What is it Worth? - Broken 04 V, what's it worth?

Car has about 105k on the clock, and it does have an R-Title from an accident that happened like 5 years ago. The car is black, with black windows, wheels, interior. The interior has the typical peeling buttons.

Here's what the car has:

Noisy engine
PRC Stage 2.5 heads
TSP MS3 cam with 112 LSA
LS7 Lifters
Comp Pushrods
Pisnuoff custom short shifter
brass shifter bushings
freshly rebuilt T56
LS7 clutch (with slave, flywheel, remote bleeder)
clear fog lights
HID fog lights
HID high beams
OBX headers, catless connectors, stock exhaust with magnaflow x-pipe, mufflers, and tips

the car in the condition is in pretty decent shape, but there are some flaws, as there are with most 8-9 year old cars. a few door dings here and there, but it still absolutely turns heads, as do most V's.

The metal part of the grille is powder coated, and the plastic is plasti dipped.

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Mileage and rebuilt title... I'd shoot for $13k. Take less if someone has a decent offer but I've seen a few rebuilt title V's around here and people still want $14-$16 for em. I'm saying $13 because of the motor issue but somewhere between that and $11k (high/low pricing) is what I'd expect. No less than $11k considering the extras...

What exactly is broken? You say noisy, but what does that mean?

looking at the mods. I think a noisy valvetrain is what your hearing. It would take a video to actually figure the noise out, but other than that I'd shoot for 15k even. People say you dont get money for your mods, but there are people out there that are looking for car's that are built so they don't have to take the loss

http://youtu.be/I5VfzcXwi_Y

I'm thinking of either stock ls6/ls2 rebuild, or a 408 or 383 stroker, depending on what comes up. I'm really in no rush.

I bought the car with the R title when I made considerably less money (about 1/3rd of what I make now), and as gay as it sounds, I've sort of bonded with the car. I've learned so much about working on cars, made some cool friends/acquaintances, put blood sweat and tears into it. Before the rod bearing, I was thinking about getting the car painted (the drivers side has fresh paint from an accident, and the passenger side is a little faded in comparison.)

I'm leaning towards fixing it... what do you guys think? I have a loose budget, but nothing set in stone. If I could keep it under 1,500 for a stock LS2/LS6 rebuild, then I'll do that, and I'm thinking 3,500 to 4,000 MAXIMUM on the 383/408 stroker INCLUDING injectors, which seems mildly unrealistic, but I can always pray.

105,000 miles, salvage title and a spun bearing you would be lucky to get 10k. (Look on ebay)
Unfortunately, your blood,sweat and tears aint worth nothing and all those little things
like shifter bushings and fog light bulbs don't add any value whatsoever

trade for tinted fogs and beer?

If someone gave me 10k, I'd honestly probably bite.

put it out on the autotraders and craigslists.

A shop might be interested.

Id love to swap fog lights.

Thompson Motorsports will easily get you a forged short block in your budget.. Or Kyle offers many stock rebuilds, rebuilds with stock rods/forged pistons and everything else inbetween.

PM coming your way.

Sell me the heads!!

wow that's a great idea punishment cycle. that way when i rebuild it, i won't have heads, and if i sell it, i won't have heads.

FWIW there was an 04 Platinum V with 90k miles & pretty much the same shape only with a rod through the block listed on CL not too long ago...they wanted $12k. It was bone stock.

10 is absurd bro they have a wrecked v on ebay thats already at 9gs. Wouldn't even bother selling for less than 12

As a buyer at a dealership. Salvage title automatically cuts the cars worth in half. Start there and work backwards with mileage and other problems the car has.

I'm not sure its immediately cut in half, although I know its cut substantially. The engine mods alone were about 3k, there's also umi motor mounts and an slp 25 percent underdrive pulley. I know they don't count for much on resale, though.

Anyone know what it entails to install this setup on an ls2 block? and if it'll just work with my 04?

As long as all the parts are good you would just pull the motor, swap all accessories/sensors/etc needed along with the cam and top end and put the new motor back in.

