Street Racing & Kill Stories - Finally got my shot...2001 WS6 vs. 2011 5.0 *Vids*

Went down to Mexico for some fun today.

Recently one of my buddy's picked up a 2011 5.0, he had been wanting to run for a while so we finally made it happen. Both cars had passengers, he and his passenger weighing in lighter the me and mine ~90lbs. His shifting could get better, once he get's a mod or 2 we're running again.

My car also has 3:23's instead of 3:42's because my 10 Bolt took a poop a while back and I needed a quick fix, haven't had to chance to get gears yet.

2011 5.0:

-Muffler Delete
-No Tune


2001 WS6:

-Lid
-LT's/ORY
-Catback
-TB
-3:23's
-M6

Here's the cleanest run we got, 2nd gear roll ~45-50mph

From my car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK-IcxTRCYk


From his car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTBiysP3cIg

Very nice... but im calling trick photography! lmao!

That was a smack down.

Very nice... but im calling trick photography! lmao!

Trick photography hahaha

That was a smack down.

Thanks, I actually thought he was going to get me before the runs.

Goes to show you that them 5.0's are over rated.



Good kill!

Nice kill , its amazing how hard it is to get a run with a new 5.0 around here .Ran a lightly modded one from a 20 roll and he kept a fender on me . Since than haven't ran one but there is a million old 5.0's around ! Lol . Always wondered how your stock rear held up with the drag radial's . How long did it last b4 it took a dump ?

Tell your buddy he has to practice driving a bit and get some miles on that thing and then re-run you. Not calling BS, but I have seen a 3.31 geared 5.0 in action with a friend of mine that can drive and they are no slouch. Easily enough to take a bolt on F-body, even stock still. My brothers longtube/intake/tune M6 6.0 GTO has beaten an F body like yours with the same mods minus the longtubes by a few cars, but was dead even with a bone stock 5.0.

Good run either way though. Probably gonna stir some shit soup with that vid lol.

Goes to show you that them 5.0's are over rated.


Good kill!

Thanks! There is some hype, but when I test drove one I was pretty impressed by it.

Nice kill , its amazing how hard it is to get a run with a new 5.0 around here .Ran a lightly modded one from a 20 roll and he kept a fender on me . Since than haven't ran one but there is a million old 5.0's around ! Lol . Always wondered how your stock rear held up with the drag radial's . How long did it last b4 it took a dump ?

Thanks bro. And yup, probably got like 7K miles/30 track passes before it took a shit so I'm not complaining!

Tell your buddy he has to practice driving a bit and get some miles on that thing and then re-run you. Not calling BS, but I have seen a 3.31 geared 5.0 in action with a friend of mine that can drive and they are no slouch. Easily enough to take a bolt on F-body, even stock still. My brothers longtube/intake/tune M6 6.0 GTO has beaten an F body like yours with the same mods minus the longtubes by a few cars, but was dead even with a bone stock 5.0.

Good run either way though. Probably gonna stir some shit soup with that vid lol.


Yea I definitely agree that he could improve his shifting, and it would help. In no way do I think those cars are a slouch, especially modded. Like I said before I was expecting to lose. But it's not like he was granny shifting either, I'd say it was about average. And my car runs decent for what I have done to it, it's not a slouch either lol. Once he is modded I'm in trouble.

I've been waiting to get a run in with one forever though so I hope it does stir the pot lol!

Based on Ohio's calculation your should be in the 11' easily.

Good run :chug:

Based on Ohio's calculation your should be in the 11' easily.

Good run :chug:

Hahaha I mean I guess:D?

Thanks though, he wants a rematch now so we'll wait for that.

Based on Ohio's calculation your should be in the 11' easily.

Good run :chug:

No i am not the one that says Fbodys run 12's stocka nd 11's with a tune. The 5.0 can be a mid 12 cxar or a high 13 car depends on driver. Watched 3=4 of them run this weekend. one ran 14's stock, One went 12.6 bone stock in DA of 3400. It was an auto at that with simple 3.15 gears. Oh and watched a 408 stroker Fbody run mid 12's.

Good run,think your boy needs more seat time, if ya had a cam that would be about right, 5.0s can hang with a bolt on car pretty easy from what we have seen, good runs though,pretty strong car

Tell your buddy he has to practice driving a bit and get some miles on that thing and then re-run you. Not calling BS, but I have seen a 3.31 geared 5.0 in action with a friend of mine that can drive and they are no slouch. Easily enough to take a bolt on F-body, even stock still. My brothers longtube/intake/tune M6 6.0 GTO has beaten an F body like yours with the same mods minus the longtubes by a few cars, but was dead even with a bone stock 5.0.

Good run either way though. Probably gonna stir some shit soup with that vid lol.
driver mod

driver mod

LOL yea, that goes a long way apparently!

Nice run funny the guy here that runs 12's with his 5.0 is an auto with 3.15 the 6spd guys are fighting traction issues I think the gears are helping them wounder what they do with good sticky tires

Goes to show you that them 5.0's are over rated.



