Street Racing & Kill Stories - GTR vs ZL1

http://youtu.be/qRNYTOs_ll0


DA 1600ft
ZL1 was a stick.
Slips:
-----GTR----ZL1
RT--.292----.445
60'--1.771---2.238
1/8--7.028---8.585
MPH-104.94--87.33
1/4--10.762--12.988
MPH-131.93--112.81


Yep.

2 Steps to winning:

1) Sell ZL1
2) Buy some driving lessons.

2 Steps to winning:

1) Sell ZL1
2) Buy some driving lessons.

Haha! He could just give it to me and let me drive it for him.

pro 112 trap.

Must be el mero driving.

So stock GTR's run 132mph traps in 1600 DA now???

This is clearly a modded GTR vs a Bone stock ZL1 shifting at 4000rpms.

Why was this even posted?

Why was this even posted?

Probably owned a Mach1 at one point in his life.



Bad drivers and/or bad passes happen.

17.5@93MPH in a supercharged Ford? I guess we can assume they all run that slow :gruffy:

http://youtu.be/92_6jIEiD98

So stock GTR's run 132mph traps in 1600 DA now???

This is clearly a modded GTR vs a Bone stock ZL1 shifting at 4000rpms.

Why was this even posted?

Why didnt your mom swallow? Like your question, we will never know. Who said anything was stock?

Probably owned a Mach1 at one point in his life.



Bad drivers and/or bad passes happen.

17.5@93MPH in a supercharged Ford? I guess we can assume they all run that slow :gruffy:

http://youtu.be/92_6jIEiD98

Howd you know... ??

Why didnt your mom swallow? Like your question, we will never know. Who said anything was stock?

This was a completely pointless post. There was nothing particularly interesting about this race. A modified 90k+ car that drives itself outruns a stock 60k car with an 8 year old at the wheel.

I.spanked a 2013 GTR I gave a car and half head start and the hit..stock GTR do not trap 131.

So stock GTR's run 132mph traps in 1600 DA now???

This is clearly a modded GTR vs a Bone stock ZL1 shifting at 4000rpms.

Why was this even posted?

Damn dude your good if you can tell the exact rpm hes shifting at.

FWIW there were 2 ZL1's with two different drivers that night and they both trapped 110-112. The car is a dog, especially in bad Da.

I.spanked a 2013 GTR I gave a car and half head start and the hit..stock GTR do not trap 131.

word. they come out hard because of their training wheels but then fall on their face.. compared to other comparable comparisons.

Damn dude your good if you can tell the exact rpm hes shifting at.

FWIW there were 2 ZL1's with two different drivers that night and they both trapped 110-112. The car is a dog, especially in bad Da.

i'm starting to think that too. the best they have trapped is 116-117 in a negative DA. very disappointed. i was expecting a 120 mph car.

there was a zl1 at irp a couple weeks ago. it was trapping 112ish, as well. da wasn't bad for this area, maybe 1k' or so.

i'm starting to think that too. the best they have trapped is 116-117 in a negative DA. very disappointed. i was expecting a 120 mph car.

I think everyone was thinking the exact same thing. My car with 470rwhp was trapping 121mph and running 11s (granted I had DRs). The weight is REALLY killing this car! I had seriously hoped to see this one at least run high 11s. Hopefully the next platform changes this.

This was a completely pointless post. There was nothing particularly interesting about this race. A modified 90k+ car that drives itself outruns a stock 60k car with an 8 year old at the wheel.

The point is the car needs to weigh MUCH less than it does. The weight and major heat soak issues it has is killing it going around the track, as already shown from owners posting disappointing times at Buttonwillow. We sure as hell know it kills it at the strip.

so high 12s from a stock vehicle with a poor driver is a bad thing?

you guys crack me up :shiner:

Probably owned a Mach1 at one point in his life.



Bad drivers and/or bad passes happen.

17.5@93MPH in a supercharged Ford? I guess we can assume they all run that slow :gruffy:

http://youtu.be/92_6jIEiD98

:funny:Sad part for the ZL1 is that even my bolt-on MACH would have slapped around that ZL1 with those times...So I would kill the MACH comments.

so high 12s from a stock vehicle with a poor driver is a bad thing?

