Street Racing & Kill Stories - Ported/Pullied Cobra destroys my WS6

So after watching Sonnen get his face pounded in by Anderson Silva. I left the UFC party and drove by a local In N Out. Saw a bunch of cars there, seemed like mostly fox bodies.

I roll up and see this beautiful black Termie. I small talk with some of these guys for a bit, and met the owner of the Terminator. Chill guy that was down to run for fun.

His mods were: Pullied upper and lower, ported Blower, and full exhaust tune and suspension but with street tires. He dynoed around 500 rwhp I believe.

My car is an 02' 6 speed WS6 with stock 3.42's.
My mods: Small cam, lid, headers, and Nitto 555r's... Dynoed 390/365

I knew I would get beat, but just wanted to see by how much,. And who knows, maybe heat soak tactics might have helped ??? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpMovydpJQ

Started in the wrong gear on the first run, second run was a more accurate outcome of what it SHOULD look like.

Result: I lost by about a solid bus length if not more, from 40-130
I stayed even a bit at first, probably due to his lack of traction.

Damn bro.... Double Homicide!

Sounds like you are a good sport man... :usa:

Damn bro.... Double Homicide!

Sounds like you are a good sport man... :usa:

Its all in fun... the first run was a throw away run, i was in the wrong gear 3rd at 45 mph... Second run was better.. 2nd gear at 45mph.

Some ported heads, gears, and other bolt ons for me would make it interesting.

That was one Bad termie though, lol.

You need a cutout and heads.

Lol del paso in n out? Black termi on black fr500's? Ported eaton huh? Lol that's my busy Matt. You got bus length'd for good reasons, and a stick ported blower isn't one of them. Lol

Lol del paso in n out? Black termi on black fr500's? Ported eaton huh? Lol that's my busy Matt. You got bus length'd for good reasons, and a stick ported blower isn't one of them. Lol

Yup, that was him. Lol.

Care to share those "good reasons"? Do i smell Whipple?

Owwwww, lol. Damn Jason...my pride would hurt after that haha.

Whipple 2.9, meth... And ya street tires lol

kind of funny people would lie about HP on just a friendly run

kind of funny people would lie about HP on just a friendly run



LoL, kinda like downplaying mods.

Whipple 2.9, meth... And ya street tires lol

Damn nice deaths. Sounds like someone has some explaining to do. That has to be easily a 650rwhp car with close to equal torque. Shit maybe more that depending on his set-up.

Owwwww, lol. Damn Jason...my pride would hurt after that haha.

I knew going in I was outgunned, so not so much...bud damn that thing moves out, lol. Rob I don't even think your driving skills could do much here, lol.

Whipple 2.9, meth... And ya street tires lol

Well that explains the freight train. Maybe some TEA Heads and a 200 shot might even things up :devil:

Damn nice deaths. Sounds like someone has some explaining to do. That has to be easily a 650rwhp car with close to equal torque. Shit maybe more that depending on his set-up.

When people say "nice deaths" am I suppose to say thank you? lol, But yeah 650 rwhp is a few notches up on the totem pole.

I sure as hell went down swinging, but went down hard.

kind of funny people would lie about HP on just a friendly run

Not so much funny, more so pathetic...

That kind of person lies to make himself feel better about his car... its pretty weak and sad actually...

Nice shifting!:drive:

3rd gear @ 45? wtf. i think 2nd gear at 45 sucks in a 342 car.

i was thinking that car made more than 500whp...he peaced the fuck out when he caught traction.

i really don't see the bad side of racing like that. "friendly" runs should be just that. there should be no shame in losing unless you're racing a heads up class or something. otherwise, the playing field is wide open (as this guy proved) and these are street cars, not race cars.

i've been gettin my ass kicked lately in regards to racing. oh well. i can't be mad about something i have little investment tied up in. after i do some modding i might feel differently haha.

Not so much funny, more so pathetic...

That kind of person lies to make himself feel better about his car... its pretty weak and sad actually...
Ya hmmm Whippled/Meth Cobra vs 390whp LS1 ya thats a great race lol, I mean I could see if the dude just wanted to test out his car but even then dont lie about your HP/Mods that much

Sometimes that's how it rolls on the street.

Im glad i read all the comments first. Because i was about to post this long as shpeal about how that car def is NOT an eaton car. The whine shouts whipple. And him peacing out the instant he gets traction on your car was a good sign as well. If that was a good running eaton car, you prob would have lost by about 2-3 cars assuming he got traction.. if he didnt, he might just edge you out.

