Street Racing & Kill Stories - who's killed the gt 500 what did it take

just wondering what it takes to kill a gt500


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It takes a Chevy.

i killed one with a termi swapped notch and no traction in 3rd and little traction in 4th (shit prepped track only the first 60 ft was sticky)

Are we talking about the 2013 version or earlier? A lighter car (3200 lbs or so) and good N/A power (550 whp/520 wtq) with big cubes or even more HP with forced induction.
...Then of course the GT500 could also mod for more HP, so it's hard to say for sure.

I'm surprised no one has said a stock Mach 1 yet...

I didn't kill one but in my old 02 H/C Z06 I was able to put about a car length on an 09 GT500 that made 575rwhp. We ran to about 130ish. Oh my Z06 made 457rwhp.

Can't wait to run into one ;). GT500 are not very common around here. The new ones look to be pretty nasty, the older ones not so much.

just wondering what it takes to kill a gt500


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I think more info is needed to accurately answer your question.

I think more info is needed to accurately answer your question.

About 400 to the tire give or take, my makes 406 to the tire on the Famous Heartbreaker Dyno, but around 450-460 (thats just motor)on a dyno-jet depending on the dyno, I have yet to run the 12-13 Gt500's but I have heard 12 is a bit better and 13 is a Monster but I personnally have not ran one yet.

Beat a couple older ones when just cammed and bolt on from a dig. Depends on the year and mods...

I put a couple cars on a pullied one that was making 556 rwhp with my (at the time) heads/cam/100 shot 2002 Z28.

you sure love to post meaningless thread OP

400 ish lt1 vette is all it took for me


That and a really shity driver in the gt500

op is always on fucking crack

I used to beat them all the time on the track with my old t/a hell i beat a 2010 with my current t/a spining aint wining lol

I beat a stock 2011 gt 500. I got him by 1 car he had 3 passengers, I had one. He was showing off to his friends how fast his car was. He had just bought it. we both took off at the same time 40 roll. He started pulling on me, I fell back 1/2 a car and his friends started to wave goodbye. I shifted to 3rd and I stared reeling him in. At the end of the race I had him by a car.

I took down my brother neighbors gt500, i think it was an 08, but all i had was bolt ons,gears,big cam,a good amount of weight out,drag set up,he wasnt the best driver but i still count that, but any new gt500 is going to take alot more than that, whats your budget and whats done to the car now, ya always could do bolt ons,cam,gears, and a 150good shot that will let ya hang with most,

on the roll? Id think any "dialed-in"premium h/c set up with traction should be comparable...

Bolt on Mach or tune only l99.

Well stock mach 1s will beat anything,thats a proven internet myth !

Pulled a 07 by a fender in cam only ls2. Now that I got a 402 beat another 07 stock by 4 cars from a 30 and then a 2012 by 2 cars.

I drug a 2011 Shelby Super Snake from a roll with my Procharged Trans Am.

I put bus lengths on one....then realized he wasn't racing!!

i ran one at the track,not last year but the year before.......i never seen the car after the tree came down,i put bus lengths on it.

i actually felt bad for the guy.............

i have no clue what year car it was.

GT500's are slow on average at the track. Gusy show up with stock tires think cause the car makes 500-550hp depending on year till new 662h ones. They just blow tires off the tires off them. Short/slow shift them cause they can't drive. See it a lot with them.

No lie I have a witness I 60rolled an older heavier one the 2010s and we were almost even I was stock so was he. Yes it was supercharged it was whining I was surprised. I have an 02 SS

Nitrous!

6:53:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d8RHAfAr2Q

it takes a chevy.

:d:d:d:d:d

If they hook they move out, even stock.

I've raced two of them...one was a stock 07 from a 40 roll and I pulled him by a few cars.

Then I raced a stock 2011 when I wasn't tuned and we were dead even up until 130 he edged me by a fender. Now, he has a built date of like the 18th of this month for a '13 so I'm not even going to be a race for him :(

bolt on mach or tune only l99.


lol!!!

All the machs need is that shaker hood

the boss at work has an 07 he just picked up for like $37k with only 7k miles on it.... its black, convertible with black wheels and he just pullied it and mail order tuned it... I NEED to beat him but I think I have a ways to go. haha the upside is I payed $10k for mine! (02 Z28)

If they hook they move out, even stock.



Lies! :D

the boss at work has an 07 he just picked up for like $37k with only 7k miles on it.... its black, convertible with black wheels and he just pullied it and mail order tuned it... I NEED to beat him but I think I have a ways to go. haha the upside is I payed $10k for mine! (02 Z28)
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Who cares what he/you paid. He got a newer, faster, already SC car.

the boss at work has an 07 he just picked up for like $37k with only 7k miles on it.... its black, convertible with black wheels and he just pullied it and mail order tuned it... I NEED to beat him but I think I have a ways to go. haha the upside is I payed $10k for mine! (02 Z28)

Me personally i would never pay 37k for one of those cars, id probably put 37k towards a C6 though. Yeah thats the upside of buying an old car.

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Who cares what he/you paid. He got a newer, faster, already SC car.

eat my shit...and i was just stating that I've invested only 25% of the money he has invested so thats a plus for me because ill have alot faster for alot cheaper when the time comes...

eat my shit...and i was just stating that I've invested only 25% of the money he has invested so thats a plus for me because ill have alot faster for alot cheaper when the time comes...

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eat my shit...and i was just stating that I've invested only 25% of the money he has invested so thats a plus for me because ill have alot faster for alot cheaper when the time comes...
And your point is? He still has the superior car regardless. Hate it when people use the "well I've only put X amount into my car". It doesn't get you too far
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:lol:

friend of mine had an 08 gt500. Tuned with an air intake... was going 11.6 at 121 on street tires. But he has also spent his entire life racing on street tires.

I raced a 2011 GT500, wasn't even close. I have bolt-ons and a cam.

All they do is spin, it's not hard to beat one. If they have a good driver with some tires, then maybe you need to watch out. Don't they run low to mid 12s stock, not hard to beat that, especially on the street.

I don't know OP, if I can get one to man up and run me I'd tell you. I tried to get a douche to run me and he said I wasn't worth his time. I told him thats a stretch as I was doing him a favor to even consider his car worthy of a run. Bolt on pullied gt500's bring out the douche bags in people.

If y'all lived closer, I could try and line you up with a GT500 :nod:

eat my shit...and i was just stating that I've invested only 25% of the money he has invested so thats a plus for me because ill have alot faster for alot cheaper when the time comes...

As some one said already he still will have the better car. Worth more and his engine will always handle more then what you have now less you do a swap with a built engine. GT500 engines have been know to handle 1000whp stock form. Also so the guy that spent 8k on his built civic that is faster then you must have the better car right...

As some one said already he still will have the better car. Worth more and his engine will always handle more then what you have now less you do a swap with a built engine. GT500 engines have been know to handle 1000whp stock form. Also so the guy that spent 8k on his built civic that is faster then you must have the better car right...

i wasnt saying it like the way you are taking it, I was basically saying it as in i wont have to spend as much money to go as fast as him, and thats a good thing for me...

As some one said already he still will have the better car. Worth more and his engine will always handle more then what you have now less you do a swap with a built engine. GT500 engines have been know to handle 1000whp stock form. Also so the guy that spent 8k on his built civic that is faster then you must have the better car right...

If it's faster, then yeah... It's better.

Get off Ford's nuts.

If y'all lived closer, I could try and line you up with a GT500 :nod:

I'd take that offer, but NC is kinda a hike for me :D

As some one said already he still will have the better car. Worth more and his engine will always handle more then what you have now less you do a swap with a built engine. GT500 engines have been know to handle 1000whp stock form. Also so the guy that spent 8k on his built civic that is faster then you must have the better car right...

The better car? I'd hope his engine can handle more power. You're comparing a 55k-60k dollar car to a 28-32k dollar car. Let's not forget with 10 years ahead in technology.

With only a few grand in mods I walked a GT500, pretty pathetic if you ask me. Not to mention I have 115k miles on it.

GT500's are slow on average at the track. Gusy show up with stock tires think cause the car makes 500-550hp depending on year till new 662h ones. They just blow tires off the tires off them. Short/slow shift them cause they can't drive. See it a lot with them.

This is SOOO True, when i worked at my local track i seen many, many cars come out and get beat by Hondas, rangers, or most anything, they think because they have a big HP car they will destroy everything, when they come in on street tites as Ohio stated, then launch at 7k and spin them selves into the gaurd rail and or a horrible loss. LOLOL

The better car? I'd hope his engine can handle more power. You're comparing a 55k-60k dollar car to a 28-32k dollar car. Let's not forget with 10 years ahead in technology.