For 54k+ yes, that sucks.

I still don't see how they are running so bad when I've seen quite a few CTS-V2's running low-mid 12's at 117-119mph :huh:

I would actually like to see a ZL1 with just a tune, to see how much it responds to that.. The car is a pig and it is tuned to road race more than drag race. Sucks, GM went with that decision but oh well, mod and tune that thing and then see how it wakes up, if any. It should make a big difference, IMO.

man. idk what to say bout those cars. ehhh, thats not very good

I would actually like to see a ZL1 with just a tune, to see how much it responds to that.. The car is a pig and it is tuned to road race more than drag race. Sucks, GM went with that decision but oh well, mod and tune that thing and then see how it wakes up, if any. It should make a big difference, IMO.

they respond huge to mods. but stock they're slow.

:funny:Sad part for the ZL1 is that even my bolt-on MACH would have slapped around that ZL1 with those times...So I would kill the MACH comments.

Of course you would...

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt11/pinchnloaf/mach1-1.gif

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt11/pinchnloaf/mach1-2.jpg

:angel:

I.spanked a 2013 GTR I gave a car and half head start and the hit..stock GTR do not trap 131.

local STOCK GTR ran 11.1@121. This was with an excellent driver.

local STOCK GTR ran 11.1@121. This was with an excellent driver.



you mean the car itself?

you mean the car itself?

don't understand your question.

don't understand your question.

gtr's don't need a good driver. oprah winfrey could pilot one to a low 11 sec pass.

I still don't see how they are running so bad when I've seen quite a few CTS-V2's running low-mid 12's at 117-119mph :huh:

I've seen some 530+ rwhp CTS-V's running high 12's/low 13's with terrible trap speeds. I'm not saying that the V's aren't impressive or that the ZL1's aren't unimpressive in stock form, but people seem to look for the good running V's and the poorly running ZL1's.

How commonly are they only trapping 112?

Now I'm curious to know if my bolt on clowbra can take one.:P

Of course you would...





:angel:

12.98 ET?...Nuf said.

Unlike you, I do realize that this is just a bad run for the ZL1 though and man enough to admit that a properly driven ZL1 would probably be a full second faster and trap about 5mph higher. I can give respect to other cars reagrdless of make...could you?

12.98 ET?...Nuf said.

Unlike you, I do realize that this is just a bad run for the ZL1 though and man enough to admit that a properly driven ZL1 would probably be a full second faster and trap about 5mph higher. I can give respect to other cars reagrdless of make...could you?

Thank you. If people honestly think this is even a reasonable attempt at a quarter mile from the ZL1 they are mistaken. If this were the case, "bone stock" LS1 fbodies would be raping ZL1's. Base GT's with an H-pipe would be putting bus lengths on them. That's just not the case. Once everyone found out it was slower than the 2013 GT500, the cars "average" ET and MPH has been dropping by the day.

Pretty soon, these cars will be low 13 second cars and mid 12 second cars with a pro driver in negative DA.

I friend of mine got the first (and only) ZL1 in our area a few weeks ago. A trip to the track in what will more than likely be well over 3000 DA is coming up in the next week or two. I will let you know how it runs. It's an Auto BTW.

they have ran low 12 passes including a 12.02. but it's the trap speed that's lacking. 117 is the highest i've seen.

I'm sure they SHOULD NOT for any reason be trapping 112 unless they are running up in the mountains, BUT 116-117 mph traps are not in any way impressive. It's a heavy pig with 500hp... The z06 makes about the same power and weighs 1,000 lbs less

Milan dragway the ZL1 both auto and manual have run 11's stock. High 11's but still 11's.

12.98 ET?...Nuf said.

Unlike you, I do realize that this is just a bad run for the ZL1 though and man enough to admit that a properly driven ZL1 would probably be a full second faster and trap about 5mph higher. I can give respect to other cars reagrdless of make...could you?

