Group Purchase Requests - Aster Bracket

I have seen a few GP on the aster bracket. seems like it was pretty easy to sell...considering how many people need them. have talked with bob about it and he says that hes just about caught up.

Im one of the ones that needs one

In depending on discount

i need one as well...

What is an Aster bracket?

This is an Aster bracket: http://shop.brutespeed.com/Aster-Auto-Spring-Loaded-Tensioner-Bracket-for-98-02-F-Body-Aster-Bracket.htm

I need one too. A discount would be nice.

Need one too

I'll see what I can do. Thanks. Bob

I'll see what I can do. Thanks. Bob

awesome. I am ready to make my order as soon as I hear from you. Ill check back here periodically. Thanks Bob.

What is an Aster bracket?


Ill explain personally in hopes that you will buy one.....

It is a bracket that holds the procharger much like the J bracket does, but with a few additions custom made onto it to limit belt slip and maybe even bearing failures.

When a procharger begins spinning at these super high rpm, the belt begins to move so fast that it stretches. . When this slippage occurs, things such as loss in boost pressure, thrown belts, etc. etc....and basically lower horsepower become a common issue at boost levels over 10-12lbs.

A sudden loss in ET/MPH at the track if your not constantly tightening it manually which is annoying.

The aster bracket, is the solution to these belt issues commonly associated with prochargers. Eliminate this issue and they are damn near hassle free, and with forced induction, that is a rare thing.

The main thing that makes it better is it has an auto spring loaded tensioner on it much like the one used to keep your belt taught against the water pulley, crank pulley etc.....so as the belt begins to stretch now, this tensioner keeps it tight,...giving you the full benefit of the blowers potential.

For example......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRvT92fR65A


and just for shits and giggles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9OGLuiTs-Q

pretty sweet vids!

yeah i figure one of the main selling points of anything if to show the products and how they work in action. im going to call bob again tomorrow and see how this is looking. i have heard no guarantees, but it looks as if I am not the only one whos been considering getting one.

yeah i figure one of the main selling points of anything if to show the products and how they work in action. im going to call bob again tomorrow and see how this is looking. i have heard no guarantees, but it looks as if I am not the only one whos been considering getting one.

We're going to do it, Chris is checking with the machine shop before we do it. I'll post it up asap. Thanks. Bob

Pm me I want in.

mwahahahaha i cant wait. like I said, I got some cash burning a damn hole in muh pocket. I wonder if this comes with new standoffs or if ill need to order some new ones. i sold most of them with my old j bracket....and the others are....well........around.

tick tock.

tick tock.

I'll have it going this morning asap. Thanks everyone! Bob

I am a natural so I dont need one, thanks for the explanation though!

Chad

I am a natural so I dont need one, thanks for the explanation though!

Chad

You lost me there. Bob

tick tock.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-group-purchases/1564308-aster-bracket-group-purchase.html#post16505929
Here you go. Thanks. Bob

Pm me I want in.

I just sent you a pm. Thanks. Bob

Need one too

http://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-group-purchases/1564308-aster-bracket-group-purchase.html#post16505929

Here you go, thanks. I just sent you a pm. Bob

Im one of the ones that needs one

I just sent you a pm. Thanks. Bob

In depending on discount

I just sent you a pm. Thanks. Bob

i need one as well...

I just sent you a pm too. Thanks. Bob

Hi Bob!

My 427 is naturally aspirated, so if I am reading the description of the bracket correctly (I didnt know what it was) it is just for Supercharged motors. Did I read that right?

Chad

Hi Bob!

My 427 is naturally aspirated, so if I am reading the description of the bracket correctly (I didnt know what it was) it is just for Supercharged motors. Did I read that right?

Chad


Yes you are indeed correct, that makes sense to me now. I wasn't sure earlier, I thought maybe I didn't understand what you said because I wasn't running on all eight cylinders yet. Bob

No worries Bob!

Chad

I pm'd every person that said they needed one just in case they dont make it back to the GP section. i am going to check and see right now if FI section has it there, and if not make sure all those guys are aware as well.

I pm'd every person that said they needed one just in case they dont make it back to the GP section. i am going to check and see right now if FI section has it there, and if not make sure all those guys are aware as well.

Thanks, I appreciate it! Bob

We had a lot of interest in a group purchase on the Aster Bracket and so far only two guys have paid for them. Please step up and help get this group purchase moving, thanks! Bob

I never got a PM. Also, the 5% (3/4 tank of gas) discount is decent, but not a huge incentive. I'll see what I can scrape together.

I never got a PM. Also, the 5% (3/4 tank of gas) discount is decent, but not a huge incentive. I'll see what I can scrape together.

I am sorry about that, somehow you got missed. 5% to us seems like all the money in the world, as the profit margin on these brackets is very slim.

