GXP ran into a 392 with a less than desireable driver like the one in the vid, wouldn't it be possible for the 392 to get beat? Especially intake/tune? Yes.

Yes because anything can happen on the streets. But, are you comparing the capabiliteis of the cars or the drivers?

But if a decent driven GXP ran into a 392 with a less than desireable driver like the one in the vid, wouldn't it be possible for the 392 to get beat? Especially intake/tune? Yes.

Of course. Most 6m 392 guys will lose to slower cars everytime

Yes because anything can happen on the streets. But, are you comparing the capabiliteis of the cars or the drivers?

I'm comparing the two with the combination of car/driver. Slower car/better driver=win/dead even. Faster car/lesser driver=dead even loss. G8/better driver vs. 392/shit driver....what do you think would happen? The car isn't fast enough to make up for the poor driving.

Of course. Most 6m 392 guys will lose to slower cars everytime

Most? So which is the slower car at that point? :lol:

Any car with a bad driver can get beat by a slower car, I can't believe this is even arguable. A 392 Chally went 12.0 with just a tire. The G8 GXP has slightly less HP then the LS3 Camaro. The 392 will kill the LS3 Camaro, and will kill the G8 GXP the same. IMO, the GXP is in line with the GTO stock for stock, a handful more rwhp, but 300 lbs heavier. No comparison to the 392 vs any NA OEM ls3 on the market right now with equal driver's


Edit: Forgot the Corvette....that's a different story

All things being equal the 392 is the faster car period. You could put me in a Geo Metro and my mom in a C6Z and id bust her ass everytime. Why compare drivers? technically every race is a "drivers race" no matter what two cars are racing.

I will say this tho. Any way you slice it that G8 moved out well!! Good kill!

Its got the same trans that the camaro SS got the TR6060.



It might be an improvement but I wouldnt consider the 6.1 Hemi sluggish at all. You must be thinking of the 2.7.

I was being sarcastic since they having issues with tranny. And the manual 5.0 has had issues all over.

Impressive that a light bolt-on G8 fared that well. I was expecting the Challenger to put up a much better fight

I'm sorry I know this is an older post but I just had to laugh at this one. Light bolt on!? LOL Full exhaust, cai, AND a pulley. Im sure the car is tuned, Carry on just thought that was funny. This race seems spot on for the mods done to the g8. Challenger was pulling in between those nailbiting shifts. :jest:

But if a decent driven GXP ran into a 392 with a less than desireable driver like the one in the vid, wouldn't it be possible for the 392 to get beat? Especially intake/tune? Yes.

:jest::jest:..........................:jest:

Impressive that a light bolt-on G8 fared that well. I was expecting the Challenger to put up a much better fight

G8 mods were a non sequitur....It was that Goat under the hood that slapped down the burn on that race....haha ;)

Most? So which is the slower car at that point? :lol:

It's not the car that's slower......It's the idiot behind the wheel. Still doesn't chage the potential of the car.

Holy Smokes...didn't think throwing a GXP comment would stir so much. It's just always sad when a two door car has a hard time killing a 4 door sedan, hence the reason why I own a CTS-V. There is something to humiliating the other driver with this fact. It's a win win for me. If I lose I can blame the sedan part, but when I win...It's just that much sweeter. Plus having the rear seat passengers waving at the other driver just cracks me up. lol

It's just always sad when a two door car has a hard time killing a 4 door sedan. Plus having the rear seat passengers waving at the other driver just cracks me up. lol

Absolutely!

Funny thing is that 2 door weighs as much if not a tad more than the 4 door.

My CTS-V weighs 4,250 pounds. What are you comparing to that? The Average coupe is 3400 pounds. The only over weighted coupe is the Challenger at 4k, and we all know those are ridiculously over weight for a two door.

What are you comparing to that?

The Charger/300 SRT8 I'm sure. Challenger has a claimed curb weight 0f 4160 (auto) and 4170 for manual.

Ah, yes. I think that is why they are killing the Challanger and coming out with the smaller Cuda.

I'm comparing the two with the combination of car/driver. Slower car/better driver=win/dead even. Faster car/lesser driver=dead even loss. G8/better driver vs. 392/shit driver....what do you think would happen? The car isn't fast enough to make up for the poor driving.

:gtfo:


OP i really hope you aren't proud of that "kill".

The Challenger clearly had an incompetent driver. My grandmother can shift faster than that - no BS. Besides, the Chally clearly began to pull in 3rd until 4th gear took a dump. Just a few 392 Haters in here acting like they don't know what's up thats all.

Ok, lets get back to the basics..How does the Challenger SRT8 do compared to the Camaro SS? 2 door to 2 door? lol

Ok, lets get back to the basics..How does the Challenger SRT8 do compared to the Camaro SS? 2 door to 2 door? lol

YOU TUBE is your friend.

YOU TUBE is your friend.

I already know the answer...I was just being a smart ass. The cheaper car is faster.

I already know the answer...I was just being a smart ass. The cheaper car is faster.

Um, the SRT-8 392 is not cheaper than the Camaro.

It's not the car that's slower......It's the idiot behind the wheel. Still doesn't chage the potential of the car.

Agreed. But the autos are obviously the ones running the better times, and it seems like the m6 cars are having a little more trouble with the cars that should be slower (on paper). Due to all the people buying them not able to drive? Who knows.

Holy Smokes...didn't think throwing a GXP comment would stir so much. It's just always sad when a two door car has a hard time killing a 4 door sedan, hence the reason why I own a CTS-V. There is something to humiliating the other driver with this fact. It's a win win for me. If I lose I can blame the sedan part, but when I win...It's just that much sweeter. Plus having the rear seat passengers waving at the other driver just cracks me up. lol

Better yet baby seats and groceries :lol:


:gtfo:


OP i really hope you aren't proud of that "kill".

I'm talking about a slightly modded G8 GXP. Not a GT. If you can show me multiple examples of proof otherwise I'd be very interested in seeing it.

Um, the SRT-8 392 is not cheaper than the Camaro.

Hell a fully loaded 2ss wouldn't be too far off a base 392.

Hell a fully loaded 2ss wouldn't be too far off a base 392.

Sure it wouldn't. lol And "too far off" ain't good enough.

Take those blinders off buddy. :cool:

Sure it wouldn't. lol And "too far off" ain't good enough.

Take those blinders off buddy. :cool:

Actually I just priced a fully optioned 2ss online...50k lol.

Agreed. But the autos are obviously the ones running the better times, and it seems like the m6 cars are having a little more trouble with the cars that should be slower (on paper). Due to all the people buying them not able to drive? Who knows.



Better yet baby seats and groceries :lol:




I'm talking about a slightly modded G8 GXP. Not a GT. If you can show me multiple examples of proof otherwise I'd be very interested in seeing it.



Hell a fully loaded 2ss wouldn't be too far off a base 392.

Yea right LOL a 10 SS is a drivers race with a stock 6.1 Challenger. Been proven many times. Anytime I race my friends 10'ss we are a dead even race all the way up to 130 where i start to edge him. Me intake, catback, tune. Him LS3, intake, catback, tune. A 392 will run away from a 10 SS both drivers being equal. More Hp, faster times, higher trap

Yea right LOL a 10 SS is a drivers race with a stock 6.1 Challenger. Been proven many times. Anytime I race my friends 10'ss we are a dead even race all the way up to 130 where i start to edge him. Me intake, catback, tune. Him LS3, intake, catback, tune. A 392 will run away from a 10 SS both drivers being equal. More Hp, faster times, higher trap

Yeah.. but you have the all powerfull, Mach 1 killin', 3.5l V6 swap :burn:

I already know the answer...I was just being a smart ass. The cheaper car is faster.

Um, the SRT-8 392 is not cheaper than the Camaro.


Hell a fully loaded 2ss wouldn't be too far off a base 392.

Sure it wouldn't. lol And "too far off" ain't good enough.

Take those blinders off buddy. :cool:

Actually I just priced a fully optioned 2ss online...50k lol.

Yea right LOL a 10 SS is a drivers race with a stock 6.1 Challenger. Been proven many times. Anytime I race my friends 10'ss we are a dead even race all the way up to 130 where i start to edge him. Me intake, catback, tune. Him LS3, intake, catback, tune. A 392 will run away from a 10 SS both drivers being equal. More Hp, faster times, higher trap

:cool: Moar reading required

Yeah.. but you have the all powerfull, Mach 1 killin', 3.5l V6 swap :burn:

for now I just race Mach 1's and V6 Camaros. One day.........One day LOL :jest:

To date has anyone with a manual 392 even hit a 12.5? Last I knew the record pass was a 12.7.

I still haven't got a chance to run a 392. Every time one comes around its a rookie who just got it so I don't even bother.

Aren't the fastest ones automatics like your car? :confused: I'm pretty sure they were designed so a 67 year old man can drive it just as good as anyone else. Not to mention how do you drive up on someone and tell if they are a rookie or not? :jest: Fucking moron

Face it...you haven't ran one before because you are afraid of getting your shit pushed in by a stock 392 because in reality your car with mods runs mid 8's to low 8's in the 1/8th depending on which ****** wheels you happen to be running that day.

