Street Racing & Kill Stories - Not an LS win - but a GM win nonetheless - Cobalt SS/TC Vs Built Integra Turbo




M29_Formula
05-28-2012, 08:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pr3iBQIaOU

The Integra owner claims no accurate horsepower figures due to spinning on the dyno. My Cobalt runs a 13.1 @ 110mph with a 8600ft DA. :cool:


marc97taws6
05-28-2012, 08:05 PM
Nice kill!

Ohh boy - the typical Honda/Acura sound... bababababababa, shift, bapbapbapbap, shift rrrrrbababa

M29_Formula
05-28-2012, 08:12 PM
Nice kill!

Ohh boy - the typical Honda/Acura sound... bababababababa, shift, bapbapbapbap, shift rrrrrbababa

Sad part is that in that video he launched in 2nd gear. We did a run before that and he launched in 1st -- gave up before the 8th mile. He desperately needs some slicks on 15s.

I'm on street tires in the vid also, no drag radials. 225/40/18 Conti DWS XTRM Contacts with about 1/2 tread life left. Still kinda hook. :lol:


ScreaminRedZ
05-28-2012, 08:34 PM
8600' DA is just outlandish. Good kill, man!

Ju1ce
05-28-2012, 08:38 PM
Integra better get new brakes...

ZFreie
05-28-2012, 08:43 PM
8600' DA is just outlandish. Good kill, man! I know its boosted, but wonder how much he would gain with a close to 0 DA :usa:

Integra better get new brakes...Naaa, everyone loves the sparks! Extra street cred.

O-FiveCC
05-28-2012, 08:44 PM
Corrected to a 0 DA would be 12.4 at 114 for the Cobalt's boosted setup. For a built NA motor running the same times, it would be an 11.6

hugger1975
05-28-2012, 08:51 PM
That's a mean cobalt *envy*

But dude, u can fit 235's on the stock rims.
Helps a little. I spin at 40 with the 235 contis :lol:

turtle93
05-28-2012, 10:19 PM
What do mean not an ls could have sworn cobalt-ss/ion redline/gxp solstice/sky redline all had lsj motor so it's an ls good job by the way

M29_Formula
05-28-2012, 10:28 PM
What do mean not an ls could have sworn cobalt-ss/ion redline/gxp solstice/sky redline all had lsj motor so it's an ls good job by the way

Turbo Cobalt = LNF

M29_Formula
05-28-2012, 10:30 PM
8600' DA is just outlandish. Good kill, man!

Gay shit happens to your DA when your home track is already at 5800ft above sea level.

marc97taws6
05-28-2012, 10:36 PM
LNF is an impressive motor.

Wish my dad would mod his Solstice GXP more. Took me 5 years to convince him to get a tune :mad:

ZFreie
05-28-2012, 10:44 PM
LNF is an impressive motor.

Wish my dad would mod his Solstice GXP more. Took me 5 years to convince him to get a tune :mad::rotflmao: Sounds like my dad, keep telling him to do SOMETHING to his 5.7 300, and instead he goes and buys a bike. :jest:

dsmfan95
05-29-2012, 12:14 AM
Gay shit happens to your DA when your home track is already at 5800ft above sea level.

What track did you run at?

Red_GHost
05-29-2012, 01:33 AM
Nice Kill OP. How much power is the SS putting down?
That Integra needs slicks bad
(Hell any car that spins that bad needs them lol)

HioSSilver
05-29-2012, 06:43 AM
Good kill!! I been wanting to see some of these runs. Cobalts are pretty badass......honda's are shit.

Ju1ce
05-29-2012, 07:52 AM
Good kill!! I been wanting to see some of these runs. Cobalts are pretty badass......honda's are shit.

Pretty ignorant comment right here.
According to Cobaltss.net;
If you count out shop cars, the fastest Cobalt ever ran a 11.952@117.62mph.