Freeway looks familiar. LOL

OP did Keith tune your car?

kind of funny people would lie about HP on just a friendly run

Yeah, that's fucking dumb. What difference does it make if it's a friendly run? Any time anyone has asked about my car I've told them and showed a graph. If someone's faster, cool. You have a faster car. There will always be someone faster out there too. I've told everyone I don't race for money so idc if they know.

Honestly OP, if that was a whipple'd cobra, you did very well. I would have expected a lot worse of a defeat.

When people say "nice deaths" am I suppose to say thank you? lol, But yeah 650 rwhp is a few notches up on the totem pole.

I sure as hell went down swinging, but went down hard.

If you killed him then I would say "Nice kill"! Instead you did the honorable thing and posted a kill on yourself which is better than some. Then you found out how you were definitely outmatched.

Apparently people have forgotten the basis of 'street racing' and 'run what ya brung'

When u walk up to someone eating a burger and ask wana run, what would u do? Lol everyone needs to chill the fuck out...

OP I'm a force fed car as well. You should come out with us some time...

Yes the cobra is right at 640rw. He also has a magazine fox with ~900rw. He's got some toys..

Apparently people have forgotten the basis of 'street racing' and 'run what ya brung'

When u walk up to someone eating a burger and ask wana run, what would u do? Lol everyone needs to chill the fuck out...

OP I'm a force fed car as well. You should come out with us some time...

Yes the cobra is right at 640rw. He also has a magazine fox with ~900rw. He's got some toys..

Agreed, at the end of the day its just for fun and hanging out with other enthusiasts talking cars.

Yeah Billy over at ForceFed tuned my car, ive been going to Forcefed for the past 11 years with my LT1s and LS1s.

Im down to roll out with you guys every once in a while.

well i wouldnt downplay my car 152whp lol, thats playing somebody. But w/e not like it was for money

Yeah, that's fucking dumb. What difference does it make if it's a friendly run? Any time anyone has asked about my car I've told them and showed a graph. If someone's faster, cool. You have a faster car. There will always be someone faster out there too. I've told everyone I don't race for money so idc if they know.

Honestly OP, if that was a whipple'd cobra, you did very well. I would have expected a lot worse of a defeat.

Thanks man, when i watched the replay on the second run I thought I hung pretty good for how outgunned I was. Not sure if most people read that the first run was a throw away run, as I was in the wrong gear.

Either way I got my ass handed to me, but still had fun and it just motivates me to improve the performance even more. Money pit FTMFW!!! lol

If you killed him then I would say "Nice kill"! Instead you did the honorable thing and posted a kill on yourself which is better than some. Then you found out how you were definitely outmatched.

That's a good way to look at it.

well i wouldnt downplay my car 152whp lol, thats playing somebody. But w/e not like it was for money

lol, yeah I hear yah...152 rwhp is a lot to downplay. Most of the guys on the scene though are typically modest and coy about what they have... just maybe not by 152 rwhp ahhaha. Like I said though, it's all in fun.
One of those "I don't give a fuck" moments where I'll run John Force for fun. :usa:

Nice shifting!:drive:

Thanks man, still a work in progress. Now it's time for a shift light to get even more out of it.

damn bro,time for some good heads ,bigger cam,cut out..lol

Ya good shifting for sure. He was in 3rd both runs from what he wa telling me. He was just having fun with you, he's really not a dick lol PM me your # I'll let you know next time we go out...

Here's his fox if anyone's interested.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/pics-videos-buffet-149/812095-my-tf-fox-made-cover-mm-ff-january-2012-a.html

Apparently people have forgotten the basis of 'street racing' and 'run what ya brung'

When u walk up to someone eating a burger and ask wana run, what would u do? Lol everyone needs to chill the fuck out...

OP I'm a force fed car as well. You should come out with us some time...

Yes the cobra is right at 640rw. He also has a magazine fox with ~900rw. He's got some toys..

This! Matt is one of the people who doesn't hide his mods at all. He openly tells everyone what his makes/runs. He's a stand up guy and when he told me about this run this morning over the phone we were just cracking up. Also almost 95% of the people i run into with modded cars LIE about mods. You guys who are bitching about not telling what he had act like money was on the line.

LOL... Sounds like the OP is being a good sport, but a few others are getting a lil butt hurt for nothing? Matt is a good buddy of mine & is definitely a stand up dude. This was all in good fun, & also sounded like he got called out so he decided to make it a lil more interesting.

jthunderz28, I wonder how your WS6 would stack up against my CTS-V?