I'm not that impressed with 392s. Not bad, just expected more.

I'm not that impressed with 392s. Not bad, just expected more.

I think that's the impression I would get also.

Actually I just priced a fully optioned 2ss online...50k lol.

Sorry, I thought you were speaking in terms of performance. Maybe I should take my blinders off. lol

I'm not that impressed with 392s. Not bad, just expected more.

I am very impressed with the 392 5A cars. They're running mid-low 12's out here in good weather, right where they're supposed to be going by their power-to-weight. For comparisons sake, majority of the 6.1 cars were running bottom 13s here when new. And the 6.4's just downright haul ass from a roll.

I've noticed the only people "not impressed" with the new 392 are butt-hurt Ford guys and the older 6.1L owners. Go figure. :jest:

I am very impressed with the 392 5A cars. They're running mid-low 12's out here in good weather, right where they're supposed to be going by their power-to-weight. For comparisons sake, majority of the 6.1 cars were running bottom 13s here when new.

That maybe true. However, if you read earlier in this thread where I compared the 6.1l based 392 to the current 5.7l based 392 in the production cars you would know that the Gen III 6.4l (6.1 based) produces more power than the current 5.7l based engine with the MDS. My engine was swapped a while ago and I am currently making more power than the current 392s.

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· Viton Competition Valve Stem Seals
· 279°/285° (duration @ .006") Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
· 0.584" Intake and 0.552" Exhaust Lift
· Forged Pistons (4.055" Bore)
· 10.5:1 Compression Ratio
· Aluminum Single Plane High Rise Intake Manifold
· Holley 870 cfm Four-barrel Carburetor (1)
· 4140 Forged Steel Crankshaft - 3.795" Stroke
· 4130 Forged Steel I-Beam Connecting Rods - 6.200" Length
· SFI-Approved Competition Crankshaft Damper
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· 80 mm manual throttle body (2)
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That maybe true. However if you read earlier in this thread where I compared the 6.1l based 392 to the current 5.7l based 392 in the production cars you would know that the Gen III 6.4l (6.1 based) produces more power than the current 5.7l based engine with the MDS. My engine was swapped a while ago and I am currently making more power than the current 392s.

Seeing as the 5.7L-based motor is a "production" engine I am actually not surprised. Still, to power a 4200lb car into the low 12's ain't too shabby. Leagues ahead of the old 6.1L which only a short time ago was considered a rather impressive performer.

Don't know shit about the srt8s but any reason why i dont see many srt8 300s being raced? I think those things look mean.

The 300 6.4L is my favorite of all three.

Attached images of the two engines.

To date has anyone with a manual 392 even hit a 12.5? Last I knew the record pass was a 12.7.

I'd also like to know this

I'd also like to know this

IDK but the only one here that I know goes to the track can't get out of the 13s. When we met he said "well I should be able to get a better time than you did. Yours was just a 6.1." I just LOL'd

To date has anyone with a manual 392 even hit a 12.5? Last I knew the record pass was a 12.7.

12.3 on radials. Not stock

Aren't the fastest ones automatics like your car? :confused: I'm pretty sure they were designed so a 67 year old man can drive it just as good as anyone else. Not to mention how do you drive up on someone and tell if they are a rookie or not? :jest: Fucking moron

Face it...you haven't ran one before because you are afraid of getting your shit pushed in by a stock 392 because in reality your car with mods runs mid 8's to low 8's in the 1/8th depending on which ****** wheels you happen to be running that day.

Did you not read what I said you dumb faggot fuck. I said I dont bother racing new 392 owners who look like rookies because I want a clean race. Obviously I know they are rookies by how they are driving the car. You dumb bitch this thread isnt about my car that is still faster then your shitty mach 1 on 22's. Want me to go smoke another one on video for you. Fuck out of here. You trap 108 and you think you can beat me LOL. Let me know when you get a real car bitch and stop driving your girlfriends.

edit how come your bitch ass hasnt posted in our thread dedicated to you yet?
http://ls1tech.com/forums/street-racing-kill-stories/1550123-5th-gen-vs-mach1-7.html

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1322/mach1excuses.jpg

I am very impressed with the 392 5A cars. They're running mid-low 12's out here in good weather, right where they're supposed to be going by their power-to-weight. For comparisons sake, majority of the 6.1 cars were running bottom 13s here when new. And the 6.4's just downright haul ass from a roll.

I've noticed the only people "not impressed" with the new 392 are butt-hurt Ford guys and the older 6.1L owners. Go figure. :jest:

the 6.4 just went 12.0@115 stock with DR's. I have driven them plenty of times they are impressive and im a 6.1 owner. Down low they will kill 6.1, up top they feel about the same.

The 300 6.4L is my favorite of all three.

Yeah man they look sick, how much do they weigh vs the chargers?

Yeah man they look sick, how much do they weigh vs the chargers?

:hail:

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/tabiusbarrett/photo3.jpg

Yeah man they look sick, how much do they weigh vs the chargers?

About the same. Both run 12.3-12.5@112-114

Did you not read what I said you dumb faggot fuck. I said I dont bother racing new 392 owners who look like rookies because I want a clean race. Obviously I know they are rookies by how they are driving the car. You dumb bitch this thread isnt about my car that is still faster then your shitty mach 1 on 22's. Want me to go smoke another one on video for you. Fuck out of here. You trap 108 and you think you can beat me LOL. Let me know when you get a real car bitch and stop driving your girlfriends.

edit how come your bitch ass hasnt posted in our thread dedicated to you yet?
http://ls1tech.com/forums/street-racing-kill-stories/1550123-5th-gen-vs-mach1-7.html


This isn't about you and me. I've proven time and time again my car is faster than yours. If you can't outrun a car that traps slower than you then you need to learn how to drive. And I'm white...I don't run 22" wheels muh nigga. :rolleyes: :lol: Go make you another video, hell post up some more youtube videos instead of posting up your timeslips. If you want me to post up what my cars run instead of my wife's then you let me know, I've said I can play that game too. Timeslips or dyno sheets...your call, but make it another thread.

And I honestly never saw that thread. I look over most of that guy's posts anyways.

And as far as the picture...I don't make excuses for how my car runs...I make you make excuses on how your's runs. Bitch

I've noticed the only people "not impressed" with the new 392 are butt-hurt Ford guys and the older 6.1L owners. Go figure. :jest:

I hope you're not refering to me as being butt-hurt. I'm not sure of any other SRT owners in this thread other than Nite and myself. I haven't had a 6.1 in the car for a while. When I drive the new cars after getting out of mine, I'm not impressed. Better than a 6.1l stock to stock, absolutely. Modded N/A 6.1l to stock 392, depends on the mods.

IDK but the only one here that I know goes to the track can't get out of the 13s. When we met he said "well I should be able to get a better time than you did. Yours was just a 6.1." I just LOL'd

That's about what I figured they ran stock, 13's. Maybe that is why no one agreed to run me at the track when I offered? :confused: I don't get it...my car runs 13.2

This isn't about you and me. I've proven time and time again my car is faster than yours. If you can't outrun a car that traps slower than you then you need to learn how to drive. And I'm white...I don't run 22" wheels muh nigga. :rolleyes: :lol: Go make you another video, hell post up some more youtube videos instead of posting up your timeslips. If you want me to post up what my cars run instead of my wife's then you let me know, I've said I can play that game too. Timeslips or dyno sheets...your call, but make it another thread.

And I honestly never saw that thread. I look over most of that guy's posts anyways.

And as far as the picture...I don't make excuses for how my car runs...I make you make excuses on how your's runs. Bitch

Oh yea ma nigga yea I ride 22's shut your faggot ass up. There are plenty of white people who have 22's on 5th Gens and SRT8's. You talk alot of shit on the internet but if I ever came across you in real life I would knock you the fuck out with no questions asked. Your a dumb bitch with a slow POS mustang. Im not going to keep arguing with your peanut brain ass about your slow ass car that needs slicks and gears to still get out ran by a 4 door charger on 22's. / discussion

About the same. Both run 12.3-12.5@112-114

There soooooo sick man saw one rolling the other day my mind=blown had no idea it was a 300.

the 6.4 just went 12.0@115 stock with DR's. I have driven them plenty of times they are impressive and im a 6.1 owner. Down low they will kill 6.1, up top they feel about the same.

Now that's moving. For those who claim they aren't impressed I dunno what else they're expecting. lol'z

Now that's moving. For those who claim they aren't impressed I dunno what else they're expecting. lol'z

lol seriously, im impressed when a bolt on ls1 f-body traps that. Im more impressed when a 4000lb stock car does it.

Now that's moving. For those who claim they aren't impressed I dunno what else they're expecting. lol'z

A 6.1 with DR's will be lucky to pull a 12.5 - 12.6@ 111-112. The 6.4 is a big improvement over the 6.1

lol seriously, im impressed when a bolt on ls1 f-body traps that. Im more impressed when a 4000lb stock car does it.

Exactly all while riding in style :cool:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/04/000-2012-chrysler-300-srt8-interior-opt.jpg

Now that's moving. For those who claim they aren't impressed I dunno what else they're expecting. lol'z

We as a group probably Nite too, were expecting the SRT guys to drop in the the Gen III which at the time was just a stroked 6.1l that was already in production. Dodge had been going to put the 6.4l in for years before they finally did it. When they did, they opted for the fuel efficiency of the MDS system on the 5.7 instead of the power of the 6.1l based Gen III to reduce the Gas Guzzler tax. People who buy performance cars with V8s and whine about fuel ecconomy are just stupid. That's what I was expecting. Class dismissed.

We as a group probably Nite too, were expecting the SRT guys to drop in the the Gen III which at the time was just a stroked 6.1l that was already in production. Dodge had been going to put the 6.4l in for years before they finally did it. When they did, they opted for the fuel efficiency of the MDS system on the 5.7 instead of the power of the 6.1l based Gen III to reduce the Gas Guzzler tax. People who buy performance cars with V8s and whine about fuel ecconomy are just stupid. That's what I was expecting. Class dismissed.

I honestly wish the 392 would have came out with the 525hp it made in the beginning not 470.

I honestly wish the 392 would have came out with the 525hp it made in the beginning not 470.

That is the 525hp Gen III 392 that I've been talking about. LOL

That maybe true. However, if you read earlier in this thread where I compared the 6.1l based 392 to the current 5.7l based 392 in the production cars you would know that the Gen III 6.4l (6.1 based) produces more power than the current 5.7l based engine with the MDS.

HEMI®, GEN III
CRATE ENGINES
A. 392 Hemi Crate Engine, 540 Horsepower
Mopar's fire-breathing, 525-horsepower (490 ft.-lbs. Torqque) fuelinjected
392 Hemi crate engine is an all-new engine assembly for a new
generation of Mopar enthusiasts.

See above.....

5th gen with 22s ? :barf:

5th gen with 22s ? :barf:

There is one around here that has more ground clearance than my Fj Cruiser.

I just don't like seeing a camaro on 22s a sedan whatever but a camaro not so good lol

Um, the SRT-8 392 is not cheaper than the Camaro.

That's my point. :jest:

5th gen with 22s ? :barf:

Sorry not all of us ride around with weld lites....

22's dont look big on our cars

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/H1%202010camaroSS/H1_01.jpg

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/H1_CamaroSS/IMG_1580.jpg

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/ModulareFTP/Cars/H2_CamaroSS_MB/RLY_Modulare__MG_9909.jpg

That's my point. :jest:

You said "the cheaper car is faster", and in actuality, the more expensive 392 is indeed the fastest of the two. That's my point.

Sorry not all of us ride around with weld lites....

22's dont look big on our cars

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/H1%202010camaroSS/H1_01.jpg

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/H1_CamaroSS/IMG_1580.jpg

Ok see that looks good but I wouldn't ride around on skinnies either on the street but I guess has to be the right style rim for the car regardless the size.

22's dont look big on our cars

The 5th gen around here is on much bigger than 22s.

You ain't nuthin till you roll like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgndNJxZSbk&feature=related

You ain't nuthin till you roll like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgndNJxZSbk&feature=related

And I would drive that everyday + plus twice on sunday before I would be caught dead in a shitty ass mach 1 :jest:

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/ModulareFTP/Cars/H2_CamaroSS_MB/RLY_Modulare__MG_9909.jpg

:drool: Ho-lee shit.

Is it weird I was rooting for a Mopar?

That's about what I figured they ran stock, 13's. Maybe that is why no one agreed to run me at the track when I offered? :confused: I don't get it...my car runs 13.2

You are one dumb mother fucker. Go ahead and keep thinking that they run 13's stock....:swing:

I still haven't got a chance to run a 392. Every time one comes around its a rookie who just got it so I don't even bother.

Lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etf_7hUiaNg

Oh yea ma nigga yea I ride 22's shut your faggot ass up. There are plenty of white people who have 22's on 5th Gens and SRT8's. You talk alot of shit on the internet but if I ever came across you in real life I would knock you the fuck out with no questions asked. Your a dumb bitch with a slow POS mustang. Im not going to keep arguing with your peanut brain ass about your slow ass car that needs slicks and gears to still get out ran by a 4 door charger on 22's. / discussion

Internet warrior here. :rotflmao: I'd be willing to bet if your ****** ass lived in fucking ATLANTA and I called you out to Atlanta Dragway you would still bitch out like you've been bitching out for the past year when anyone asked you to show proof that you ran faster than me at the track. You have never...let me make this clear for you....








never










ever

owned a car that could even outrun my Mach 1 which only has $190 worth of mods done to it.

You are one dumb mother fucker. Go ahead and keep thinking that they run 13's stock....:swing:

Hell looking at your sig you should be thankful your SRT8 runs 13's. :jest: :jest: :jest:

Dude, the 03-04 Mach 1s were high 13 sec almost 14 sec cars to start with. The SRT8s are low 13s. Do we really need to do this again?

Dude, the 03-04 Mach 1s were high 13 sec almost 14 sec cars to start with. The SRT8s are low 13s. Do we really need to do this again?

Mach 1 a high 13? Almost a 14? :confused: nope

Dude, the 03-04 Mach 1s were high 13 sec almost 14 sec cars to start with. The SRT8s are low 13s. Do we really need to do this again?

My 99 Cobra ran 13.5 BONE STOCK with a 17 year old Stopsign32v driving it. As close to stock as I could get it, my Mach 1 with Catback and shifter went 13.2 the first and only run ever in it with those mods and with a 2.0 60'. Had I gotten more runs in I'm sure I could have gotten 13.1 out of it. :lol:

You sir, are wrong. But nice try. :secret:

This isn't about you and me. I've proven time and time again my car is faster than yours. If you can't outrun a car that traps slower than you then you need to learn how to drive. And I'm white...I don't run 22" wheels muh nigga. :rolleyes: :lol: Go make you another video, hell post up some more youtube videos instead of posting up your timeslips. If you want me to post up what my cars run instead of my wife's then you let me know, I've said I can play that game too. Timeslips or dyno sheets...your call, but make it another thread.

And I honestly never saw that thread. I look over most of that guy's posts anyways.

And as far as the picture...I don't make excuses for how my car runs...I make you make excuses on how your's runs. Bitch
:rotflmao: :owned:

Oh yea ma nigga yea I ride 22's shut your faggot ass up. There are plenty of white people who have 22's on 5th Gens and SRT8's. You talk alot of shit on the internet but if I ever came across you in real life I would knock you the fuck out with no questions asked. Your a dumb bitch with a slow POS mustang. Im not going to keep arguing with your peanut brain ass about your slow ass car that needs slicks and gears to still get out ran by a 4 door charger on 22's. / discussion

Why in the hell do you think you're so tough? I have a guess…I see your brand of "hardass" all the time.

I say a bone stock Mach 1 with a good driver can run 13.1-13.2 stock.

Internet warrior here. :rotflmao: I'd be willing to bet if your ****** ass lived in fucking ATLANTA and I called you out to Atlanta Dragway you would still bitch out like you've been bitching out for the past year when anyone asked you to show proof that you ran faster than me at the track. You have never...let me make this clear for you....








never










ever

owned a car that could even outrun my Mach 1 which only has $190 worth of mods done to it.



Hell looking at your sig you should be thankful your SRT8 runs 13's. :jest: :jest: :jest:

:jest: this fuckin guy. LOL so my AMG and SRT8 aren't faster then your piece of shit mach 1....lol ok. How many videos and timeslips do I need to post to shut this faggot up? not only that but members on here who own non mopar cars have said they have seen me run those times or ran against me at the same track. Your not making any of us lose any sleep mustang boy. When is your mullet wearing ass going to realize I dont give two fucks about you? I smoke bolt on mach's on video and at the track thats all that matters. How does it feel to be able to barley afford a fucking piece of shit 8 year old mach 1 LOL bitch ass. And don't star shit out say what you feel tuff guy. People like you get their teeth knocked out where im from. Better keep that trailerpark talk in the boonies over there in Atlanta LOL

I say a bone stock Mach 1 with a good driver can run 13.1-13.2 stock.

Yea when the stars align. Average mach 1's dont run low 13's they run mid to high 13's @103-105

Mach 1 a high 13? Almost a 14? :confused: nope

My 99 Cobra ran 13.5 BONE STOCK with a 17 year old Stopsign32v driving it. As close to stock as I could get it, my Mach 1 with Catback and shifter went 13.2 the first and only run ever in it with those mods and with a 2.0 60'. Had I gotten more runs in I'm sure I could have gotten 13.1 out of it. :lol:

You sir, are wrong. But nice try. :secret:

Really......... I can do this all day.......

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2003/03/30/158354.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0212_2003_ford_mustang_mach_1/viewall.html

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featuredvehicles/173_0306_ford_mustang_mach_1_svt_cobra_comparison/index.html


There are those that have gone faster but should I count the mid 12 sec hero runs of the stock SRTs?

Why in the hell do you think you're so tough? I have a guess…I see your brand of "hardass" all the time.

:zzz: I bet you do and I bet you walk the other way to avoid them LOL

Why dont you look up what are some owners running that own mach 1? http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-6l-talk/188892-stock-mach-1-1-4-times.html

Not saying everyone can run that but car is capable to run mid to low 13s

Why in the hell do you think you're so tough? I have a guess…I see your brand of "hardass" all the time.

you dont have the smallest clue :jest:
guessing only gets you in a world of hurt my friend lol

Why dont you look up what are some owners running that own mach 1? http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-6l-talk/188892-stock-mach-1-1-4-times.html

Dont need to. Been around them long enough to know how they run. Driven enough of them to know how they run. Beat enough of them when my LS1 was bone dry stock to know how they compare.

I'm sorry I know this is an older post but I just had to laugh at this one. Light bolt on!? LOL Full exhaust, cai, AND a pulley. Im sure the car is tuned, Carry on just thought that was funny. This race seems spot on for the mods done to the g8. Challenger was pulling in between those nailbiting shifts. :jest:

:hail:

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/tabiusbarrett/photo3.jpg
Looks like a BMW in that photo. I approve
Oh yea ma nigga yea I ride 22's shut your faggot ass up. There are plenty of white people who have 22's on 5th Gens and SRT8's. You talk alot of shit on the internet but if I ever came across you in real life I would knock you the fuck out with no questions asked. Your a dumb bitch with a slow POS mustang. Im not going to keep arguing with your peanut brain ass about your slow ass car that needs slicks and gears to still get out ran by a 4 door charger on 22's. / discussion
You two just need to have a friendly box match :punch:
Sorry not all of us ride around with weld lites....

22's dont look big on our cars

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/H1%202010camaroSS/H1_01.jpg

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/H1_CamaroSS/IMG_1580.jpg

http://wheelexperts.com/_peter/ModulareFTP/Cars/H2_CamaroSS_MB/RLY_Modulare__MG_9909.jpg
That looks awesome. Cyber gray :drool:

Dont need to. Been around them long enough to know how they run. Driven enough of them to know how they run. Beat enough of them when my LS1 was bone dry stock to know how they compare.

1/4 mile and a sticky track will do a Mach 1 good against a ls1 and that's why people say its a drivers race. Top end the ls1 has the advantage

Looks like a BMW in that photo. I approve

You two just need to have a friendly box match :punch:

That looks awesome. Cyber gray :drool:

Not going to lie that is one of the few new Camaros I would take over my car lol

1/4 mile and a sticky track will do a Mach 1 good against a ls1 and that's why people say its a drivers race. Top end the ls1 has the advantage

Yeah im more impressed by MPH traps though, it depends a stock F-body wont E/T that great due to the 10 bolt. A Mach 1 you don;t have to worry about it just dump the clutch hook and go. But higher MPH traps essentially mean you own the faster car.

1/4 mile and a sticky track will do a Mach 1 good against a ls1 and that's why people say its a drivers race. Top end the ls1 has the advantage

My Auto 2000 LS1 always beat my friends stock mach 1, 97 Cobra and 01 Cobra. I ran 13.0-13.1@106-107 and they always ran mid 13's@103-104. From a roll I would win by about 2 cars.

Yeah im more impressed by MPH traps though, it depends a stock F-body wont E/T that great due to the 10 bolt. A Mach 1 you don;t have to worry about it just dump the clutch hook and go. But higher MPH traps essentially mean you own the faster car.

Exactly. StopMen32v's bolt on Mach 1 traps 108 LOL my auto bolt on WS6 trapped 112.9, what do you think would happen on the street :jest:

My Auto 2000 LS1 always beat my friends stock mach 1, 97 Cobra and 01 Cobra. I ran 13.0-13.1@106-107 and they always ran mid 13's@103-104. From a roll I would win by about 2 cars.

Sounds about right. Some run faster than others though. Mach 1 run faster than the cobra I heard. Better flowing heads and no IRS

you dont have the smallest clue :jest:
guessing only gets you in a world of hurt my friend lol

You're barking up the wrong tree, homie :lol: The difference is I don't post on here like I'm Frank fuckin' Mir. Hey, it's the internet, though, so you can sound all tough in CA 2-3 thousand miles away. BTW I'm not talking the 9mm or brass knuckle shit you're most likely accustomed to.

Why dont you look up what are some owners running that own mach 1? http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-6l-talk/188892-stock-mach-1-1-4-times.html

Not saying everyone can run that but car is capable to run mid to low 13s

Any idiot can post times and not be truthful about mods/weight etc. I could do the same for the SRTs and pull up the stock hero runs but I don't. I have used the average test data for both cars and not my opinion. However, if you have a colection of reproducable, accurate data that says they will do that all the time, I'm listening.

You're barking up the wrong tree, homie :lol: The difference is I don't post on here like I'm Frank fuckin' Mir. Hey, it's the internet, though, so you can sound all tough in CA 2-3 thousand miles away.

Im barking up the wrong tree ha. People like you make me LOL you dont know me from the man on the moon. Talk to me when StopMen32 stops teabagging you since you :swing: so much.

Yeah im more impressed by MPH traps though, it depends a stock F-body wont E/T that great due to the 10 bolt. A Mach 1 you don;t have to worry about it just dump the clutch hook and go. But higher MPH traps essentially mean you own the faster car.

See I agree with that as owning the faster car maybe from a roll race or the potential the car has to run faster down the 1/4 but Mustangs shine at the track so hard to blow them out of the water there.

You're barking up the wrong tree, homie :lol: The difference is I don't post on here like I'm Frank fuckin' Mir. Hey, it's the internet, though, so you can sound all tough in CA 2-3 thousand miles away. BTW I'm not talking the 9mm or brass knuckle shit you're most likely accustomed to.

:jest: typical response

Im barking up the wrong tree ha. People like you make me LOL you dont know me from the man on the moon. Talk to me when StopMen32 stops teabagging you since you :swing: so much.

Guys like you are easy to spot. A lifelong case of little man's syndrome coupled with a few other things, and a constant chip on your shoulder especially makes you easy to figure out. You're nobody special :lol: No matter how many times your mama told you that as a kid.

Guys like you are easy to spot. A lifelong case of little man's syndrome coupled with a few other things, and a constant chip on your shoulder especially makes you easy to figure out. You're nobody special :lol: No matter how many times your mama told you that as a kid.

Well im 6'3 225 I dont think thats big but sure as hell is not little man's syndrome. Ha Im nobody special thats funny you dont have the slightest clue who I am but I dont like to brag so ill let you keep running your mouth. I will sleep perfectly fine with my current lifestyle.

:Guys like you are easy to spot. A lifelong case of little man's syndrome coupled with a few other things, and a constant chip on your shoulder especially makes you easy to figure out. You're nobody special :lol: No matter how many times your mama told you that as a kid.

:engarde:

Exactly. StopMen32v's bolt on Mach 1 traps 108 LOL my auto bolt on WS6 trapped 112.9, what do you think would happen on the street :jest:

Yeah i know all motor honda's who trap same as the mach 1 with Intake header exhaust and Tuned on E85, The car ran a 12.6 with a 1.9 60ft. Not to offend anyone or anything.

See I agree with that as owning the faster car maybe from a roll race or the potential the car has to run faster down the 1/4 but Mustangs shine at the track so hard to blow them out of the water there.

Yeah the f-body with the stock rear end is def handicaped. But im pertty sure both cars cutting same 60fts we all know what would happen to the lower trapping car. So IMO (not stiring up bullshit) the srt8 is the faster car just because of that.

Well im 6'3 225 I dont think thats big but sure as hell is not little man's syndrome. Ha Im nobody special thats funny you dont have the slightest clue who I am but I dont like to brag so ill let you keep running your mouth. I will sleep perfectly fine with my current lifestyle.

Firstly, why do you respond twice to my posts? Just edit the post and add shit, no need to respond twice. I noticed this a few post ago.

Secondly, call my response "typical" all you want, it obviously bothers you (because people like you constantly have something to prove :jest:). I've also noticed that you get riled up pretty damn easily. I wish I had a nickel for every time you called someone a faggot, bitch, or some other term that an 12 year old overuses when he discovers cursing. YOU are PAR for the course :lol: take that however you want.

…and lastly, you aren't big. Size doesn't mean that much, the term "little man's syndrome" doesn't mean the person who has it is always "little" :lol: I used to think you had a few traces of intelligence but every time you post your ignorant hood shit I realize I've given you too much credit in the past.

Exactly. StopMen32v's bolt on Mach 1 traps 108 LOL my auto bolt on WS6 trapped 112.9, what do you think would happen on the street :jest:

tough to say.. is he holding the gears past redline?

Exactly. StopMen32v's bolt on Mach 1 traps 108 LOL my auto bolt on WS6 trapped 112.9, what do you think would happen on the street :jest:

My Mustang GT trapped 121mph, what do you think would happen if you ran one of my cars?

Firstly, why do you respond twice to my posts? Just edit the post and add shit, no need to respond twice. I noticed this a few post ago.