I'm pretty sure I could build a Honda in my back yard using nothing but a 10mm socket to run quicker than 11.9...

BigBirdLS1
05-29-2012, 08:38 AM
Juice that sounds like a challenge lol.

AznMuscle
05-29-2012, 08:41 AM
Sorry, I had to fucking laugh at 8600 DA. That is horrible. Makes me feel good about when I used to run in 5-6k DA.

HioSSilver
05-29-2012, 10:47 AM
Pretty ignorant comment right here.
According to Cobaltss.net;
If you count out shop cars, the fastest Cobalt ever ran a 11.952@117.62mph.

I'm pretty sure I could build a Honda in my back yard using nothing but a 10mm socket to run quicker than 11.9...

Not really.....show me a Honda that goes into the 12's with boltons and a tune.

LightningTeg
05-29-2012, 10:49 AM
Good kill!! I been wanting to see some of these runs. Cobalts are pretty badass......honda's are shit.

Man your logic doesnt make sense. A cobalt is in the same class as a civic in my eyes. Its still an economy FWD car at the end of the day.


Dig run was bad for integra lol. Would be curious to see a roll.

HioSSilver
05-29-2012, 11:03 AM
Man your logic doesnt make sense. A cobalt is in the same class as a civic in my eyes. Its still an economy FWD car at the end of the day.


Dig run was bad for integra lol. Would be curious to see a roll.

My logic is still the same. But atleast the Turbo Cobalt is a decent performance car from the factory. Good suspension, good brakes, factory turbo. It leaves the factory faster than the best honda being produced.

A tune bolt-on 4dr Cobalt just wiped the floor with a aftermarket boosted Honda......nough said.

Hell did honda ever even make a car as fast as the Cobalt SS?

HioSSilver
05-29-2012, 11:25 AM
Just took a look at the ring lap times. The Colbalt SS owns all honda's except the NSX(actually it does beat 1). The HHR SS owns all front drive honda's too........but them there honda's are great cars....:jest::jest:

I take this list with a grain a salt though......but I think a 25 sec beat down over the nearest front drive honda means the Cobalt has it covered pretty good.

M29_Formula
05-29-2012, 11:38 AM
Pretty ignorant comment right here.
According to Cobaltss.net;
If you count out shop cars, the fastest Cobalt ever ran a 11.952@117.62mph.

I'm pretty sure I could build a Honda in my back yard using nothing but a 10mm socket to run quicker than 11.9...

Not true, that's the fastest non-shop car STOCK TURBO Cobalt time. The same guy has since upgraded beyond the stock turbo and he's almost into the 10's.

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drag-racing-52/official-list-drag-times-266338/index4.html

11.05 @ 130.

M29_Formula
05-29-2012, 11:39 AM
What track did you run at?

Bandimere in Denver, CO.

hugger1975
05-29-2012, 11:55 AM
Oh look, juice makes his yeary appearance to call out the cobalts.... :lol:

Hey juice, I was to lazy to post the ls2 goat I pulled from a 40 roll yesterday.

Just sayin :stir:

hugger1975
05-29-2012, 11:55 AM
Bandi is an awesome track....but its almost in the clouds :lol:

NOLAG05
05-29-2012, 12:08 PM
what do track times have to do with running on the street? If you come to Maryland i know alot of fast civics that you can run...
Don't take this the wrong way but there are plenty of imports that can be made fast...

Just took a look at the ring lap times. The Colbalt SS owns all honda's except the NSX(actually it does beat 1). The HHR SS owns all front drive honda's too........but them there honda's are great cars....:jest::jest:

I take this list with a grain a salt though......but I think a 25 sec beat down over the nearest front drive honda means the Cobalt has it covered pretty good.

NOLAG05
05-29-2012, 12:10 PM
Almost forgot... good kill OP!!

HioSSilver
05-29-2012, 12:36 PM
what do track times have to do with running on the street? If you come to Maryland i know alot of fast civics that you can run...
Don't take this the wrong way but there are plenty of imports that can be made fast...