With only a few grand in mods I walked a GT500, pretty pathetic if you ask me. Not to mention I have 115k miles on it.

Comparing a modded car to.a stock car is stupid. Cause for a few grand he can make 800whp. And be able to run in the 9's really easy. At end day he has the nicer car inside and out.

i have a 12' gt500 and its quick on the street but theres always that neighborhood kid that pours his paycheck into his car and will rape you one night. its not hard to kill a gt500 if you have a decent amount of money to start out with. its more paying for a name and a car that not every highschooler has. no offense to the f body but it seems like every 15 year old and up in my area has one, its almost a requirement that once in your life own a f body. same with the mustang, but how many gt500's do you see rolling around every day compared to f bodys's and mustang gt's? and thats what your paying for. if you buy one only because you wanted a 500+hp car then your an idiot. a fox or z28 can hit 500+rwhp for FAR less money. just my 2 cents.

Comparing a modded car to.a stock car is stupid. Cause for a few grand he can make 800whp. And be able to run in the 9's really easy. At end day he has the nicer car inside and out.

Tank boy is right though 9s is that easy in them. You never know with a GT500. First thing to look for is the tires. Street radials might mean an easy win if from a dig.

i have a 12' gt500 and its quick on the street but theres always that neighborhood kid that pours his paycheck into his car and will rape you one night. its not hard to kill a gt500 if you have a decent amount of money to start out with. its more paying for a name and a car that not every highschooler has. no offense to the f body but it seems like every 15 year old and up in my area has one, its almost a requirement that once in your life own a f body. same with the mustang, but how many gt500's do you see rolling around every day compared to f bodys's and mustang gt's? and thats what your paying for. if you buy one only because you wanted a 500+hp car then your an idiot. a fox or z28 can hit 500+rwhp for FAR less money. just my 2 cents.

Great post!

10 year old cars are better than new cars.

yup more fun and faster too!

Paying 55k for a name? lol...

I feel sorry for people sometimes, but at least you all are humoring me.

A faster car

i have a 12' gt500 and its quick on the street but theres always that neighborhood kid that pours his paycheck into his car and will rape you one night. its not hard to kill a gt500 if you have a decent amount of money to start out with. its more paying for a name and a car that not every highschooler has. no offense to the f body but it seems like every 15 year old and up in my area has one, its almost a requirement that once in your life own a f body. same with the mustang, but how many gt500's do you see rolling around every day compared to f bodys's and mustang gt's? and thats what your paying for. if you buy one only because you wanted a 500+hp car then your an idiot. a fox or z28 can hit 500+rwhp for FAR less money. just my 2 cents.

dont judge me this is merica and till i am the proclaimed king off the streets i shall never sleep

but on a more serious note just b/c u spend more money on the car doesnt make it the better car...what makes it the better car is the car you saw when you were a little kid dreamed off having one worked day in and day out for and you finally get it and you spend countless nights working on it in the cold and hot days too make it how you want it in the end you wont have a pro outlaw car but a car that is perfection in your eyes no one else's that my friend is what makes a car a better car..to you no one else

agreed sir.

Disagree.

i have a 12' gt500 and its quick on the street but theres always that neighborhood kid that pours his paycheck into his car and will rape you one night. its not hard to kill a gt500 if you have a decent amount of money to start out with. its more paying for a name and a car that not every highschooler has. no offense to the f body but it seems like every 15 year old and up in my area has one, its almost a requirement that once in your life own a f body. same with the mustang, but how many gt500's do you see rolling around every day compared to f bodys's and mustang gt's? and thats what your paying for. if you buy one only because you wanted a 500+hp car then your an idiot. a fox or z28 can hit 500+rwhp for FAR less money. just my 2 cents.
Agreed for sure. Great post!

I'd love another F-body but I'm not sure if I could bring myself to do it because there are just so damn many of them around
Paying 55k for a name? lol...