Good kill!

cammed/stalled/heads ls1 vs 5.0 with tune only, even the whole way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdSAtTm3X0


5.0 with bolt ons puppy kicking a ls1 with bolt ons and spray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrbRGxFcxc


new stock 5.0 running 12.7 stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPk7fj5HGA

same stock mustang gets a tune only and now runs 12.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty1ygugpTt8

and the daddy, 2012 AUTO stock everything except tune, cai, x pipe and axleback, with full tank of gas and no weight reduction runs in the 11's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_WB_2CiwQ

and your saying these cars arnt impressive? im glad i sold my camaro for one but hey im not here to start an argument, just saying i think some people under rate the stang because half the people who buy them dont know how to drive them. i agree that the above victory was due to the guy not knowing how to drive his car. oh well, this will probably start some sort of argument anyway so................................................ .......................................
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cammed/stalled/heads ls1 vs 5.0 with tune only, even the whole way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdSAtTm3X0


5.0 with bolt ons puppy kicking a ls1 with bolt ons and spray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrbRGxFcxc


new stock 5.0 running 12.7 stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPk7fj5HGA

same stock mustang gets a tune only and now runs 12.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty1ygugpTt8

and the daddy, 2012 AUTO stock everything except tune, cai, x pipe and axleback, with full tank of gas and no weight reduction runs in the 11's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_WB_2CiwQ

and your saying these cars arnt impressive? im glad i sold my camaro for one but hey im not here to start an argument, just saying i think some people under rate the stang because half the people who buy them dont know how to drive them. i agree that the above victory was due to the guy not knowing how to drive his car. oh well, this will probably start some sort of argument anyway so................................................ .......................................
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You haven't been here long enough to know Heater says all mustangs are overrated even if it run 6's in the 1/4 at 250mph.

You haven't been here long enough to know Heater says all mustangs are overrated even if it run 6's in the 1/4 at 250mph.


ive been here before, different email and different account way back when i was in highschool. never saw him then though and that was the time when chevy was dominating the mustang so it was a legit claim.

Not tring to be rude but what do they mph stock just woundering and has anyone run one stock with DR

Not tring to be rude but what do they mph stock just woundering and has anyone run one stock with DR

They should mph around 110-112 bone stock depending on the track. Never run one with DR's but havn't needed to. My buddies with an M6 and 3.31's hooked well from 2nd gear rolls.

So much hate in this thread lol damn all I did was race the guy and post it. Nobody said 5.0's are slow! And FWIW he's not a horrible driver. Yes the driver can make a significant difference, but it is not his first fast car and he wasn't granny shifting.

Driver mod ftw!!! Good job Rob. And you probably have one of the strongest bolt on LS1's I've ever encountered.

Is it still untuned??

well ls1rob trapped 111 or 112 can never remember which one. so dont see it being shocking lol

That's moving for a stock car love the way they look to good run by the trans am still think the ws6 is the meanest looking car ever built

well ls1rob trapped 111 or 112 can never remember which one. so dont see it being shocking lol

He has gone 12.4 @ 112 i believe with only bolt ons/headers untuned.
That same night i went 13.0 @ 110 mild cam and no headers.

So much hate in this thread lol damn all I did was race the guy and post it. Nobody said 5.0's are slow! And FWIW he's not a horrible driver. Yes the driver can make a significant difference, but it is not his first fast car and he wasn't granny shifting.

I still don't think he'll beat you with a pro driver.

Just be glad you run into one of them Mach 1's :ripped:

Why do you have 323's? Was your car an a4 before?

Ok actually took the time to read why you have 323's lol. But good kill, careful because with some good mods they can haul ass

So much hate in this thread lol damn all I did was race the guy and post it. Nobody said 5.0's are slow! And FWIW he's not a horrible driver. Yes the driver can make a significant difference, but it is not his first fast car and he wasn't granny shifting.

5.0's are slower then the new Fiesta...You didn't here. :eyes:

You haven't been here long enough to know Heater says all mustangs are overrated even if it run 6's in the 1/4 at 250mph.



Just trying to fit in :nod:

I'm gonna have to watch my back for these awesome 5.0's.

Stock I agree they arnt anything special, improvement from the previous years definitely though. Its when you x pipe and tune these cars that they become a completely different car. Fords factory tune is conservative and depressive lol.

The above video, 12.5 with only a tune shows the difference

Good kill!

Driver mod ftw!!! Good job Rob. And you probably have one of the strongest bolt on LS1's I've ever encountered.

Is it still untuned??

Thanks Jason that makes me feel all fuzzy inside :) haha

and yes unfortunately

well ls1rob trapped 111 or 112 can never remember which one. so dont see it being shocking lol

Lol damn near 112, 111.8

That's moving for a stock car love the way they look to good run by the trans am still think the ws6 is the meanest looking car ever built

I wouldn't say meanest but one of them for sure!

He has gone 12.4 @ 112 i believe with only bolt ons/headers untuned.
That same night i went 13.0 @ 110 mild cam and no headers.

Close, 12.5@111 but that was on a 1.99 so it still has a lot of improvement.

I still don't think he'll beat you with a pro driver.

Just be glad you run into one of them Mach 1's :ripped:

I avoid Mach 1's so I don't get my pride hurt...oh wait lol.

Ok actually took the time to read why you have 323's lol. But good kill, careful because with some good mods they can haul ass

Yup, I'm fully aware of that I know the potential and I have seen plenty whooping some ass in the SRK section.

5.0's are slower then the new Fiesta...You didn't here. :eyes:

Yup especially the blown ones...

I'm gonna have to watch my back for these awesome 5.0's.

Lol I think you'll be just fine

Stock I agree they arnt anything special, improvement from the previous years definitely though. Its when you x pipe and tune these cars that they become a completely different car. Fords factory tune is conservative and depressive lol.

Yup, I know once he gets any mods my chances are pretty much over. But when he does mod up we're having a rematch and I'll most likely be seeing his tail lights lol.

Good kill!

Thank you sir!

