Street Racing & Kill Stories - Vortech 2v vs HC TA
mannyman84
06-20-2012, 11:54 AM
After one of my buddies finished his setup I called him out for some friendly runs. I felt like I was the underdog because my sucky gears and my car being heavier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChTlFGMRgjg
HioSSilver
06-20-2012, 12:07 PM
What's your mods?
6PntHo
06-20-2012, 12:18 PM
damn not bad, whats your mods? Your friend should be around 420hp if i would guess.
mannyman84
06-20-2012, 12:20 PM
Ms3 cam and 243 heads. I need some taller gears, every hit he would start to pull until I would hit power and we would pretty much stay like we were. He wouldn't pull anymore and I wouldn't gain.
6PntHo
06-20-2012, 12:32 PM
Ms3 cam and 243 heads. I need some taller gears, every hit he would start to pull until I would hit power and we would pretty much stay like we were. He wouldn't pull anymore and I wouldn't gain.
Get some gears in there and do it again. I bet the outcome will be diffrent this go around.
mannyman84
06-20-2012, 12:49 PM
That's my plan. After some gears and some weight reduction (remove tools from the trunk) there will be a rematch.
flattusmaximus78
06-20-2012, 04:33 PM
Good runs, fast 2v. Tell your friend to get a better bypass valve.
mannyman84
06-20-2012, 04:54 PM
Good runs, fast 2v. Tell your friend to get a better bypass valve.
Why is that?
HioSSilver
06-20-2012, 04:58 PM
If that is just a vortech bolted on a 2v you better go check your shit. You should've walked him like no tomorrow.
flattusmaximus78
06-20-2012, 05:06 PM
Why is that?
That flutter sound is air hitting the compressor wheel, which it shouldn't.
Turbo2vGT
06-20-2012, 05:27 PM
Good runs, fast 2v. Tell your friend to get a better bypass valve.
+1
If that is just a vortech bolted on a 2v you better go check your shit. You should've walked him like no tomorrow.
:eyes:
OP, what Vortech does the Mustang have on it?
mannyman84
06-20-2012, 09:36 PM
I honestly don't know. All I know is he has a vortech. My car didn't put much power down, I'll be swapping the cam sometime this year, I'm really not happy with the setup. Plus I still have stock injectors, and exhaust and other little things. And my tuner also said it wasn't putting power like an ms3 because it only made power till 6k and actually made some torque unlike the ms3.
HioSSilver
06-20-2012, 09:39 PM
I knew something had to be up with it. With that h/c you should walk the dog on a typical boosted 2v.
mannyman84
06-20-2012, 10:08 PM
That's what I thought. He said he has a v3 SCi with 10 boost
itsslow98
06-20-2012, 10:12 PM
Ms3 cam and 243 heads. I need some taller gears, every hit he would start to pull until I would hit power and we would pretty much stay like we were. He wouldn't pull anymore and I wouldn't gain.
Yea id be pretty dissappointed getting pulled on by that car with those mods. But id liek to know more details on the 2v, at least it sounded like he could drive.
Man i was expecting a rape scene by the LS1. My friend raced a vortech 2v with his bolt on z28 (lid, catback, long tubes, y pipe) got beat by the same margin as this LS1 lost.
mannyman84
06-21-2012, 12:18 AM
I'm not disappointed. Just pretty unsatisfied by my setup. Idk where I went wrong.
I was also expecting to at least slowly pull but guess not. I'll see how it goes with my gears
FastAzzCobra
06-21-2012, 12:36 AM
Dont be so hard on yourself man, this setup is better than most of the ones you guys see out there. Dont underestimate this 2v tho lol!
03CENTGT
06-21-2012, 12:43 AM
What's up guys! New here, I'm the owner of the Mustang. Manny invited me over lol.
As far as mods on the 2V it's got a Vortech supercharger pushing 10-11lbs on a cold night. Stock bottom end,stock heads, cams and intake everything is still stock. It was tuned at GTR HiPerformance in Rancho cucamanga on 91 octane. No big crazy #s lol pushing low 400 to the wheels. Manny's car is fast so I knew we were going to have a good race from the get go! :)
lemons12
06-21-2012, 01:29 AM
If you keep that cam, fly cut and mill the heads. Big cams like compression.