This! Matt is one of the people who doesn't hide his mods at all. He openly tells everyone what his makes/runs. He's a stand up guy and when he told me about this run this morning over the phone we were just cracking up. Also almost 95% of the people i run into with modded cars LIE about mods. You guys who are bitching about not telling what he had act like money was on the line.

I'm sure he is a cool guy, but I just don't get why you would make shit up in a friendly race with no money on the line? I just don't get it. What's the point? Saying your car is less modded than it really is will do what for you? People try that shit with me all the time and it's annoying. Some tool bag tried telling me his LS1 Fbody just had an exhaust when it clearly had a gigantic cam too... When I had my stock formula out.

Thanks man, when i watched the replay on the second run I thought I hung pretty good for how outgunned I was. Not sure if most people read that the first run was a throw away run, as I was in the wrong gear.

Either way I got my ass handed to me, but still had fun and it just motivates me to improve the performance even more. Money pit FTMFW!!! lol

Heads/100 shot would reverse the outcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGFxYqK-mUU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Ya good shifting for sure. He was in 3rd both runs from what he wa telling me. He was just having fun with you, he's really not a dick lol PM me your # I'll let you know next time we go out...


Yeah it was all in fun, and I know he's not a douche'.I think folks insinuate things too quickly from him not being more vocal about his mods. lol, I really didn't care to be honest. Everyone there I talked to was pretty cool, lol, especially when a lone F-Body just rolls up on everyone out of nowhere.
Hahahha, that was priceless. It was just a spur of the moment thing on the way home.

This! Matt is one of the people who doesn't hide his mods at all. He openly tells everyone what his makes/runs. He's a stand up guy and when he told me about this run this morning over the phone we were just cracking up. Also almost 95% of the people i run into with modded cars LIE about mods. You guys who are bitching about not telling what he had act like money was on the line.

Yeah everyone there was pretty laid back and chill. Good times for sure.

LOL... Sounds like the OP is being a good sport, but a few others are getting a lil butt hurt for nothing? Matt is a good buddy of mine & is definitely a stand up dude. This was all in good fun, & also sounded like he got called out so he decided to make it a lil more interesting.

jthunderz28, I wonder how your WS6 would stack up against my CTS-V?

Only one way to find out :devil: I've gone a best of 12.5xx at 112. But from a roll it could be a drivers race.

PM sent.

I'm sure he is a cool guy, but I just don't get why you would make shit up in a friendly race with no money on the line? I just don't get it. What's the point? Saying your car is less modded than it really is will do what for you? People try that shit with me all the time and it's annoying. Some tool bag tried telling me his LS1 Fbody just had an exhaust when it clearly had a gigantic cam too... When I had my stock formula out.

I heard the owner of the trans am was being somewhat cocky. I heard he was trying to pick on a stock 2004 mustang gt lol.

One thing I forgot to add after talking to Matt earlier. There was a bone stock 2004 GT out there that night. Well on his way to In and Out burger this same WS6 was revving up and taunting him, then dowshifting and punching it on this Stock GT. So the GT raced him anyways and got destroyed with his 220 rw. Well the O.P must have seen where the GT exited the freeway and came back. He seen all the cars in the parking lot and came in all cocky barking his exhaust. Immediately he went up to the group of guys asking who owned the Cobra because he wanted to race it for MONEY. Well while Matt was eating his burger across the parking lot the owner of the stock GT told him the story of the WS6 taunting him. So Matt figured fuck it, payback is a bitch lol. Plus the guy came up to him assuming it was an Eaton car, He never asked if it was Whippled or anything else.

So the O.P has 390 rw picking on a 220 rw car that didnt want to run. Thats 170 rw difference. Matt lied about his numbers so he could give the O.P some of his own medicine. Thats how the game gets played fellas. Dont pick on cats and not expect to get picked on back...

I heard the owner of the trans am was being somewhat cocky. I heard he was trying to pick on a stock 2004 mustang gt lol.


hahaha, I did see that car on the way home and busted a U-Turn to investigate.
I actually chatted with Joe the owner after for a good while, cool dude.

I didn't know it was stock, it sounded loud and looked lowered...yah never know.

I guess Karma came full circle and annihilated me. lol, let's not confuse confident and assertive with cocky though. :)

If you don't downplay your mods on the street, you're doing it wrong.

