Cadillac CTS-V - for those who have wrapped your headers?
NIKDSC5
06-30-2012, 08:03 AM
After a search, I have determined that lava wrap is the best. Now I'm curious as to how much you used and how much I will need to wrap my OBX 1 7/8". :usa:
Stoked to finally put these on the car, along with UMI motor mounts.
FuzzyLog1c
06-30-2012, 11:08 AM
I used two 50 foot rolls of two-inch wide DEI wrap. Link:
http://www.amazon.com/DEI-010108-Black-Exhaust-Wrap/dp/B000BRNF68/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1341072437&sr=1-1&keywords=DEI+2%22+wrap
You'll also need to apply at least two cans of high-temperature silicon spray to the wrap after it dries. Link:
http://www.amazon.com/010301-Black-High-Temperature-Silicone-Coating/dp/B000MY3ML8/ref=pd_sim_auto_6
Edit: just realized that Amazon is having a great sale on DEI titanium wrap, which doesn't need silicon spray. Check it out, and don't forget to get lots and lots of stainless steel ties (especially the long ones).
http://www.amazon.com/010127-Titanium-Exhaust-Header-Wrap/dp/B002R4U72I/ref=pd_sim_auto_3
heavymetals
06-30-2012, 12:05 PM
Make sure that when you start it up, you are outside with the hood up.
They will smoke like a brush fire at first.
NIKDSC5
06-30-2012, 12:47 PM
I used two 50 foot rolls of two-inch wide DEI wrap. Link:
http://www.amazon.com/DEI-010108-Black-Exhaust-Wrap/dp/B000BRNF68/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1341072437&sr=1-1&keywords=DEI+2%22+wrap
You'll also need to apply at least two cans of high-temperature silicon spray to the wrap after it dries. Link:
http://www.amazon.com/010301-Black-High-Temperature-Silicone-Coating/dp/B000MY3ML8/ref=pd_sim_auto_6
Edit: just realized that Amazon is having a great sale on DEI titanium wrap, which doesn't need silicon spray. Check it out, and don't forget to get lots and lots of stainless steel ties (especially the long ones).
http://www.amazon.com/010127-Titanium-Exhaust-Header-Wrap/dp/B002R4U72I/ref=pd_sim_auto_3
None of those are the lava wrap that I was asking about? But 2 2" 50' rolls is helpful thank you.
Make sure that when you start it up, you are outside with the hood up.
Oh I know this all too well. when I had my C5 with an sts twin turbo kit I wrapped the entire exhuast to try and help reduce the turbo lag (Minimal at best) I thought I caught the car on fire the first ime I was driving around boosting it. It was wow bad.
They will smoke like a brush fire at first.
NeverSatisfied02
06-30-2012, 01:10 PM
Good luck with the UMI mounts and obx 1-7/8's. Plan to dent the header tube or shave the steering shaft because the header will sit in constant contact with the steering shaft once installed. Those mounts are just slightly shorter than stock and the headers are big so there is little clearance there with both...
And mine aren't wrapped so I even have a little added clearance that u don't. I had to slightly dent the header tube just a tad and I ground the steering shaft down and repainted it to get it to clear.
RADEoN
06-30-2012, 11:23 PM
Good luck with the UMI mounts and obx 1-7/8's. Plan to dent the header tube or shave the steering shaft because the header will sit in constant contact with the steering shaft once installed. Those mounts are just slightly shorter than stock and the headers are big so there is little clearance there with both...
And mine aren't wrapped so I even have a little added clearance that u don't. I had to slightly dent the header tube just a tad and I ground the steering shaft down and repainted it to get it to clear.
mine actually don't touch.
Have any of you seen a difference from doing this?