It's pretty easy to get something to go down the 1/4 fast if that's your only goal. The Cobalts 'ring track times proves it can do more. Pretty good overall cars compared to the competition. The only other imports that I know of would be the sti or evo and with awd are not in the same class.

Heater
05-29-2012, 12:50 PM
So now Cobalt's are "great" cars :confused:

FlatBlackZ28
05-29-2012, 12:54 PM
So now Cobalt's are "great" cars :confused:

The turbo cars can hit 12's with just a tune and a tire can't they? Sounds pretty great to me. They're right at the top of the list for FWD performance these days.

NOLAG05
05-29-2012, 01:15 PM
gotcha... just checkin...lol. back to work for me...

It's pretty easy to get something to go down the 1/4 fast if that's your only goal. The Cobalts 'ring track times proves it can do more. Pretty good overall cars compared to the competition. The only other imports that I know of would be the sti or evo and with awd are not in the same class.

gregsss
05-29-2012, 01:48 PM
So now Cobalt's are "great" cars :confused:

They r good cars. The SS/TC great car in the twisties.

LightningTeg
05-29-2012, 04:08 PM
I wont argue that Cobalts arent good cars. I would consider one if I was 18 lol.

But you still cant just discredit hondas. The Integra type R Held the title best handling FWD from its 1997 release and is still at the top of that list.

HioSSilver
05-29-2012, 04:13 PM
Integra type r was 21 sec. slower around the ring.......more over got it's ass whooped. I've got a couple friends with honda's. I tell them the same thing, fine economy car, shitty hotrods.

M29_Formula
05-29-2012, 06:53 PM
Hard to beat the bang-for-the-buck factor on a Cobalt SS/TC. With just adding a catless downpipe, better FMIC, and an E85 tune I went from a 14.1 @ 102 to a 13.1 @ 110. All that cost about $740 to achieve. The tune made a huge difference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V154Ow7Z8zI

dsmfan95
05-29-2012, 06:59 PM
Integra type r was 21 sec. slower around the ring.......more over got it's ass whooped. I've got a couple friends with honda's. I tell them the same thing, fine economy car, shitty hotrods.

Considering the power difference, that's not as big of a gap as I expected.

T.Man
05-31-2012, 11:57 PM
Lol I always loved the hate my SS/TC sedan garnered. My tuning, e-blend, intake tube and DP had me pulling cars that the forum warriors said was impossible.

Great kill OP!

M29_Formula
06-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Lol I always loved the hate my SS/TC sedan garnered. My tuning, e-blend, intake tube and DP had me pulling cars that the forum warriors said was impossible.

Great kill OP!

I'm dying to get a new CTS-V, ZL1, GT500, or Boss kill on tape, but there's none around me that wanna play. I'm at altitude, so I have an advantage over N/A or S/C cars.

I raced a 2011 CTS-V coupe from a 40 roll to 120 before I was on my E85 tune and he only got me by about 2 cars with me letting him get the hit. I need to run that car again so he can lose.

M29_Formula
06-01-2012, 12:16 AM
Or maybe I could race one of those "bolt-on mach 1s". ;)

roninsonic
06-02-2012, 07:10 PM
Good kill, OP.

That being said... That's not a "built" Honda... That's a bolt-on turbo kit and a tune, and probably headstuds... Hell, He's even still running on the GSR IM... And tire wouldn't help him. I'd bet a paycheck that he's still got the stock open diff.

