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Old 06-20-2012, 11:08 AM
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I'll be running this guy in about 2 months, both of our cars are in the shop right now but I just wanted to see what u guys theink the outcome will be on. We will be racing from a roll then on the 1/4.

His car: 2001 camaro as
Heads, intake, and a big cam not sure on the specs.
4.11 gears, auto, I'm not sure on the stall
And 150 shot of nitrous. He's got a few other things done to it.

My car: 05 mustang gt
F1a procharger at 22#'s cog setup
302 stroker high 10.0:1 compression on e85
Stage 2 blower cams, ported heads, jpc racing intake
4.10 gears . 5 speed.
I also have nitrous kit hooked up but I'm probably not gunna spray.

I hate asking these questions but I'm really looking forward to this race and so is my buddy. Just a little friendly race that's all
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Didn't see 22psi lol.

Not going to be much of a race if you can hook.

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Your 22 pounds of boost trumps his 150 shot all day long. He's probably got 100rwhp on you motor to motor, but twenty two friggin pounds is alot of boost! I'm not the guy to ask when it comes to boosted and/or ford mod motor stuff, but I'm thinking you should be in the 750-850rwhp range right?

Granted a procharger builds boost like a turbo and a mod motor likes to rev to get its power so he could take a small advantage of that but your power advantage should show itself with a big "W" in the end from either dig or roll.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Your 22 pounds of boost trumps his 150 shot all day long. He's probably got 100rwhp on you motor to motor, but twenty two friggin pounds is alot of boost! I'm not the guy to ask when it comes to boosted and/or ford mod motor stuff, but I'm thinking you should be in the 750-850rwhp range right?

Granted a procharger builds boost like a turbo and a mod motor likes to rev to get its power so he could take a small advantage of that but your power advantage should show itself with a big "W" in the end from either dig or roll.
Holy **** I didn't see the 22lbs.

Yeah, you got him s197..... Jesus ******* christ... 22lbs !?
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how much power did your car put down without the shot? His car is gonna be a low mid 10 sec car making 575-600
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Originally Posted by jetaws6
how much power did your car put down without the shot? His car is gonna be a low mid 10 sec car making 575-600
800-900rwhp. His car still isn't ready yet. I think OP is valmanza over at moddedmustangs, if so he has a sick build coming.
Going to eat that SS alive if he can hook.
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He's gonna outrun ya if his **** is right.
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If he has slicks and can launch his car he will def. out launch you.
Even if you're on slicks on the street you're going to have difficulty hooking. Ask me how I know.

But you should pass him like nothing once you hook.
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You guys have a better idea what kind of power he puts down . My cars gunna be getting tuned late next month. My tuner and other shops say it will lay down over 800rwhp easy on e85. I'll have a race tune for it later on 25 psi when I get my new tranny.
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Originally Posted by sonicblue_s197
You guys have a better idea what kind of power he puts down . My cars gunna be getting tuned late next month. My tuner and other shops say it will lay down over 800rwhp easy on e85. I'll have a race tune for it later on 25 psi when I get my new tranny.
As stated he will be at around 600rwhp but he is going to have a better power curve than you.

Centris are just like a gay *** turbo. Gotta build boost.

1/4 mile I think he will beat you.
Anything else you will walk right past him like he's a prius.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
As stated he will be at around 600rwhp but he is going to have a better power curve than you.

Centris are just like a gay *** turbo. Gotta build boost.

1/4 mile I think he will beat you.
Anything else you will walk right past him like he's a prius.
IF the 'stang can hook, his 4.11 gears will get him back into the power fast enough, though with a 5spd I would think a 3.42 or similiar gear would be better suited to your build? Too bad your mustang doesn't have a big stalled powerglide in it. lol
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
As stated he will be at around 600rwhp but he is going to have a better power curve than you.

Centris are just like a gay *** turbo. Gotta build boost.

1/4 mile I think he will beat you.
Anything else you will walk right past him like he's a prius.
Might help get rid of the "spooling" effect.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ate/index.html
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What kind of rpm you turning Sonicblue?
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
IF the 'stang can hook, his 4.11 gears will get him back into the power fast enough, though with a 5spd I would think a 3.42 or similiar gear would be better suited to your build? Too bad your mustang doesn't have a big stalled powerglide in it. lol
i was thinking the same. More than like he's not gonna be pulling enough rpm to get threw the 1/4 with 4.10.....maybe if he's a 28" tire but that may not even work.
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Yea the 4.10's might be too much for this new motor. But I'm doin one thing at a time lol if everything goes good on the dyno and doesn't blow up il be switching out to 3.73's with a 28 in m/t tire.
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I'm hoping to turn it to 7000 rpm's for the street tune, but il see what my tuner thinks. And mane 7500 on the race tune with e98 or c16 race fuel.
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If you're going to run pump I'd run meth.
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roll- you 1/4 mile- him
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Built this motor specifically for e85. That why I went with the higher compression. But il probably just break it in on pump gas so we will see

Meth is tempting iv been thinking about it for a while now. But il wait first to see what the iat's are.
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Originally Posted by sonicblue_s197
Built this motor specifically for e85. That why I went with the higher compression. But il probably just break it in on pump gas so we will see

Meth is tempting iv been thinking about it for a while now. But il wait first to see what the iat's are.
I'd run meth on top of pump just for safety sake.

You're pushing a **** ton of boost through high compression.

Guy with a foxbody here had a fully built dart block for boost. Was boosting around 22ish also. Made over 1000rwhp. Ran it on pump gas for a bit and literally blew the "indestructible" dart in a million pieces. He then bought another dart block, and now is running even more boost on pump gas but with meth and hasn't had a problem since.

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