I'm sure he is a cool guy, but I just don't get why you would make shit up in a friendly race with no money on the line? I just don't get it. What's the point? Saying your car is less modded than it really is will do what for you? People try that shit with me all the time and it's annoying. Some tool bag tried telling me his LS1 Fbody just had an exhaust when it clearly had a gigantic cam too... When I had my stock formula out.

Only one reason to do it, to frustrate who ever they puppy kick.

Some 4.10's in the rear would help you out quite a bit.

That and some heads and spray.

Only one way to find out :devil: I've gone a best of 12.5xx at 112. But from a roll it could be a drivers race.

PM sent.

Yeah, I think it would be a decent matchup. My car makes a bit more power, but yours has the weight advantage. My trap was close to the same, but my ET sucks because CTS-V's aren't that great at the strip, & everyone knows they have the shittiest rear end known to man so I never launched the car hard off the line.

One thing I forgot to add after talking to Matt earlier. There was a bone stock 2004 GT out there that night. Well on his way to In and Out burger this same WS6 was revving up and taunting him, then dowshifting and punching it on this Stock GT. So the GT raced him anyways and got destroyed with his 220 rw. Well the O.P must have seen where the GT exited the freeway and came back. He seen all the cars in the parking lot and came in all cocky barking his exhaust. Immediately he went up to the group of guys asking who owned the Cobra because he wanted to race it for MONEY. Well while Matt was eating his burger across the parking lot the owner of the stock GT told him the story of the WS6 taunting him. So Matt figured fuck it, payback is a bitch lol. Plus the guy came up to him assuming it was an Eaton car, He never asked if it was Whippled or anything else.

So the O.P has 390 rw picking on a 220 rw car that didnt want to run. Thats 170 rw difference. Matt lied about his numbers so he could give the O.P some of his own medicine. Thats how the game gets played fellas. Dont pick on cats and not expect to get picked on back...

Wow, I'll end it here. Not here to start drama, but this couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth.

The owner of the stock GT and I revved back and forth in good fun, prior to the meet location. I did a flyby to see if he was game, and he was. I beat him pretty bad and went on my way. I wouldn't say it was taunting, lol, more of gauging interest. And how am I suppose to know which cars are stock when they are loud as hell mustangs that are lowered? Lol

I rolled in pretty quietly, small talked with the fox guys, see the cobra. Asked who owned. Walked up to Matt and asked him how they normally race,lol, I don't street race. I jokingly asked him what people normally race for 1000 bucks. And he and I both agreed we'd prefer fun runs. We laughed and shook hands after the race and I revved when leaving, who doesn't rev their car for fun???

It's amazing how things get perceived differently and you have no idea until the next day. It was good vibes and that's unfortunate that they saw me as some cocky A-hole, lol. I'm the furthest thing from that. It's funny how people are face to face vs when you leave....

With that said, I will bow out of this thread.

Epik just went from cool at the top of the thread to a tool five posts later... what gives?

Wow, I'll end it here. Not here to start drama, but this couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth.

The owner of the stock GT and I revved back and forth in good fun, prior to the meet location. I did a flyby to see if he was game, and he was. I beat him pretty bad and went on my way. I wouldn't say it was taunting, lol, more of gauging interest. And how am I suppose to know which cars are stock when they are loud as hell mustangs that are lowered? Lol

I rolled in pretty quietly, small talked with the fox guys, see the cobra. Asked who owned. Walked up to Matt and asked him how they normally race,lol, I don't street race. I jokingly asked him what people normally race for 1000 bucks. And he and I both agreed we'd prefer fun runs. We laughed and shook hands after the race and I revved when leaving, who doesn't rev their car for fun???

It's amazing how things get perceived differently and you have no idea until the next day. It was good vibes and that's unfortunate that they saw me as some cocky A-hole, lol. I'm the furthest thing from that. It's funny how people are face to face vs when you leave....

With that said, I will bow out of this thread.
typical mustang owners..u should spray and smoke his ass

First of all fellas, let me clear things up, Matt caught wind of this thread & wanted me to reply in his words what went down that night, I was too busy to post at the time so I let him log in under my screen name. I wasn't there that night, & I can careless what happened, but those were his words in the post. I know he can register here with his own name, but why would he join "LS1Tech" if he owns 2 Mustangs???


Epik just went from cool at the top of the thread to a tool five posts later... what gives?