Thanks. Bob

this bracket will go nicely with the f1-a. thanks bob.

Why should I have to buy an after market part to make the setup that ProCharger recommend work properly??? I was told the 8-rib setup would not slip and it does.

Does ProCharger offer any solutions to what seems to be an epidemic? If I'm replacing their parts with something else do you think I can return their parts for a refund?

I feel disappointed that a brand new, professionally installed system doesn't work properly. Am I the only one?

Why should I have to buy an after market part to make the setup that ProCharger recommend work properly??? I was told the 8-rib setup would not slip and it does.

Does ProCharger offer any solutions to what seems to be an epidemic? If I'm replacing their parts with something else do you think I can return their parts for a refund?

I feel disappointed that a brand new, professionally installed system doesn't work properly. Am I the only one?



They have always slipped. You do not have to buy the bracket. They offer cog setups for extreme applications. Ours would probably fall into the category for street cars, but they do not offer anything like this and fortunately we have Chris out there to save the day and make the seutp efficient. Procharger has got the setup down other than the bracket and the placement of the head unit.

Why should I have to buy an after market part to make the setup that ProCharger recommend work properly??? I was told the 8-rib setup would not slip and it does.

Does ProCharger offer any solutions to what seems to be an epidemic? If I'm replacing their parts with something else do you think I can return their parts for a refund?

I feel disappointed that a brand new, professionally installed system doesn't work properly. Am I the only one?


At how much boost? The stick ProCharger J Bracket doesn't give problems at 8 to 12 psi, but you do have to keep the blower belt much tighter than you do with other belts. A new belt will stretch, and after an hr of use, you need to retighten a new belt. Bob

At how much boost? The stick ProCharger J Bracket doesn't give problems at 8 to 12 psi, but you do have to keep the blower belt much tighter than you do with other belts. A new belt will stretch, and after an hr of use, you need to retighten a new belt. Bob

I’m only running 11 pounds of boost with a 3.85 pulley and a 400 belt - and it's VERY tight.

Here's some more background for you:

I e-mailed ProCharger many days ago, and got no response, so a called two days ago to discuss the slippage and was told I should have bought a “cog drive.” I was then put on hold and when the gentleman came back on the line I was told an alternative solution would be to have some custom bracing made the attached to one end of the “J” bracket and something that pivots with the engine, “like the strut tower brace.” I asked about the Aster bracket and was then put on hold again so the person I was speaking with could ask around about the Aster bracket and to see if there were any other solutions.

Apparently no one at ProCharger had heard of an Aster bracket, but they were going to call me back later the same day to offer additional solutions, but no one called back.

I called again yesterday to ask the same question (i.e., what is the solution for belt slippage for my setup?) and was told that all I needed to do was send my pulley to Carbiniteracing.com for coating.

On top of this people are telling me that I shouldn’t have to do anything if I’m only running 11 lbs. of boost and others are telling me I need the Aster bracket.

I wish there was some consensus as to what needs to be done and that ProCharer was much more knowledgeable and responsive.

Do you still think I should just drive the car for a bit and retighten? Do you sell the Aster bracket?

Thanks!

Jason

I’m only running 11 pounds of boost with a 3.85 pulley and a 400 belt - and it's VERY tight.

Here's some more background for you:

I e-mailed ProCharger many days ago, and got no response, so a called two days ago to discuss the slippage and was told I should have bought a “cog drive.” I was then put on hold and when the gentleman came back on the line I was told an alternative solution would be to have some custom bracing made the attached to one end of the “J” bracket and something that pivots with the engine, “like the strut tower brace.” I asked about the Aster bracket and was then put on hold again so the person I was speaking with could ask around about the Aster bracket and to see if there were any other solutions.

Apparently no one at ProCharger had heard of an Aster bracket, but they were going to call me back later the same day to offer additional solutions, but no one called back.

I called again yesterday to ask the same question (i.e., what is the solution for belt slippage for my setup?) and was told that all I needed to do was send my pulley to Carbiniteracing.com for coating.

On top of this people are telling me that I shouldn’t have to do anything if I’m only running 11 lbs. of boost and others are telling me I need the Aster bracket.

I wish there was some consensus as to what needs to be done and that ProCharer was much more knowledgeable and responsive.

Do you still think I should just drive the car for a bit and retighten? Do you sell the Aster bracket?

Thanks!

Jason

...I should also add that I have an 8-rib setup.

I’m only running 11 pounds of boost with a 3.85 pulley and a 400 belt - and it's VERY tight.

Here's some more background for you:

I e-mailed ProCharger many days ago, and got no response, so a called two days ago to discuss the slippage and was told I should have bought a “cog drive.” I was then put on hold and when the gentleman came back on the line I was told an alternative solution would be to have some custom bracing made the attached to one end of the “J” bracket and something that pivots with the engine, “like the strut tower brace.” I asked about the Aster bracket and was then put on hold again so the person I was speaking with could ask around about the Aster bracket and to see if there were any other solutions.

Apparently no one at ProCharger had heard of an Aster bracket, but they were going to call me back later the same day to offer additional solutions, but no one called back.

I called again yesterday to ask the same question (i.e., what is the solution for belt slippage for my setup?) and was told that all I needed to do was send my pulley to Carbiniteracing.com for coating.

On top of this people are telling me that I shouldn’t have to do anything if I’m only running 11 lbs. of boost and others are telling me I need the Aster bracket.

I wish there was some consensus as to what needs to be done and that ProCharer was much more knowledgeable and responsive.

Do you still think I should just drive the car for a bit and retighten? Do you sell the Aster bracket?

Thanks!

Jason


The Aster bracket is something we offer, so I can see why whoever you talked to at ProCharger may not know what you were referring to. ProCharger doesn't offer a cog drive for the 98-02 F Body, it wasn't an option that you could of gone with anyway when you bought your system. The belt needs to be as tight as a guitar string, and if you are using the stock ProCharger supplied air filter, that may be part or all of your problem. It is possible at 11 psi for the filter to be too restrictive, and I have seen it cause belt slippage. To see if the filter is part of the problem, try making several runs with it off in a clean area. Watch your boost gauge if you have one, as you may end up making several more psi of boost, which could lean it out. I sell a larger air filter that will fit in place of the stock filter. Here is a link to it. http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-AF056I-009-35-inlet-x-60-dia-base-diameter-x-900-long-ATI-AF056I-009.htm

Here is the link to the Aster bracket. http://shop.brutespeed.com/Aster-Auto-Spring-Loaded-Tensioner-Bracket-for-98-02-F-Body-Aster-Bracket.htm

Thanks. Bob

The Aster bracket is something we offer, so I can see why whoever you talked to at ProCharger may not know what you were referring to. ProCharger doesn't offer a cog drive for the 98-02 F Body, it wasn't an option that you could of gone with anyway when you bought your system. The belt needs to be as tight as a guitar string, and if you are using the stock ProCharger supplied air filter, that may be part or all of your problem. It is possible at 11 psi for the filter to be too restrictive, and I have seen it cause belt slippage. To see if the filter is part of the problem, try making several runs with it off in a clean area. Watch your boost gauge if you have one, as you may end up making several more psi of boost, which could lean it out. I sell a larger air filter that will fit in place of the stock filter. Here is a link to it. http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-AF056I-009-35-inlet-x-60-dia-base-diameter-x-900-long-ATI-AF056I-009.htm

Here is the link to the Aster bracket. http://shop.brutespeed.com/Aster-Auto-Spring-Loaded-Tensioner-Bracket-for-98-02-F-Body-Aster-Bracket.htm

Thanks. Bob

Very interesting point about the air filter; at what RWHP do you think the ProCharger filter starts to become restrictive? Right now I'm at 666 RWHP (on a Dyno Jet) with a speed density tune - too much air is apparently flowing to use the MAF to tune.

Very interesting point about the air filter; at what RWHP do you think the ProCharger filter starts to become restrictive? Right now I'm at 666 RWHP (on a Dyno Jet) with an air density tune - too much air is apparently flowing to use the MAF to tune.

I'd say you have to be at the point where that filter can be too small. Bob

I'd say you have to be at the point where that filter can be too small. Bob

Thanks for the great tips and links. Can you also tell me, why does a restrictive air filter make the belt slip?

oh and the other great thing about prochargers for ours car , the overheating , procharger was useless with me when i said you sell a shitty product , it overheats in the summer, you use one fan and it cant keep up . So i added a second and it helps for sure . But just another case of how bad the setup is for the 98-02 fbody . I wish they would redesign it or make the aster or sdce type setup standard.

Thanks for the great tips and links. Can you also tell me, why does a restrictive air filter make the belt slip?

You're welcome. A restrictive filter puts a load on the blower as it can't get enough air, which causes the belt to slip as the engine rpm increases. Bob

You're welcome. A restrictive filter puts a load on the blower as it can't get enough air, which causes the belt to slip as the engine rpm increases. Bob

If I buy this filter and pick up a couple pounds of boost won't I have to worry about belt slippage anyway? 11 lbs + 2 = 13.

You're welcome. A restrictive filter puts a load on the blower as it can't get enough air, which causes the belt to slip as the engine rpm increases. Bob

If I buy this filter and pick up a couple pounds of boost won't I have to worry about belt slippage anyway? 11 lbs + 2 = 13.

Bob,

Do I need to order an Aster bracket and filter then?

Thanks!

Jason