View Full Version : Intake/longtube LS2 GTO vs built 347 stroker 94 cobra


NightmareTA
06-30-2012, 12:50 AM
Heres a vid of another local mustang guy. Him and a few of his buddies were deadset on the fact that his cobra would eat the GTO alive after they had thier dreams smashed when the GTO took the eaton swapped mach 1. Needless to say, the GTO is making quite a name for itself here in town. :D

2006 GTO M6: svede intake, kooks catted 1 7/8" longtubes, tune

1994 cobra M5: built 347 stroker, ported trick flow heads, cam, aftermarket intake manifold, etc.

GTO put down 371 RWHP before the longtubes. Cobra made 402 RWHP...on paper the cobra should be quicker. Don't know what happened. Have to say, it is a pretty clean and nasty looking cobra!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2-TIvSTDZE

odthetruth
06-30-2012, 01:05 AM
Different Dynos? Driver Mod? Tune settled? You never know.

Good kill.

Imstock2
06-30-2012, 01:13 AM
it's because both his window's was down.. act's like a parachute... or was it because he dyno'd on a far gracious dyno.. the way you pulled looked like you trap 4-5mph more then him with 31 less rwhp.. something isn't adding up there

NightmareTA
06-30-2012, 01:54 AM
Different Dynos? Driver Mod? Tune settled? You never know.

Good kill.

Def must have been the tune settling. :jest:

As far as dynos, both were on a dynojet...but at different locations. He can use the driver mod but he's not as bad as the mach 1 guy was.

it's because both his window's was down.. act's like a parachute... or was it because he dyno'd on a far gracious dyno.. the way you pulled looked like you trap 4-5mph more then him with 31 less rwhp.. something isn't adding up there

GTO windows were down too I thought....unless you were joking, lol. And damn, you nailed the mph difference. When this race took place, we were on the way to the strip. GTO trapped 113 mph and the stang trapped 108 mph. Like I said, not sure what happened. He didn't touch the setup since he had it dynoed....we did notice it was blowing a bit of black smoke under WOT. Not sure if thats a possible rich issue, but it runs great so I don't think anything is up with it.

NastyTBSS
06-30-2012, 03:05 AM
Good kill! And that was a pretty clean cobra. Iv ran quite a few stroker 5.0 and never have been impressed by them.

clonedws6
06-30-2012, 03:29 AM
113 trap out of a bolt on ls2 gto?

corysmach1
06-30-2012, 05:40 AM
108 mph with 402rwhp? Lol that sucks.

NightmareTA
06-30-2012, 10:04 AM
113 trap out of a bolt on ls2 gto?

Yes...there a problem with that or something? I've seen a few that have trapped very well with bolt ons.

108 mph with 402rwhp? Lol that sucks.

Haha, yea....we didn't get it either. Oh well, thats the price you pay for trying to work with old ass technology and fuel injection. Sometimes it runs good, other times it doesn't. Thats why I ditched my TPI for some LSx power in my 3rd gen!

ScreaminRedZ
06-30-2012, 10:25 AM
Good kill! That is a clean Cobra, I've always been a fan of the 94-98 style.

Awesome job at the track too, now he just needs tires, lol.

6PntHo
06-30-2012, 10:28 AM
Good kill man, that GTO is really impressive.

Mike Morris
06-30-2012, 10:31 AM
Are you sure that is a 347? Something is def not right with that stang. Old tech can run with the right pieces.....
Nice kill.

Bitemark46
06-30-2012, 10:47 AM
performs like a 302 with an alphabet cam.

ScreaminRedZ
06-30-2012, 11:06 AM
Are you sure that is a 347? Something is def not right with that stang.

performs like a 302 with an alphabet cam.

I think that describes most of the 347's that are out there. It seems to be one of the easiest and most common motors to build wrong, for whatever reason.

Roxas
06-30-2012, 11:12 AM
Bitemark got it.

Blown383LS1
06-30-2012, 11:12 AM
Oh well, thats the price you pay for trying to work with old ass technology and fuel injection.

^^lol, :gtfo:

More horsepower, less weight and still gets raped. He is full of shit and that Mustang is not putting down near what he says it is.

Blown383LS1
06-30-2012, 11:20 AM
Oh, and the Cobra badge on the fender is backwards, lol. Like stated above, looks like a GT with heads, intake and and a b cam.