I'll puppy drop kick him if needed to make u feel better when he mods and u lose lol

cammed/stalled/heads ls1 vs 5.0 with tune only, even the whole way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdSAtTm3X0


5.0 with bolt ons puppy kicking a ls1 with bolt ons and spray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrbRGxFcxc


new stock 5.0 running 12.7 stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPk7fj5HGA

same stock mustang gets a tune only and now runs 12.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty1ygugpTt8

and the daddy, 2012 AUTO stock everything except tune, cai, x pipe and axleback, with full tank of gas and no weight reduction runs in the 11's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_WB_2CiwQ

and your saying these cars arnt impressive? im glad i sold my camaro for one but hey im not here to start an argument, just saying i think some people under rate the stang because half the people who buy them dont know how to drive them. i agree that the above victory was due to the guy not knowing how to drive his car. oh well, this will probably start some sort of argument anyway so................................................ .......................................
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY
^^ you sure this is'nt you?

Good sh*t Rob!! Once I sort my problems out with my SS we'll have to do a rematch.

The last 5.0 i drove was an A6 and that thing hauled a**. I ended up racing it knowing i was going to lose for sure. They pull very well up top as well. I ended up winning but not by much and if that was a 6speed with 3.73's and good driver i have no doubt my full bolt ons camaro would've lost. Im not suprised that people compare these cars but i am suprised that people expect the camaro or T/A to beat them.

The 5.0 is new and an excellent motor. It wasnt built to beat up on 98-2002 LS1's although it can in the hands of a good driver. So when an LS1 loses to the new 5.0 im not suprised at all its just the 5.0 is a better car, nothin taken away from camaro's or T/A. Hopefully GM will make the next Gen Camaro lighter so it can handle better, stop better and accelerate better. For now if i had to pick between a challenger, 5.0 or camaro meaning all models being new i would hands down pick the 5.0, just my preference.

The above video, 12.5 with only a tune shows the difference

The white stock 5.0 was heating the tires??? why would he heat up stock street tires? it doesnt help, clean them off sure but to heat them up makes no sence.

12.7to 12.5 on a tune??? waste of Cash.. imo

Don't get me wrong, also IMO this is the BEST mustang produced so far, even slightly better then the Termi's I have only rode in one not driven it, but i would admit i would buy one over the new SS unless GM trims the PIG

dont get to over confidant the old 5.0 are a weak step sister to the new coyote motors those things are runn 425 hp and thats stock

dont get to over confidant the old 5.0 are a weak step sister to the new coyote motors those things are runn 425 hp and thats stock

that is to the crank right?? what do they make on mustang dyno to the tire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY
^^ you sure this is'nt you?

notice how nobody thought your post or you was funny?


yea.........

that is to the crank right?? what do they make on mustang dyno to the tire?

yea its 420hp to the crank for the 2013, 2011-2012 goes 411 to the crank. the hp difference comes from a surprising source. its a phosphorus coating on the pistons that the boss models use. besides that the only difference internal wise is the 2013 doesnt have the number 8 cylinder decompression problem a handful of the 2011's had. something to do with the oil squirters.

12.7to 12.5 on a tune??? waste of Cash.. imo


i disagree with only this from your post. maybe its because i only have to pay 200 bucks for a dyno tune for my 2013. ( i know the guy) i dont know many mods that drop you 2 tenths in the quarter for 200 bucks. besides, i dont track that often. the tune on the street is like a whole new animal, was out one night and a fellow 5.0 owner raced his stock against a modded mach1, digs got him by 1 1/2 to 2 lengths and after a tune and x pipe, got him by 3 1/2 to 4 lengths consistently

i disagree with only this from your post. maybe its because i only have to pay 200 bucks for a dyno tune for my 2013. ( i know the guy) i dont know many mods that drop you 2 tenths in the quarter for 200 bucks. besides, i dont track that often. the tune on the street is like a whole new animal, was out one night and a fellow 5.0 owner raced his stock against a modded mach1, digs got him by 1 1/2 to 2 lengths and after a tune and x pipe, got him by 3 1/2 to 4 lengths consistently

I will agree if you paid only 200 for it, i was thinking for 500 to 600 it was a waste, i bolted on stock rubbed 6.0 heads for 300 and picked up 20 to the ground, so i agree cheap power rules.

notice how nobody thought your post or you was funny?


yea.........

Notice how I was directing it at you and nobody else? yea............. lol.

Why alot of you guys think a Stock 5.0 should beat a Full bolt on LS1 is beyond me. Most Stock 5.0's are 109-112 cars and thats a dead heat for a full bolt on LS1. My A4 WS6 went 12.5@112 with full bolt ons, street tires, 3.23's and a predator tune. My M6 WS6 went 12.7@109 with a Lid, Catback and a cutout. I have ran alot of Stock 5.0's in my SRT8 and have never been pulled on and a full bolt on, Tuned M6 LS1 is faster then me by a little. I know because I have ran these races in the same night. A properly driven full bolt on M6 LS1 should be able to pull a Stock 5.0 by about a car. Not saying it should happen every time.

My old M6 Lid, Catback, Cutout WS6 vs Stock 3.31 5.0
I know most of you remember this video it has almost 200,000 views lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI

[QUOTE=NiteRiderWS6;16462305]Why alot of you guys think a Stock 5.0 should beat a Full bolt on LS1 is beyond me. Most Stock 5.0's are 109-112 cars and thats a dead heat for a full bolt on LS1. My A4 WS6 went 12.5@112 with full bolt ons, street tires, 3.23's and a predator tune. My M6 WS6 went 12.7@109 with a Lid, Catback and a cutout. I have ran alot of Stock 5.0's in my SRT8 and have never been pulled on and a full bolt on, Tuned M6 LS1 is faster then me by a little. I know because I have ran these races in the same night. A properly driven full bolt on M6 LS1 should be able to pull a Stock 5.0 by about a car. Not saying it should happen every time.