Respect? Don't take the internet so seriously, we're just busting balls. Shit I drive a mullet mobile from the 80's that ran 15's stock!

BTW, I agree, I was expecting the ZL1 to be significantly faster than the CTSV's

Well the ZL1 is alot faster then the cts-v due to the third gen mag shocks on it, to the tune of 20 sec at the ring or something.

in a straight line no it isnt much quicker.

they respond huge to mods. but stock they're slow.

tune and intake trapped 121. There is one on C5. I think its a shop car. That is huge, 115/116 to 121.

local STOCK GTR ran 11.1@121. This was with an excellent driver.

As said don't trap 131 stock. Seen one run 11.37@122 all day.

Rumor has it that Chuck Norris ejaculated into the molten metal pool that was used to forge the sheet metal of all mach-1's.

This would have been a better run for that ZL1...on that day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVqUGQyA9EI

i guess some people just can't drive...like i stated in a different post, 12.1@117mph and a 12.3@119mph...done by people who can drive...but i agree with most of what was said above...sad times when a ZL1 is running what the stock SS is running, and yes for almost $60,000 i would be mighty pissed right about now...EVOLVE said it right, it needs jenny craig...that car outweigh's the GTR !!!!...the rear alone is twice as heavy as the one in the SS...yes i know it's a stronger unit, but come on...i too hope the next platform will correct this...and like OHIO said, that GTR was far from stock, and the ZL1 driver sucked.

PHantaZm...yeah that would have been closer, but a stock '13 GTR's best time that have seen is 11.1@126mph...done with an excellent driver in great conditions....even with ''ranger'' driving the ZL1 cannot beat a GTR...but that asswipe driving it sucked, the same way that other jackass with the ZR1 couldn't get out of the 12's where OHIO was racing...pitiful.

Talking about someones mom like that should not be tolerated. I recommend a band.

Speaking of ones mother in a sexual way should be somthing no posters here have to endure. Go to a honda site and do that but please not here

Talking about someones mom like that should not be tolerated. I recommend a band.

Speaking of ones mother in a sexual way should be somthing no posters here have to endure. Go to a honda site and do that but please not here

Which band would you recommend?

:lol:

PHantaZm...yeah that would have been closer, but a stock '13 GTR's best time that have seen is 11.1@126mph...done with an excellent driver in great conditions....even with ''ranger'' driving the ZL1 cannot beat a GTR...but that asswipe driving it sucked, the same way that other jackass with the ZR1 couldn't get out of the 12's where OHIO was racing...pitiful.

The GTR phantom posted was same place the ZR1 couldn't get out of its way. LOL..that same GTR looks.like the one I seen go low 11's@123. I haven't been back down to that track as they told me I couldn't run without a cage.

If I was going to buy a ZL1 it would not be for drag racing reasons. It's obvious this car was developed to handle, and it does that well. I'd like to see a race between a Boss and ZL1 on a track like Mazda or Road Atlanta...

Road Atlanta would be a dayum good setting!

For 54k+ yes, that sucks.


:smokin2:

please stop smokin the illegal stuff.

apparently if you race the auto zl1 in drive it takes off in second gear. the only way to get it to take off in first is to manually shift it down. this may explain some discrepencies.

Which band would you recommend?

:lol:

Which band would you recommend?

The one your mom likes

word. they come out hard because of their training wheels but then fall on their face.. compared to other comparable comparisons.

I wouldn't call a car that traps 125mph stock (2013 GT-R) falling on it's face up top.

gtr's don't need a good driver. oprah winfrey could pilot one to a low 11 sec pass.

This is a STOCK GT-R with a good driver:

http://youtu.be/ilYkIC1oJ4o

i dont give two shits about your rice rocket.

i dont give two shits about your rice rocket.

Well then don't post wrong information. Also its not nice to call names. How about you actually drive a car before you say the car drives itself.

I wouldn't call a car that traps 125mph stock (2013 GT-R) falling on it's face up top.

But that's just the 2013, right? The previous years don't come close to 125mph.

But that's just the 2013, right? The previous years don't come close to 125mph.

2012's have trapped 125mph bone stock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8B_xDJzdw

09-11 GT-R's trap 118-120mph average stock

2012 GT-R's trap 122-124mph stock.

2013's trap 123-125mph average stock.

Well then don't post wrong information. Also its not nice to call names. How about you actually drive a car before you say the car drives itself.

i didn't post wrong information. the GayT-R traps around 10 mph less than the zr1. either your reading and comprehension skills are a little low concerning my original post, or your butthurt went through the roof and clouded your eyes a little.

The one your mom likes

Here I was looking for some good new music, and you have to make a mom joke out of it? I should band you for something like this.

i didn't post wrong information. the GayT-R traps around 10 mph less than the zr1. either your reading and comprehension skills are a little low concerning my original post, or your butthurt went through the roof and clouded your eyes a little.

So 125mph is 10mph slower than the ZR1? You are retarded. And you did post wrong information. And where was the ZR1 mentioned in any of this until you just posted it?

You posted wrong information retard.

compared to other comparable comparisons.

Are you referring to this? Because that makes no fucking sense.

So 125mph is 10mph slower than the ZR1? You are retarded. And you did post wrong information. And where was the ZR1 mentioned in any of this until you just posted it?

You posted wrong information retard.



Are you referring to this? Because that makes no fucking sense.


go back, re read, read again, maybe do a little research, go stare at your riced out 350z a little, have a drink of water, then come post again.

go back, re read, read again, maybe do a little research, go stare at your riced out 350z a little, have a drink of water, then come post again.

LOL big talk coming from a guy who has only seen a ZR1 and GT-R in magazines. I don't have time to waste on idiots like you.

1. You posted incorrect information.

2. Your math sucks.

3. Your writing sucks.

You suck.

LOL big talk coming from a guy who has only seen a ZR1 and GT-R in magazines. I don't have time to waste on idiots like you.

1. You posted incorrect information.

2. Your math sucks.

3. Your writing sucks.

You suck.

my info stands. zr1's will trap between 132-135 mph.

the only thing a gtr is good at is 0-60, and that is solely because of its training wheels.

dont get so upset. if you need to have a datsun, then buy a gtr. no big deal.

but if you think a gtr traps anywhere near a zr1 you have alot to learn. hell they haven't caught the z06 on top yet.

You said to re read your post so what I did was take all of the stuff you posted in the thread. Not one mention about the ZR1 until the previous 2 posts.

word. they come out hard because of their training wheels but then fall on their face.. compared to other comparable comparisons.

i'm starting to think that too. the best they have trapped is 116-117 in a negative DA. very disappointed. i was expecting a 120 mph car.

they respond huge to mods. but stock they're slow.

you mean the car itself?

gtr's don't need a good driver. oprah winfrey could pilot one to a low 11 sec pass.

they have ran low 12 passes including a 12.02. but it's the trap speed that's lacking. 117 is the highest i've seen.

apparently if you race the auto zl1 in drive it takes off in second gear. the only way to get it to take off in first is to manually shift it down. this may explain some discrepencies.

i dont give two shits about your rice rocket.

i didn't post wrong information. the GayT-R traps around 10 mph less than the zr1. either your reading and comprehension skills are a little low concerning my original post, or your butthurt went through the roof and clouded your eyes a little.


Like I said before No mentions of the ZR1 until your last 2 posts. You might want to re read your own posts again before I own you even worse.

my info stands. zr1's will trap between 132-135 mph.

the only thing a gtr is good at is 0-60, and that is solely because of its training wheels.

dont get so upset. if you need to have a datsun, then buy a gtr. no big deal.

but if you think a gtr traps anywhere near a zr1 you have alot to learn. hell they haven't caught the z06 on top yet.

Where has ANY stock ZR1 trapped 135mph? Most have trouble trapping 131mph in stock form. The public school system has failed you.