Even after clearing that up... You still put a hurtin' on him, which is damned impressive in my book. Even a bolt-on kit on a b18c1 should be putting down at least 300-350whp, unless he's running wastegate only. Either way, your SS is haulin'

Tell your boy to do a little research on the Blox 1.5 lsd's. They're budget-friendly, and hold up great if you rip them apart and clean them up. A good LSD coupled with an s300 with boost by gear and a 5-6lb wastegate spring for leaving on, and he should be able to climb out of the hole a little better... Then y'all could have a little more even of a grudge match ;)

*SIGH* Typing all that makes me miss my old Honda's a little :P

O-FiveCC
06-02-2012, 07:30 PM
Miss your old Honda's. GM just owned that shit.

roninsonic
06-02-2012, 07:55 PM
Miss your old Honda's. GM just owned that shit.

Hey, Honda's were all I could afford when I was in HS, and you can frankenstein the shit out of them and wind up with something relatively quick for cheap.

TBH, I'd still be dicking with Honda's if it weren't for a few things.
1) ALL THE MOTHERFUCKERS STEALING SHIT AND BREAKING INTO CARS
2) The immaturity in the scene in general
3) FWD's are a pain in the ass if you want to run consistent times
4) the HP/Dollar ratio is pretty damned high once you get past about 350-400whp

5) A fast Honda is still a fucking Honda. A fast Camaro is a rolling pussy magnet. (Or, as my ex called it, a vibrator on wheels.)

M29_Formula
06-03-2012, 09:30 AM
Good kill, OP.

That being said... That's not a "built" Honda... That's a bolt-on turbo kit and a tune, and probably headstuds... Hell, He's even still running on the GSR IM... And tire wouldn't help him. I'd bet a paycheck that he's still got the stock open diff.

Even after clearing that up... You still put a hurtin' on him, which is damned impressive in my book. Even a bolt-on kit on a b18c1 should be putting down at least 300-350whp, unless he's running wastegate only. Either way, your SS is haulin'

Tell your boy to do a little research on the Blox 1.5 lsd's. They're budget-friendly, and hold up great if you rip them apart and clean them up. A good LSD coupled with an s300 with boost by gear and a 5-6lb wastegate spring for leaving on, and he should be able to climb out of the hole a little better... Then y'all could have a little more even of a grudge match ;)

*SIGH* Typing all that makes me miss my old Honda's a little :P

He's got forged internals and I think he said he was running about 16psi or so. Another guy from the shop he works at claimed over 400 to the wheels before it couldn't get an accurate reading. Dunno if it has a limited slip tho. The guy who owns it is one of the "Honda guys" here in town that people say supposedly knows all there is to know about Honda stuff.

roninsonic
06-04-2012, 05:44 AM
call BS on his ass... He's probably got Ebay Nippon hypereutectic pistons and aftermarket rod bolts. As far as the diff goes, well... Either he driving on spares AND is the worst driver to ever exist, or he's still got an open diff. I had a stripper CRX with a boosted b20 frank motor putting down 519 on E85, and it hooked up better than that on shitty Fuzion HRi's. The dyno slip is BS too. Unless the dyno operator was a complete retard and didn't strap it right.

Call him out on his crap in front of all the Honda guys... He'll catch shit for six months about how the Chevy guy driving a Cobalt knows more about how to set up a honda than he does :P

M29_Formula
06-06-2012, 09:59 AM
call BS on his ass... He's probably got Ebay Nippon hypereutectic pistons and aftermarket rod bolts. As far as the diff goes, well... Either he driving on spares AND is the worst driver to ever exist, or he's still got an open diff. I had a stripper CRX with a boosted b20 frank motor putting down 519 on E85, and it hooked up better than that on shitty Fuzion HRi's. The dyno slip is BS too. Unless the dyno operator was a complete retard and didn't strap it right.