Ok, that is a bit out of line. Calm down with all of that, you don't know me & this is only the Internet bud don't get all bent out of shape over a post that really didn't say anything negative about the OP at all, it simply stated the other parties side of the story that night. Like I stated I wasn't there, I have no clue what went down other than the video & hearsay.

typical mustang owners..u should spray and smoke his ass

I will be the 1st to say this, coming from being an ex new edge Mustang owner (& not a Cobra) it is usually quite the contrary. Most of the time the LSX owners would be the ones that would hate on the Mustang guys since they always knew they had the upper hand power wise...


Wow, I'll end it here. Not here to start drama, but this couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth.

The owner of the stock GT and I revved back and forth in good fun, prior to the meet location. I did a flyby to see if he was game, and he was. I beat him pretty bad and went on my way. I wouldn't say it was taunting, lol, more of gauging interest. And how am I suppose to know which cars are stock when they are loud as hell mustangs that are lowered? Lol

I rolled in pretty quietly, small talked with the fox guys, see the cobra. Asked who owned. Walked up to Matt and asked him how they normally race,lol, I don't street race. I jokingly asked him what people normally race for 1000 bucks. And he and I both agreed we'd prefer fun runs. We laughed and shook hands after the race and I revved when leaving, who doesn't rev their car for fun???

It's amazing how things get perceived differently and you have no idea until the next day. It was good vibes and that's unfortunate that they saw me as some cocky A-hole, lol. I'm the furthest thing from that. It's funny how people are face to face vs when you leave....

With that said, I will bow out of this thread.

I'm not here to start any drama either, if I was, why would I reply to you in a PM about setting up a friendly race with my Cadi? it's really not that serious & sounds like Matt's reply under my screen name was taken the wrong way. I think he was just trying to state the way it was perceived by the other guys out there, who knows, like I said I wasn't there.... Sorry if things were taken the wrong way, but that was not anyones intentions at all... I am still willing to do that friendly run with my Cadi, even though most likely the outcome will be in your favor. All in good fun...

Heads/100 shot would reverse the outcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGFxYqK-mUU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Was that a whipple car?

To some people, no matter how cool the person in the other brand car is...they are a douche.

People lying about and downplaying their mods happens all the time. It's the way it has always been, everybody wants people to think that they have less than they really do.

Was that a whipple car?

Yeah. 2.9 whipple

Yeah. 2.9 whipple

Good job! You may have had him covered on motor.

I was gonna say, thats def not a 500whp cobra lol. 500whp cobras are nothing impressive either.

kind of funny people would lie about HP on just a friendly run

LoL, kinda like downplaying mods.

Not so much funny, more so pathetic...

That kind of person lies to make himself feel better about his car... its pretty weak and sad actually...

HAHA! There's a few people who actually do that crap here in the Bay Area.

To some people, no matter how cool the person in the other brand car is...they are a douche.

People lying about and downplaying their mods happens all the time. It's the way it has always been, everybody wants people to think that they have less than they really do.

:nod: I can understand if the race is for money, but people do that around here and the runs are just for fun. Oh well... maybe they don't want other people copying their set ups or something.

:nod: I can understand if the race is for money, but people do that around here and the runs are just for fun. Oh well... maybe they don't want other people copying their set ups or something.

If you don't do it on ALL your runs... Why do it on some?

Word will spread.

I was gonna say, thats def not a 500whp cobra lol. 500whp cobras are nothing impressive either.



Yeah, Cobra's are over rated.

Yeah. 2.9 whipple

I doubt the OP would do what you did to that cobra even if he got heads and a 150 shot. But he can try lmfao.

If you don't do it on ALL your runs... Why do it on some?

Word will spread.

That's for sure lol. Honestly tuners talk as well so there is really no way to keep a setup a secret unless you tune your own car. I know someone who was hiding some mods and the person who he bought the parts from and tuner told others and word got out lol. I thought it was pretty damn funny actually.

I doubt the OP would do what you did to that cobra even if he got heads and a 150 shot. But he can try lmfao.

So whats that cobra trap high 130s?

Matt doesn't hide his mods. "IF" his story regarding the OP was true, then he was just giving him a taste of is own medicine for messing with the much slower 2V GT... If it wasn't true, then it was all in good fun.

Anyhow, Matt just recently installed the whipple on his car & it has yet to see the strip, but we will know what it runs on Aug 21st.

As far as comparing a Z06 vs. Cobra, & a WS6 vs. Cobra, these are 2 VERY different comparisons. A WS6 weighs almost 500 lbs more than a C5 Z06, which makes a HUGE difference in the outcome of a race.

I doubt the OP would do what you did to that cobra even if he got heads and a 150 shot. But he can try lmfao.

THIS^^^ is the TRUTH!

So whats that cobra trap high 130s?

I would guess around 130 would be the norm for a whippled cobra.

I would guess around 130 would be the norm for a whippled cobra.

I dont see why he thinks an f-body would need more than heads,cam and nitrous for that lol. A bit cocky there.

Matt doesn't hide his mods. "IF" his story regarding the OP was true, then he was just giving him a taste of is own medicine for messing with the much slower 2V GT... If it wasn't true, then it was all in good fun.

Anyhow, Matt just recently installed the whipple on his car & it has yet to see the strip, but we will know what it runs on Aug 21st.

As far as comparing a Z06 vs. Cobra, & a WS6 vs. Cobra, these are 2 VERY different comparisons. A WS6 weighs almost 500 lbs more than a C5 Z06, which makes a HUGE difference in the outcome of a race.

My z06 weighs 3150 and I'm pretty sure my formula weighs like 3400 or somewhere around there. Yeah, theyre not totally equal, but I'd be willing to bet he'd still beat him with a set of heads and a 100 shot. I have ported 243's on mine... And that was with me on street tires rolling into the throttle. Maybe a 125 shot for him, but still, it is what it is. I expected much worse of a beating if that was a 2.9 whipple cobra.

problem with street racing is its just that... Street racing...

who knows... he could be sand bagging even more than he did by saying it was a pulley ported eaton... it might be a 2.3 car... it might be a 3.4 car on 11lbs...

who effing knows but the owner... IF he even knows...

Nobody is being cocky, you guys are making this a big deal just because that chevy lost lol. I don't know if you guys missed the part where the OP himself said his car traps around 112 with 390rwhp. It should be trapping a little more. Like i said not all cars run the same. For these actual 2 cars the ws6 probably needs 700rwhp to run even with the cobra lol. I think he was running the same times or worse then a bolt on ws6. Im not trying to be a dick but it is what it is.

His car should be knocking on the 120 door with 390rwhp.

I would guess around 130 would be the norm for a whippled cobra.

High 130's or more for a properly setup 2.9L Whipple car. 138mph should be no problem.

Nobody is being cocky, you guys are making this a big deal just because that chevy lost lol. I don't know if you guys missed the part where the OP himself said his car traps around 112 with 390rwhp. It should be trapping a little more. Like i said not all cars run the same. For these actual 2 cars the ws6 probably needs 700rwhp to run even with the cobra lol. I think he was running the same times or worse then a bolt on ws6. Im not trying to be a dick but it is what it is.

Yeah i agree 112 is mild bolt on territory. But usually the Heads/Cam nitrous setups i see are 130-139mph cars. One down here on a 200shot decimated a 137mph GTR from a roll, all on stock bottom end. That's why i said he's a bit cocky if he thinks a heads/cam nitrous setup wouldn't be enough.

Their gonna need race gas, meth or e85 to get to that. I'm figuring the guy was on pump. My friends fully built 03 runs around 140. We're talking ported heads, cams, fuel system, straight axle and all the goodies. I think he has a 3.4 whipple and makes about 700 on pump. It's not "easy" for them to trap 138.

Yeah i agree 112 is mild bolt on territory. But usually the Heads/Cam nitrous setups i see are 130-139mph cars. One down here on a 200shot decimated a 137mph GTR from a roll, all on stock bottom end. That's why i said he's a bit cocky if he thinks a heads/cam nitrous setup wouldn't be enough.
The owner of the cobra hasn't said that because he knows nothing about the trans am. That was me saying heads/spray won't be enough.
Their gonna need race gas, meth or e85 to get to that. I'm figuring the guy was on pump. My friends fully built 03 runs around 140. We're talking ported heads, cams, fuel system, straight axle and all the goodies. I think he has a 3.4 whipple and makes about 700 on pump. It's not "easy" for them to trap 138.

FYI i saw a 04 cobra with 600rwhp 2.3 whipple go 10.3@133 in 95 degree heat with the d/a being around 2700. The only weight reduction is drag wheels and a solid axle. My other friends 630rwhp trapped 132-133 in a more then full weight 04 cobra. The 2.9 should go mid to high 130's IF once again IF it's driven properly.

The owner of the cobra hasn't said that because he knows nothing about the trans am. That was me saying heads/spray won't be enough.


For you to say that it takes more than heads and nitrous to beat said cobra is a little bit misleading when there are f-bodies trapped 130-140mph with Heads and Nitrous.