The C6 ZR1 1/4 Mile and Standing Mile Fast List
Last Updated: April 24, 2012

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Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.664 132.92 1.68 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
2~~~~ 10.740 133.21 1.74 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 10.794 132.21 1.80 jamie furman ~ 2009 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 10.851 129.89 1.70 racerns ~~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
5~~~~ 10.950 131.61 1.83 VY ZR1 ~~~~~ 2009 details
6~~~~ 11.071 129.87 1.87 SlowZo6 ~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
7~~~~ 11.235 125.99 1.99 Incon306~~~~ 2010 details


That's directly from Corvetteforum. The top 3 times were done in Negative DA at MIR. Hardly the average times for a ZR1. In the end what the fuck does this have to do with the ZR1.

Somebody pissed in someones cheerios

Somebody pissed in someones cheerios

...and in someones mouthwash...

Where has ANY stock ZR1 trapped 135mph? Most have trouble trapping 131mph in stock form. The public school system has failed you.



That's directly from Corvetteforum. The top 3 times were done in Negative DA at MIR. Hardly the average times for a ZR1. In the end what the fuck does this have to do with the ZR1.

you obviously dont know very much about cars and the 1\4 mile. not surprising coming from a gtr owner. i'm going to let you in on a little secret. the better you 60', (that is the first 60' of the drag strip, or from not moving at the light to taking off) the lower your trap speed. so the better you hook up the slower your speed will be. of if you spin a little your speed will be higher.

dont get so mad that you drive a sub par car. i'm sure you enjoy it. the are actually a great car for metro boys.

The fuck?

Are GTR owners now turning into mach1 owners?

and completely stock motor zr1's have trapped 135. keep researching. google can be your friend.

The fuck?

Are GTR owners now turning into mach1 owners?

GTR's are made out of lightning! REAL LIGHTNING!

GTR's are made out of lightning! REAL LIGHTNING!

I would like to see what a z06 or a zr1 would do with a similar transmission as the GTR.

They're impressive as shit from a dig but once you get them from rolls, unless they modified to hell, they slow as fuck.

you obviously dont know very much about cars and the 1\4 mile. not surprising coming from a gtr owner. i'm going to let you in on a little secret. the better you 60', (that is the first 60' of the drag strip, or from not moving at the light to taking off) the lower your trap speed. so the better you hook up the slower your speed will be. of if you spin a little your speed will be higher.

You continue to make little sense.


dont get so mad that you drive a sub par car. i'm sure you enjoy it. the are actually a great car for metro boys.

Oh I'm not mad, it's just funny hearing a Trans Am owner tell me that I am driving a sub car. :rotflmao:

and completely stock motor zr1's have trapped 135. keep researching. google can be your friend.

LOL you make this so easy. :rotflmao: By that logic, completely stock motor GT-R's have trapped 144mph:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfWo7SpQk2U

Again you fail.

I would like to see what a z06 or a zr1 would do with a similar transmission as the GTR.

They're impressive as shit from a dig but once you get them from rolls, unless they modified to hell, they slow as fuck.

That's funny coming from a guy who owns a car that traps 110mph stock.


I'm not trying to nutswing here either, just tired of idiots like big hammer.

My car actually traps 104 stock. I have an L99, not an LS3.

GT-R was conceived when lightning struck metal.

I wouldn't call a car that traps 125mph stock (2013 GT-R) falling on it's face up top.

Yeah, definitely not falling on it's face up top.

I think a lot of guys are jealous in the SR&K section because you own a car that demolishes a lot of cars from a dig and from a roll

My car actually traps 104 stock. I have an L99, not an LS3.

mine trapped 106 :secret2:L99 also

You continue to make little sense.




Oh I'm not mad, it's just funny hearing a Trans Am owner tell me that I am driving a sub car. :rotflmao:



LOL you make this so easy. :rotflmao: By that logic, completely stock motor GT-R's have trapped 144mph:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfWo7SpQk2U

Again you fail.



That's funny coming from a guy who owns a car that traps 110mph stock.


I'm not trying to nutswing here either, just tired of idiots like big hammer.

instead of continually making yourself look like a fool, keep researching. when i say stock motored i meant stock car. but i agree you aren't that smart.

gtr's are just slow as balls after 60 mph. you need to come to terms with that.

You continue to make little sense.