V8EATR
06-30-2012, 11:20 AM
Two things. 1) 113 trap out of a bolt on gto is not strange or unbelievable. I don't know why people get butthurt about that. 2) that mustang is not making that hp, sorry.

30th t/a
06-30-2012, 11:22 AM
Im interested in knowing how the LS2 put down 371 basically stock. I have a friend with an 06 GTO that made 340 bone stock which is the norm for a LS2.
I just got done reading where GM HighTech Performance just did LTs & CAI on a LS2 GTO & made 375.9/372.7
My 6.0 just made 380/380 (mods in sig)
My Buddys 02 Z06 with LG LT's, Vararam, 3.90s & tune made 371rwhp

Good Kill though!

flattusmaximus78
06-30-2012, 11:30 AM
Im interested in knowing how the LS2 put down 371 basically stock. I have a friend with an 06 GTO that made 340 bone stock which is the norm for a LS2.
I just got done reading where GM HighTech Performance just did LTs & CAI on a LS2 GTO & made 375.9/372.7
My 6.0 just made 380/380 (mods in sig)
My Buddys 02 Z06 with LG LT's, Vararam, 3.90s & tune made 371rwhp

Its base line numbers dude, dynos can throw out all kinds of numbers. No two cars are the same.

That mustang should be an 11.40 car at full weight. Car looked titties though. Got raped though.

85mustang351
06-30-2012, 02:20 PM
bet he is closer to 320-340 hp. 400rwhp isnt the norm out of a 347. It can definately be done but not that guy.

LS1rob00
06-30-2012, 02:26 PM
Nice kill! GTO runs

916 BREDWNR
06-30-2012, 02:32 PM
347 w/ 400rwhp my ass!

That's an 'ol run of the mill H/C 302.

1990LSx
06-30-2012, 02:59 PM
yeah that 347 ran like dog shit. Just like ANY car...a poor setup will show. I know a few 347s that ran high 10s N/A or better in the 120+ mph range.

NightmareTA
06-30-2012, 05:57 PM
^^lol, :gtfo:

More horsepower, less weight and still gets raped. He is full of shit and that Mustang is not putting down near what he says it is.

Oh, and the Cobra badge on the fender is backwards, lol. Like stated above, looks like a GT with heads, intake and and a b cam.

Hey guy...I've known this kid for years. I watched him build his 347...and YES, it is in fact a 347 stroker. He's gone through 2 sets of heads, 2 different intake setups, and changed the cam once. He has been building and playing with the car for a while now. It was tuned at Dez Racing which is a well known mustang shop, and I was there when I saw it make 402 RWHP on a dynojet. It's a real cobra, and it's a real 347 stroker. Don't question me on our races. I don't put BS info up. The car is what it is, believe it or not.

Im interested in knowing how the LS2 put down 371 basically stock. I have a friend with an 06 GTO that made 340 bone stock which is the norm for a LS2.
I just got done reading where GM HighTech Performance just did LTs & CAI on a LS2 GTO & made 375.9/372.7
My 6.0 just made 380/380 (mods in sig)
My Buddys 02 Z06 with LG LT's, Vararam, 3.90s & tune made 371rwhp

Good Kill though!

IDK man, this car is a strong runner. Even our tuner told us that if we were lucky it would make 350 after the tune when it was intake only. He was in disbelief when it made 359 RWHP untuned with just an intake. After the tune it was 371. Guessing it's around 385-390 with the longtubes now...but dynos aren't everything. The track times back it up trapping 113 mph. Just a strong car I guess.

bet he is closer to 320-340 hp. 400rwhp isnt the norm out of a 347. It can definately be done but not that guy.

347 w/ 400rwhp my ass!

That's an 'ol run of the mill H/C 302.

See above comment. It is a 347 stroker....trust me, I am positive. Kid built it from scratch so I know what he's got. A 302 would have gotten it's ass handed to it alot worse than that.

automach1
06-30-2012, 06:13 PM
looks like it makes a solid 280 lol

Blown383LS1
06-30-2012, 09:48 PM
Well maybe he started the race in 5th gear then. That would explain how he got raped with more horsepower and less weight.

JACornell
06-30-2012, 10:09 PM
That was a short vid,, what was the rolling start mph, and what did you race to? What gears are you both running? That might explain some of this.