Secondly, call my response "typical" all you want, it obviously bothers you (because people like you constantly have something to prove :jest:). I've also noticed that you get riled up pretty damn easily. I wish I had a nickel for every time you called someone a faggot, bitch, or some other term that an 12 year old overuses when he discovers cursing. YOU are PAR for the course :lol: take that however you want.

…and lastly, you aren't big. Size doesn't mean that much, the term "little man's syndrome" doesn't mean the person who has it is always "little" :lol: I used to think you had a few traces of intelligence but every time you post your ignorant hood shit I realize I've given you too much credit in the past.

Ignorant hood shit LOL ok cowboy you gettin R done eh? shut the hell up you sound stupid. I have never posted any of this "Hood" shit you speak of on LS1tech your just the typical ignorant redneck talking shit behind a computer acting like you know it all when in reality I bet you have never left your neighborhood.....or stable LOL my bad

tough to say.. is he holding the gears past redline?

Spinning it all the way to 8k thats where it makes that 305hp :jest:

My Mustang GT trapped 121mph, what do you think would happen if you ran one of my cars?

Racing cars without motors......cool. You dont own these said cars other wise you wouldn't be driving a mach 1. You are far from a baller or someone with options. Weren't you just complaining about food stamps and not having a job not to long ago LOL. You cant buy parts on an EBT card son

http://i31.tinypic.com/aeli5s.jpg

Ignorant hood shit LOL ok cowboy you gettin R done eh? shut the hell up you sound stupid. I have never posted any of this "Hood" shit you speak of on LS1tech your just the typical ignorant redneck talking shit behind a computer acting like you know it all when in reality I bet you have never left your neighborhood.....or stable LOL my bad

Spinning it all the way to 8k thats where it makes that 305hp :jest:

You managed to reply to these but not my post? :lol: Wonder why..Here I'll make it more obvious to you.





















My Mustang GT trapped 121mph, what do you think would happen if you ran one of my cars?

Do you want to talk about your Mopar, AMG, or LS1s horsepower or torque vs my cars? We can do that too...

You managed to reply to these but not my post? :lol: Wonder why..Here I'll make it more obvious to you.























Read above.....oh my bad I forgot dial up doesn't load fast out in the boonies so you cant see my response for a few minutes. Carry on.

Racing cars without motors......cool. You dont own these said cars other wise you wouldn't be driving a mach 1. You are far from a baller or someone with options. Weren't you just complaining about food stamps and not having a job not to long ago LOL. You cant buy parts on an EBT card son


I don't own these cars? :lol: Are you serious? How did I get my names on the titles then? :confused:





Here how bout you post up one of your build threads and I'll post up my last one? I'm sure you've built a motor before since you are baller race car driver.

I don't own these cars? :lol: Are you serious? How did I get my names on the titles then? :confused:

Shall I go dig up the threads of you on SVTP talking about them being under the knife. Like I said racing cars without motors....cool, even "If" you still do own them so what. A few low dollar Mustangs, want a cookie?

Shall I go dig up the threads of you on SVTP talking about them being under the knife. Like I said racing cars without motors....cool

All my cars are under the knife, I constantly mod them. 95 is running and ready to go. What are you talking about no motors in them? I drive around the Mach 1 so I can pick on thugs like you in their Chargers with big 24" wheels. If I ran up on you with one of my other cars no way in hell you would try to run me.

My Mustang GT trapped 121mph, what do you think would happen if you ran one of my cars?

You managed to reply to these but not my post? :lol: Wonder why..Here I'll make it more obvious to you.




Do you want to talk about your Mopar, AMG, or LS1s horsepower or torque vs my cars? We can do that too...

Bench racing at its best......:jest::jest::jest:

Bench racing at its best......:jest::jest::jest:

Yet I'm the only one that posts timeslips... :jest:

:chug::corn: Literally....

I could tell you were "hood" before I knew you were "hood". When every other word is calling someone a name or trying to convince yourself that you're "somebody", it's easy to tell. Redneck? :lol: I've spent a lot of time around people like you in sports, on and off the field; enough to know what I need to know. Little man's syndrome kicking in again, huh? I like how you responded with a short, oh fuck I don't know how to reply to that sort of response, making yourself look even more ignorant. Your true colors are showing.

Nite what is the most power any of your cars have made? Have you ever even been part of the 500rwhp....600rwhp club?

Like I said before, have you ever even built a motor before? If so how much power did it make?

What's the fastest in the 1/4 or 1/8 you've ever gone with a stock motor?

Sure got quiet in here

Jesus man you two can fuck up a wet dream. Why does every thread involving a SRT8 turn into a 6.1 vs Mach 1 bitch fest?? There are several other threads that are debating the same old bs, take it over there. This shit was funny for a while, now its just getting old. Bottom line they are both 13sec cars stock which by todays standards is borderline crawling. :judge:

Jesus man you two can fuck up a wet dream. Why does every thread involving a SRT8 turn into a 6.1 vs Mach 1 bitch fest?? There are several other threads that are debating the same old bs, take it over there. This shit was funny for a while, now its just getting old. Bottom line they are both 13sec cars stock which by todays standards is borderline crawling. :judge:

You are right. I'll drop it seeing as how he will ignore my last post anyways. I'll just let my timeslips explain what a Mach 1 is capable of and he can let his timeslips explain what a SRT8 is capable of.

Back on topic. :judge:

You are right. I'll drop it seeing as how he will ignore my last post anyways. I'll just let my timeslips explain what a Mach 1 is capable of and he can let his timeslips explain what a SRT8 is capable of.

Back on topic. :judge:
:cheers:

:jest: this fuckin guy. LOL so my AMG and SRT8 aren't faster then your piece of shit mach 1....lol ok. How many videos and timeslips do I need to post to shut this faggot up? not only that but members on here who own non mopar cars have said they have seen me run those times or ran against me at the same track. Your not making any of us lose any sleep mustang boy. When is your mullet wearing ass going to realize I dont give two fucks about you? I smoke bolt on mach's on video and at the track thats all that matters. How does it feel to be able to barley afford a fucking piece of shit 8 year old mach 1 LOL bitch ass. And don't star shit out say what you feel tuff guy. People like you get their teeth knocked out where im from. Better keep that trailerpark talk in the boonies over there in Atlanta LOL

Maybe you should make a little drive and shut him up then? Sounds like you have the funds to do so.

However, if you have a colection of reproducable, accurate data that says they will do that all the time, I'm listening.

This is what separates you from the others and why I have a ton of respect for you man!! :)

I'll be waiting for a link to the 12.3 on drag radials pass from the manual 392. Curious about traps and DA... Once again no surprise on my end as the manual cars are greatly overshadowed in performance by the auto 392s.

392 is faster than a mach one stock for stock, mod for mod. I mean come on, what's with all the "you show me your dick then I'll show you mine"? lol. 6.1 is probably a big fat turd though. Get it's shit pushed in...by a Mach...on a sunny day...while there is a double rainbow in the sky. :secret2:.... Lol jk jk. I don't really care either way...but it's just all so amusing :P

My Bad im back homies, I had to go cross da street and pick up a 40 oz for my baby moms and dem. Then go stop by the unemployment office to see if McDonalds had any openings. Im back now tho

mmmm mcdonalds...best shit for a hangover. You're not drunk anymore now?

This is what separates you from the others and why I have a ton of respect for you man!! :)

I'll be waiting for a link to the 12.3 on drag radials pass from the manual 392. Curious about traps and DA... Once again no surprise on my end as the manual cars are greatly overshadowed in performance by the auto 392s.

He posted the slip on CT let me find it. It was this same guy that ran 12.4 perviously.

heres the 12.4 run let me see if I can find the 12.3 post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UynJ07382Qo

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mmmm mcdonalds...best shit for a hangover. You're not drunk anymore now?

Big Mack with a 40z and a few $5 scratch offs. We gone eat tonight!!!! LOL

ODDWRAITH...hope i did what you asked for correctly...i accepted your request..

mcdonalds and beer...awesome...lololol

amazing how the auto's in the chargers are quicker then the manuels, same thing with the ZL1...184mph with the m6 and 186mph with the auto...you're charger rocks night rider.

Firstly, why do you respond twice to my posts? Just edit the post and add shit, no need to respond twice. I noticed this a few post ago.

Secondly, call my response "typical" all you want, it obviously bothers you (because people like you constantly have something to prove :jest:). I've also noticed that you get riled up pretty damn easily. I wish I had a nickel for every time you called someone a faggot, bitch, or some other term that an 12 year old overuses when he discovers cursing. YOU are PAR for the course :lol: take that however you want.

…and lastly, you aren't big. Size doesn't mean that much, the term "little man's syndrome" doesn't mean the person who has it is always "little" :lol: I used to think you had a few traces of intelligence but every time you post your ignorant hood shit I realize I've given you too much credit in the past.

people like you are the type me and my friends make fun of LOL. You couldn't be more wrong about me. You haven't spent any time around people like me because I don't associate myself with people like you. Not only that but you wouldnt be let into the same places I step foot in. ^^^ But keep it up its all funny to me like I said you have no idea who your talking to :jest:

amazing how the auto's in the chargers are quicker then the manuels, same thing with the ZL1...184mph with the m6 and 186mph with the auto...you're charger rocks night rider.