The blocks are the same respectively... Unless there is something different on the Vs that would make the swap differently, someone chime in if so.

I'm not sure its immediately cut in half, although I know its cut substantially. The engine mods alone were about 3k, there's also umi motor mounts and an slp 25 percent underdrive pulley. I know they don't count for much on resale, though.

Anyone know what it entails to install this setup on an ls2 block? and if it'll just work with my 04?

I have worked for 2 dealers as a buyer. Both automatically cut value in half for salvage.

If you are a smart person, and plan on buying this type of vehicle, and ever want to trade it in at a dealership for another car, this will be the rule. Trust me. Salvage titles are nothing to underestimate and most dealers are not even allowed to sell them other than at a auction environment.

Hrmm. I might be interested....

dont listen to kciaccio, its the dealers job to rip you off on trade in/buying your car
id list it for 13. if you think about it there are regular cts with rebuilt titles being sold for 12k

dont listen to kciaccio, its the dealers job to rip you off on trade in/buying your car
id list it for 13. if you think about it there are regular cts with rebuilt titles being sold for 12k

Whatever dude...You go buy a salvage car and put your kids in it.

And by the way, what people are trying to get and what they really get are two different things. There are plenty of people who sell their car right out to us because they know they have a piece of shit or have tried and failed on ebay and craigslist.

Just trying to warn other idiots who are thinking about buying a salvage title car and what they are in for.

Only a real idiot would pay 12k for a salvage cts in my opinion.

Salvage title cars are good for two things, parts cars and track only stripped down cars.

and thats not true about half price the value lost according to when I totaled it was...I got 13300 due to prior salvage history and it was apraised at 18200. In all honesty about 30 pecent is whats lost. Also if you have insurance run the damn thing into a wall, but you didn't hear that from me... And the one on ebay is wrecked with a salvage history over 9 now so... Remember its what people are willing to pay, they are not buying it to resell it like a dealership to make bank, they are the ones putting that extra 20% in their pocket hense the half value remark earlier

Whatever dude...You go buy a salvage car and put your kids in it.

And by the way, what people are trying to get and what they really get are two different things. There are plenty of people who sell their car right out to us because they know they have a piece of shit or have tried and failed on ebay and craigslist.

Just trying to warn other idiots who are thinking about buying a salvage title car and what they are in for.

Only a real idiot would pay 12k for a salvage cts in my opinion.

Salvage title cars are good for two things, parts cars and track only stripped down cars.

and theft as well as hail damage automatically go salvage just an fyi, making them just as safe as any other car on the road...but you work at a dealership what do i know

How is a rebuilt car automatically a piece of shit? That's funny. My car is somewhat similar to the one in question. I bought it over 4 years ago with an R title and 76,000 miles for $18k (this was when they were still going for close to $30k). 40k miles and 30ish track days later, and I've yet to really have any problems related to the reason the car was totalled in the first place. That said, I wouldn't really expect to get any more than $11-12k for it. Best bet would to be to pick up a decent used motor somewhere, swap that in and part out your car. Just my thought though.

Thompson Motorsports will easily get you a forged short block in your budget.. Or Kyle offers many stock rebuilds, rebuilds with stock rods/forged pistons and everything else inbetween.

PM coming your way.

I was hoping to talk to someone with experience with TMS... PM me if you have any info. I'm hoping for an LS3 swap this winter.

and thats not true about half price the value lost according to when I totaled it was...I got 13300 due to prior salvage history and it was apraised at 18200. In all honesty about 30 pecent is whats lost. Also if you have insurance run the damn thing into a wall, but you didn't hear that from me... And the one on ebay is wrecked with a salvage history over 9 now so... Remember its what people are willing to pay, they are not buying it to resell it like a dealership to make bank, they are the ones putting that extra 20% in their pocket hense the half value remark earlier

The two dealers I worked for didn't look to make bank. They cannot even retail them.
We send them to auction. Not to "Make Bank". We leave that to the buy here pay here lots who would buy them at auction and let them sell it to idiots with bad credit and sense to buy these.