Heater
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
performs like a 302 with an alphabet cam.



THIS :confused:

s346k
06-30-2012, 11:49 PM
so the gto made 371 BEFORE adding the longtubes that were on it for this race and also the track outing...and the mustang made 400whp. gto trapped 113 and stang trapped 108...?

wow, i think yall got some generous dynos up in there.

good vid, nonetheless. keep the kills coming on these heavily modified, poorly tuned and/or driven ferds. at least that seems to be the common denominator here.

NightmareTA
07-01-2012, 12:57 AM
Well maybe he started the race in 5th gear then. That would explain how he got raped with more horsepower and less weight.

Or maybe it's just the fact that the LSx can never lose... :engarde:

That was a short vid,, what was the rolling start mph, and what did you race to? What gears are you both running? That might explain some of this.

Both cars started in 2nd gear at around 45 mph, and lifted at around 120ish. GTO has stock 3.45 gears and stang has 3.73's.

And to everyone calling BS, you guys way overthink things. If I were to guess a percentage of motors that are built well and run top notch compared to ones that were built half assed and run ok half the time, I'd say the good ones are about 20% of whats out there. The fact is that most kids I've seen with heads/cam 302s, 331s, or 347s run like asshole. Nobody knows how to build them.

Not sure why the car ran as shitty as it did, but I watched it make 400 rwhp last summer, yet now it runs like a turd with no changes. All I care about is that the barely modded GTO has now shnapped off two shit talking stang owners. NEXT! :devil:

Heater
07-01-2012, 01:59 AM
Or maybe it's just the fact that the LSx can never lose... :engarde:



Both cars started in 2nd gear at around 45 mph, and lifted at around 120ish. GTO has stock 3.45 gears and stang has 3.73's.

And to everyone calling BS, you guys way overthink things. If I were to guess a percentage of motors that are built well and run top notch compared to ones that were built half assed and run ok half the time, I'd say the good ones are about 20% of whats out there. The fact is that most kids I've seen with heads/cam 302s, 331s, or 347s run like asshole. Nobody knows how to build them.

Not sure why the car ran as shitty as it did, but I watched it make 400 rwhp last summer, yet now it runs like a turd with no changes. All I care about is that the barely modded GTO has now shnapped off two shit talking stang owners. NEXT! :devil:






Do the math, you know it doesn't add up.

NastyTBSS
07-01-2012, 02:12 AM
Do the math, you know it doesn't add up.

I think he knows it doesn't add up that's what he said he's not sure why the cobra ran as shitty as it did. Iv personally seen 300hp cars beat 400hp cars does that mean the 300hp is faster? No. But anything can happen we all should know that by now. Maybe the cobra saw a honey badger cracking pastatios and got scared.

NightmareTA
07-01-2012, 02:31 AM
Do the math, you know it doesn't add up.

Oh I'm well aware it doesn't add up. It's got him and all his buddies scratching thier heads...problem is they aren't real die hard car guys that would throw it on a dyno to see what was up after that, whereas I would have been at a dyno the next day.

Maybe the cobra saw a honey badger cracking pastatios and got scared.

LMAO!

ScreaminRedZ
07-01-2012, 07:50 AM
wow, i think yall got some generous dynos up in there.

The GTO was on the same dyno I've been using for years, and I've tested it against other Dynojets in the area and it always reads very close. If we just want an ego boost, there's a local shop with a Mustang Dyno that fudges their numbers as long as they work on your car :lol:

Also, the day before the GTO dynoed, my G8 made 357, and right before this GTO dynoed there was another one with bolt-ons, including headers and a FAST intake, that put down 389. He seemed a little disappointed as before he told me he was shooting for 400. I thought the numbers looked good.

I can say that I was there when the GTO was dynoed and we were all surprised. Looking back, it doesn't seem too crazy to me. They've been known to dyno 345 stock, so 358 with a cold air and 371 with a tune doesn't seem way off. My G8 picked up 15 rwhp from a similar cold air system and then another 19 rwhp from a tune (and went over 3 mph faster at the track on a warmer day than it went stock).

When the GTO was stock (my car having bolt-ons) I was able to edge it out, but after he did the cold air and tune he walked me pretty good.

As for the Mustang, I have no personal knowledge of it, but like NightmareTA said, I'd be out the next day trying to figure out what was wrong with it after seeing numbers like that from the track.

HioSSilver
07-01-2012, 08:15 AM
performs like a 302 with an alphabet cam.

Bitemark got it.

A 302 with a abcdefg cam is not gonna trapp 108 in a sn 95 car.

Good kill op.

Mr.Lsx
07-01-2012, 10:16 AM
The sn95 was a turd I had a 302 in a 95 cobra with tfs heads unknown cam and gt40 intake! Trapped 105 with a 4:10 gear! No numbers and no tune! You just dont build a small cube sbf in them cars and expect good results

Heater
07-01-2012, 11:45 AM
The sn95 was a turd I had a 302 in a 95 cobra with tfs heads unknown cam and gt40 intake! Trapped 105 with a 4:10 gear! No numbers and no tune! You just dont build a small cube sbf in them cars and expect good results



You can, but as many have said it's all in the combination of parts.

30th t/a
07-01-2012, 11:56 AM
IDK man, this car is a strong runner. Even our tuner told us that if we were lucky it would make 350 after the tune when it was intake only. He was in disbelief when it made 359 RWHP untuned with just an intake. After the tune it was 371. Guessing it's around 385-390 with the longtubes now...but dynos aren't everything. The track times back it up trapping 113 mph. Just a strong car I guess.

I know dyno's can vary but I will agree that the 371rwhp backed up by the 113 trap speed is right on. Cant agrue with that. Strong car for sure!

adamantium
07-01-2012, 12:08 PM
You said you guys "killed" two mustangs that were talking shit, what shit was this mustang owner talking? Just curious makes it more interesting.

marc97taws6
07-01-2012, 12:10 PM
Definitely an impressive, well driven GTO.

nevrlift13
07-01-2012, 01:48 PM
ass rape.....

NightmareTA
07-01-2012, 04:03 PM
You said you guys "killed" two mustangs that were talking shit, what shit was this mustang owner talking? Just curious makes it more interesting.

Long story short, the eaton swapped mach 1 guy originally tried to swindle us into thinking that he was bolt ons before the race, yet we found out through the grapevine he had a stock eaton. Raced anyways and beat him by about 1-2 cars 4 times in a row. Then they all said "at least theres a red cobra that will lay waste to that GTO." They talked about the cobra like it was godly compared to the GTO all over facebook. Needless to say, I think they need to worship a new breed... :D

adamantium
07-01-2012, 04:53 PM
Long story short, the eaton swapped mach 1 guy originally tried to swindle us into thinking that he was bolt ons before the race, yet we found out through the grapevine he had a stock eaton. Raced anyways and beat him by about 1-2 cars 4 times in a row. Then they all said "at least theres a red cobra that will lay waste to that GTO." They talked about the cobra like it was godly compared to the GTO all over facebook. Needless to say, I think they need to worship a new breed... :D

Pssh wow lol, good kill. Always like hearing the drama behind these vids/stories. Those guys must hate that GTO.

odthetruth
07-01-2012, 05:48 PM
How's the facebook convos been going now, now that you've killed the Cobra and the Mach? We need some screenshots or something of the humble pie eating contest they got going on now. LOL

NightmareTA
07-01-2012, 06:08 PM
How's the facebook convos been going now, now that you've killed the Cobra and the Mach? We need some screenshots or something of the humble pie eating contest they got going on now. LOL

Honestly, there really hasn't been a single word said that I've seen on FB since this race lol. Maybe they gave up? Only other stang in thier group is a turbo terminator that would obviously be out of the GTO's league.

ScreaminRedZ
07-01-2012, 06:32 PM
Honestly, there really hasn't been a single word said that I've seen on FB since this race lol. Maybe they gave up? Only other stang in thier group is a turbo terminator that would obviously be out of the GTO's league.

I hate when there's drama leading up to a race, but just crickets after.

gregsss
07-01-2012, 07:19 PM
Yes...there a problem with that or something? I've seen a few that have trapped very well with bolt ons.



Haha, yea....we didn't get it either. Oh well, thats the price you pay for trying to work with old ass technology and fuel injection. Sometimes it runs good, other times it doesn't. Thats why I ditched my TPI for some LSx power in my 3rd gen!