My old M6 Lid, Catback, Cutout WS6 vs Stock 3.31 5.0
I know most of you remember this video it has almost 200,000 views lol

wtf with your sig? :lol:

The white stock 5.0 was heating the tires??? why would he heat up stock street tires? it doesnt help, clean them off sure but to heat them up makes no sence.

12.7to 12.5 on a tune??? waste of Cash.. imo

Don't get me wrong, also IMO this is the BEST mustang produced so far, even slightly better then the Termi's I have only rode in one not driven it, but i would admit i would buy one over the new SS unless GM trims the PIG

I disagree with it was a waste of money.Look at his mph went from 111 to 116 mph 5mph is alot.Also listen how bad he was spinning that is a 11 second car all day on some good tires.Spinning that bad with that kind of mph.I bet that car would be close to 119mph coming out hard on some good tires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY
^^ you sure this is'nt you?

LMAO!!!

I actually thought it was Ohio's baby brother.

Why alot of you guys think a Stock 5.0 should beat a Full bolt on LS1 is beyond me. Most Stock 5.0's are 109-112 cars and thats a dead heat for a full bolt on LS1. My A4 WS6 went 12.5@112 with full bolt ons, street tires, 3.23's and a predator tune. My M6 WS6 went 12.7@109 with a Lid, Catback and a cutout. I have ran alot of Stock 5.0's in my SRT8 and have never been pulled on and a full bolt on, Tuned M6 LS1 is faster then me by a little. I know because I have ran these races in the same night. A properly driven full bolt on M6 LS1 should be able to pull a Stock 5.0 by about a car. Not saying it should happen every time.

My old M6 Lid, Catback, Cutout WS6 vs Stock 3.31 5.0
I know most of you remember this video it has almost 200,000 views lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI


Was wondering if you would chime in. As most of you know, I was the guy who set these runs up and was there in person. 5.0 driver bracket races his dads 9 second 4spd chevelle? and is by all accounts a great driver. Did a crap load of runs to get that video, it was not a fluke. Also, that same rental 5.0 had already beaten down two rental 2010 SS auto camaro's a few days earlier. The dig rapeage was due to Niterider's insistence on putting bling bling rims on all his cars, hence no traction.

I disagree with it was a waste of money.Look at his mph went from 111 to 116 mph 5mph is alot.Also listen how bad he was spinning that is a 11 second car all day on some good tires.Spinning that bad with that kind of mph.I bet that car would be close to 119mph coming out hard on some good tires.

Spinning bad? Are you serious? The car wasn't even on the limiter. it spun a little coming out of the hole and chirped 2nd gear...That car on tires would drop MPH.

Was wondering if you would chime in. As most of you know, I was the guy who set these runs up and was there in person. 5.0 driver bracket races his dads 9 second 4spd chevelle? and is by all accounts a great driver. Did a crap load of runs to get that video, it was not a fluke. Also, that same rental 5.0 had already beaten down two rental 2010 SS auto camaro's a few days earlier. The dig rapeage was due to Niterider's insistence on putting bling bling rims on all his cars, hence no traction.

That and the bogging lol

Notice how I was directing it at you and nobody else? yea............. lol.

that was kinda my point bud, since you quoted i kinda figured the obvious that you directed it to me in some lame attempt to "burn" me. besides whats your deal anyway? have i said anything to you besides my words in this post to offend you? no, unless you are sensitive. have we met before? no. so whats your problem? sounds to me like you got a problem with ford stepping up their game for once and ur mad. mad that your pos camaro isnt the fastest thing in the apartment complex anymore. only explanation i can come up with. well anyway have fun with your hate and discontent. and since you apparently need help understanding a simple reply, if you need any help with reading any of the 3 syllable words in this post just shoot me a pm.

but seriously are you that stupid i have to actually sit down here and explain a reply to you? wow.

The dig rapeage was due to Niterider's insistence on putting bling bling rims on all his cars, hence no traction.


not going to argue too much with this, one thing ive noticed racing my 2013 is these new mustangs do not like to roll race. especially since the one in the video is an auto. they are great dig cars though but unless its tuned its going to be rather unimpressive in stock form. again not trying to stir shit up worse than its getting but the race in both videos prob would have gone differently ( not drastically) if the 5.0 was tuned and very least got rid of those dam restrictive tail and midpipe mufflers.

that was kinda my point bud, since you quoted i kinda figured the obvious that you directed it to me in some lame attempt to "burn" me. besides whats your deal anyway? have i said anything to you besides my words in this post to offend you? no, unless you are sensitive. have we met before? no. so whats your problem? sounds to me like you got a problem with ford stepping up their game for once and ur mad. mad that your pos camaro isnt the fastest thing in the apartment complex anymore. only explanation i can come up with. well anyway have fun with your hate and discontent. and since you apparently need help understanding a simple reply, if you need any help with reading any of the 3 syllable words in this post just shoot me a pm.

but seriously are you that stupid i have to actually sit down here and explain a reply to you? wow.

Someones mad lol hahaha.

Good kill. I don't see a stock 5.0 pulling you

Someones mad lol hahaha.

you know i actually did lol at this.

My buddy bought a 02 z28 bone stock and all we did to it was throw my lid on off my camaro and cut out the rear muffler and i got the car to run 12.70 at 111 with no tune or headers on some cheap ass 245 street tires from discount tire. The new 5.0's are honestly over rated. I have never seen one at the local race track get any lower than a 12.9 bone stock and they are trapping 108 to 110.