NeverSatisfied02
07-01-2012, 06:26 PM
Don't know how that's possible. We have the same mounts and headers...
odthetruth
07-01-2012, 06:46 PM
Two rolls of 50 foot. DEI
BudRacing
07-02-2012, 08:07 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Rolls-2-X-50-Titanium-Exhaust-Header-Heat-Tape-Lava-Wrap-w-Ties-/370592183770?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564903f5da&vxp=mtr
Pretty straight forward install.. just try not to fray the ends while you're wrapping. You'll have a couple feet left over. Wear long sleeves and gloves while you're wrapping. This stuff sticks to you just as badly as fiberglass.
lollygagger8
07-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Two rolls of 50 DEI here. I didn't need any spray or anything, just keep it super tight and take your time. It's itchy, but it's worth it. Some people wet it down, but I never did and I've had zero problem with mine.
I used the stainless ties on the small tubes, but a big ass hose clamp on the collector. Nobody can see it, and it works well.
Also (like Heavy said) it'll smoke for a little bit. Don't get freaked out.
BudRacing
07-03-2012, 10:33 AM
I used hose clamps on all the primaries and the collector. They seem much more secure than the zip ties provided. The instructions for lava wrap specifically say wetting is not needed.
shadyLS6
07-03-2012, 10:34 AM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-performance/198451-wrapped-header-sw-3in-exhaust.html
wrapp them or coat them IMO.. +1 on the hose clamps
NeverSatisfied02
07-03-2012, 10:48 AM
Got me tempted to pull mine off and wrap them but I haven't had any issues with them as of yet and they look so pretty under the hood...
shadyLS6
07-03-2012, 10:59 AM
documentation, wrap it up haha
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/whisler151/IMG_0097.jpg?t=1267059646
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-performance/121654-if-you-have-headers-you-may.html
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-performance/131886-have-headers-brake-line-precautions.html
BudRacing
07-03-2012, 11:15 AM
Got me tempted to pull mine off and wrap them but I haven't had any issues with them as of yet and they look so pretty under the hood...
Lava wrap actually looks pretty good. It's got a carbon fiberish look to it.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/GDPossehl/CTS-V/IMG_1630.jpg
NeverSatisfied02
07-03-2012, 11:30 AM
How much does that stuff cost? Is there really an extreme benefit to wrapping as opposed to just leaving them bare?
And how the hell did that happen to that header? Wrapped or not, I think that was unavoidable. Lol
etcts-v
07-03-2012, 12:07 PM
When you go to wrap, keep the wrap in a bucket of water as you wind it up to keep it wet. This will not only help get a tight wrap, but more importantly will keep the damn fiberglass from floating all over your body. Also make sure to wear some latex or mechanics gloves, you'll thank me!
I've always used DEI wrap never tried the lava wrap. You can find it on e-bay for way cheaper than you would buy in the autoparts store. Also like others said, if you spray it with silicone be prepared for a lot of smoke during your first start up! Also you can buy the steel zip ties at Home Depot or Lowes for way cheaper than an autoparts store, $5 for a pack of 10. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202528833/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=steel+zip+ties&storeId=10051
I did 2 50 ft 2" rolls and used hose clamps at the collectors.
BudRacing
07-03-2012, 01:25 PM
How much does that stuff cost? Is there really an extreme benefit to wrapping as opposed to just leaving them bare?
And how the hell did that happen to that header? Wrapped or not, I think that was unavoidable. Lol
The link I posted yesterday has the amount needed shipped together for $90. While the alternator wire that burned through the primary was avoidable, the wrap is that much more insurance. I also heat shielded the starter and its wires, and tied back others. I even went as far as putting heat socks on my spark plug wires for another $30. Burnt wires are my last concern now.
NeverSatisfied02
07-03-2012, 01:51 PM
I had wire socks on my old car. I plan to get some for this one if i do wrap the headers. Pretty sure all the wires under the car are tied back out of the way. Ill have to check the alternator and starter wires. I have some of that heat shield loom i can put on them for added insurance.
odthetruth
07-03-2012, 06:32 PM
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb454/odthetruthv/423547_3017695885052_1342272576_32626280_172007857 9_n.jpg
WeDragBody
07-04-2012, 08:10 PM
@Taylor- dude with our climate wrapping headers is non-benificial due to the moisture that collecta on the headers.. After cool down it runs down to the elbow behind the collector and causes rust holes..