I agree, hard to beat the new technology or just the LS power. LOL

marc97taws6
07-01-2012, 07:45 PM
I hate when there's drama leading up to a race, but just crickets after.
Why? It is more fun to shut up shit talkers and earn their respect

lablackbeast
07-02-2012, 03:10 AM
Hey guy...I've known this kid for years. I watched him build his 347...and YES, it is in fact a 347 stroker. He's gone through 2 sets of heads, 2 different intake setups, and changed the cam once. He has been building and playing with the car for a while now. It was tuned at Dez Racing which is a well known mustang shop, and I was there when I saw it make 402 RWHP on a dynojet. It's a real cobra, and it's a real 347 stroker. Don't question me on our races. I don't put BS info up. The car is what it is, believe it or not.



IDK man, this car is a strong runner. Even our tuner told us that if we were lucky it would make 350 after the tune when it was intake only. He was in disbelief when it made 359 RWHP untuned with just an intake. After the tune it was 371. Guessing it's around 385-390 with the longtubes now...but dynos aren't everything. The track times back it up trapping 113 mph. Just a strong car I guess.





See above comment. It is a 347 stroker....trust me, I am positive. Kid built it from scratch so I know what he's got. A 302 would have gotten it's ass handed to it alot worse than that.

why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!

Bitemark46
07-02-2012, 08:58 AM
A 302 with a abcdefg cam is not gonna trapp 108 in a sn 95 car.

Good kill op.

Need to broaden your horizons about other cars there hihoe...

108 mph can be done with 300rwhp. You saying a 95 cobra (stock heads are GT40's) with a cam can't trap 108? Hell I did 109mph with 298rwhp at full weight before.

BlackGasGuzzler
07-02-2012, 09:01 AM
why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!
Don't be a baby.

The car is a legit 402whp, have talked with the kid and seen the sheet.

ScreaminRedZ
07-02-2012, 09:38 AM
Why? It is more fun to shut up shit talkers and earn their respect

Because, from my experience, when the guy who was talking shit gets beat and then you don't hear anything from him, you usually find out later that he's telling everyone how he won or you never raced, despite whoever saw it go down and any video. I've got no problem with some shit talking, but at least man up and admit it when you get beat.

marc97taws6
07-02-2012, 09:49 AM
Because, from my experience, when the guy who was talking shit gets beat and then you don't hear anything from him, you usually find out later that he's telling everyone how he won or you never raced, despite whoever saw it go down and any video. I've got no problem with some shit talking, but at least man up and admit it when you get beat.

Ahh, definitely see your point there. I've had that happen a few times and then I'll just be like OK, if you supposedly beat me or my friend's car, why don't you run them again - and then they usually back out so then he comes off as the pansy

why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!
People don't believe you because in the real world of semi-decent drivers, a tune/muffler delete 5th gen is never going to door to door with a 500+rwhp Cobra

evangto87
07-02-2012, 09:50 AM
Well if it made 402whp at Dez Racing, then it should be relatively quick. Thats not a happy dyno by any means. My car made 396whp over there with an air intake (some make 420whp online like that) and a full bolt on 2011 gt made 405 over there. So if it in fact made 402, then hes lacking either proper drivetrain setup or driver mod.

HioSSilver
07-02-2012, 09:57 AM
Need to broaden your horizons about other cars there hihoe...

108 mph can be done with 300rwhp. You saying a 95 cobra (stock heads are GT40's) with a cam can't trap 108? Hell I did 109mph with 298rwhp at full weight before.

I trapped 108 bonestock which should've been around 300whp, so yea it can be done. But a sn95 car with a cam ain't gonna do it. Unless it's got alot of other shit including massive weight reduction. Those car would'nt break 90mph in the 1/4. A lightened notch with bolt-ons and a abcdef cam would barely get there.

LT/LS Guy
07-02-2012, 10:22 AM
Need to broaden your horizons about other cars there hihoe...

108 mph can be done with 300rwhp. You saying a 95 cobra (stock heads are GT40's) with a cam can't trap 108? Hell I did 109mph with 298rwhp at full weight before.

I believe he said alphabet cam. No way is a full weight 95 Cobra trapping 108mph with one of those. And the iron GT-40's weren't that great.