Lot of nonsense in this thread.

I warned people on this board years ago 5.0s were no joke. I hang around,raced and driven many of them
However a full bolt on LS1 is not losing to a stock 5.0 or even one with a tune with good driving.
A tuned one taking out an average heads,cammed LS1....something is wrong with the driver or car

Ill run any bolt on n/a 5.0 at Cecil. It will be an ass kicking for them I promise.

Good kills op. I can't wait to run one.

New owner took my brothers old car and went 11.8s on drag radials with a cai, tune, and axle back. 11.6s on slicks, CS so not the 3.73s. 115mph

A friend has one with the 3.73, Ford Racing warrantied tune, GT500 catback, spare tire removed. Stock tires with just a clean off spin, no burnout. It has gone 12.6@113. It was trapping 111-112 stock. What baffles me is the car seems unaffected by DA. It runs the same MPH whether its 50* or 80* and humid.

New owner took my brothers old car and went 11.8s on drag radials with a cai, tune, and axle back. 11.6s on slicks, CS so not the 3.73s. 115mph

A friend has one with the 3.73, Ford Racing warrantied tune, GT500 catback, spare tire removed. Stock tires with just a clean off spin, no burnout. It has gone 12.6@113. It was trapping 111-112 stock. What baffles me is the car seems unaffected by DA. It runs the same MPH whether its 50* or 80* and humid.

Thats still bolt on LS1 territory

^ Thank you lol

New owner took my brothers old car and went 11.8s on drag radials with a cai, tune, and axle back. 11.6s on slicks, CS so not the 3.73s. 115mph

A friend has one with the 3.73, Ford Racing warrantied tune, GT500 catback, spare tire removed. Stock tires with just a clean off spin, no burnout. It has gone 12.6@113. It was trapping 111-112 stock. What baffles me is the car seems unaffected by DA. It runs the same MPH whether its 50* or 80* and humid.

Guy here went 11.9@115 with same tune but had slicks in rear. . Did two passes like that and rest where in the 12.3-12.5 range before those passes.

Buddy just ran 12.7@112 in his bone stock auto. 3.15 gears in 3600 da. What funny is another Guy with him only could get a 12.9@108 out of his 427R roush with tune, Lilly, cams and drag radials

Thats still bolt on LS1 territory

Not where I live.

Lot of nonsense in this thread.

I warned people on this board years ago 5.0s were no joke. I hang around,raced and driven many of them
However a full bolt on LS1 is not losing to a stock 5.0 or even one with a tune with good driving.
A tuned one taking out an average heads,cammed LS1....something is wrong with the driver or car

Ill run any bolt on n/a 5.0 at Cecil. It will be an ass kicking for them I promise.

of course you will look at your sig lol. a bolt on 5.0 vs a bolt on plus cam and stall camaro isnt a match. now if both cars had similar mods id go with the 5.0, given that they can run 11.8's with just x pipe and tune, imagine how that would go with x pipe, tune, intake, stall and cam. car would be a monster.

btw you mentioned cecil i assume your in jax? where at im on arglye. not trying to race fyi im still stock i just traded in my 2011 for a 2013 5.0 last month and the car is still bone stock until the backordered parts come in.

Thats still bolt on LS1 territory

I rarely see bolt on f bodies and surely not well driven ones at all so I'm not trying to argue or discredit that. Just posted personal experience.

For what it's worth my car with mods in sig and not completely lined out tune has ran a best so far of 7.54@92mph 1/8th and 11.92@111mph. It has managed to pull on the 5.0 anyways...I think my tire size or something is throwing off my 1/4 MPH speed.

of course you will look at your sig lol. a bolt on 5.0 vs a bolt on plus cam and stall camaro isnt a match. now if both cars had similar mods id go with the 5.0, given that they can run 11.8's with just x pipe and tune, imagine how that would go with x pipe, tune, intake, stall and cam. car would be a monster.

btw you mentioned cecil i assume your in jax? where at im on arglye. not trying to race fyi im still stock i just traded in my 2011 for a 2013 5.0 last month and the car is still bone stock until the backordered parts come in.

Yes a 5.0 with the same mods is faster. FYI I have heads now. I just can't believe some of the things posted in this thread....tuned cars taking out full bolt on LS1s,heads cam LS1 etc...

Cecil as in Cecil Country dragway.

Lot of nonsense in this thread.

I warned people on this board years ago 5.0s were no joke. I hang around,raced and driven many of them
However a full bolt on LS1 is not losing to a stock 5.0 or even one with a tune with good driving.
A tuned one taking out an average heads,cammed LS1....something is wrong with the driver or car

Ill run any bolt on n/a 5.0 at Cecil. It will be an ass kicking for them I promise.

I agree. someone needs to learn how to drive

Ive seen tuned 5.0s with exhaust and a cold air intake running 12.40's to 12.60 with a 112 to 113 trap speed. Some tracks run faster but not the one close to me

Ive seen tuned 5.0s with exhaust and a cold air intake running 12.40's to 12.60 with a 112 to 113 trap speed. Some tracks run faster but not the one close to me

those people need to learn to drive then. buddys 6 speed 2012 5.0 over here went 11.8 with a tune x pipe and radials. the driver mod seems to be the problem between everyones experiences with 5.0's

cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.