Do you know anything about OP's trans am other than what's in his sig? do you have any idea how his car would react to nitrous? every car is different in response to mods, and saying something without factual data is stupid(not saying that you are)

that's probably why your statement would sound cocky for some people.

All I know is LS motors love the gas.

For you to say that it takes more than heads and nitrous to beat said cobra is a little bit misleading when there are f-bodies trapped 130-140mph with Heads and Nitrous.

Do you know anything about OP's trans am other than what's in his sig? do you have any idea how his car would react to nitrous? every car is different in response to mods, and saying something without factual data is stupid(not saying that you are)

that's probably why your statement would sound cocky for some people.

:eyes: ok

Dang, I didn't know there were any 500hp termies left.

Dang, I didn't know there were any 500hp termies left.


Ported Eaton cars

Thanks but I know all about those cars. Just saying cobras around here are mostly north of 600. If eaton is still there, it probably doesn't have anymore than 650. Most of em have kenne bells, whipples, or twins, and if u want to play u better have 700 or more.

A bus length? More like a train length...

Thanks but I know all about those cars.



A lot of people on here do not...

Thanks but I know all about those cars. Just saying cobras around here are mostly north of 600. If eaton is still there, it probably doesn't have anymore than 650. Most of em have kenne bells, whipples, or twins, and if u want to play u better have 700 or more.

what eaton cobras do you know of that make anything close to 650?? A strung out ported eaton barely nears anything over 500... and even thats not the easiest thing.

Sounds like ricer math

Anything that isn't worried about a healthy H/C setup with a nice shot on it has a pretty nasty street car. Should be 135mph all day long.

what eaton cobras do you know of that make anything close to 650?? A strung out ported eaton barely nears anything over 500... and even thats not the easiest thing.

2 of em around here, 1 at 550 another at 630. Not saying its easy or recomended as their IATs are hot, blower is out of effeciancy and certain detenation is on the horizon. Def not something I would be a party of.

2 of em around here, 1 at 550 another at 630. Not saying its easy or recomended as their IATs are hot, blower is out of effeciancy and certain detenation is on the horizon. Def not something I would be a party of.

If they are blower only (no nitrous), I'm calling BS on the 550 and straight impossible on the 630.

Any proof? Track times to back it up? Full list of mods?

As far as I'm aware there are ZERO Eaton cars at that level. The most I have ever seen was in the 51X range, I'm sure there might be a few in the 52X range but anything higher than that and I would have to see proof. 630 just isn't happening, that is 100+ more Rwhp than 99% of other "maxed" out Eaton cars.

Whoa Evan I have seen some Steigy Eatons do low 500s without juice. They did have cams,big TBs,aftermarket elbows,chiller killer etc on them...

Anything that isn't worried about a healthy H/C setup with a nice shot on it has a pretty nasty street car. Should be 135mph all day long.

I'm with ya on that. NA guy myself. Pros and cons to both setups but I prefer mega cubes.

If they are blower only (no nitrous), I'm calling BS on the 550 and straight impossible on the 630.

Any proof? Track times to back it up? Full list of mods?

As far as I'm aware there are ZERO Eaton cars at that level. The most I have ever seen was in the 51X range, I'm sure there might be a few in the 52X range but anything higher than that and I would have to see proof. 630 just isn't happening, that is 100+ more Rwhp than 99% of other "maxed" out Eaton cars.

I'm sorry that u haven't run across any but they are out there. Albeit not many cause its absolutely stupid to push an eaton that far. And yes cams, heads, meth or e85 was included.

Whoa Evan I have seen some Steigy Eatons do low 500s without juice. They did have cams,big TBs,aftermarket elbows,chiller killer etc on them...
Absolutely... But how many have you seen hit or clear 530Rwhp? Let alone another 100Rwhp more than that.
I'm sorry that u haven't run across any but they are out there. Albeit not many cause its absolutely stupid to push an eaton that far. And yes cams, heads, meth or e85 was included.

Out of all the years I have been a member on SVT I have never seen or heard of it.. I don't even think the fastest Eaton car in the world (blower only) makes that much power.

I just don't see it happening... I would be interested to even see proof of 1 making 550Rwhp, let alone another 80Rwhp over that.

You not only have 1 in your area making unbelievable numbers but 2 and the second I think 99% of people would say that is impossible (granted the dyno wasn't screwed.

What do they run?

I can believe 550Rw with proof if it is a perfect combo. I can not believe 600+.

EDIT:

After research two have hit 600+... One exactly 600 and the other 608... Nobody else has come even remotely close to that with documentation.

These were (1 was a shop car) race gas/prepped for dyno/full bolt ons head work cams/etc etc on "happy" dynos going from what everyone is saying.

The way you drive the car on the street and not a generous dyno, you won't see anything close to that. Looks like with head work, cams, race gas 540Rw is doable with perfect conditions but not likely.

Have no idea what they run cause theu haven't been to the track. I have seen the dyno sheet from a tuner in northern IN. Dyno #'s may be off don't know because I never use him I go to detroit. Just relaying what I seen.

Absolutely... But how many have you seen hit or clear 530Rwhp? Let alone another 100Rwhp more than that.


Out of all the years I have been a member on SVT I have never seen or heard of it.. I don't even think the fastest Eaton car in the world (blower only) makes that much power.

I just don't see it happening... I would be interested to even see proof of 1 making 550Rwhp, let alone another 80Rwhp over that.

You not only have 1 in your area making unbelievable numbers but 2 and the second I think 99% of people would say that is impossible (granted the dyno wasn't screwed.

What do they run?

Never seen one do 530 or more. Have seen 520 out of a Stage 5 one with cams,killer chiller etc..

Never seen one do 530 or more. Have seen 520 out of a Stage 5 one with cams,killer chiller etc..




Same here.

I don't know these guys that well. Everytime I've seen em I've been in my truck. Sooner or later ill run into em with car and see how respectable those numbers are. Believe me, I can't wait as they are always rodding around like they own the town. Crap maybe they do. One thing for sure they won't own me when we line up.

e85 and a port will put you well over 550rwhp. Not sure if he was using it tho.

Never seen one do 530 or more. Have seen 520 out of a Stage 5 one with cams,killer chiller etc..

Over 530 with a port is uncommon (except for happy dynos). It is possible, but with almost every bolt on to support the "heaton".

e85 and a port will put you well over 550rwhp. Not sure if he was using it tho.

If it is as easy as that why are not more 550+Rwhp Eaton cars not running around?

e85 and a port will put you well over 550rwhp. Not sure if he was using it tho.

It just isnt gonna happen, and if it does itll be for all of 3 seconds before the IATs cause the computer to pull enough timing out to drop it down to 450rwhp.

It just isnt gonna happen, and if it does itll be for all of 3 seconds before the IATs cause the computer to pull enough timing out to drop it down to 450rwhp.

We got one smart guy here! A eaton isn't really efficient after about 500rwhp. Yeah they can make the power but IMHO a pullied ceaton runs the best. I have never really been a fan of ported blowers. After a pulley a twin screw is the way to go.

A ported Eaton is good to around ~520. Any 550rwhp number is simply a generous dyno. My '03 put down 520/517 w/ a Stg V Steigy, FULL bolt-ons, SRA...ran low 10's with a 75-shot and weight reduction. Still have the slips I believe.

We got one smart guy here! A eaton isn't really efficient after about 500rwhp. Yeah they can make the power but IMHO a pullied ceaton runs the best. I have never really been a fan of ported blowers. After a pulley a twin screw is the way to go.

Don't be fooled. Some Ported Heaton cars can run. My old car would've given many in here the fits!

Don't be fooled. Some Ported Heaton cars can run. My old car would've given many in here the fits!

Yeah i know, i just don't like ported blowers. Your's had nitrous to keep things cool haha. :) BTW nice S63 my cousin just bought one and it's an amazing whip.

A ported Eaton is good to around ~520. Any 550rwhp number is simply a generous dyno.

Agreed....and I don't believe there has ever been a legitimate 600rwhp
Eaton. There were some shenanigans with that JDM car IMO.

Ported Eaton cars

Agreed....and I don't believe there has ever been a legitimate 600rwhp
Eaton. There were some shenanigans with that JDM car IMO.

I guess we should all go back to Eatons. LOL!

Yeah i know, i just don't like ported blowers. Your's had nitrous to keep things cool haha. :) BTW nice S63 my cousin just bought one and it's an amazing whip.

Thanks sir. :cheers:

Agreed....and I don't believe there has ever been a legitimate 600rwhp Eaton. There were some shenanigans with that JDM car IMO.

I'm with you. No way that car was making that kind of power with an Eaton. :eyes:

Get a bigger cam and a good set of heads and do it over. My friend has an 04 Cobra with the same mods and my car beats him by a good 2-3 cars every time. He has a good 50rwhp on me but those cars are heavy.