Multimedia Exchange - Stock ZR1 vs Stock Gt500

I wonder how many car lengths the ZR1 will put on the the new gt500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgO02IKPsDg

2013 gt500?

I think the '13 will be a good race for a zr1...

Awww dang I was hoping for a 2013 not that one. I think it will be a much different video with a 700hp 2013 gt500.

We all knew that outcome :lol: Ouch!

Awww dang I was hoping for a 2013 not that one. I think it will be a much different video with a 700hp 2013 gt500.

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

So are you really saying the zl1 will out run the gt500 (2013) in a mile run?

So are you really saying the zl1 will out run the gt500 (2013) in a mile run?

:stupid:

Hey! Lol it has been over 200mph in 5th gear ( Nardo track in Italy).. http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/drives/driven-2013-ford-shelby-gt500

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

And the ZL1 that went over 200 was far from bone stock.

So are you really saying the zl1 will out run the gt500 (2013) in a mile run?

the video i watched it didn't break 200, not sure who would win in the mile. Camaro is like a brick going down the road.

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

You should really get your shit straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.


the video i watched it didn't break 200, not sure who would win in the mile. Camaro is like a brick going down the road.

How are you not sure?? The GT500 is trapping 10mph higher than the ZL1, that makes for a major ass kicking in a mile race.

This was a no brainer

You should really get your shit straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.




How are you not sure?? The GT500 is trapping 10mph higher than the ZL1, that makes for a major ass kicking in a mile race.

I like to see the zr1 run over 200mph also in those condition. I'm sure it will be close or may reach it due to aerodynamics

ZR1 substantially lighter and carries less weight per hp than the GT500.
It cuts thru the air better also. ZR1 for the win.

I still would like to see a run with both and even a gt500 against a c6 zo6

The 13 gt 500 a good race for the zr1? LOL

The 13 gt 500 a good race for the zr1? LOL

Who said that? Or are you asking.:confused:

Look up top. On mobile can't qoute.

Oh lol..

Should have been a '13GT500 Vs a C6ZO6

The 13 gt 500 a good race for the zr1? LOLYeah really LOL...it's a good race for a C6 Z06 maybe, but the C6 ZR1 should cover it no problem. Stock versus stock of course.

The quickest bone stock C6 ZR1 has run a best of 10.6@132+mph (quickest bone stock C6 Z06 is 10.9@128+mph) in the 1/4 mile, so until a bone stock 2013 Mustang GT500 matches/beats that then the ZR1 will remain quicker.

An outright top speed race could be a little closer though maybe.

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

Yeah I know what it's rated at but with a few cars putting down over 600whp that's between 675-700hp depending on what % you use I think 15% seems to be closer based on the mph they trap...IMO

As for a stock ZL1 hitting 200mph sadly it will not unless you mod it but for the guys that plan on modding there cars it won't be to far off.

[QUOTE=gocartone;16364398]You should really get your shit straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.QUOTE]

i dont know about 600 to the wheels i have seen them put down close to it, in the range of 570 to 585 but never over 600

Awww dang I was hoping for a 2013 not that one. I think it will be a much different video with a 700hp 2013 gt500.

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

The 2013 GT500 is rated at 662hp, not 650, and not 700.

The 2013 GT500 is rated at 662hp, not 650, and not 700.

Please reffer to post #23 thanks.

609rwhp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz9Uqg0xbm4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.

Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...

In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.

Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...

Ofc but I'm Sure this isn't the only gt500 that will Dyno a little bit over 600rwhp

In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.

Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...

In what other dynos? I've seen one under-600 dyno so far (that was done in 100+ heat), and a few over.

You should really get your shit straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.




How are you not sure?? The GT500 is trapping 10mph higher than the ZL1, that makes for a major ass kicking in a mile race.

You mad BRO? I really could care less because you clearly are a better bench racer than me. I'm sure in due time there will be a video of them lined up at the track, and in a top speed run.

Ouch.....

You mad BRO? I really could care less because you clearly are a better bench racer than me. I'm sure in due time there will be a video of them lined up at the track, and in a top speed run.

You were just posting something you had no clue about. People don't like that around here :jest:

[QUOTE=gocartone;16364398]You should really get your shit straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.QUOTE]

i dont know about 600 to the wheels i have seen them put down close to it, in the range of 570 to 585 but never over 600

Ive seen three dyno at over 600rwhp. Two at over 585rwhp (hot and humid).
On another note, I too would like to see the 13gt500 vs a newer Z06 (and ZR1 for S&Gs)

the new gt500 is rated at 650, and din't go over 200mph, unlike the ZL1 camaro that did.

the new gt500 is rated at 662, and did 196mph in 100 degree 2,000ft elevation. so, yes it will go over 200. and the zl1 didn't do it stock btw.

Ofc but I'm Sure this isn't the only gt500 that will Dyno a little bit over 600rwhp

In what other dynos? I've seen one under-600 dyno so far (that was done in 100+ heat), and a few over.

I cant remember the name of the company/program that did the testing, but theyd did it at K&N's shop and it was something like 582rwhp.

What I'm trying to get at is the fact that it's not fair to say "700hp" when talking about the 2013 GT500, even if some may be seemingly close on paper.

Also, I believe there has been a lot of speculation in the past of Ford sending out "factory freaks" to the magazines and testers when they release a new model. Maybe there is some merit to that, maybe not, but just food for thought.

Not trying to bash anything or say it's impossible whatsoever, just providing information and thought from the other side of the spectrum.

i think they all do that "factory freak" thing sometimes......

Am I the only one that noticed the zr1 driver never takes his foot off the gas when he shifts? Talk about hardcore.

Am I the only one that noticed the zr1 driver never takes his foot off the gas when he shifts? Talk about hardcore.

TR6060
Is a nice piece of work.

Guy on SVTperf. just ran his 13 GT500 bone-stock in the 1/4 mile to a 11.8x @123mph and with drag radial hit a 11.2x@128.x. 2.0 sixty foot stock and a 1.7 with dr's. This was with a a guy who's known for the "driver mod" too and was in Mississippi, I think (location). So yes this would be a good run for a z06, but a zr1, don't think so.

Am I the only one that noticed the zr1 driver never takes his foot off the gas when he shifts? Talk about hardcore.

Lifting between shifts is for pussies.

Yeah really LOL...it's a good race for a C6 Z06 maybe, but the C6 ZR1 should cover it no problem. Stock versus stock of course.

The quickest bone stock C6 ZR1 has run a best of 10.6@132+mph (quickest bone stock C6 Z06 is 10.9@128+mph) in the 1/4 mile, so until a bone stock 2013 Mustang GT500 matches/beats that then the ZR1 will remain quicker.

An outright top speed race could be a little closer though maybe.

Where are you getting those numbers from? And are they with a stock tire? Not saying that I don't believe you, just would be nice to have proof to quiet the naysayers. :)

In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.

Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...

:thumb: I agree with this statement, dyno numbers are good on paper but alot of factors effect trap speed. The new GT500 is just too damn heavy compared to the ZR1.

Guy on SVTperf. just ran his 13 GT500 bone-stock in the 1/4 mile to a 11.8x @123mph and with drag radial hit a 11.2x@128.x. 2.0 sixty foot stock and a 1.7 with dr's. This was with a a guy who's known for the "driver mod" too and was in Mississippi, I think (location). So yes this would be a good run for a z06, but a zr1, don't think so.

Those trap speeds are not enough to overcome the ZR1. Dyno numbers are nice to show friends though :)