5.0s CAN be fast but there was one last week at the track running 13.5 @ 107 lol, and no, he wasn't a bad driver, he knew was up, also when I went to the track few months ago there was one with full exhaust, cutback, tb, boss intake tune and what not and was only running 12.9 @ 112 on like a 70 degree weather, homeboy just ran a 12.6 @ 112 with a 2.0 on 90degree weather so idk what's wrong with these almighty 5.0s but at RPR they are not as fast as ppl make them seem here, o wait I forgot, we in ls1tech and there is a lot of ford nuts wingers lol, I ran a 12,5@110 in a -33xDA with a 1.88 60ft .... And I only have straight pipe and tune, I am sure with a little weight reduction and some wheels around and atleast a 1.6 60ft I could get a real low low low 12 or maybe, maybe a very high 11

5.0s CAN be fast but there was one last week at the track running 13.5 @ 107 lol, and no, he wasn't a bad driver, he knew was up, also when I went to the track few months ago there was one with full exhaust, cutback, tb, boss intake tune and what not and was only running 12.9 @ 112 on like a 70 degree weather, homeboy just ran a 12.6 @ 112 with a 2.0 on 90degree weather so idk what's wrong with these almighty 5.0s but at RPR they are not as fast as ppl make them seem here, o wait I forgot, we in ls1tech and there is a lot of ford nuts wingers lol, I ran a 12,5@110 in a -33xDA with a 1.88 60ft .... And I only have straight pipe and tune, I am sure with a little weight reduction and some wheels around and atleast a 1.6 60ft I could get a real low low low 12 or maybe, maybe a very high 11

That's like me saying that because all I've seen at my local track is H/C/I 4th Gens running 12's, therefore they all run 12's.

cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.

Dude if you or anyone else can't get a bolt-on ls1 to run atleast 112 then you should just give up, save your money and go find another hobby......like maybe knitting would suit you better.

Baring something is wrong with the car a 6m car will do that easily. Free mods, airlid, poopy mac headers on the stock cat-back, udp and a driver mod is all you need. No dr's , no weight reduction, stock ls1 intake. Hell we got a T/a to go 110 with just free mods.

Granted the new 5.0's are faster,but one should expect them to be. It's 14 years later with a semi redesigned motor, but even better is it's gearing. The ability of the rear to take 6k dumps on a tire and the old f-body just can't et with it. Full bolt-on vs full bolt-on in a drag car and it seems to be really close though.

cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.

Cool story bro.

cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.

Never seen a Cam and Bolt on LS1 trap 111-113. Thats really low. I know guys who had the small TR224 and trapped 117+ and I have never seen a Tune, CAI, Exhaust, Drag radial 5.0 run 11.6 LMFAO yea right...

cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.


Not around here they don't. 113 with a cam and bolt ons???? EWWWW thats terrible. I went 113MPH with bolt ons in an auto at crap track,full weight,stock wheels,all sway bars on and even the spare tire and jack in. Stick car would have went faster.

Dude if you or anyone else can't get a bolt-on ls1 to run atleast 112 then you should just give up, save your money and go find another hobby......like maybe knitting would suit you better.

Baring something is wrong with the car a 6m car will do that easily. Free mods, airlid, poopy mac headers on the stock cat-back, udp and a driver mod is all you need. No dr's , no weight reduction, stock ls1 intake. Hell we got a T/a to go 110 with just free mods.

Granted the new 5.0's are faster,but one should expect them to be. It's 14 years later with a semi redesigned motor, but even better is it's gearing. The ability of the rear to take 6k dumps on a tire and the old f-body just can't et with it. Full bolt-on vs full bolt-on in a drag car and it seems to be really close though.

Agree. Though a full bolt on 5.0 vs a full bolt on LS F body is a big gap though for the LS.

Never seen a Cam and Bolt on LS1 trap 111-113. Thats really low. I know guys who had the small TR224 and trapped 117+ and I have never seen a Tune, CAI, Exhaust, Drag radial 5.0 run 11.6 LMFAO yea right...

I have seen a full bolt on 5.0 run 11.6s at just about full weight-just skinnies,littles and no front sway bar only weight reduction.

Cam and bolt on m6 LS1's will typically run 12.0 - 12.6 @ 111-115 mph from what I've seen here locally.

I've seen tuned 5.0's on tires running 11.9 - 12.2 out here locally.

Just speaking on personal experience as well.

One thing to keep in mind is that there are a ton of variables here.

Track prep/DA
Size of the cam/stall in the LS1's
Driver ability
etc etc you see where I'm going with this.

I would say both cars are pretty close mod for mod with the edge going to the 5.0, again just based on experience.

Cam and bolt on m6 LS1's will typically run 12.0 - 12.6 @ 111-115 mph from what I've seen here locally.

I've seen tuned 5.0's on tires running 11.9 - 12.2 out here locally.

Just speaking on personal experience as well.

One thing to keep in mind is that there are a ton of variables here.

Track prep/DA
Size of the cam/stall in the LS1's
Driver ability
etc etc you see where I'm going with this.

I would say both cars are pretty close mod for mod with the edge going to the 5.0, again just based on experience.

Funny what track do you run at? At SRP I see decent-sized cam/bolt-on LS1's in the 11's for the majority. We know its common for a cam car to hit 400+whp...400whp @ 3400lbs is an easy 11 sec car with the right gear and traction. No brainer here really, dunno where most of you guys are seeing those slow times for LS1's all of the sudden. Sounds like bullshit to me though.

My buddies 5.0 runs in the 12.6s @ 2,000 DA. Auto. Midpipe, mufflers, tune.

ZOMG! Driver! ZOMG AUTO!....etc...