Call him out on his crap in front of all the Honda guys... He'll catch shit for six months about how the Chevy guy driving a Cobalt knows more about how to set up a honda than he does :P

Here's his official mods list (copied from a local forum):

Wiseco 9 to 1 pistons, eagle forged rods, Defcon sleeved block, ARP head studs, rod bolts, main bolts, Stock OEM GSR head, Precision 1600cc injectors, AEM fuel rail , Walbro 255 fuel pump, MSD Ignition, MSD external coil, Hondata S300, Spoolin performance turbo manifold and 3inch down pipe, Turbonetics 60mm Turbo, Tial 44mm Wastgate, Tial 50mm bov, ACT Clutch

AznMuscle
06-06-2012, 10:11 AM
Built motor in that case, but I see nothing regarding what diff he is running. Also what trans is it? Stock head, meh, and if that head is stock, probably stock IM as well. I'm calling maybe 350 hp. With those forged parts he should be running more boost....if he was smart, he would go e85 and 21 or more lbs. After he works out his traction issues.

roninsonic
06-06-2012, 01:18 PM
HMMM... That would be what I'd call a 'lego build', assuming he's not just lying his ass off. Something is DEF. not right there. Except for the top end setup, that SOUNDS like a decent build. Even IF he's telling the truth, he's retarded. That manifold is a quality piece, and that bottom end he has spec'd out is for the big boys. That setup should be pushing 450-500whp easy, even without a properly spec'd top end. Either he's lying, has a retarded tuner, or has a turbo that's way out of its efficiency range.

LightningTeg
06-06-2012, 02:57 PM
Basically comes down to not putting any focus on where it matters, putting the power to the ground.

roninsonic
06-06-2012, 03:48 PM
Basically comes down to not putting any focus on where it matters, putting the power to the ground.

THIS. An LSD, boost by gear, some decent tire, and some motor and torque mounts go a LONG way.

LightningTeg, is your sig right? You're putting down 513 on a b18b? If so, that's NICE. What cams did you use?

LightningTeg
06-06-2012, 04:14 PM
THIS. An LSD, boost by gear, some decent tire, and some motor and torque mounts go a LONG way.

LightningTeg, is your sig right? You're putting down 513 on a b18b? If so, that's NICE. What cams did you use?

I've got all those things + traction bars and it does really well. Will hook in 1st gear at 7lbs if I roll into it.

Old numbers on 93. Spun a rod bearing when it over boosted.

On E85 now shooting for 500whp. Pretty close to maxing the fuel system.

Stock PR4 head with Crower 404s

BBAP2
06-06-2012, 05:12 PM
This is sad LMAO. A properly built NA (all motor) honda would destroy a 1320 time of 13.1 lol. Race a real honda. NA or boosted. You are pretty much way too slow do deal with the big dog hondas lol. 13.1???? that is very very slow for a boosted anything Lmao....

roninsonic
06-06-2012, 06:49 PM
This is sad LMAO. A properly built NA (all motor) honda would destroy a 1320 time of 13.1 lol. Race a real honda. NA or boosted. You are pretty much way too slow do deal with the big dog hondas lol. 13.1???? that is very very slow for a boosted anything Lmao....

um.... Troll much?

What do you drive, exactly?

M29_Formula
06-06-2012, 09:59 PM
This is sad LMAO. A properly built NA (all motor) honda would destroy a 1320 time of 13.1 lol. Race a real honda. NA or boosted. You are pretty much way too slow do deal with the big dog hondas lol. 13.1???? that is very very slow for a boosted anything Lmao....

Come up to my altitude bro. 8600ft DA at a 5800ft above sea level track is no joke for a gay little non-boosted Honda. A stock K20 Civic Si is a mid to high 16 second car up here. I watched a K20 swapped EG hatch with basic bolt-ons struggle to crack off mid 13s -- he was running slicks even. There's not a single daily-driven street car Honda in my town that can beat my lowly Cobalt with 4 things done to it. There's lots of them running around with half-ass turbo setups on them and I've decimated every single one of them.

The Integra from the vid and me are going to have a rematch soon - he's going to bolt on his 15" slicks and I'm going to bolt on my 225/45/17 drag radials and we're gonna go at it again.