We are not interested in selling those kinds of cars at our dealership.

The only thing you have right is you got a good chance at suckering someone who does not know the difference between a blue title and a salvage title.

They will however will get a sobering experience when they walk into a dealership with that title in hand and get a trade in offer. Most poor schmucks I have delivered this news too had no idea what a salvage title meant.

Plus try to finance a salvage title car. That's right you can't. For a reason.

How is a rebuilt car automatically a piece of shit? That's funny. My car is somewhat similar to the one in question. I bought it over 4 years ago with an R title and 76,000 miles for $18k (this was when they were still going for close to $30k). 40k miles and 30ish track days later, and I've yet to really have any problems related to the reason the car was totalled in the first place. That said, I wouldn't really expect to get any more than $11-12k for it. Best bet would to be to pick up a decent used motor somewhere, swap that in and part out your car. Just my thought though.

18k retail sounds pretty close to 1/2 of 30k like I said earlier.

Not all cars are totaled the same way.
Depends on insurance company. With that said, I have seen some pretty fucked up cars requiring 15k in repairs that they would not total. If I bought a 2012 and someone hit me requiring 12k in repairs and the insurance company did not total it out I would be pissed and sue them for at least diminished value and then sell it.

Cars that are totaled due to flooding might appear fine at first but corrosion in areas where water should never had gone will catch up to it eventually.

Thats why I never finance, not stupid enough to pay extra money to idiots trying to make money off my purchase. Have bought every car straight up since I was 16...never get myself into buying things I can't afford unlike most people in this country... If I have a g in my pocket thats the car I will buy for a g not a penny more thats why any time I see a great deal at a salvage I jump on it, broken windshield and sunroof, theft, hail damage. And the title never says salvage it will say rebuilt weather its hail or a total front end.

I was hoping to talk to someone with experience with TMS... PM me if you have any info. I'm hoping for an LS3 swap this winter.

Still dont understand why people bother spending money on an ls3 swap when for a few extra thousand the ls7 is out there with much greater potential all around. But then again I don't have the cash for even the ls3 at this point so i admire your effort and love your car

Thats why I never finance, not stupid enough to pay extra money to idiots trying to make money off my purchase. Have bought every car straight up since I was 16...never get myself into buying things I can't afford unlike most people in this country... If I have a g in my pocket thats the car I will buy for a g not a penny more thats why any time I see a great deal at a salvage I jump on it, broken windshield and sunroof, theft, hail damage. And the title never says salvage it will say rebuilt weather its hail or a total front end.

That's the thing isn't it? You don't know which of the two it is unless you know what to look for or have access to the insurance data base.

Bottom line is most people looking at buying a car will not even consider buying a salvage/rebuilt title. So when you are looking to sell it, your pool of possible buyers are very small hence it's limited value.

That's the thing isn't it? You don't know which of the two it is unless you know what to look for or have access to the insurance data base.

Bottom line is most people looking at buying a car will not even consider buying a salvage/rebuilt title. So when you are looking to sell it, your pool of possible buyers are very small hence it's limited value.

I agree they are harder to sell but there will always be someone looking for a bargain

I agree they are harder to sell but there will always be someone looking for a bargain

This is true, but do you think 12k for a 8 year old "v" with a fucked up engine, over 100k and a branded title is a good bargain?

You guys forget there are plenty of cars the have been rebuilt with a clean title just because some guy had no issuance wrecked it and sold it cheap it was fixed and sold with a clean title which is worse then any rebuilt title car out there.

and theft as well as hail damage automatically go salvage just an fyi, making them just as safe as any other car on the road...but you work at a dealership what do i know

Not always. I have seen plenty of hail damaged repaired without it being totaled. Your statement is only true to a brand new car never titled. Second, insurance companies don't pay on stolen cars for 30 days. If the car is found within that time frame and is repairable, it is and is not branded. NEXT

You know a clean title really means nothing...... Other than nothing has been reported to insurance to deem it totalled. A guy could crash the car destroy it and repair it on his dime and it would still be a clean title.