Save that shit. That fucking thing has 5 power gears and a single over drive so save all the "it needs more rear gear!". Fucking thing doesnt go 1:1 till 5th and launches out of a 4:1 first. PLEASE save the gear ratio talk.


...and another thing, when he slams the gas pedal down it flat CHIRPS OUT. No burnouts, no drama, just hauls. So PLEASE all the 5.0 guys here doing 11s allllllllllllll daaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy (brah), please tell us what we can do next to this car to cut a full second off its time and get it where you all think it "should" be while taking off all the mods and returning it to stock. :rolleyes:

I like the car but I'm realistic to what it is. 3,600lbs, a little over 400hp at the crank, good rear suspension for drag and a shit ton of gear ratio in the trans matched with the unadulterated awesomeness of a torque converter. mid-high 12s in "normal peoples" DA sounds reasonable for this car. Shit if they are doing near 11s stock in good DA then I need to move and maybe I'll be in the 10s alllllllllllllllll daaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy (brah).

My buddies 5.0 runs in the 12.6s @ 2,000 DA. Auto. Midpipe, mufflers, tune.

ZOMG! Driver! ZOMG AUTO!....etc...


Save that shit. That fucking thing has 5 power gears and a single over drive so save all the "it needs more rear gear!". Fucking thing doesnt go 1:1 till 5th and launches out of a 4:1 first. PLEASE save the gear ratio talk.


...and another thing, when he slams the gas pedal down it flat CHIRPS OUT. No burnouts, no drama, just hauls. So PLEASE all the 5.0 guys here doing 11s allllllllllllll daaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy (brah), please tell us what we can do next to this car to cut a full second off its time and get it where you all think it "should" be while taking off all the mods and returning it to stock. :rolleyes:

I like the car but I'm realistic to what it is. 3,600lbs, a little over 400hp at the crank, good rear suspension for drag and a shit ton of gear ratio in the trans matched with the unadulterated awesomeness of a torque converter. mid-high 12s in "normal peoples" DA sounds reasonable for this car. Shit if they are doing near 11s stock in good DA then I need to move and maybe I'll be in the 10s alllllllllllllllll daaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy (brah).

Pretty much. lol

all I can tell you guys is speed costs money son how fast do you want to go
I have a 4.6 kicking out 500 on the tires running high 11s or low 12s depending on the heat Kenny bell mamouth supercharger and some 315 nittos in the back , its 2008 GT/CS got 28,500 in the whole car includeing the supercharger , if I choose to spend the cash and stroke it to a 5.0 change heads I can pull 1000 only cost me time and about @ $2500, more speed cost money if you got the money you got the speed doesnt matter what you drive , stock vs stock the 2013 stangs are as bad as it gets , watched a 2013 boss throttle Camero LT1 2 days ago

all I can tell you guys is speed costs money son how fast do you want to go
I have a 4.6 kicking out 500 on the tires running high 11s or low 12s depending on the heat Kenny bell mamouth supercharger and some 315 nittos in the back , its 2008 GT/CS got 28,500 in the whole car includeing the supercharger , if I choose to spend the cash and stroke it to a 5.0 change heads I can pull 1000 only cost me time and about @ $2500, more speed cost money if you got the money you got the speed doesnt matter what you drive , stock vs stock the 2013 stangs are as bad as it gets , watched a 2013 boss throttle Camero LT1 2 days ago

Get out of my thread, and stop clogging up the others with irrelevant nonsense. You sound stupid.

Thanks.

all I can tell you guys is speed costs money son how fast do you want to go
I have a 4.6 kicking out 500 on the tires running high 11s or low 12s depending on the heat Kenny bell mamouth supercharger and some 315 nittos in the back , its 2008 GT/CS got 28,500 in the whole car includeing the supercharger , if I choose to spend the cash and stroke it to a 5.0 change heads I can pull 1000 only cost me time and about @ $2500, more speed cost money if you got the money you got the speed doesnt matter what you drive , stock vs stock the 2013 stangs are as bad as it gets , watched a 2013 boss throttle Camero LT1 2 days ago

Your car is slow..no one cars.

all I can tell you guys is speed costs money son how fast do you want to go
I have a 4.6 kicking out 500 on the tires running high 11s or low 12s depending on the heat Kenny bell mamouth supercharger and some 315 nittos in the back , its 2008 GT/CS got 28,500 in the whole car includeing the supercharger , if I choose to spend the cash and stroke it to a 5.0 change heads I can pull 1000 only cost me time and about @ $2500, more speed cost money if you got the money you got the speed doesnt matter what you drive , stock vs stock the 2013 stangs are as bad as it gets , watched a 2013 boss throttle Camero LT1 2 days ago

I dont know why there is a need of someone coming out and spilling what he has and what it can do and so on on someone elses thread. This is the second thread you posted this on and honestly your car is alot faster then mine but most people dont care and i dont know if your pissed that a mustang lost or just super proud of your car. I think you need to sit back and read what you wrote and see if its relevant.

driver mod

+1:d.

all I can tell you guys is speed costs money son how fast do you want to go
I have a 4.6 kicking out 500 on the tires running high 11s or low 12s depending on the heat Kenny bell mamouth supercharger and some 315 nittos in the back , its 2008 GT/CS got 28,500 in the whole car includeing the supercharger , if I choose to spend the cash and stroke it to a 5.0 change heads I can pull 1000 only cost me time and about @ $2500, more speed cost money if you got the money you got the speed doesnt matter what you drive , stock vs stock the 2013 stangs are as bad as it gets , watched a 2013 boss throttle Camero LT1 2 days ago

fkn lol 500 to the wheels and running 12s, kill yourself.

