Stereo & Electronics - Remote start viper 5701v install questions
06-01-2012, 09:35 PM
I was wondering what wires I need to run for the t3 wiring harness I have a 95 Camaro a4. I have hooked up the rest of the alarm system and love it. now it's time to install the remote start part and was wondering if someone can walk me through that part.
06-02-2012, 07:07 PM
I assume you mean harness H3, I see no reference to t3 in the install manual. The 95 camaro only has 1 ignition, and 1 accessory, and the starter wire. You hook the H3's Plain Pink to the heavy pink on the column, Orange to orange, Cut the heavy yellow starter wire in half on the column. Connect the green wire to the key side of the yellow wire you cut in half and the purple connects to the other side away from the key side. You have to hook up the the 3 reds or at least 2, red white not needed unless your using the flex relay(pink/white) output for something. The reds hook up to the reds on the column there should be 2, doesn't matter which to which, just hook one to each of the cars. The pink/black and pink/white aren't used for your car. You have to hook up the brake pedal wire, light blue at switch, to the thin brown wire of the viper. On the same harness as the thin brown is a black/white and you have to hook that to ground. Tach is more difficult you might want to try tachless first, if tach needed you have to hook up the purple white of the viper White-V6, red/black-V8. Location is front of left cylinder head for V6 and at a 4 pin plug at the passenger side valve cover for the V8.
The last thing you need to hook up is the VATS bypass. Test your pellet in the key with a ohm meter and read how many ohms it is. Then get a resistor of the same or close value less than 10% different. On the column is a thin flat orange cable, in it are 2 thin white wires. You have to connect the 2 white wires together with a relay and the resistor in series with the connection. Pins 30 and 87 of the relay attach to each of the white thin wires, one of them has to have the resistor connected between it and its white wire. The relay has 2 coil/switch connections 85 and 86. 85 can connect to the red 12v constant wire, 86 connects to the thin blue wire (-) on the 5 pin connector that also has pink, orange, purple, pink/white which aren't used.
Other wires not needed but options are the hood pin input gray wire.
If you hooked up tach wire you have to program tach, start car with key and within 5 seconds hold program switch till LED lights. If LED doesn't light up in a few seconds then somethings wrong with tach hookup. if it lights up then it programmed. you might have to set menu 3 setting 2 to option 4, some modules do it automatically when you program tach, I would double check it's 4.
You also have to change program option Menu 3 option 1 to setting 2 for automatic or else the car wont start because it thinks its a manual transmission and has a special procedure to start for that.
06-02-2012, 08:11 PM
wayneg1035 thanks abunch I just connected the purple and green to the starter and will do the rest of what you said tomorrow. So could you tell me how to program the viper to automatic? Or is it in the owners handbook? Thanks alot again
06-02-2012, 08:44 PM
It's in the book install manual page 60, if you need it I can email it to you. Basically door has to be open, you turn the key on then off then you hold the program button (on the antenna/led module). The siren will chirp once for menu 1, if you keep holding it, it will chirp twice for menu 2 and then 3 times for menu 3. After the 3 chirps release the button and press it once then release then press it again and hold it. You should get 1 chirp for option 1 (of menu 3) and press unlock on the remote. You should here 1 or 2 chirps depending and what it's set at. hit unlock or lock to change the setting to 2 chirps. if you want to do the next option in menu 3 release then program button press it once again and hold it you'll hear 2 chirps for option 2 etc.
06-02-2012, 08:57 PM
Ok kool I will try it tomorrow thanks very much hopefully I can get that part all working tomorrow I will let you know if I have any more questions thanks very much
06-03-2012, 05:25 PM
Well I programed it for automatic and hooked up both reds to a 12 volt source and brake light is hook up and green and purple are hooked up but when I press the remote start I get a buzzing sound and the f l.e.d light is solid then 5seconds later you can here the brain clicking. Would you know what that would be?
06-03-2012, 06:25 PM
doesn't sound familiar. first off where did you hook up the heavy reds. you also don't mention the heavy pink wire. can you figure out what's buzzing? is it in the viper or a relay external. where did you ground the alarms black wire and the black white neutral safety wire. maybe you could take a picture of your connections and post them here
06-03-2012, 06:26 PM
And parking lights flashing 7 times
06-03-2012, 06:31 PM
also how is the vats hooked up is the security light staying on?
06-03-2012, 06:35 PM
I ment the remote buzzes and I have the pink wire connected to the pink ignition wire under the column and I have not grounded the neutral safety switch yet as well as putting the resister on the two white vats wires. I think that could be the cause of nothing happening exept the lights flashing 7 times. I think I need to slow down again lol and quit moving to fast.
06-03-2012, 06:36 PM
Ya i stupidly forgot about the vats I am hooking that up tomorrow when I go to radio shack and get the resistor.
06-03-2012, 06:36 PM
I'll check when I get home in a little while what 7 flashes means.