I feel sorry for people sometimes, but at least you all are humoring me.
Upper level Cadillacs, BMW, Mercedes, etc. etc. A lot of it is paying for a name which generally appeals to class
dont judge me this is merica and till i am the proclaimed king off the streets i shall never sleep

but on a more serious note just b/c u spend more money on the car doesnt make it the better car...what makes it the better car is the car you saw when you were a little kid dreamed off having one worked day in and day out for and you finally get it and you spend countless nights working on it in the cold and hot days too make it how you want it in the end you wont have a pro outlaw car but a car that is perfection in your eyes no one else's that my friend is what makes a car a better car..to you no one else
I see where you are coming from, but in no way is the Camaro of your dreams superior to lets say a BMW M3 or Lamborghini. Maybe in the mind of the gear head who took his car apart piece by piece and has a lot of sweat, blood, and tears into it - but reality eventually overcomes personal feelings

Edit: Missed the "to you" part. Good post

dont judge me this is merica and till i am the proclaimed king off the streets i shall never sleep

but on a more serious note just b/c u spend more money on the car doesnt make it the better car...what makes it the better car is the car you saw when you were a little kid dreamed off having one worked day in and day out for and you finally get it and you spend countless nights working on it in the cold and hot days too make it how you want it in the end you wont have a pro outlaw car but a car that is perfection in your eyes no one else's that my friend is what makes a car a better car..to you no one else

Couldn't say it better myself....

Raced a pulley, intake, tune 08 gt500 from multiple rolls a year ago. I walked him each time pretty good. We stopped and talked afterwards, and wow what a cool guy. Gt500's are sexy as hell. Hopefully I can run into a newer one soon.

Doesn't matter if you can beat one or not, it's all about what car gets more pussy. :cool:

If you need a car to get you pussy well that's just sad

"but on a more serious note just b/c u spend more money on the car doesnt make it the better car...what makes it the better car is the car you saw when you were a little kid dreamed off having one worked day in and day out for and you finally get it and you spend countless nights working on it in the cold and hot days too make it how you want it in the end you wont have a pro outlaw car but a car that is perfection in your eyes no one else's that my friend is what makes a car a better car..to you no one else"

One of the best posts ever made on this forum! This thread should be over after that!

Raced a 2010 in my then 160,000 mile, unopened-motor Grand National. I had all the bolt-ons, a PT6152 hair dryer, Alky Control 100% methanol and 24 lbs of boost. I also had some suspension...LCAs, pinion snubber, GNX bracing, etc. I absolutely murdered him up to about a buck-ten. At that point, we both backed off, and I probably 4-5 cars on him, but I wasn't pulling anymore up-top.

If you need a car to get you pussy well that's just sad

This, I've been able to rely on my personality and physical appeal over the years. I know, so lame right?:pimp:

Sadly all I got is my personality now damn you cupcakes

Agreed for sure. Great post!

I'd love another F-body but I'm not sure if I could bring myself to do it because there are just so damn many of them around

Upper level Cadillacs, BMW, Mercedes, etc. etc. A lot of it is paying for a name which generally appeals to class

I see where you are coming from, but in no way is the Camaro of your dreams superior to lets say a BMW M3 or Lamborghini. Maybe in the mind of the gear head who took his car apart piece by piece and has a lot of sweat, blood, and tears into it - but reality eventually overcomes personal feelings

Edit: Missed the "to you" part. Good post

I agree on the Lambo, but an M3 ?? I would not pay 55k for a M3, now the new ones with a v8 Might be worth more, if they perform, but stock I havent seen a fast one to date. keep in mind I havent ran the new v8 before you flame my post.

I agree on the Lambo, but an M3 ?? I would not pay 55k for a M3, now the new ones with a v8 Might be worth more, if they perform, but stock I havent seen a fast one to date. keep in mind I havent ran the new v8 before you flame my post.

an m3 is more about curves than it is about straight line acceleration. What is overrated by some due to it's price and what it lacks in a straightline is seen as a performance bargain by how well balanced it is in handling, acceleration, comfort and consistent performance. To value a car solely on one dimension is a not good means to judge IMO. Fbodies are made to do one thing and one thing well. Go straight rapidly. M3's are made to be much more than a one trick pony.

an m3 is more about curves than it is about straight line acceleration. What is overrated by some due to it's price and what it lacks in a straightline is seen as a performance bargain by how well balanced it is in handling, acceleration, comfort and consistent performance. To value a car solely on one dimension is a not good means to judge IMO. Fbodies are made to do one thing and one thing well. Go straight rapidly. M3's are made to be much more than a one trick pony.

I can agree to that !

Raced a 2010 in my then 160,000 mile, unopened-motor Grand National.


That's a feat in itself right there.

One of my best friends has a nasty GN and a stock 9,000 mile GNX. When he was running the stock motor, it was hard as hell to keep a head from lifting. We changed I don't know how many head gaskets on that thing.

dont judge me this is merica and till i am the proclaimed king off the streets i shall never sleep

but on a more serious note just b/c u spend more money on the car doesnt make it the better car...what makes it the better car is the car you saw when you were a little kid dreamed off having one worked day in and day out for and you finally get it and you spend countless nights working on it in the cold and hot days too make it how you want it in the end you wont have a pro outlaw car but a car that is perfection in your eyes no one else's that my friend is what makes a car a better car..to you no one else

And when you beat a 55k dollar car with 10k, blood/sweat, it makes it even sweeter.

This, I've been able to rely on my personality and physical appeal over the years. I know, so lame right?:pimp:

:gtfo:

I agree on the Lambo, but an M3 ?? I would not pay 55k for a M3, now the new ones with a v8 Might be worth more, if they perform, but stock I havent seen a fast one to date. keep in mind I havent ran the new v8 before you flame my post.

Ive ran the new V8 and must admit i was expecting it to hand me my a**. They sound great and pull very well. I was amazed that i was able to pull on it. True i was a full bolt on car and his was stock 2011 M3 DSG i think is the tranny. When i use to sell them i wouldnt look at it as a fast car but a car that does everything well not excellent but just is a good well rounded car that to me looks bueatiful. I myself am so tired of seeing 2 doors around were i live i would for sure pick a 4 door M3 if i was interested in buying one.

:gtfo:

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I agree on the Lambo, but an M3 ?? I would not pay 55k for a M3, now the new ones with a v8 Might be worth more, if they perform, but stock I havent seen a fast one to date. keep in mind I havent ran the new v8 before you flame my post.
2012s start at $60,100 brand new msrp. They definitely aren't the quickest of the bunch, but still a nice ass car
an m3 is more about curves than it is about straight line acceleration. What is overrated by some due to it's price and what it lacks in a straightline is seen as a performance bargain by how well balanced it is in handling, acceleration, comfort and consistent performance. To value a car solely on one dimension is a not good means to judge IMO. Fbodies are made to do one thing and one thing well. Go straight rapidly. M3's are made to be much more than a one trick pony.
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Ive ran the new V8 and must admit i was expecting it to hand me my a**. They sound great and pull very well. I was amazed that i was able to pull on it. True i was a full bolt on car and his was stock 2011 M3 DSG i think is the tranny. When i use to sell them i wouldnt look at it as a fast car but a car that does everything well not excellent but just is a good well rounded car that to me looks bueatiful. I myself am so tired of seeing 2 doors around were i live i would for sure pick a 4 door M3 if i was interested in buying one.
They are kind of a disappointed now that everyone has figured out how potent the N54s can be with a tune, meth, and some bolt-ons while still retaining reliability and BMW comfort

but on a more serious note just b/c u spend more money on the car doesnt make it the better car...what makes it the better car is the car you saw when you were a little kid dreamed off having one worked day in and day out for and you finally get it and you spend countless nights working on it in the cold and hot days too make it how you want it in the end you wont have a pro outlaw car but a car that is perfection in your eyes no one else's that my friend is what makes a car a better car..to you no one else

And when you beat a 55k dollar car with 10k, blood/sweat, it makes it even sweeter.

Nope, sure doesn't. Because that guys dream car could be a 55K car that doesn't look/ride/feel/drive like a pos 10K foxbody. Moreover, if you dream of 10K cars, you need to start over with life.

Moreover, if you dream of 10K cars, you need to start over with life.
:rotflmao:

That had me going. So true - thanks for that.

Nope, sure doesn't. Because that guys dream car could be a 55K car that doesn't look/ride/feel/drive like a pos 10K foxbody. Moreover, if you dream of 10K cars, you need to start over with life.

I disagree they did cost more than that new and if you restore a f-body correctly and put a built motor new paint job aftermarket rear end the prices do stack up I have 10k in my little street motor not including 2500 for my 12 bolt around 4k in all brand new suspension new paint job was around 3500 plus converting it too a ss with a vfn hood 3500 in Ccw's plus brand new tires 4k+ for a tr6060 so that's close too 30k not including after makeret gauges my nitrous set up ect it does add up

Not sure what you're arguing?

Not sure what you're arguing?

buddy saying if you dream car is a 10k car you need too start over with life..:mad:

buddy saying if you dream car is a 10k car you need too start over with life..:mad:


A lot of guys on here dream car is a 4 th Gen F-body.