BOBS99SS
06-21-2012, 05:05 AM
Manny there is nothing wrong with your set up, thats a max effort set up that prob isnt being used even close to its full potential, i can tell you for one that stock gears in a ms anything isnt going to run all that well, 4.10s minimum, if you have a 10 bolt and your going to be running that for awhile there worth to do for the time being just dont get crazy and break it, i cant see your sig but what are the details on your car, max effort cams need max effort parts, i also would like to know more info on the 2v, ya never know with a 2v, i have seen some vortech ones run high 13s but then on the street ya can run into a guy running alot of pounds lol
916 BREDWNR
06-21-2012, 08:46 AM
Manny there is nothing wrong with your set up, thats a max effort set up that prob isnt being used even close to its full potential, i can tell you for one that stock gears in a ms anything isnt going to run all that well, 4.10s minimum, if you have a 10 bolt and your going to be running that for awhile there worth to do for the time being just dont get crazy and break it, i cant see your sig but what are the details on your car, max effort cams need max effort parts, i also would like to know more info on the 2v, ya never know with a 2v, i have seen some vortech ones run high 13s but then on the street ya can run into a guy running alot of pounds lol
Good points BUT definitely not a max effort setup with production heads, stock compression, and a MS3. Still should run great once the bugs are worked out.
BigBirdLS1
06-21-2012, 09:04 AM
A few years ago I ran a 04 GT that was bolt-ons with a Vortech at 11lbs I think. He said it made a touch over 400rwhp. My car was bolt-ons and 3.90 gear from a 35 roll to 110 we were door to door two times in a row. The stang did have a passenger and I was alone though.
If the 2v stang is like he said it was OP you've got problems.
mannyman84
06-21-2012, 12:49 PM
I out run every bolt on tuned ls1 ive ever ran. Probably just me idk.
BigBirdLS1
06-21-2012, 02:38 PM
OP you NO DOUBT probably has outrun every bolt-on LS1 you've come across. IIRC you posted bids a long time ago where you were basically stock and out ran a new 5.0 and now that you are H/C you can't out run a ~400rwhp 2v....something isn't adding up here.
mannyman84
06-21-2012, 02:47 PM
OP you NO DOUBT probably has outrun every bolt-on LS1 you've come across. IIRC you posted bids a long time ago where you were basically stock and out ran a new 5.0 and now that you are H/C you can't out run a ~400rwhp 2v....something isn't adding up here.
Should of kept my old setup and put n2o on the bitch
thunderstruck507
06-21-2012, 03:16 PM
Plus I still have stock injectors, and exhaust and other little things. And my tuner also said it wasn't putting power like an ms3 because it only made power till 6k and actually made some torque unlike the ms3.
Stock injectors with a MS3 and 243s? That isn't right, you should have needed injectors with just the cam. What exactly do you mean "stock exhaust"?
A big cam car can't be thrown together...if you don't have your shit together it will be a huge disappointment. Sounds like you have a lot left to do to have a properly running car.
BigBirdLS1
06-21-2012, 03:37 PM
I 100% agree with above post. I believe you are running out of fuel in a bad way fast which is probably why that donkey dong cam of yours isn't making power past 6000rpm. Give that sucker more fuel on the injector and pump side retune and you'll be set. Assuming your tuner knows what he's doing as well.
mannyman84
06-21-2012, 03:52 PM
True. And honestly I was getting despret to get it out the driveway so I just put it together without good injectors. Also when it was tuned my starter was not working properly so my tuner was getting frustrated.
CyberGrey Z28
06-21-2012, 05:06 PM
True. And honestly I was getting despret to get it out the driveway so I just put it together without good injectors. Also when it was tuned my starter was not working properly so my tuner was getting frustrated.
Wouldn't your tuner(sp) tell you if you were running out of fuel though?
Any track times for your car or the GT?
mannyman84
06-21-2012, 09:14 PM
I would think he would tell me but didn't mention it. I think the gt ran 7.9 at the 1/8 mile and none for mine yet