Thanks bro I cant decide if I want to keep it or go 392. The stealership actually gave me a really good deal to trade my 6.1 in for a 2012 Charger SRT8 or 300 SRT8. As far as the 392 goes the aftermarket for them is opening up. They just did a head swap on an untuned 392 with the stock cam and gained 36rwhp. Once tunning is completely cracked these cars will be in the mid to low 11's with bolt ons.

:corn: I love this forum

Thanks bro I cant decide if I want to keep it or go 392. The stealership actually gave me a really good deal to trade my 6.1 in for a 2012 Charger SRT8 or 300 SRT8. As far as the 392 goes the aftermarket for them is opening up. They just did a head swap on an untuned 392 with the stock cam and gained 36rwhp. Once tunning is completely cracked these cars will be in the mid to low 11's with bolt ons.

That's 32rwhp with the stock cam, untuned? Man those 392's are monsters! I bet more than a few will break the 10-second barrier bolt-on/tune-only with just minor weight reduction.

My Bad im back homies, I had to go cross da street and pick up a 40 oz for my baby moms and dem. Then go stop by the unemployment office to see if McDonalds had any openings. Im back now tho

We gon' pay the rent today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol2DedEhOGI

We gon' pay the rent today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol2DedEhOGI

LMFAO :jest:

This is what separates you from the others and why I have a ton of respect for you man!! :)

THX brother.

He posted the slip on CT let me find it. It was this same guy that ran 12.4 perviously.

heres the 12.4 run let me see if I can find the 12.3 post


Solid run. At least they can get the time down with DRs. I have been casually lurking at CT so missed the 12.3 post. That place is worse than C5, never seen people hate everyone before. Usually if you own the same car you get treated somewhat ok but not at that place.

bolt on mach 1s run 8s.

Don't know what al this discussion is about. Not like a higher displacement more powerful engine can compete with them.

huh?...When did this become MoparTech? NiteRider please stock clogging up our threads with your uneducated biased opinion. On second thought, keep doing it, it makes for entertaining drama between all the brand loyal morons.

Flame suit on! Before you start, keep in mind that I am not loyal to any brand, I have designed parts for all of the Domestic OEM's. They all have their successes and failures, partly due to that fact that it's quite common for engineers to jump from company to company on a project basis.

My favorite project was working on the ZL1; If the oil cooler fails you can point at me :)

That being said, certain patterns emerge when you become familiar with the general engineering practices and acceptable tolerances within each OEM. Chrysler parts showed the widest acceptable tolerances and lowest safety factor compared to other OEM's. Something to think about...

huh?...When did this become MoparTech? NiteRider please stock clogging up our threads with your uneducated biased opinion. On second thought, keep doing it, it makes for entertaining drama between all the brand loyal morons.

Flame suit on! Before you start, keep in mind that I am not loyal to any brand, I have designed parts for all of the Domestic OEM's. They all have their successes and failures, partly due to that fact that it's quite common for engineers to jump from company to company on a project basis.

My favorite project was working on the ZL1; If the oil cooler fails you can point at me :)

That being said, certain patterns emerge when you become familiar with the general engineering practices and acceptable tolerances within each OEM. Chrysler parts showed the widest acceptable tolerances and lowest safety factor compared to other OEM's. Something to think about...

Bravo the most irrelevant post in this thread ^^^^^^ :jest: There is no opinion being given here, facts are being stated so before posting trying to look smart do your research. I have owned 2 LS1's and an LT1. And one im not proud of or ever mention...a v6 F-Body

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Chrysler parts showed the widest acceptable tolerances and lowest safety factor compared to other OEM's. Something to think about...


I can’t speak on the safety part of Chrysler. Generally speaking, components requiring a higher tolerance also have a higher failure rate under adverse conditions. Items designed to work without regard to tight tolerances, are generally easily replaceable, readily available, cheaper and easier to maintain. Just look at the western made turbine engines and aviation transmissions compared to Russian turbines and transmissions. You can literally run cinder blocks through Russian helicopter transmissions. Try that with one of ours. Just my 2 cents.

Bravo the most irrelevant post in this thread ^^^^^^ :jest: There is no opinion being given here, facts are being stated so before posting trying to look smart do your research. I have owned 2 LS1's and an LT1. And one im not proud of or ever mention...a v6 F-Body

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^ Are those skinnies I see ;)

^ Are those skinnies I see ;)

:flipbird: :burn:

Yea when the stars align. Average mach 1's dont run low 13's they run mid to high 13's @103-105

Wow....you are so unaware about many things man. You base many of your statements on hate for another car when in fact, you should do some research first.
Automatic MACHs run mid 13's..the M5 is a bit faster.

My Mach 1 runs mid 13's. :D

My Mach 1 runs mid 13's. :D:cheers:

Wow....you are so unaware about many things man. You base many of your statements on hate for another car when in fact, you should do some research first.
Automatic MACHs run mid 13's..the M5 is a bit faster.

Im not unaware about anything. I lived at the 1/4 for pretty much my entire highschool days. Wednesday night drags, Friday and Sunday. And our track back then is where people ran some of the best times around. Your average mach 1 M5 isnt running 13.0-13.1 I dont care how many people claim it or say it. I have seen enough great drivers barley hit 13.1 on rare occasions to know its not common. My Stock A4 LS1 ran 13.0-13.1@106-107 consistently and when I say consistently I mean 9 times out of 10 it would hit a 13 flat everytime. Bone stock m5 machs were running 13.4-13.5 at the same track. The more average were running high 13's. You know it and I know it most mach 1 owners didnt run low 13's stock. Not even on average.

Even Mach 1 owners agree..

"13.1 at 105 is the lowest I've seen but with a professional driver. That's not going to happen with a normal driver most likely. I say mid 13's to low 14's with a normal driver."

:gtfo:


OP i really hope you aren't proud of that "kill".

WHOA!! Didn't know I ever claimed that was a "kill"
Perhaps I should cruise back through my posts to make sure that wasn't the case. Drivability issues were noted in the video...and never stated it was a clear "W".....just a friendly couple of pulls...

Im not unaware about anything. I lived at the 1/4 for pretty much my entire highschool days. Wednesday night drags, Friday and Sunday. And our track back then is where people ran some of the best times around. Your average mach 1 M5 isnt running 13.0-13.1 I dont care how many people claim it or say it. I have seen enough great drivers barley hit 13.1 on rare occasions to know its not common. My Stock A4 LS1 ran 13.0-13.1@106-107 consistently and when I say consistently I mean 9 times out of 10 it would hit a 13 flat everytime. Bone stock m5 machs were running 13.4-13.5 at the same track. The more average were running high 13's. You know it and I know it most mach 1 owners didnt run low 13's stock. Not even on average.

Even Mach 1 owners agree..

"13.1 at 105 is the lowest I've seen but with a professional driver. That's not going to happen with a normal driver most likely. I say mid 13's to low 14's with a normal driver."

Not going to fight you on this because evidently you have your mind made up no matter how much proof is given. However, ask yourself this...if you take a stock MACH 1 and add bolt-ons and are able to trap 110+ and run mid 12's, how you could take a car that runs 14's (stock as you say) and are able to shave off enough time to run 12's and increase trap by 8 to 10 mph (based on a 14sec car)???? You logic does not make sense, man.
My point...Bolt-ons can increase performance but not by that much...Do you see where I am going with this?

BTW..please do NOT even tell me that MACH 1s with bolt-ons can't run mid 12's and trap 110+mph.

Wow....you are so unaware about many things man. You base many of your statements on hate for another car when in fact, you should do some research first.
Automatic MACHs run mid 13's..the M5 is a bit faster.

That statement is very misleading. Are you talking about with Evan Smith behind the wheel, at MIR, in -1500DA? Those auto Mach's are slouches in stock trim compared to their manual trans counterparts. 9x out of 10 a high 13-sec car.

5M Mach is an average mid 13 sec car, a tick or two behind an LS1 M6 with the LS1 trapping a bit higher.

That statement is very misleading. Are you talking about with Evan Smith behind the wheel, at MIR, in -1500DA? Those auto Mach's are slouches in stock trim compared to their manual trans counterparts. 9x out of 10 a high 13-sec car.

5M Mach is an average mid 13 sec car, a tick or two behind an LS1 M6 with the LS1 trapping a bit higher.

Of course MACH 1s run a "tic or two" behind the LS1...I have to remember I am on LS1Tech....my bad. Funny how different car forums claim different things..

Not going to fight you on this because evidently you have your mind made up no matter how much proof is given. However, ask yourself this...if you take a stock MACH 1 and add bolt-ons and are able to trap 110+ and run mid 12's, how you could take a car that runs 14's (stock as you say) and are able to shave off enough time to run 12's and increase trap by 8 to 10 mph (based on a 14sec car)???? You logic does not make sense, man.
My point...Bolt-ons can increase performance but not by that much...Do you see where I am going with this?