You guys forget there are plenty of cars the have been rebuilt with a clean title just because some guy had no issuance wrecked it and sold it cheap it was fixed and sold with a clean title which is worse then any rebuilt title car out there.

This is true, that's why they have people like me at dealerships.

Thats why I never finance, not stupid enough to pay extra money to idiots trying to make money off my purchase. Have bought every car straight up since I was 16...never get myself into buying things I can't afford unlike most people in this country... If I have a g in my pocket thats the car I will buy for a g not a penny more thats why any time I see a great deal at a salvage I jump on it, broken windshield and sunroof, theft, hail damage. And the title never says salvage it will say rebuilt weather its hail or a total front end.

I agree with you to a point.

Most of my cars have been cash cars.

There are plenty of smart people with cash on hand that still finance cars for good reasons. Some being 0% financing on some cars. Some lease in their companies name and use as a tax write off.

If you have good credit, and I don't mean a 800 score just low 700's will get you 2.5 to 3.5% financing on a used car, lets say your money is making you 6%. Then why pull it to avoid 2.5 to 3.5% interest.

Lets say your wife has fairly long commute to work in heavy traffic, do you want her to drive some 3k piece of shit that will eventually break down on the highway? Possible with your kids in the car?

I will pay the 0 to 3.5% to make sure she is driving something nice and can afford to make payments on. JMO.

Agreed with above. It also helps to build credit for those who have little or no history. I don't mind paying a little toward the financier to have a nicer car than I could have afforded that year and while building my credit for future endeavors such as property or business loans. Also paying more per month than requires helps to keep that cost down if you have it go toward your principle.

Agreed with above. It also helps to build credit for those who have little or no history. I don't mind paying a little toward the financier to have a nicer car than I could have afforded that year and while building my credit for future endeavors such as property or business loans. Also paying more per month than requires helps to keep that cost down if you have it go toward your principle.

More good points on why financing can be ok. :cheers:


I find it funny when people bitch and moan about paying some interest. They are providing a service just like somebody who sells you 2k shocks. They are allowing you to take an a pretty expensive asset from somebody and let you do with it however you want and risk you following through on paying them back over a course of years.

If you are paying a lot for this service you only have yourself to blame, because with good credit those rates are more than reasonable. If you don't think so, maybe you should give 30k to someone you don't know and get only a 2.5% to 3.5% return on that money as they are paying you back in small monthly payment.

I'd say 10 tops as well. Salvage title and body mileage with a bad bottom end are about as bad as you can get lol

The reason I started this argument is the fact that dealers buy a crap load of cars at Manheim auto auction every thursday and friday, which happens to be 5 minutes from my house as well as be the biggest dealer auction in the US. I have personally purchased over a dozen cars there and returned 4 of them within 48 hours because they had all sorts of issues you would only realize once you drive them a good bit. Also a bunch of them have had body work done to fenders, doors, and q-panels yet somehow they all have a clean title. Clean or salvage its about what has happened to the car in its history not about the title. All these dealers are buying these cars and pawning them off with a clean title to people. If a car was in an accident and nothing was ever reported( as in the owner fixed it under the table) there won't be a history report at all of that incident for any car buyer or dealer for that matter. Getting back to the main point, I agree with all regarding resale value being an issue, but you also have to realize you are buying it for a fraction to begin with; however, I totally disagree about your safety remark when it comes to salvage vehicles.

just to prove my point how's that for a clean title http://www.copart.com/c2/homeSearch.html?_eventId=getLot&execution=e2s1&lotId=17340292&returnPage=SEARCH_RESULTS

just to prove my point how's that for a clean title http://www.copart.com/c2/homeSearch.html?_eventId=getLot&execution=e2s1&lotId=17340292&returnPage=SEARCH_RESULTS

Ok, and this is what autocheck says on this car.

2/15/2011 MI
State Agency FRONT IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:8228630)
12/15/2011 MI
Police Report ACCIDENT REPORTED (Case #:110110716)
12/15/2011 MI
State Agency AIR BAG DEPLOYED
MODERATE TO SEVERE DAMAGE REPORTED



At MOST dealerships these reports are shared with the customer. Ours actually has it listed with EVERY car we sell.



Now Carfax

12/15/2011 Michigan
Damage Report Accident reported
Involving front impact
It hit another motor vehicle
Moderate to Severe damage reported
Vehicle towed
Airbag deployed
CARFAX Airbag Tips

Would you buy it?



AND it will have a salvage title once someone buys it from Coparts which is a salvage company.
http://www.salvage-cars-for-sale.info/salvage/for-sale-cadillac-cts-2011-MTczNDAyOTI



So your argument is completely wrong.

wow that's a great idea punishment cycle. that way when i rebuild it, i won't have heads, and if i sell it, i won't have heads.

No need for sarcasm.. I do have my stock heads that were just freshened up that I would have worked in the deal. Don't be a dick

We were talking clean vs dirty don't change the argument. My point was that every clean car may have a hidden past such as this one, not weather I would buy it, but yeah some tool would buy that with a clean title vs radians with a dirty one which may have had a less severe history. So going back to your unsafe comment not all your clean titles are very safe as well, unless you are the original owner dealerships can blow smoke up peoples a$$ all day. So don't call salvage vehicles unsafe unless you have a history for that vehicle to back it up. And yeah I would still buy a hail damage total with a salvage history vs this crap with a clean title and feel much safer driving my vehicle with a few paint flaws then someone else who buys this car and throws their clean title around in my face. That was my arguement

We were talking clean vs dirty don't change the argument. My point was that every clean car may have a hidden past such as this one, not weather I would buy it, but yeah some tool would buy that with a clean title vs radians with a dirty one which may have had a less severe history. So going back to your unsafe comment not all your clean titles are very safe as well, unless you are the original owner dealerships can blow smoke up peoples a$$ all day. So don't call salvage vehicles unsafe unless you have a history for that vehicle to back it up. And yeah I would still buy a hail damage total with a salvage history vs this crap with a clean title and feel much safer driving my vehicle with a few paint flaws then someone else who buys this car and throws their clean title around in my face. That was my arguement

It is not going to have a clean title. Coparts is a salvage company. Once it gets in their hands on it is in a salvage data base and Coparts is required to issue a salvage title to whoever buys that car you are parading here.

who cares ..if its salvage and you dont want it ,dont buy it.. arguing about it is pointless. some people who are mechanically incline can tell if a car is all there and save some money. others who are not should of course buy a certified car.

just because a car was in a wreck doesnt mean its junk..thats why body shops are in business..besides 80% of all cars on the road have had some sort of accident. its life, shit happens ,move on!

I wouldn't get pricing advice from anybody that works for a dealership, no offense kciaccio but the private party market is a completely different ball game (I worked at a dealership for three years before I started wholesaling auction cars on my own). List it for $13k on craigslist, e-bay and all the autotrader sites you can think of. Give it 2 weeks, no bites then drop it $1,000. If you aren't in a hurry to sell then just keep doing that until you hit a price that someone bites. There is always someone out there willing to bite if you are patient.

I've sold cars FOR $3,500 that dealers offered me $900 on trade. Dealers quote what they can get back at auction, they aren't interested in selling damaged cars they just auction them off to guys like me immediately. I then buy it for their "half price", mark it up and resell on the private market for a profit. Dealerships have high overhead and commissions to cover as well as they don't want to deal with customers who buy a damaged car and come back with complaints and warranty claims, hence the small markup isn't a good return on investment.

If it were me I would sell and move up to a car without a salvage title, best return on your investment. Any more money you put in the car is going to just be throwing it down the drain. But that $4k towards a newer car and then start saving for modding the new car! At least you retain some value that way.