F-Body_4_Life
07-02-2012, 11:16 AM
Heres a vid of another local mustang guy. Him and a few of his buddies were deadset on the fact that his cobra would eat the GTO alive after they had thier dreams smashed when the GTO took the eaton swapped mach 1. Needless to say, the GTO is making quite a name for itself here in town. :D

2006 GTO M6: svede intake, kooks catted 1 7/8" longtubes, tune

1994 cobra M5: built 347 stroker, ported trick flow heads, cam, aftermarket intake manifold, etc.

GTO put down 371 RWHP before the longtubes. Cobra made 402 RWHP...on paper the cobra should be quicker. Don't know what happened. Have to say, it is a pretty clean and nasty looking cobra!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2-TIvSTDZE

That bitch got the Ju1ce mod!!!!

zz4camaro1980
07-02-2012, 12:05 PM
why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!
:cry:


probably because your stories dont make sense.

Ju1ce
07-02-2012, 12:15 PM
performs like a 302 with an alphabet cam.

This is why I wonder why people modify Mustangs :engarde:

Blown383LS1
07-02-2012, 02:19 PM
This is why I wonder why people modify Mustangs :engarde:

Hmmm, less weight, HUGE aftermarket, cheap performance parts, not put together with the cheapest parts known to the automotive industry, rear end that's not made of glass. Those are a few reasons. :engarde:

1_MEANZ28
07-02-2012, 02:21 PM
very impressive bolt on goat.good kill

Bitemark46
07-02-2012, 02:23 PM
This is why I wonder why people modify Mustangs :engarde:


I agree...



























We all should buy GTOs and SPRAY the hell out of them!!!!

odthetruth
07-02-2012, 04:16 PM
why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!

ROFLMAO

Because, from my experience, when the guy who was talking shit gets beat and then you don't hear anything from him, you usually find out later that he's telling everyone how he won or you never raced, despite whoever saw it go down and any video. I've got no problem with some shit talking, but at least man up and admit it when you get beat.

This.

:cry:


probably because your stories dont make sense.

LOL

adamantium
07-02-2012, 04:26 PM
why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBDznulr7mY&feature=fvst

BottleMach
07-02-2012, 06:46 PM
Do the math, you know it doesn't add up.

Maybe he was on an uncorrected dyno, would explain the high numbers, and the performance in the video.

NightmareTA
07-02-2012, 09:40 PM
why does everybody has to beleave you, but never can beleave me.? You always giving me shit about the cars i post, and that i am full of shit right.? well guess what fucker!?!?!?!?!? i dont beleave you until you bring out a dyno sheet or a video of the car dynoing 402rwhp, i proved ALL yal motherfuckers wrong so try to prove me wrong!!!

I'll give you 3 solid reasons why everyone thinks your a bullshitter. Ready?

1. You call your car "el mero camaro"

2. Your a duesh

3. You never accept that the outcomes of the races could be due to bad driving, cars running like shit, or guys not actually making the power they claim to be. Oh, and you never have proof either. Heres mine. better get the lube, your gonna need it...

The car in front of Dez Racing
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/DSC01957.jpg

Vid of the car on the dyno at Dez Racing
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/th_M4H01962.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/?action=view&current=M4H01962.mp4)

And my favorite part, the dyno sheet
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/DSC01963.jpg

So GTFO of here with your BS. Did you miss where I said I was at the shop while he was getting the cobra dyno tuned?? And you really thought I had no proof? :bomb:

automach1
07-02-2012, 10:19 PM
I'll give you 3 solid reasons why everyone thinks your a bullshitter. Ready?

1. You call your car "el mero camaro"

2. Your a duesh

3. You never accept that the outcomes of the races could be due to bad driving, cars running like shit, or guys not actually making the power they claim to be. Oh, and you never have proof either. Heres mine. better get the lube, your gonna need it...

The car in front of Dez Racing
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/DSC01957.jpg

Vid of the car on the dyno at Dez Racing
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/th_M4H01962.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/?action=view&current=M4H01962.mp4)

And my favorite part, the dyno sheet
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/DSC01963.jpg

So GTFO of here with your BS. Did you miss where I said I was at the shop while he was getting the cobra dyno tuned?? And you really thought I had no proof? :bomb:

Dynojet or MD?

Either way car runs like it makes about lol

NightmareTA
07-02-2012, 10:27 PM
Dynojet or MD?

