Drag Racing Tech - 18" kirkey seat fitment
SuperSlow02
06-30-2012, 04:17 PM
Long story short, looks like I'm stuck with my 18in seat, does anybody have installed pictures? Without attaching it to my racecraft brackets(17in, wrong size). It looked like it wouldn't fit very well in a fbody....
chevelledave
07-01-2012, 11:10 AM
you can space the lower mounting between the floot bracket and the seat bracket ...1/2 inch spacer on both sides ..or just mount the brackets and bolt through the floor ,,instead of using the factory studs
SuperSlow02
07-01-2012, 02:13 PM
Thanks a bunch, I was actually looking at doing that but was sure.... 18" seat is a squeeze in there
DopeFedZ
07-01-2012, 06:06 PM
18s fit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/9secZ28/Formula/newpics2.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/9secZ28/Formula/Picture062psd.jpg
tektrans
07-01-2012, 06:20 PM
Interior looks fantastic Carlos-always liked your car. :D
I had 18's as well.
SuperSlow02
07-01-2012, 06:57 PM
Thank you very much for the pic! My dumb ass was going to mount the seat bracket backwards! LOL...woulda figured it out eventually
studderin
07-01-2012, 07:42 PM
If you need the alum spacers, race craft will sell you just them
SuperSlow02
07-01-2012, 08:02 PM
Good to know, I need to order my front dzus rails and hardware anyways
89ROC-Z
07-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Carlos, how are the seats without the cage to mount them too? Any issues with them flexing too much?
alexcoreas
07-02-2012, 10:01 AM
My phone is showing me a vagina, is this true or am I imagining things.
Very nice interior
DopeFedZ
07-02-2012, 02:12 PM
Carlos, how are the seats without the cage to mount them too? Any issues with them flexing too much?
None at all for me and I'm a pretty big fella. I know the proper way would be for the back to be braced against a roll cage though.
chasgiv3
07-02-2012, 02:54 PM
I installed an 18" seat over the Winter. Tight fit but fits just fine. I have a full cage so the rear of my seat has a bracket bolted through it and secured to the crossbar.
flyinZ
07-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Im glad I found this thread. I've got a Kirkey Pro Street seat 17" that Id like to install, but I kinda lost on how to bolt in the Racecraft brackets and the seat. Anybody help me with that? Any insight on it would be greatly appreciated.
SuperSlow02
07-02-2012, 11:20 PM
It's honestly up to you. Place the seat part on the side of the seat, mark your holes where you want them and drill. I set my first hole towards the front 2 1/8th" front the button and 1in front the bottom. Drew a straight line to the back of the seat and lined up the rear mounting hole and drilled the hole back there. The lower brackets will only go in one way btw
flyinZ
07-04-2012, 07:31 AM
You wouldn't by chance have a pic for reference would ya? I think I know what you mean, but pics just help more.
SuperSlow02
07-04-2012, 10:01 AM
I'll get some today for ya
studderin
07-04-2012, 11:42 AM
I posted some pics in my build thread.
Put the seat brakets on the floor, and the seat kinda slids down inside them, so its not gona move side to side. Use some 2x4 and 4x4 blocks under it to get the tilt right. get a friend to help you get in out of the car to hold the seat form bending the brackets up. when you have it about what you think you like just shapie the outside holes, and dirll them. The inside your gona have to trace the top profile of the race craft brakets, then line that back up outide the car.
Cool think about the seats being alum. in you can bend them to fit your door bar, with a creanst wrench.
then drive the car around the block or somthing and move them one hole (up down, tilt, back, and see what you like. SO when you drill how holes try to remebed to place them so you can use the racecraft holes with room to move them up/down. Dont drill your holes right on the end of somthing so you can;t adjust to the other holes. If its possible, I know some guys are big and run the seat on the floor super low, or all the way back. But I dont like driving like Im in mexico or 14 years old looking over the door, or some ganster lean back in the back seat shit.
passanger seat can get tight then tunnle kicks out for the exhust. and if you run a center concel it gets tight. I ground a little flat in the braket. and hammers a little flat in the corner of the passanger seat to get it back all the way like my driver. If you wnated you could cut a little teat drop shape of the the seat corner and weld a plate of the corner to get it back even more if you need. My 17s were tight, 18s I htink that would be a big help, getting it between the wolf low door bar, and the center concel.
studderin
07-04-2012, 11:47 AM
http://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-tech/1068545-cam-only-winter-upgrades-bitch-diet-8.html
I'll organize this better later, done working on it tonight. Its easier to just take a pic of somthing then remeber what it weighed later. Got the seats in with the racecraft rails driver is great, passanger I'm gona look into it more and maybe change the braket so I can move the seta back a little, and lower it that what I have to work with.