If it were me I would sell and move up to a car without a salvage title, best return on your investment. Any more money you put in the car is going to just be throwing it down the drain. But that $4k towards a newer car and then start saving for modding the new car! At least you retain some value that way.

Strange advice for someone who likes salvaged titled cars.

I wouldn't get pricing advice from anybody that works for a dealership, no offense kciaccio

Ya, what do I know? I only get paid 100k year to buy cars using wholesale data the common person cannot see, you are right.

My point was to give people who have no experience at what value a salvage title really has. If you are just a hands on gear head who plans on just driving the piss out of the car, than those types are cars are for you.

To me having to pay 12k cash for an 04 v with salvage title a motor knock is a foolish investment of 12k.

I have to deliver the bad news to these people, when they come in with a rebuilt title that people like you bamboozle into buying which are usually kids and minorities.

If it were me I would sell and move up to a car without a salvage title, best return on your investment. Any more money you put in the car is going to just be throwing it down the drain. But that $4k towards a newer car and then start saving for modding the new car! At least you retain some value that way.

Strange advice for someone who likes salvaged titled cars.

I wouldn't get pricing advice from anybody that works for a dealership, no offense kciaccio

Ya, what do I know? I only get paid 100k year to buy cars using wholesale data the common person cannot see, you are right.

My point was to give people who have no experience at what value a salvage title really has. If you are just a hands on gear head who plans on just driving the piss out of the car, than those types are cars are for you.

To me having to pay 12k cash for an 04 v with salvage title a motor knock is a foolish investment of 12k.

I have to deliver the bad news to these people, when they come in with a rebuilt title that people like you bamboozle into buying which are usually kids and minorities.

Bamboozle LMFAO. And this comes from a dealers mouth.. Righttttt. Nobody cares what u make or do for a living.. Since u started posting to the OP you have been down right disrespectful just because the guy is trying to sell a salvage car.. DEALERS are the real crooks!! And the reason u make ur money. Tht my friend I know from experience so like I said MOVE ON

Bamboozle LMFAO. And this comes from a dealers mouth.. Righttttt. Nobody cares what u make or do for a living.. Since u started posting to the OP you have been down right disrespectful just because the guy is trying to sell a salvage car.. DEALERS are the real crooks!! And the reason u make ur money. Tht my friend I know from experience so like I said MOVE ON

I have made my point.

Why are you so defensive about me educating people on how REAL dealerships will react when someone brings in a salvage title. Just because a few of you have flipped a couple cars does not make you pros. Not everybody here knows most dealerships cannot resell them retail and are forced just to auction them to dealers who can, which by the way is a very small percentage.

Plus try to finance a salvage title car. That's right you can't. For a reason.

I did. Bank didn't care and neither did my insurance company.

I just get iritated at people that deem a salvage unsafe. If it has frame damage or suspension/drive terrain maybe, and even thats debatable granted on who fixed it. Other than that they are just like every car on the road that has been patched up. Unless you are the original owner noone trully knows what they are buying based on carfax or other reports.

I just get iritated at people that deem a salvage unsafe.

I will give you that. Some people will do things just to get out of a car. I heard stories of people pouring water inside their car and then making a flood claim. Like someone mentioned hail damage on a brand new car. Theft and recovered after 30 days when the insurance company paid out already.

But on the flip side, if the car is only a year or two old and has accident on the report...that is serious. Insurance companies in general will not total a car like that out unless repairs exceed 50% of the cars value. If you have a 30k car they will put 15k in repairs before totaling it. That is a salvage car I would not touch with a ten foot pole.

I have also appraised cars that have been cut and half and two cars welded together. I have only ran across this a couple times but they are out there.

Interesting story

http://www.kgw.com/news/consumer/Beware-of-salvage-car-titles-120909699.html

Whatever dude...You go buy a salvage car and put your kids in it.

And by the way, what people are trying to get and what they really get are two different things. There are plenty of people who sell their car right out to us because they know they have a piece of shit or have tried and failed on ebay and craigslist.