M29_Formula
06-06-2012, 10:17 PM
Here, enjoy these, all courtesy of people racing at my local strip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojj5ZurTMGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbY9a07pRQ

http://youtu.be/NhL_t6Cf4cE

lol

LightningTeg
06-07-2012, 05:46 AM
I would go into depression if I ever went to that track lol

HioSSilver
06-07-2012, 06:54 AM
Probably see alot of guys walking around like wee man kicking their self in the forehead at that track.

willizm
06-07-2012, 08:07 AM
This is sad LMAO. A properly built NA (all motor) honda would destroy a 1320 time of 13.1 lol. Race a real honda. NA or boosted. You are pretty much way too slow do deal with the big dog hondas lol. 13.1???? that is very very slow for a boosted anything Lmao....

Word? Cool story bro!

ZFreie
06-07-2012, 09:18 AM
I would go into depression if I ever went to that track lolLOL Viper at 13.5. Id be afraid Id run a 17 in the lt1 lol

evangto87
06-07-2012, 09:39 AM
local All motor crx with full interior (quite clean actually) runs 11.8 at 118. Its now reving another 2k rpm. Might break 120+ in the quarter.

M29_Formula
06-07-2012, 11:58 AM
local All motor crx with full interior (quite clean actually) runs 11.8 at 118. Its now reving another 2k rpm. Might break 120+ in the quarter.

Is that the black one with the K20 swap I've seen? I saw one last year that was a shop car of some sort that ran like mid 12s.

EDIT: NM, you're not local to me. There's a black CRX with a K20 swap that's completely gutted to the max and has like almost every N/A bolt-on known to man that I saw at Bandimere that was clicking off mid-high 12s @ 112 or so.

M29_Formula
06-07-2012, 12:02 PM
LOL Viper at 13.5. Id be afraid Id run a 17 in the lt1 lol

A healthy LT1 is a very high 14 second to mid 15 second car here with minimal mods. I see lots of them with full bolt-ons hitting the mid-low 14 range. My LT1 Formula 6-speed I used to have only managed mid 14s with exhaust, intake, gears, and some minor other stuff. :(

GXPPOWER
06-08-2012, 08:09 PM
LNF is an impressive motor.

Wish my dad would mod his Solstice GXP more. Took me 5 years to convince him to get a tune :mad:

sadly if you do some reading for whatever reason the solstices are not Nearly as tuneable as the cobalts

hugger1975
06-08-2012, 08:27 PM
I hear that too.
Not sure why.

Do the solstice have the direct port and the same sensors as the gms1?

T.Man
06-10-2012, 05:59 PM
sadly if you do some reading for whatever reason the solstices are not Nearly as tuneable as the cobalts

I hear that too.
Not sure why.

Do the solstice have the direct port and the same sensors as the gms1?

Not true at all. Same controller, motor, etc. There are some differences in the base tune but none the less, still potent if someone competent enough is doing the tuning, with understanding what tables do what and how they interact with each other and isnt just following someone's write up.

FlatBlackZ28
06-10-2012, 08:28 PM
A healthy LT1 is a very high 14 second to mid 15 second car here with minimal mods. I see lots of them with full bolt-ons hitting the mid-low 14 range. My LT1 Formula 6-speed I used to have only managed mid 14s with exhaust, intake, gears, and some minor other stuff. :(

What DA do you usually run in? At about 3000 DA, the old bone stock LT1's I've seen run here are in the low 14's. Stock LS1's run high 13's.

M29_Formula
06-11-2012, 11:24 AM
What DA do you usually run in? At about 3000 DA, the old bone stock LT1's I've seen run here are in the low 14's. Stock LS1's run high 13's.

DA at Bandimere is usually between 7000 to 9000. Track elevation is 5800ft to start with, so shit goes downhill pretty quickly once the temperature heats up.

M29_Formula
06-17-2012, 11:12 PM
Just gonna stir it a little:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVfeLg9Rfco

The Integra I ran runs twice in that video. He's on slicks even. Something tells me he's down on power because I'm out-trapping him with my 110mph.