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evolve
06-30-2012, 03:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmJ8-ISYsEU&feature=plcp


evolve
06-30-2012, 03:42 PM
Here is one more...
http://youtu.be/mJlsUL55ht0

Oh4GTO
06-30-2012, 04:04 PM
Is Vin Diesel riding shotgun?


evolve
06-30-2012, 04:50 PM
Is Vin Diesel riding shotgun?

Yep. He was signing autographs as well...jk. It was his first time on a track lol.

redtail2426
06-30-2012, 05:03 PM
im suprised how long it took the gt500 to catch the camaro

evolve
06-30-2012, 05:10 PM
im suprised how long it took the gt500 to catch the camaro

The 500 was in the back at startup. The Z had really bad heat soak issues. That is the second owner driven car that has made the same claim.

kennyxg
06-30-2012, 06:26 PM
That Ferrari was like bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa bwaaaaaaa bwaaaaa! cya!

O-FiveCC
06-30-2012, 06:32 PM
You could tell something happened to the ZL1, he was doing good, even in the straights, until that second video, it was like he was on 6 cylinder's.

evolve
06-30-2012, 07:02 PM
That Ferrari was like bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa bwaaaaaaa bwaaaaa! cya!

That MOFO was out like a boner in sweatpants!!!

evolve
06-30-2012, 07:03 PM
You could tell something happened to the ZL1, he was doing good, even in the straights, until that second video, it was like he was on 6 cylinder's.

Yep. Any stock heaton 03 Cobra person about this one. It is a B**CH!

unit213
06-30-2012, 07:13 PM
The dude riding shotgun is a complete douche bag.

evolve
06-30-2012, 07:20 PM
The dude riding shotgun is a complete douche bag.

lol, give him a break it was his first time at the track:emb:

O-FiveCC
06-30-2012, 07:22 PM
The dude riding shotgun is a complete douche bag.

This. Didn't want to be the first one to say it lol. Dude was a huge douche:gtfo:

BOBS99SS
06-30-2012, 07:25 PM
I think its funny that anyone making fun of that guy prob hasnt been on a track either and probably would act the same way lol,i know i would

O-FiveCC
06-30-2012, 07:30 PM
Been on a track, sure it's cool, but when I know the camera is rolling, I keep my mouth shut

unit213
06-30-2012, 07:38 PM
I think its funny that anyone making fun of that guy prob hasnt been on a track either and probably would act the same way lol,i know i would

Then you too are a douceh bag. :D

1ltcap
06-30-2012, 07:56 PM
did the shelby eventually suffer any heat problems? or did you guys have any issues with the brakes? this is good that we're getting real world input now.

evolve
06-30-2012, 08:48 PM
did the shelby eventually suffer any heat problems? or did you guys have any issues with the brakes? this is good that we're getting real world input now.

None or either lol. From Vans description, the GT500 was "amazing at the track and he hopes to meet the ZL1 when it get those issues addressed". He said the brakes were on point and noticed Ford really put effort into keeping the car cooler than previous PD cars/trucks.

1ltcap
06-30-2012, 09:03 PM
None or either lol. From Vans description, the GT500 was "amazing at the track and he hopes to meet the ZL1 when it get those issues addressed". He said the brakes were on point and noticed Ford really put effort into keeping the car cooler than previous PD cars/trucks.

what about modifications? any?

evolve
06-30-2012, 09:17 PM
what about modifications? any?

New fluids. Thats it. He had a tune, but removed it for this race. Even put the stock tires back on.

evolve
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
Correction to above, the mods were:

GT- email tune(good for ~20rwhp) and new fluids
ZL1- upgraded heat exchanger and better gears.

1ltcap
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
New fluids. Thats it. He had a tune, but removed it for this race. Even put the stock tires back on.

dam, that's cool.

it would be cool to see if he could get a race with the camaro not having problems. but then again, if the camaro's stock, and i thought you mentioned that that camaro driver was the second or third that's said te same thing about heat problems?

evolve
06-30-2012, 09:57 PM
It seems to be common in the Z, unless youre a magazine driver...

GTOSE
06-30-2012, 11:03 PM
I said a 10 second car.

Not a 10 minute car.

firebird99
07-01-2012, 03:59 AM
New fluids. Thats it. He had a tune, but removed it for this race. Even put the stock tires back on.

Wonder how much changing to better fluids would help a car like the gt500 especially the brake fluid and coolant.

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evolve
07-01-2012, 08:31 AM
wonder how much changing to better fluids would help a car like the gt500 especially the brake fluid and coolant.

Evolve check out my new sig.......rotflmao!!!!!!!

Thats what Im talkin bout :D

1ltcap
07-01-2012, 09:32 AM
Wonder how much changing to better fluids would help a car like the gt500 especially the brake fluid and coolant.

Evolve check out my new sig.......ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

THAT'S IT!!!! YOU'RE GENIUS!!!!!!

all the camaro owner has to do, is to change his fluids too!!!!:engarde:

jmurray87
07-01-2012, 10:13 AM
Full Video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTU5r5sK9E&feature=player_embedded

evolve
07-01-2012, 10:25 AM
Another update: Erik at Torq just said the were running high boost. He didnt specify, but he said much higher than stock.

1ltcap
07-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Another update: Erik at Torq just said the were running high boost. He didnt specify, but he said much higher than stock.

that kinda sucks....would've been more interesting to see stock to stock......