Oh I'm not mad, it's just funny hearing a Trans Am owner tell me that I am driving a sub car. :rotflmao:


Lol I found that funny too
LOL you make this so easy. :rotflmao: By that logic, completely stock motor GT-R's have trapped 144mph:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfWo7SpQk2U

Again you fail.



That's funny coming from a guy who owns a car that traps 110mph stock.

:lol:


I'm not trying to nutswing here either, just tired of idiots like big hammer.

:cheers:

Here I was looking for some good new music, and you have to make a mom joke out of it? I should band you for something like this.

:lol: I see what you did there

instead of continually making yourself look like a fool, keep researching. when i say stock motored i meant stock car. but i agree you aren't that smart.

gtr's are just slow as balls after 60 mph. you need to come to terms with that.

You got owned badly and still trying to retort? :rotflmao:

You failed once, you failed again and right now you are reaching. Also if GT-R's are slow as balls after 60' why don't you post some vids of yourself dragging them from a roll?

Just be a man, step away and accept being wrong.

You got owned badly and still trying to retort? :rotflmao:

You failed once, you failed again and right now you are reaching. Also if GT-R's are slow as balls after 60' why don't you post some vids of yourself dragging them from a roll?

Just be a man, step away and accept being wrong.

I like the GTR. It seems some of the LSX guys are pure haters w/regard to this car. I don't know why. Its just a fast car stock. HOW THE FU** can someone not like that????????????? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, was that Oprah's fat azz that ran that 10.87? ROFL.

HITMAN...quick question, was your '02 Z06 quicker then your GTR is now ???...i'm just interested, not getting involved in all this ''fun'' your having here...just love both Z06's and GTR's is all...

Mine did 121 stock. Balls slow in todays world.

Hi guys, I have a GTR and it has training wheels. It is only fast from zerotosixty. It takes no skill to operate. I love my Japanese shitbox. I love the haters too. Keep it coming.


Btw, who cares what cars run stock? Honesty how many of us are driving around street racing stock cars? I love mods.

HITMAN...quick question, was your '02 Z06 quicker then your GTR is now ???...i'm just interested, not getting involved in all this ''fun'' your having here...just love both Z06's and GTR's is all...

My Z06 was a lot faster up top, but had a hard time putting down the power.

Hi guys, I have a GTR and it has training wheels. It is only fast from zerotosixty. It takes no skill to operate. I love my Japanese shitbox. I love the haters too. Keep it coming.


Btw, who cares what cars run stock? Honesty how many of us are driving around street racing stock cars? I love mods.

Those training wheels have gotta be wanting to give up on you now with that P800 kit.

Those training wheels have gotta be wanting to give up on you now with that P800 kit.

Haha thanks, but it's just a street car. Full weight, OEM run flat tires. The training wheels are in tact. Shepard reinforced my training wheels. Stock little 3.8L with GT28 turbos bolted on making ~740whp on 93 octane. She falls on her face after 60mph, nothing to worry about. When I get the Ultimate Street Edition the training wheels might fall off.


I'm glad you bought a GTR. I was getting lonely on this forum. I saw your race vs the Audi. Nice kill ;)

Does my Skyline R33 count?...lol

lol @ GTR's not being able to pull up top. Head on over to this "youtube" place and take a look. GTR's are badass cars. I wouldn't want one simply because I prefer to do the shifting myself.

Bagging on the GT-R by calling up other Nissans/Datsuns?

Oooook.... By that token I'm sure you'd change your tune if you rode in my dad in laws stock 190hp '80 Corvette.

I'd rather take the Datsun.

Probably owned a Mach1 at one point in his life.



Bad drivers and/or bad passes happen.

17.5@93MPH in a supercharged Ford? I guess we can assume they all run that slow :gruffy:

http://youtu.be/92_6jIEiD98
That's an N/A Saleen, no s/c. He may have lost even if he didn't screw up, that Z28 really took off.

Fucking lol at dude with a trans am calling gtr's junk.

Fucking lol at dude with a trans am calling gtr's junk.

Thats what I thought :lol:

Some people just hate what they can never afford