BTW..please do NOT even tell me that MACH 1s with bolt-ons can't run mid 12's and trap 110+mph.

I didnt say they ran 14's I said mid 13's on average and thats being realistic. and no 80% of bolt on Mach 1's arent running mid 12's@110+. Which goes to prove my point of them being mid 13@104-105 second cars on average. Most will and do run slower.

BTW..please do NOT even tell me that MACH 1s with bolt-ons can't run mid 12's and trap 110+mph.

They don't need to trap 110+mph to run mid 12's. :angel:

and no 80% of bolt on Mach 1's arent running mid 12's@110+. Which goes to prove my point of them being mid 13@104-105 second cars on average. Most will and do run slower.

:confused: His Mach 1 runs mid 12's with bolt ons...my Mach 1 runs mid 12's with bolt ons.

I guess I'm 10% and you are 10% MACH32V

5M Mach is an average mid 13 sec car, a tick or two behind an LS1 M6 with the LS1 trapping a bit higher.

I hate being a tick or two behind the bolt on LS1 M6s at the track. :(

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Hoodrider, do you know the definition of average? Look back to the post Stopsign quoted and then report back with your revised definition of "average" after you said most people run slower than average :lol: Ever been introduced to the bell curve? Means approximately the same amount of people run faster as do slower. Keep proving me right with every ignorant ass post you make, homey.

Hoodrider, do you know the definition of average? Look back to the post Stopsign quoted and then report back with your revised definition of "average" after you said most people run slower than average :lol: Ever been introduced to the bell curve? Means approximately the same amount of people run faster as do slower. Keep proving me right with every ignorant ass post you make, homey.

:jest::jest: "Hoodrider"!!! LOL
That was funny man!

I think we have a new alias for Niterider. :nod:

I didnt say they ran 14's I said mid 13's on average and thats being realistic. and no 80% of bolt on Mach 1's arent running mid 12's@110+. Which goes to prove my point of them being mid 13@104-105 second cars on average. Most will and do run slower.

So then..you do acknowledge that a "non average" MACH 1 can run low 13's at 105 - 106mph?...and that with Bolt-ons can run a mid 12?
This is what we have been trying to tell you...nothing more and nothing less.

Just curious....is this "Average" you speak of and others have mentioned...does this apply to drivers of 6.1L HEMIs and LS3 Camaros or is this only related to MACH1s or Mustangs. For some reason, this "average" is always brought up to somehow shave off .5 sec 1/4 mile times when it comes to the MACH1 but never with any other vehicle. Why is it that when the the 6.1 or LS3 is mentioned, the BEST times are always applied? I go to the local track almost every Thursday night for Test N Tune and I see SRT8 Challys running 8.6 in the 1/8. Is this average?
I'll give you a hint why-----------------:swing:

I saw a Challenger run 14.1 last time I went to the track. :lol: It sure seemed to be challenged.

:jest::jest: "Hoodrider"!!! LOL
That was funny man!

Jussssssss' sayin :) If it quacks like a duck...

Hoodrider, do you know the definition of average? Look back to the post Stopsign quoted and then report back with your revised definition of "average" after you said most people run slower than average :lol: Ever been introduced to the bell curve? Means approximately the same amount of people run faster as do slower. Keep proving me right with every ignorant ass post you make, homey.
lmao :bomb:

Hoodrider, do you know the definition of average? Look back to the post Stopsign quoted and then report back with your revised definition of "average" after you said most people run slower than average :lol: Ever been introduced to the bell curve? Means approximately the same amount of people run faster as do slower. Keep proving me right with every ignorant ass post you make, homey.

You finally got done milkin mamas cows and she let you get on the internet for a while? Hoodrider lol nice. I didnt know "Hood" people throw partys on 8 million dollar yachts. Wait that was 2 weeks ago when I did that. Didnt know Yachts came to the hood. Like I said. Keep acting like you know me. When we spot your kind in hollywood which is rare we look at you like your out of place. Let me guess. Cowboy boots, SN95 Cobra with the rear un painted, 200K miles, Bad Syncros with your chew laying next to the cupholder. LOL it goes both ways I know your "Kind" fuckin idiot. I live in a Loft in one of the nicest areas in Hollywood, somewhere you could only wish to live. But dont worry I still got dem choppas for tyrone and dem cuz. You know we bang out here in Beverly hills to. B Hills on mine.......people like you are a pure joke to me

Somebody is mad :lol: Talking stereotypes is not your strong point :rotflmao: cuz'. Can you elaborate on your lack of understanding of "average"? No? You can't? Wish I was surprised.

Keep adding onto your posts, too. I applaud you for your edits, mang. Either way, you're compensating for starting from behind, historically and literally speaking, G. ;)

Somebody is mad :lol: Talking stereotypes is not your strong point :rotflmao: cuz'. Can you elaborate on your lack of understanding of "average"? No? You can't? Wish I was surprised.

No lets keep going bitch so I can make you look like the typical peanut mind redneck you are. This is fun to me. I have ran into your kind many many MANY times in my day and it didn't end pretty. But just to prove my point even further about how you "Know my type". Let me show you our hood parking garage where I live ya know in the ghetto. We get errr thang.

PS. All cars shown were bought with foodstamps and EBT cards

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Ill wait for a typical response from the baller SN95 owner....

:lol: You keep trying to prove something...and it is pretty clear why. I'll regress from saying why because it's ban material. People like you are a dime a dozen. I'm sorry you started from behind initially :(

:lol: You keep trying to prove something...and it is pretty clear why. I'll regress from saying why because it's ban material. People like you are a dime a dozen. I'm sorry you started from behind initially :(

LOL. Talking reckless from behind a computer screen. Typical. I started out in front of you and im still in front of you. My life Shits on your life. My cars shits on your car. My bank accounts....notice I said accounts tramples your bank account. Want me to hurt your feelings more. This is just getting good and its to easy for me. Obviously your not shit since a "hood" dude is shitting on you right now. It doesn't get any worst then that.

Not that I'm focusing on your lack of education, bruh, but read through your response again and try to type something that reflects how good you have it :lol: Dude, you've lived your life thinking you have something to prove and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I'm sorry about the insecurity you have regarding your setbacks. How long does it take you to catch a cab? :rotflmao: Your 22" red rims are very fitting. Don't play the "what I've accomplished" game...:lol: by default, guys like you should get a harder pat on the back than me, yet they haven't for about...going on 5 years. Stick to what you're good at, and that is dealing drugs and running from gunshots :lol:

Edit: Any comment on the "average" concept?

Wow....you are so unaware about many things man. You base many of your statements on hate for another car when in fact, you should do some research first.
Automatic MACHs run mid 13's..the M5 is a bit faster.

I can do this all day.......

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2003/03/30/158354.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0212_2003_ford_mustang_mach_1/viewall.html

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featuredvehicles/173_0306_ford_mustang_mach_1_svt_cobra_comparison/index.html


There are those that have gone faster but should I count the mid 12 sec hero runs of the stock SRTs?

Any idiot can post times and not be truthful about mods/weight etc. I could do the same for the SRTs and pull up the stock hero runs but I don't. I have used the average test data for both cars and not my opinion. However, if you have a colection of reproducable, accurate data that says they will do that all the time, I'm listening.


Really...........

Edit: Any comment on the "average" concept?

Okay.... Stock

hero run low 13s (giving benefit of doubt to best Mach driver) + low 14s (no doubt majority of all mach divers) = low 27s / 2 = high 13s.....

Even on the Bell Curve they meet at the marority being the average. However, there are many more people running bad times than great times in every make vehicle.

Mods? Anything can be fast with enough $$$$.....

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How did a race thread turn to a black and white issue?...lol. Not all black people with nice things sell drugs to get them as not all "rednecks" are racist... can we all grow up, this racial shyt is VERY old... How bout this... Since you several bank accounts Nite why don't fly your SRT8 to SC where stopsign is and race... Since thats who your initial beef was with... you two settle up at the track or in the streets... whichever is easier...


Not that I'm focusing on your lack of education, bruh, but read through your response again and try to type something that reflects how good you have it :lol: Dude, you've lived your life thinking you have something to prove and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I'm sorry about the insecurity you have regarding your setbacks. How long does it take you to catch a cab? :rotflmao: Your 22" red rims are very fitting. Don't play the "what I've accomplished" game...:lol: by default, guys like you should get a harder pat on the back than me, yet they haven't for about...going on 5 years. Stick to what you're good at, and that is dealing drugs and running from gunshots :lol:

Edit: Any comment on the "average" concept?

Really...........

Willy...you quote way to many magazines, man...time to get out to the track or maybe do a little street racing just to see what's going on. :judge:

Willy...you quote way to many magazines, man...time to get out to the track or maybe do a little street racing just to see what's going on. :judge:

There are more Machs not being driven on the track than are. You need to read the re-read my post. Don't forget that I am actually Mustang biased and would like to see to the Mustangs beat everything. But I didn't drink the cool aid and I am not a sheeple to be hearded into BS. There is no point in going to any track to beat up on a stock Mach1 with an eng swapped SRT. What does that prove. I'm out every Saturday night seeing what's going on. Let me clue you in. Around here...:secret: It ain't the Machs.