Either way car runs like it makes about lol

Dynojet I believe. I figured it'd do at least 110 mph trap in the 1/4. Don't know what they weigh or anything though. This one is full weight with leather and all power. Has a tubular K and coilovers though so it's gotte be less than stock.

HioSSilver
07-02-2012, 10:44 PM
car should do 116-119 with that kind of power.

lablackbeast
07-03-2012, 02:35 AM
I'll give you 3 solid reasons why everyone thinks your a bullshitter. Ready?

1. You call your car "el mero camaro"

2. Your a duesh

3. You never accept that the outcomes of the races could be due to bad driving, cars running like shit, or guys not actually making the power they claim to be. Oh, and you never have proof either. Heres mine. better get the lube, your gonna need it...

The car in front of Dez Racing
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/DSC01957.jpg

Vid of the car on the dyno at Dez Racing
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/th_M4H01962.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/?action=view&current=M4H01962.mp4)

And my favorite part, the dyno sheet
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/transamman305/DSC01963.jpg

So GTFO of here with your BS. Did you miss where I said I was at the shop while he was getting the cobra dyno tuned?? And you really thought I had no proof? :bomb:
Ok first of all, what Else can I call my camaro??? Are you paying for it or I am?? Is like if I have a kid and want to name "so and so" and just because you don't like it I am going to change it??? Ha!!!! That's a big fuck you right there, second how am I a duesh???? And third when did I never said nothing was wrong with the 502rwhp cobra,??? I mean you seem to be full of shit shit you said car made 402rwhp, but yet the dyno sheet says 400rwhp ..... Lmfao big fail right there, o and why don't you admit your self that something it wrong with that cobra and stop taking credit!!!

Heater
07-03-2012, 02:42 AM
After all the facts have been laid out, looks like the GTO had a good kill. Guess that's why you can't always bench race and say car "A" will out run car "B" because it looks faster on paper.

NastyTBSS
07-03-2012, 02:54 AM
After all the facts have been laid out, looks like the GTO had a good kill. Guess that's why you can't always bench race and say car "A" will out run car "B" because it looks faster on paper.

Telling ya anything can happen on the street!

Bitemark46
07-03-2012, 08:28 AM
Maybe the cobra driver has 1 arm and has to drive and shift?????

evangto87
07-03-2012, 09:06 AM
Ok first of all, what Else can I call my camaro??? Are you paying for it or I am?? Is like if I have a kid and want to name "so and so" and just because you don't like it I am going to change it??? Ha!!!! That's a big fuck you right there, second how am I a duesh???? And third when did I never said nothing was wrong with the 502rwhp cobra,??? I mean you seem to be full of shit shit you said car made 402rwhp, but yet the dyno sheet says 400rwhp ..... Lmfao big fail right there, o and why don't you admit your self that something it wrong with that cobra and stop taking credit!!!

did you really just argue 400 vs 402? O man

Ju1ce
07-03-2012, 09:13 AM
Maybe the cobra driver has 1 arm and has to drive and shift?????

Repeat this over and over to yourself... you might be able to sleep tonight.

zz4camaro1980
07-03-2012, 09:21 AM
Ok first of all, what Else can I call my camaro??? Are you paying for it or I am?? Is like if I have a kid and want to name "so and so" and just because you don't like it I am going to change it??? Ha!!!! That's a big fuck you right there, second how am I a duesh???? And third when did I never said nothing was wrong with the 502rwhp cobra,??? I mean you seem to be full of shit shit you said car made 402rwhp, but yet the dyno sheet says 400rwhp ..... Lmfao big fail right there, o and why don't you admit your self that something it wrong with that cobra and stop taking credit!!!

Its better to let people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt...



OP, nice kill. A good friend of mine has a similar setup on his GTO and that thing moves out. They are great cars all around.

Bitemark46
07-03-2012, 10:09 AM
Repeat this over and over to yourself... you might be able to sleep tonight.

lol. I sleep just fine junior but thanks for your concern. Keep trying to be a Vin Diesel skeet racer yo!

three83'camaro
07-03-2012, 11:00 AM
Good kills hard to believe less horspower and heavier car could take the win but what ever good runs. To bad your not in south texas, i think you and the "el mero maro" would be a good run.

three83'camaro
07-03-2012, 11:02 AM
Wow you type in "m aro, camaro without the ca" and it auto corrects it to camaro, damn auto correct.