Nope, sure doesn't. Because that guys dream car could be a 55K car that doesn't look/ride/feel/drive like a pos 10K foxbody. Moreover, if you dream of 10K cars, you need to start over with life.

I'd get rid of my bimmers before I get rid of my TA. I've always wanted a TA and mine cost 13k about 4 years ago. I'm happier to own that than either of my bimmers that cost substantially more. Once you have something where you put so much time and effort into building it up with your own hands to be a bad street car like you wanted to when you were a kid you'll understand. Besides, I can actually own out right the cars that some consider dream cars and that doesn't appeal to me at all. the mantra of "built not bought" comes to mind.

I guess I'm a fucking failure at life :(

I'd get rid of my bimmers before I get rid of my TA. I've always wanted a TA and mine cost 13k about 4 years ago. I'm happier to own that than either of my bimmers that cost substantially more. Once you have something where you put so much time and effort into building it up with your own hands to be a bad street car like you wanted to when you were a kid you'll understand. Besides, I can actually own out right the cars that some consider dream cars and that doesn't appeal to me at all. the mantra of "built not bought" comes to mind.

So true.

I've raced a few new ones, not very close really. I had stock block, stock heads, just a cam and a TVS1900 sitting on top in a 4k+ lb sedan. I raced one the driver was claiming had 700hp and I beat him by over half a second. We were both on a 28" tire so no traction excuses. He was mostly running low 11's and eeked out a 10.9 by the end of the day which wasnt bad but not what I expected from a blown stang with bigs and littles.

Not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is not everyone dreams about having a built F body or car that they saw when they were a kid that just goes fast in a straight line. So when someone is says "isn't awesome that I just put 10K into my car and beat some 60K over priced POS?!" No. Its not awesome. And if a car costs 55K there is good reason for it, and ovbiously thats what the owner is into so why does it matter how much they spent? It doesn't. Thats all I'm saying.

I guess I'm a fucking failure at life :(

An F body done correctly is going to go for/cost way more than that so don't guilt trip me! lol

Who fucking cares what somebodies dream car is?? Or how much it costs? Everybody is different and likes different stuff. I'd take my ws6 (10k car :) ) over a lot of other stuff.

On topic though, who cares what it's taken to kill older GT500s. What's it take to kill a new one? Besides a rocket strapped to the ass end..

Who fucking cares what somebodies dream car is?? Or how much it costs? Everybody is different and likes different stuff. I'd take my ws6 (10k car :) ) over a lot of other stuff.

On topic though, who cares what it's taken to kill older GT500s. What's it take to kill a new one? Besides a rocket strapped to the ass end..

They said it, not me. And you are 100 percent correct, everyone likes different stuff, so when some dumb fuck in a turd beats a Mercedes it doesn't make the Mercendes a POS, thats all :cheers:

And by the looks of it, its gonna take a mid 120's car to beat a new one assuming no mods :(

They said it, not me. And you are 100 percent correct, everyone likes different stuff, so when some dumb fuck in a turd beats a Mercedes it doesn't make the Mercendes a POS, thats all :cheers:

And by the looks of it, its gonna take a mid 120's car to beat a new one assuming no mods :(

Sounds like only a few select cars on this forum would be able to manage beating one...........




















Stock Mach 1s and bolt-on ls6s. :nod:

They said it, not me. And you are 100 percent correct, everyone likes different stuff, so when some dumb fuck in a turd beats a Mercedes it doesn't make the Mercendes a POS, thats all :cheers:

And by the looks of it, its gonna take a mid 120's car to beat a new one assuming no mods :(
That I do agree with. It's often said that X exotic or luxury car is a piece of shit because it was beat by a H/C/I fbody. To say it's a piece of shit is retarded or that someone paid too much. Different strokes for different folks.

The flip side of that coin is if you have someone in a $55k car that makes 6 times that amount annually hearing a guy say "you spent too much" while he's a bagger at walmart making 15k a year and driving a $10k car while living at his parents house. Who really paid to much for their car then?


Sounds like only a few select cars on this forum would be able to manage beating one...........

Stock Mach 1s and bolt-on ls6s. :nod:

<----this guy can't hang with bolt on Mach1's. I actually pull over on the side of the road, turn off the car, and chuck my keys into the ditch when I see one rolling by all the while stating "I yield!"

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