06-03-2012, 06:37 PM
Mine is a number 14 and is 9.55 ohms
06-03-2012, 06:42 PM
first off 7 flashes means your still in manual transmission mode try programming option 3 -1 again. second you have to ground the white black wire or nothing will work in automatic mode. third if you stick the key in the ignition without turning it, then try remote start it will get around the vats to test it
06-03-2012, 06:46 PM
the options on the 2 choice settings are lock or unlock unlike the 4 options settings where you can toggle thru them by hitting unlock multiple times. so If setting option 3-1 with lock still gives you 7 flashes upon remote start then try programming it again pushing unlock on the remote
06-03-2012, 06:47 PM
I meant black/white neutral wire not white/black 2 posts up
06-03-2012, 06:47 PM
Ok how do u get out of the programing mode when done? It was being real difficult
06-03-2012, 06:51 PM
just turn he ignition on
06-03-2012, 06:57 PM
Ok just grounded the blk/white and soider it to the rest of the grounds.
06-03-2012, 07:04 PM
so as long as you can get 3-1 to be automatic and 3-2 to be tachless if you didn't hook up the purple white. put the key in the ignition and try to remote start it
06-03-2012, 07:12 PM
Ok I will try to program it again do u know how to exit the menu?
And thanks again for the help
06-03-2012, 07:20 PM
Ok I have 3-1 dOne and it starts but does not stay on so would that be the tach next?
06-03-2012, 07:41 PM
yeah if it starts and runs for a few seconds then stops that is usually a tach problem. Did you hook up the purple/white? If yes you have to program that tach signal. Start the car with the key and within 5 seconds hold the program button. The led should light up when it learns. If no light then it's not reading a good tach signal on the purple/white wire.
If your not going to hook up tach make sure program setting 3-2 is set to 1 virtual tach.
Remote Start Shutdown/Startup Diagnostics
Shutdown diagnostics: If the remote start activates but fails to stay running, the remote start module has the
ability to inform you of what may have caused the remote start failure. Before performing shutdown diagnostics
it is important that you let the remote start shut off on its own i.e. let it attempt to start 3 times then shut
down, if this is not done the unit will report the shutdown you used to shut off the remote start.
Note: Shutdown diagnostics does not report if the vehicles factory immobilizer is causing the problem.
To perform shutdown diagnostics:
1. With the ignition Off, press and hold the Control button (on Control Center).
2. Turn the ignition On and then back Off while holding the Control button.
3. Release the Control button.
4. Press and release the Control button. The status LED flashes to report the last shutdown for one minute or
until the ignition is turned on, as shown in the following table:
Status LED Flashes Shutdown Mode
1 flash Runtime expired
2 flashes Over-rev shutdown
3 flashes Low or no RPM
4 flashes Transmitter shutdown (or optional push button)
5 flashes (+) Brake shutdown
6 flashes (-) Hood shutdown
7 flashes Timer mode/Turbo mode/Manual mode error *
8 flashes Neutral safety shutdown
9 flashes Low battery (voltage mode)
10 flashes Alarm triggered **
11 flashes Wait-to-start input timed out
* Timer mode error: Ignition is on or shutdown input is active when activating timer mode.
Turbo mode error: Turbo mode is programmed off, engine is not on or shutdown input is active.
Manual mode error: MTS mode not enabled.
** Alarm was triggered during remote start sequence.
Startup Diagnostics: If the vehicle fails to activate the remote start, the remote start module will notify you via
your Responder HD 2-way remote control and will flash the parking lights on the vehicle to notify you of what
caused the no-start situation.
Parking Light Flashes
5 flashes Brake wire is active
6 flashes Hood pin wire is active
7 flashes Manual transmission mode is enabled and not initialized.
8 flashes Neutral safety wire has no ground or the neutral safety switch is Off.
06-03-2012, 07:54 PM
It starts and runs now after deleting the tach now I will bypass the vats tomorrow to finsh up the remote start so I don't need a key to start it. And thanks again for taking the time for a walkthrough with me.
06-03-2012, 07:55 PM
no problem, glad it's almost done
06-03-2012, 08:04 PM
your reading of 9.55 should be 9.55K ohms you might not find that at RS but you could probably use a 10K.
06-03-2012, 08:04 PM
or series 2 x 4.7K resistors
06-03-2012, 08:14 PM
Well there one one resiter on a relay I pulled out that was 4.70 ohms would that work or do I need two of them?
06-03-2012, 08:28 PM
you would need 2 and it would be 4.7K (4700) ohms not 4.7 ohms . I would test the key again and make sure of its value. Put the leads on each side of the key making sure only touch the metal part of the pellet on each side. Make sure your fingers aren't touching the metal part of the leads. Look for a K on the display or not. Then you can put the resistor on the meter and make sure you get a similar value within 5-10% should work.
If the key was 9.55K (9550) ohms then 2 - 4.7K in series would read 9.4K (9400) ohms and that would be close enough.
by the way the smallest value of the vats system is 392 ohms, so check your key again
06-05-2012, 03:05 PM
Ok I bought 2 4.7k ohms resisters and with them in a series meter reads 9.28k ohms is that close enough? And were is the easiest place to get to the hvac orange line?
06-05-2012, 05:26 PM
The orange accessory wire should be to the right of the drivers kick panel. What does your key test again? 9.28K should be close enough if your key is 9.5K