Sick LS2
07-03-2012, 11:48 AM
i mainly just lurke here but since i also have a gto i must comment. there is no way that mustang is putting down that much power, i see the dyno sheet but he should certainly trap ALOT higher. i have 361 at the wheels and trap 110mph with just long tubes, cold air intake and a dyno tune.....MASSIVE driver mod needed in the mustang :judge:

Coupe Dave
07-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Dynojet I believe. I figured it'd do at least 110 mph trap in the 1/4. Don't know what they weigh or anything though. This one is full weight with leather and all power. Has a tubular K and coilovers though so it's gotte be less than stock.

How did you figure 110 mph with 400rwhp :confused:

evangto87
07-03-2012, 12:08 PM
im still blaming driver on this... or very bad drivetrain setup (gearing). Dezs dyno is not happy and is always corrected to SAE. Like i said. My car made 396whp on there with an air intake. I ran right next to Alfreds CTSV which trapped 120mph. My car weighed 3650 with me in it when i raced him.

ScreaminRedZ
07-03-2012, 12:09 PM
car should do 116-119 with that kind of power.

I concur.

redtan
07-03-2012, 12:11 PM
there is no way that mustang is putting down that much power, i see the dyno sheet but he should certainly trap ALOT higher. i have 361 at the wheels and trap 110mph with just long tubes, cold air intake and a dyno tune.....MASSIVE driver mod needed in the mustang

I'll jump on this bandwagon too...either the cobra is not really making that power anymore (yes there's a dyno video, but something could've happened to the engine mechanically and it's running worse now) or the driver left it in 5th gear the whole time.

Don't see how a 400rwhp Mustang can get blown out of the water by even a 112mph trapping GTO. Know a kid with some ~380rwhp and he traps 116-117 all day.

Not saying you didn't win the race because you obviously did, but if I were the cobra driver I'd either learn how to drive or really go check my engine out.

evangto87
07-03-2012, 12:19 PM
or just let me drive it ;)

NightmareTA
07-03-2012, 03:56 PM
did you really just argue 400 vs 402? O man

He's gotta try to find any flaw in me and blow it out of proportion. Whatever makes him happy. :eyes:

Good kills hard to believe less horspower and heavier car could take the win but what ever good runs. To bad your not in south texas, i think you and the "el mero maro" would be a good run.

You have no idea how much my brother and I would love to destroy, I mean race his car in the GTO. Too bad its so far.

i mainly just lurke here but since i also have a gto i must comment. there is no way that mustang is putting down that much power, i see the dyno sheet but he should certainly trap ALOT higher. i have 361 at the wheels and trap 110mph with just long tubes, cold air intake and a dyno tune.....MASSIVE driver mod needed in the mustang :judge:

Eh, he's not the best driver but he also isn't too bad. I'm sure something is up, but he'll never throw it back on the dyno after that loss. I wouldn't be surprised if he traded it in now for a new 5.0 or GT500 to be honest with you. :devil:

How did you figure 110 mph with 400rwhp :confused:

I said "at least" 110 mph. And since it's a mustang, it instantly loses 5 mph compared to what a similiar HP LSx would trap. :D

I'll jump on this bandwagon too...either the cobra is not really making that power anymore (yes there's a dyno video, but something could've happened to the engine mechanically and it's running worse now) or the driver left it in 5th gear the whole time.

Don't see how a 400rwhp Mustang can get blown out of the water by even a 112mph trapping GTO. Know a kid with some ~380rwhp and he traps 116-117 all day.

Not saying you didn't win the race because you obviously did, but if I were the cobra driver I'd either learn how to drive or really go check my engine out.

Hey, hey, the GTO trapped 113 mph!! LOL

Both cars were in 2nd gear for the race. And I'm not doubting it's not making 400 RWHP due to an issue...But both the owner and the kid with him said the car felt like it was running fine, and it was consistent with the time and trap speed all 4-5 runs at the track that day, and then it made the hour and 15 minute ride home without a problem. Who knows.

automach1
07-03-2012, 07:33 PM
I said "at least" 110 mph. And since it's a mustang, it instantly loses 5 mph compared to what a similiar HP LSx would trap. :D




lol we know that's not true :engarde: