matt_paco2010
06-19-2012, 08:24 PM
I have a junk block and lots of parts that I don't really care about to play with. I want to experiment with the fasteners and how to get some more clamping load, presuming that the increased torque on the bolts will be beneficial. I'd like to get into building alcohol motors with big compression and cylinder pressures and such.
I stripped a 7/16 main and it made me think. After I installed a helicoil(because it was an easy fix) I noticed that the stud took no damage what so ever. It ripped the threads out of the block like butter. So sometime tomorrow i'm going to take my torque wrench and see if I can actually stretch the stud on a bench, and maybe break it and record what I find.
Then I looked up some different inserts. By far the strongest is the gardsert. it claims something like 8 times the holding power of the original hole. I actually broke a bolt off in a gardsert once at work and tried to drill it out. Long story short, it went to the machine shop. But these are almost too fat to really be useful, there wouldn't be enough base material left in the block because of jackets and cylinder walls etc. But I did come across something called the timesert. Its a very slim profile thread repair that locks into the base material. Its also a thru hole, unlike the helicoil. There are some good promos of it on youtube. And it can be ordered in a long, like up to 1.6". This would transfer the load from the stud, which may only be engaged .500" or something and distribute it throughout the thread engagement of the whole insert. The insert is hardened and I'll try and find a spec for strength and material. Common sense applies, I'd use a CNC to ensure hole concentricity.
So now to my question. I'm still learning engine building. What are the specific benefits and drawbacks of being able to increase the clamping loads of the head bolts and possibly the mains? Has anyone overclamped an aluminum head and warped it and caused it to leak? If you can increase the clapming force in the mains and rods by 30%, after everything had been line honed and reconditioned, would this be a stronger bottom end, spin tighter, handle more power?? Remember I'm thinking about big compression and alcohol, or alcohol and lots of boost. Any input is welcom, Thanks
I stripped a 7/16 main and it made me think. After I installed a helicoil(because it was an easy fix) I noticed that the stud took no damage what so ever. It ripped the threads out of the block like butter. So sometime tomorrow i'm going to take my torque wrench and see if I can actually stretch the stud on a bench, and maybe break it and record what I find.
Then I looked up some different inserts. By far the strongest is the gardsert. it claims something like 8 times the holding power of the original hole. I actually broke a bolt off in a gardsert once at work and tried to drill it out. Long story short, it went to the machine shop. But these are almost too fat to really be useful, there wouldn't be enough base material left in the block because of jackets and cylinder walls etc. But I did come across something called the timesert. Its a very slim profile thread repair that locks into the base material. Its also a thru hole, unlike the helicoil. There are some good promos of it on youtube. And it can be ordered in a long, like up to 1.6". This would transfer the load from the stud, which may only be engaged .500" or something and distribute it throughout the thread engagement of the whole insert. The insert is hardened and I'll try and find a spec for strength and material. Common sense applies, I'd use a CNC to ensure hole concentricity.
So now to my question. I'm still learning engine building. What are the specific benefits and drawbacks of being able to increase the clamping loads of the head bolts and possibly the mains? Has anyone overclamped an aluminum head and warped it and caused it to leak? If you can increase the clapming force in the mains and rods by 30%, after everything had been line honed and reconditioned, would this be a stronger bottom end, spin tighter, handle more power?? Remember I'm thinking about big compression and alcohol, or alcohol and lots of boost. Any input is welcom, Thanks