Not that I'm focusing on your lack of education, bruh, but read through your response again and try to type something that reflects how good you have it :lol: Dude, you've lived your life thinking you have something to prove and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I'm sorry about the insecurity you have regarding your setbacks. How long does it take you to catch a cab? :rotflmao: Your 22" red rims are very fitting. Don't play the "what I've accomplished" game...:lol: by default, guys like you should get a harder pat on the back than me, yet they haven't for about...going on 5 years. Stick to what you're good at, and that is dealing drugs and running from gunshots :lol:

Edit: Any comment on the "average" concept?

A, seriously, you need to watch that racial bullshit. Don't think I can't purchase a first class ticket and come punch you dead in your face. No kidding.

Seriously though, leave the stereotypes out of the "Street Racing & Kill Stories" section. I understand Niterider gets all under your skin and everything, but were talking cars here, not racial demographics. Take that weak shit over to SVTP, or wherever else the fuck you came from! :)

Now let's get back to arguing over cars shall we.

Since you several bank accounts Nite why don't fly your SRT8 to SC where stopsign is and race... Since thats who your initial beef was with...

Now I'm game for that!!! :nod:

Hoodrider's type....all talk :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDiV15yvZu8&feature=related

Bone stock m5 machs were running 13.4-13.5 at the same track. The more average were running high 13's. You know it and I know it most mach 1 owners didnt run low 13's stock. Not even on average.

Even Mach 1 owners agree..QUOTE]
Lol I remember last time we were at CFR with about 15 Mustang GT's and Mach 1's running and we had to take bets on which one would get out of the 14's first. Iowa drivers aren't all that fantastic
[QUOTE=NiteRiderWS6;16369257]I live in a Loft in one of the nicest areas in Hollywood, somewhere you could only wish to live.
A loft? That has to be rather expensive out there. What do you do for a living? I can't talk as I'll likely end up renting out a room at my best friend's town home for a few years when he gets out of the army and I'm out of school. Makes sense for me as I'll likely rarely be home and will just be saving up bank for a house

We ALWAYS roll on dem tenny tens, all day ery day! Racin Hoodrider style BEEEYYYYYYOOOOTCHHH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArbzoXZL1uY&feature=related

The Chevy at 2:43 is pretty f*ckin HOT!!!

the title of that video should have been (Pull out or shut up). Whats with all the personal bullshit in here? I find it funny how you try and play up your Mach1`s, like they were EVER considered fast. Hell Juice would wax a mach1 with his SHO lmao. ANY mustang, pre 11`, with the exception of the 03/04 cobra, was a waste of fuel. There are people on the GTO sites that bought a 13` GT500 and REFUSE to go to svtp or any other site because of people like you. Is this what gets your rocks off, arguing about cars on a swebsite that has absolutley nothing to do with you? Do you really have no life, that EVERY single thread thats posted you come in with both nuts in your mouth, barley able to type the same tired ass shit in the new thread, that you just did in the last? Jesus christ, this is why i will never own a mustang.

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We ALWAYS roll on dem tenny tens, all day ery day! Racin Hoodrider style BEEEYYYYYYOOOOTCHHH!!!

Serious Question: Are you selling your Mach 1? I need a hoopty just to smash around and pick up chicks to bring them back to the house in. I want something that I won't really care about getting scratched up or a dent every now and then. Name a price!

Of course MACH 1s run a "tic or two" behind the LS1...I have to remember I am on LS1Tech....my bad. Funny how different car forums claim different things..

It's true, on the M1registry there is no scenario where my ls1 is faster or better. Come to ls1tech and there is no scenario where the Mach 1 is faster or better than my ls1.

I love how owning a size of rims makes you a certain type of person. Retarded way of thought.

Edit: NiteRiderWS6, you should move over to miami! Im bored by how many lambos i see weekly lol.

It's true, on the M1registry there is no scenario where my ls1 is faster or better. Come to ls1tech and there is no scenario where the Mach 1 is faster or better than my ls1.

It's really no fucking surprise. lol Ls1 M6's are a tad faster than a Mach stock for stock. Even the most honest, loyal Mach 1 owners (like my old self) wouldn't be afraid to admit that. Nothing some gears and tires wouldn't make up for.

Fanboys get the dick up out your ass.

I swear, I've been trying to hold out, but I'm getting ready to slaughter this thread @ any given moment now!

It's really no fucking surprise. lol Ls1 M6's are a tad faster than a Mach stock for stock. Even the most honest, loyal Mach 1 owners (like my old self) wouldn't be afraid to admit that. Nothing some gears and tires wouldn't make up for.

Fanboys get the dick up out your ass.

YUP! Hit the nail on the head

YUP! Hit the nail on the head

I'm pretty sure that no one said that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't be a match for a Stock LS1 on the track. That would be stupid.

I'm pretty sure that no one said that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't me a match for a Stock LS1 on the track. That would be stupid.

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I stated this like on the 3rd page or something. Ive seen stock ls1's trap 105-108 mph Thats more than a "tad" faster than a stock mach 1. Don't the m5s trap 104-105 from what you guys claim? I mean shit doesn't stopsigns car trap 108 with mods?

Friends old BONE stock ss Running 13.1 at 107

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUZbPn7c1F0


This guy claims stock that trap speed is questionable but it SOUNDS stock as shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iOpOtxufko

I'm pretty sure that no one said that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't me a match for a Stock LS1 on the track. That would be stupid.

By me saying "hit the nail on the head" how did you come up with I meant that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't be a match for a stock LS1? Wow

By me saying "hit the nail on the head" how did you come up with I meant that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't be a match for a stock LS1? Wow

I've been wondering the same thing..

By me saying "hit the nail on the head" how did you come up with I meant that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't be a match for a stock LS1? Wow

I actually think he was agreeing with you. He was being slightly derogatory, but agreeing with you nonetheless. Of course a geared/tire Mach 1 is a match for a stock LS1. It's more than a match in my opinion.

By me saying "hit the nail on the head" how did you come up with I meant that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't be a match for a stock LS1? Wow

I've been wondering the same thing..

I'm pretty sure that no one said that a geared/tire Mach 1 couldn't be a match for a Stock LS1 on the track. That would be stupid.

I was agreeing with him.

Too many people want to argue opinions instead of facts. Refuse to accept proven, repeatable test data and fail to provide real unbiased proof to support their statements. Peoples track slips are not an accurate way to gauge a cars performance. Too many liars about mods/weight. To many uncontrollable track condition variables. The only way to even the playing field between two cars at different locations would to be to DA correct the times. Even then it doesn't take in consideration the track prep. But it is closer.

Average track times really shouldn't be used without knowing all facts. IMO, a "best" run of a certain car, can show what it can do with perfect launch in perfect weather. I'm pretty sure an SRT8 is 12.5, an LS2 GTO is 12.6, C5 is 12.6, not sure on the Mach1???

the title of that video should have been (Pull out or shut up). Whats with all the personal bullshit in here? I find it funny how you try and play up your Mach1`s, like they were EVER considered fast. Hell Juice would wax a mach1 with his SHO lmao. ANY mustang, pre 11`, with the exception of the 03/04 cobra, was a waste of fuel. There are people on the GTO sites that bought a 13` GT500 and REFUSE to go to svtp or any other site because of people like you. Is this what gets your rocks off, arguing about cars on a swebsite that has absolutley nothing to do with you? Do you really have no life, that EVERY single thread thats posted you come in with both nuts in your mouth, barley able to type the same tired ass shit in the new thread, that you just did in the last? Jesus christ, this is why i will never own a mustang.

Waste of fuel? Lol what do you think your.ls1 goat is? Slowest ls1?

How much faster is your goat to a mach ?.

Average track times really shouldn't be used without knowing all facts. IMO, a "best" run of a certain car, can show what it can do with perfect launch in perfect weather. I'm pretty sure an SRT8 is 12.5, an LS2 GTO is 12.6, C5 is 12.6, not sure on the Mach1???

Absolutely :judge:

Average track times really shouldn't be used without knowing all facts. IMO, a "best" run of a certain car, can show what it can do with perfect launch in perfect weather. I'm pretty sure an SRT8 is 12.5, an LS2 GTO is 12.6, C5 is 12.6, not sure on the Mach1???

C5 frc slower than a Srt 8?

Absolutely

Why not?? Every car has a hero run. Hero runs are more accurate then saying, "Hey, I ran 12.8 at 111 with bolt-ons" and the other guy "hey I ran 12.6 with bolt-ons". No one knows 60', DA, what track, what track prep, amount of fuel, cool down time, etc etc. At least we all know hero runs were done in great air, good track prep, great 60', probably low fuel, and if documented, then hopefully it's true OEM weight.

C5 frc slower than a Srt 8?

Not sure, only reason I say this was because on another forum I'm on, a guy with a C5 said he was the quickest completely stock at 12.6. I think that's a believable time based solely on the LS2 GTO best stock time.

To me, the SRT8 stock time, does seem awfully low, but if it has happened, then it has happened.