I found a good spot to drill the holes in the kirkey seat, that might work for other guys? ****edit the 3 1/4 -12 3/8th holes I ended up changing. I'll update a better hole place ti use later***** Thouse holes mout the seat all the way up and tipped back a confortable amout. Not getto 3rd gen west coast style. But close to my normal 24/7 street postion, and still close for the track. Wrist brake just at the wheel, I'm 6,0 180 I can put my helmet on fine with the Ttops in, and have room. But Nick@ newera that did the welding said he'd like the seat a little lower for how it is with the hoop. He wants it under it more, good thing with these seats there high backs. I can't see my head hitting the hoop. So I might not need to pad it. The padding on my bolt on wolfe with the stock seats, blocked the rear view mirror. But the wolfe door bars fit fine I didnt know what seats I was gona run when I welded it in. I just had to bend the front lower bump in the seat a little so your not jamming the seat in and ripping the cover up. It was 17 and the bare seat was pressed on the doorbar. Bent in it to 16.5 and it has room the cover dosn't get pinched. I was happy with that. Seat are really nice I few guys set in them. Mike at New era was even talking on the phone for about 10mins on some calls didnt wnat to get out of the car. :lol:
And you can lower the set with the braket holes still (cover rasing you in the seat so test fit with the cover on). And move it back a lot, the bolts are lower in the seat so you're not going to feel them. I dilled this and got the driver seat mint, still working on the passanger for more room.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/DSC02651.jpg
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And sence I started listing other weight on stuff I took these. I can use this to organize this weight better later
Kirkey seat cover 2.455#'s (17inch, black cloth/tweed , each)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/DSC02632.jpg
Racecrafter kirkey seat brackets 6.045#'s Bolt In style, 1 driver 1 passanger (pair)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/DSC02630.jpg
RJS 5point harness, camlock 5.805#'s (each)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/DSC02633.jpg
Kirkey 17" prostreet/drag with cover and racrcraft brakets 17.545 #'s (each)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/DSC02636.jpg
Put the interior back, fit the carpet one day. The drove like 80miles to buffalo NY for some street racing, that night. Seats feel great, was about a 1hr... 15min ther and back same night. Carpet fits great, I'm gona get a piece of darker grey orzites for the top of the gas tank, an sow it to the carpet with a seam. That light greay was all walmart had.
cutting the holes in the speed inc. carpet
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some "finished" pics I took tonight
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/IMG_3271.jpg
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read the later pages. I htink I loved the seats form the pic of the holes? I painted them and they look alot better too. No raw alaum. the black hammer paint. looks bad ass
flyinZ
07-04-2012, 04:37 PM
Thank you very much. Pictures help a bunch and with your previous experience, that helps too.
SuperSlow02
07-04-2012, 04:59 PM
Studderin should be the new install sticky mod lol
studderin
07-04-2012, 11:00 PM
make a seat back, I drove around for like 2 years without one, I wouldn't do it again. If you get in a muilt hit crash, and the seat bends a little (its going to) and you get loose in the harnesses, there going to beat you up bad. And could get under bones, and joints and stuff and really hurt,cut,rip into you bad.
my cars not even that fast, like high 120s street car. I thought the seat was stiff. 1st drive after the seats fixed back, hit and and pull some gears, feels like a different car. Your way more soild in the car, dont even realize the seat moves back. Its safer, and I fell alot better for controlling the car, getting crossed up and sideways rolling burnouts. You get better input to keep the car strait.
flyinZ
07-05-2012, 07:01 PM
One guy posted back on the 2nd page about a bolt-on brace, that goes from the seat to the rollbar. Would that be a custom thing or is that a common bracket, that I can buy?
DopeFedZ
07-05-2012, 10:12 PM
http://www.autopowerindustries.com/seatbrace.asp
http://www.ioportracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SBB15&Category_Code=IH
flyinZ
07-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Thanks!
flyinZ
08-14-2012, 11:07 PM
To bring this back up, could anybody explain how the bottom(black) bracket bolts on? I think I know, but it doesn't seem to fit properly. Any advice on this?
CamaroRacing12
11-15-2012, 05:43 PM
Anyone have a tough time installing the brackets to the floor? Do u need to remove the carpet?
CamaroRacing12
11-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Im an idiot. That is all.