Just trying to warn other idiots who are thinking about buying a salvage title car and what they are in for.

Only a real idiot would pay 12k for a salvage cts in my opinion.

Salvage title cars are good for two things, parts cars and track only stripped down cars.

i bought a salvage car recently from these guys
i did not have time to deal with transportation so they arranged it for me fast

http://www.easyexport.us/

it was quite good experience
i repaired it and sold for cash

I have also appraised cars that have been cut and half and two cars welded together. I have only ran across this a couple times but they are out there.


Sounds like a recent project on the forum...

Sounds like a recent project on the forum...

lol, I think I know the one you are talking about..

One of the ones I remember doing was a Dodge Neon. Seems like a lot of work for such a piece of shit. lol

Imagine putting your wife and kids in that? yikes...

I have made my point.

Why are you so defensive about me educating people on how REAL dealerships will react when someone brings in a salvage title. Just because a few of you have flipped a couple cars does not make you pros. Not everybody here knows most dealerships cannot resell them retail and are forced just to auction them to dealers who can, which by the way is a very small percentage.

i got defensive because you were ripping this guy pretty bad for just trying to sell the car. there are always crooks and conn men out there, alot more than honest people!

i got defensive because you were ripping this guy pretty bad for just trying to sell the car. there are always crooks and conn men out there, alot more than honest people!

True enough. I apologize that I came across that way.

I feel bad about that and the situation he is in with that car.

I guess I have been jaded on salvage titles. I have just met to many customers who claim to have no clue they were sold a salvage title.

They did not read the paperwork they were signing when purchasing the car.

They received their title months later and never looked at it or know the difference even if they did.

It's just sad.

True enough. I apologize that I came across that way.

I feel bad about that and the situation he is in with that car.

I guess I have been jaded on salvage titles. I have just met to many customers who claim to have no clue they were sold a salvage title.

They did not read the paperwork they were signing when purchasing the car.

They received their title months later and never looked at it or know the difference even if they did.

It's just sad.

it takes a man to apoligize, especially on the net.. so you sir are a stand up guy in my book.
it is sad, seems now a days nobody wants to work for a living...they either collect from the tax payers or scam people out of their money. this world is getting more ruthless everyday

it takes a man to apoligize, especially on the net.. so you sir are a stand up guy in my book.
it is sad, seems now a days nobody wants to work for a living...they either collect from the tax payers or scam people out of their money. this world is getting more ruthless everyday

:cheers:

And if any you guys need a Autocheck or Carfax on something . Let me know.

it is sad, seems now a days nobody wants to work for a living...they either collect from the tax payers or scam people out of their money. this world is getting more ruthless everyday

love this world!

kciaccio. I have worked at dealerships for 30 years and most peeps have no clue about how things are when it comes to cars, Buying, selling or repairs. They just think we are thieves becuase they dont have a clue. I have tried to give peeps advice on here too, but they just want to argue and think they know it all. Dont waste your time.

Thanks man, maybe you are right. It was worth a try..

At least I got to give a member a Carfax for his car today because of this thread. At least I helped someone out.

I feel bad about that and the situation he is in with that car.


thanks boo.

a little update (while you guys were raging, i was working)


start:

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ended up doing my pillars black in the mean time, as a side project to get me to calm down from the frustration of pulling my engine (which was early and often)

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after a few minutes of wrestling, i ended up with this:

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little mark on the valve, not sure if it was from pulling it off, or what... didn't look like anything happened to the piston at all on the spot, also the valve still seals (at least visibly), and didn't look bent.


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this was in my oil pan, but no connecting rods seem loose. got tired and gave up for the night and will continue later this week. i still need to pull the harmonic balancer and get the timing cover off to inspect the cam, but from peeking in the lifter holes, it all looks fine, as did the lifters.

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there's what i was going to/am going to buy assuming my block is FUBAR, although I was going to swap out the Moly rings for stock, and get forged pistons.

Working hard I see...Not too bad.