Funny what track do you run at? At SRP I see decent-sized cam/bolt-on LS1's in the 11's for the majority. We know its common for a cam car to hit 400+whp...400whp @ 3400lbs is an easy 11 sec car with the right gear and traction. No brainer here really, dunno where most of you guys are seeing those slow times for LS1's all of the sudden. Sounds like bullshit to me though.

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n508/usnfenix/freak-out-gif.gif
OH NO!! TWO SIMILAR LS1'S RUNNING DIFFERENT TIMES AT DIFFERENT TRACKS IN DIFFERENT STATES WITH DIFFERENT DRIVERS!?!?!?!?!?!............................must be conspiracy.

fkn lol 500 to the wheels and running 12s, kill yourself.

Hey but he did it with style I am sure. LOL

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n508/usnfenix/freak-out-gif.gif
OH NO!! TWO SIMILAR LS1'S RUNNING DIFFERENT TIMES AT DIFFERENT TRACKS IN DIFFERENT STATES WITH DIFFERENT DRIVERS!?!?!?!?!?!............................must be conspiracy.

Stoppy reincarnated? :jest: :swing:

Y'all must of ran Stoppy off with all the Mach I love :nod:

Hey but he did it with style I am sure. LOL

:rotflmao:

Stoppy reincarnated? :jest: :swing:

whos stoppy?

Poor Stoppy.

Funny what track do you run at? At SRP I see decent-sized cam/bolt-on LS1's in the 11's for the majority. We know its common for a cam car to hit 400+whp...400whp @ 3400lbs is an easy 11 sec car with the right gear and traction. No brainer here really, dunno where most of you guys are seeing those slow times for LS1's all of the sudden. Sounds like bullshit to me though.

Weak rearend so most people don't do no 5k clutch dumps With some stickys when making 400whp on a fbody

Y'all must of ran Stoppy off with all the Mach I love :nod:

I just realized I haven't seen him posting around. Is he still around?

Weak rearend so most people don't do no 5k clutch dumps With some stickys when making 400whp on a fbody

What about all the stalled auto cam only cars in the 11's :confused:

What about all the stalled auto cam only cars in the 11's :confused:

Forgot about the auto cars lol. :bomb:

Full weight stick cars can get there to @ 400 wheel. You don't need 5k dumps to do it. I leave at about 2600-2800.

I have Mad respect for 5.0's Theres one in my area that would edge me out at the end, every single time... Now Its a lil different.

But if anyone thinks the five O's are slow... You have another thing coming. Get a good driver in one of these things and hope luck is on your side.

Before

http://youtu.be/QhgQNleJuvI

http://youtu.be/gJy7k_vAe3U


Now...
After a few mod adjustments, and using different fuel.


http://youtu.be/m4XCe7mYY6M


Of course the 5.0 is modded, but doesnt take much for them to be even with a cam stall LS1

I have Mad respect for 5.0's Theres one in my area that would edge me out at the end, every single time... Now Its a lil different.

But if anyone thinks the five O's are slow... You have another thing coming. Get a good driver in one of these things and hope luck is on your side.

Hmm...I searched the thread and couldn't find one person that claim the
new GT was slow. Did you just want to share your experience with us or what?

Full weight stick cars can get there to @ 400 wheel. You don't need 5k dumps to do it. I leave at about 2600-2800.

Is your rearend stock beside the gears

Is your rearend stock beside the gears

Yes...

Ive seen tuned 5.0s with exhaust and a cold air intake running 12.40's to 12.60 with a 112 to 113 trap speed. Some tracks run faster but not the one close to me

and ive watched them at the NMRA world finals, which can be checked on if you want to, run 11.8 @ 119. that was fall of 2010. they are making more power now. no pro driver. just a Joe checking out his new tune.

i really would love to know how people figure out that others are great drivers? It seems everyone is a bad driver when there choice of car loses but when there choice of car wins, the other guy is a great driver. FYI... ive seen 100s of videos in this section... ive spotted about 3 great drivers. Just because you chirp tires in between gears does not mean you are a good driver. Anyone ever heard of a clutch kick? The reason why you hear most people chirping tires in between gears is because there gas pedal foot is faster then there clutch foot so it throws a quick clutch dump like effect into every shift. Also pay attention to rpm drop and backfires in between shifts... the coolest sounding shifts, are usually the slowest. The fastest shifts, are usually the most calm sounding due to lack of losing momentum and no drive train slack. And with the new 5.0 motor... you have to shift them up top. A short shift will murder them. I shift my car nearly off rev limiter because it will slow down if i dont.

trans am should have won by more.

Late to the party... Haha good shit Rob. Hit me up if you wanna set something up? Or if you just wanna run when you get a tune/gears. Whatever works. Hopefully Ill be able to make it to the track soon. Might have some time in the next couple weeks. Saw Jasons run against the 5.0 not to bad

all I can tell you guys is speed costs money son how fast do you want to go
I have a 4.6 kicking out 500 on the tires running high 11s or low 12s depending on the heat Kenny bell mamouth supercharger and some 315 nittos in the back , its 2008 GT/CS got 28,500 in the whole car includeing the supercharger , if I choose to spend the cash and stroke it to a 5.0 change heads I can pull 1000 only cost me time and about @ $2500, more speed cost money if you got the money you got the speed doesnt matter what you drive , stock vs stock the 2013 stangs are as bad as it gets , watched a 2013 boss throttle Camero LT1 2 days ago

Who's this guy??? 500 hp & you are running high 11s low 12s? :|