Julio_BOSS
07-03-2012, 12:02 AM
This is at homestead :) I love that track. What time did u hit? Did u go to the may 22 hpde with NASA by any chance?

firebird99
07-03-2012, 05:16 AM
THAT'S IT!!!! YOU'RE GENIUS!!!!!!

all the camaro owner has to do, is to change his fluids too!!!!:engarde:
Lol........this guy always looking for a chance to spoon someone. I was talking about all fluids to help the car and it's parts run cooler and brake better since there was a issue that could have been a car specific problem and not as a whole.(brakes)
Another update: Erik at Torq just said the were running high boost. He didnt specify, but he said much higher than stock.

Ahh... guess their upgraded cooler cant keep up with (much) higher boost levels but I guess you could still call it R&D for him. Guess its time to go back and try again.

1ltcap
07-03-2012, 08:12 AM
Lol........this guy always looking for a chance to spoon someone. I was talking about all fluids to help the car and it's parts run cooler and brake better since there was a issue that could have been a car specific problem and not as a whole.(brakes)


Ahh... guess their upgraded cooler cant keep up with (much) higher boost levels but I guess you could still call it R&D for him. Guess its time to go back and try again.

:devil::devil:

the thing here though, is how(if the other guy felt the need to put a better heat exchanger on his zl) did the magazines not notice this problem, whilst at the same time noticing serious braking problems, that so far, as of one report don't exist?
and when you thnik of it, the 013 uses nearly the same braking system as the zl, so being slightly lighter, those problems should be gone.

Camaro Z
07-03-2012, 11:56 AM
Anything done to the Torq car? Seems like its decently even on the straights (until the heatsoak issue), more than I thought it would be anyways.

1ltcap
07-03-2012, 12:02 PM
Anything done to the Torq car? Seems like its decently even on the straights (until the heatsoak issue), more than I thought it would be anyways.

it looked like the shelby was closing the gap......VERY VERY slowly on the straights, before the heatsoak problem. what did surprise me, was that it looked like the shelby was closing the gap faster in the turns, also before the heatsoak issue.

i wonder if this heatsoak issue had anything to do with the delay in delivering them a few months ago? or if it's gonna be a common problem, that the magazine writers just happened to miss.

1ltcap
07-03-2012, 12:31 PM
Lol........this guy always looking for a chance to spoon someone. I was talking about all fluids to help the car and it's parts run cooler and brake better since there was a issue that could have been a car specific problem and not as a whole.(brakes)


Ahh... guess their upgraded cooler cant keep up with (much) higher boost levels but I guess you could still call it R&D for him. Guess its time to go back and try again.

ALmost forgot....at least you've got a good enough line on me to know when i'm screwing around now. :cheers:

firebird99
07-04-2012, 06:16 AM
:devil::devil:

the thing here though, is how(if the other guy felt the need to put a better heat exchanger on his zl) did the magazines not notice this problem, whilst at the same time noticing serious braking problems, that so far, as of one report don't exist?
and when you thnik of it, the 013 uses nearly the same braking system as the zl, so being slightly lighter, those problems should be gone.

Not to take away from the driver or the car but after thinking about it the only time the "brake fade" came into to play was with a pro driver beating it on a much harder track then homestead that doesn't have the long straights to allow time to cool. Like I said no bashing just tossing around some ideas.

Now for the heat soak issue we now know that it was with "much" higher boost levels so I'm sure he's trying his hardest to test his product which judging by this might need some tweaks. I'm curious to see what happens to the GT500 when they start turning up the boost on track days might have the same problem and since it's not the same as the older gt500 we can only hope it can keep things in check.
ALmost forgot....at least you've got a good enough line on me to know when i'm screwing around now. :cheers:
Yeah we bumped heads early on but we have come to a common ground well sorta were both cars guys but you drive a girls car.....LOL..JK... or am I?:punch:

1ltcap
07-04-2012, 02:05 PM
Not to take away from the driver or the car but after thinking about it the only time the "brake fade" came into to play was with a pro driver beating it on a much harder track then homestead that doesn't have the long straights to allow time to cool. Like I said no bashing just tossing around some ideas.

Now for the heat soak issue we now know that it was with "much" higher boost levels so I'm sure he's trying his hardest to test his product which judging by this might need some tweaks. I'm curious to see what happens to the GT500 when they start turning up the boost on track days might have the same problem and since it's not the same as the older gt500 we can only hope it can keep things in check.

Yeah we bumped heads early on but we have come to a common ground well sorta were both cars guys but you drive a girls car.....LOL..JK... or am I?:punch:


go back and look at the articles again. virtually every reviewer mentioned brakes. even that ignition guy, before they took it to arizona for randy pobst to drive. but then again, pobst didn't mention braking problems there.

snoops
07-04-2012, 05:24 PM
I would guess probably better off not even wasting your time pullying the Z with heat soak hitting that fast and hard. Just get it over with and put a bigger supercharger on that thing already!!!!!

1ltcap
07-04-2012, 08:41 PM
rather than start yet another thread on this.......vid i just found of lethal performance shelby vs torq's zl1. mods are listed under video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh6F4hfbTYo

firebird99
07-05-2012, 06:07 AM
rather than start yet another thread on this.......vid i just found of lethal performance shelby vs torq's zl1. mods are listed under video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh6F4hfbTYo

Yeah I think it's been said that he sucks at drag racing and was trying to get used to making a few passes but has yet to run all out I just can't remember which thread it was that they talked about it. Most likely it would still lose but it wouldn't run slower then stock hell you can tell he didn't even leave hard.

1ltcap
07-05-2012, 07:47 AM
Yeah I think it's been said that he sucks at drag racing and was trying to get used to making a few passes but has yet to run all out I just can't remember which thread it was that they talked about it. Most likely it would still lose but it wouldn't run slower then stock hell you can tell he didn't even leave hard.

yea, but it's the easier car to drive, according to the "unbiased" magazines. that should make up for the drivers lack of ability. :engarde: