Street Racing & Kill Stories - SRT8 Jeep gives my 402 a helluva roll race
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 10:04 AM
First and foremost: no vids, sorry fellas. Been filming my drive to work every day for 3 weeks now but today I left it in the glove box. :bomb:
Ran a pre-2012 SRT8. Guy gave me a surprisingly good run on the freeway in multiple 70-100'ish runs and a 75-160+ where his brick wall JEEP got faster as the speeds increased! Most runs I was chasing him - just how it had to work to be safe.
The 75-160+ run went thus:
~me behind his dark red SRT8 in the far right lane passing a small cluster of cars~
'wow that's a long stretch of clear road ahead - not counting the few cars in the far left lane. I need to get side by side' I think.
But it's not to be as he changes lanes after I already starting changing lanes, causing me to cover the brakes just as he goes WOT! My nerves on a hair trigger, almost shaking from the adrenaline in me manage to only let him get a truck length ahead before my car is screaming after him and his weird sounding exhaust.
'ok his pull is stopped' I think to myself, then the little fear of losing that resides high up in your chest whenever you race recedes as I reclaim the car lead he stole from me. 'phew!'
More confident now, I reach for my blinker just as we pass a car going sane speeds and the physics of the moment hit me: 'I can't see around his SUV and we are hauling ass'. I decide to stay behind him. Not that it mattered, because to my surprise - almost shock - I find that I am suddenly WOT and not gaining on him now and we are in the triple digits!
My trans managed to shift into overdrive with only a blip of the throttle (it's been an issue) and now my speedo just swept past 160mph and I still aint gaining on this TRUCK! WTF?! I let out and get on the brakes and he quickly follows my lead, ending our last and best run.
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 10:48 AM
I tried signing up on the SRT8 forums but haven't got a confirmation email yet. Want to find this guy and find out his mods. Anybody on here know which forum a guy like this would use with his Jeep SRT8? Color was dark red, maybe a burgundy color and had the dual center exit exhaust of the pre-2012, pre-392 SRT8 jeeps. Hood bulge was pretty large, almost a small cowl induction look to it. Ran him on his morning commute into Seattle, Washington.
2SSARME
07-12-2012, 10:51 AM
How fast do you run 1/4? I bet you ran into a built vortech srt8.
evangto87
07-12-2012, 10:53 AM
wouldnt that suck to find out he only has a catback on it? haha jk. Those jeeps have always been crazy strong for an suv. There miles ahead of the TB SS. A friend of mine had the older srt8 jeep. Small cam, full exhaust, vortech t trim on 8psi. 10.93 at 123mph. And it pulled hard all the way to 150ish.
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 11:03 AM
wouldnt that suck to find out he only has a catback on it? haha jk. Those jeeps have always been crazy strong for an suv. There miles ahead of the TB SS. A friend of mine had the older srt8 jeep. Small cam, full exhaust, vortech t trim on 8psi. 10.93 at 123mph. And it pulled hard all the way to 150ish.
I heard absolutely nothing besides his fairly quite aftermarket exhaust. Weird sounding almost ricer exhaust with the monotone sound of a turbo engine. Excpe I heard no blower whine, no BOV or turbo sucking/spooling sound, nothing. I just found out it was a older model after browsing SRT8 pictures btw.
I got no times on my car in the 1/4 with this setup. When I was stock gears, stock posi, stock bottom end with small cam, unported LS3 heads I got one and only one pass before my posi blew up: 12.0 @ 115mph. I got at least another 8mph now with the 402ci shortblock, 1/2 point higher compression, fully ported heads, and 10 degrees bigger cam. Probably more like 10mph.
evangto87
07-12-2012, 11:05 AM
I heard absolutely nothing besides his fairly quite aftermarket exhaust. Weird sounding almost ricer exhaust with the monotone sound of a turbo engine. Excpe I heard no blower whine, no BOV or turbo sucking/spooling sound, nothing. I just found out it was a older model after browsing SRT8 pictures btw.
I got no times on my car in the 1/4 with this setup. When I was stock gears, stock posi, stock bottom end with small cam, unported LS3 heads I got one and only one pass before my posi blew up: 12.0 @ 115mph. I got at least another 8mph now with the 402ci shortblock, 1/2 point higher compression, fully ported heads, and 10 degrees bigger cam. Probably more like 10mph.
Yea if i had to guess... your running 123-125mph in average weather. Whats the vehicle weight? Fast intake? All the bolt ons?
2SSARME
07-12-2012, 11:09 AM
No N/A SRT8 is going to keep up with you at 150-160mph. Either he had a SHIT TON of spray or he has some quiet blower under that hood.
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 11:11 AM
Yea if i had to guess... your running 123-125mph in average weather. Whats the vehicle weight? Fast intake? All the bolt ons?
GTO with me in is 3900lbs, fully ported LS3 intake, UDP, Kooks headers/ Spintech catback, 17" stock rims on street tires with 36psi, fresh plugs/wires/filter/oil change. And dozens and dozens of other things done to suspension/engine/trans that are there but don't really bear any weight in this race.
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 11:13 AM
No N/A SRT8 is going to keep up with you at 150-160mph. Either he had a SHIT TON of spray or he has some quiet blower under that hood.
And remember, I was behind him and no doubt getting some kind of slip stream effect from his brick. Probably one and a half cars back as we past 160mph hard with both of us still pulling hard. Don't even think a stock 392 SRT8 can DO 160mph, less yet a older one.
2SSARME
07-12-2012, 11:15 AM
And remember, I was behind him and no doubt getting some kind of slip stream effect from his brick. Probably one and a half cars back as we past 160mph hard with both of us still pulling hard. Don't even think a stock 392 SRT8 can DO 160mph, less yet a older one.
Those jeeps are limited to like 120 or 130. So to get that brick to hit those speeds you're looking at 6-700awhp at least.
evangto87
07-12-2012, 11:22 AM
Those jeeps are limited to like 120 or 130. So to get that brick to hit those speeds you're looking at 6-700awhp at least.
Dont need that much power. They get up to speed fairly easily. That guys that went 10.93 at 123 made 560awhp. And it pulled hard all the way to 160
evangto87
07-12-2012, 11:23 AM
GTO with me in is 3900lbs, fully ported LS3 intake, UDP, Kooks headers/ Spintech catback, 17" stock rims on street tires with 36psi, fresh plugs/wires/filter/oil change. And dozens and dozens of other things done to suspension/engine/trans that are there but don't really bear any weight in this race.
You gotta get that weight down man... My gto in its heaviest with stock wheels and an IRON motor weight 3580 with me in it.
2SSARME
07-12-2012, 11:25 AM
Dont need that much power. They get up to speed fairly easily. That guys that went 10.93 at 123 made 560awhp. And it pulled hard all the way to 160
I find that hard to believe. They are AWD, very un-aerodynamic, and weigh quite a bit more. At 630rwhp I can get to 150 fairly easy but I am RWD, a lot more dynamic at high speeds and weigh less.
evangto87
07-12-2012, 11:29 AM
I find that hard to believe. They are AWD, very un-aerodynamic, and weigh quite a bit more. At 630rwhp I can get to 150 fairly easy but I am RWD, a lot more dynamic at high speeds and weigh less.
they arent as un-aero as you think. Theres A LOT of r&d in those things. Like i said... they are miles ahead of the TB SS. Same weight, same power... the jeep always runs away. Ther AWD is a lot like the evo vs the sti... Evos always seem to pull strong in triple digits vs the STI cant move.
And i could actually hit 160mph fairly easily in my stock boss with only 396whp. But its geared to hit 160 in its 1:1 gear.. my next gear is .65 and i havent even bother to stay in it in 6th
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 12:04 PM
My GTO stock weight was 3770lbs. I dropped around 200lbs off it already, I just need to drop a foot of height and 200lbs off of me now.
evangto87
07-12-2012, 12:09 PM
My GTO stock weight was 3770lbs. I dropped around 200lbs off it already, I just need to drop a foot of height and 200lbs off of me now.
Dude how big are you? lol
2SSARME
07-12-2012, 12:55 PM
they arent as un-aero as you think. Theres A LOT of r&d in those things. Like i said... they are miles ahead of the TB SS. Same weight, same power... the jeep always runs away. Ther AWD is a lot like the evo vs the sti... Evos always seem to pull strong in triple digits vs the STI cant move.
And i could actually hit 160mph fairly easily in my stock boss with only 396whp. But its geared to hit 160 in its 1:1 gear.. my next gear is .65 and i havent even bother to stay in it in 6th
I hear you on that. SRT8 Jeep is totally a daily driver I have on my list one day. I went against a z06 to like 170-180 and man after about 150-160 the thing just opened up on me. I'm talking about form 160-180 he pulled like 3 more cars on me.
Just simple physics. SS, Jeep are big. They are literally bricks. That's why I'm saying to be able to keep up to 160 in those things WITH AWD you need some serious power.
GotHemi?
07-12-2012, 02:47 PM
The 6.1 Jeeps are actually faster than the 392's due to a pretty big weight gain. Go on cherokeeSRT forum and they hate chrysler bc of this. $65k with more hp and still cant beat the previous model. Even the SRT engineers said that its a driver race between the two.
While its very unlikely it was a NA jeep its not impossible. I have seen 440's run to 170 with no problem. Also seen a red NA jeep carry the wheels past the 60ft and run mid 10's. Then theres the rare big cube aluminum blocks out there.
Its hard to say what he had. If he was a big cube/power adder he should have pulled u. Bolt on/power adder most times run high teens with some on kill set ups in the 120's. My guess would be bolt on, h/c, power adder...
chevyconvert
07-12-2012, 03:46 PM
I have posted this thread on cherokeesrt8.com to see if it was anyone over there.
1_MEANZ28
07-12-2012, 03:56 PM
i smell nawwz
Sticks n Stones
07-12-2012, 04:35 PM
Threads getting hot over there. I've now got a basket of Hooters hot wings bet up that one of there bolton only guys can't beat me to 60mph. http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=36
HioSSilver
07-12-2012, 04:42 PM
Dude how big are you? lol
For real!
2SSARME
07-12-2012, 05:14 PM
Man those guys are on par with mach1 owners with so much jeep loving... Jeez. Clearly didn't understand I said I thought they were limited to 120-130 STOCK, since my roommates grand cherokee in the US was limited to like 125 or some shit. Figured hell srt8 might be the same shit.
Totally strutting penises over there over beating a 120-125 trap car lol.
GTOSE
07-12-2012, 07:31 PM
They pull pretty hard up top for a truck, but to hold off a 500 horse goat is outrageous.
Pachy
07-12-2012, 08:09 PM
well guys from someone that owns both, and already has had 5 camaros before, let me tell you they haul A$$ even in stock form, mine does 8.5 in the 1/8 while my 04 , 6spd gto 's best was 8.7, also they go up to 160 stock, you have a well built gto that is surely running in the 11's, so for him to be pulling like that up to 160 must be pushing close or a little bit more than 600whp, they are quick , but mostly from a dig, and some of the most powerful cars that i ve raced in the 1/8 ,i win but if it was a 1/4 they would have won, after 80 or 90 you hit a wall in the jeeps, so it was probably s/c, turbo, or big engine with H/C, anyway sounds like it was a hell of a run!!!, hopefully we'll know who it was soon.
ohioborn80
07-12-2012, 08:23 PM
The last two Jeep srt8 owners I know both drive fords now. One a 12 5.0 other a 12 GT500. They said Jeep was quick just not fast enough with out dumping a lot money in it.
Pachy
07-12-2012, 08:42 PM
well ohioborn last time i checked and bought parts for my jeep and my gto parts were almost the same price, and part for part the jeep still quicker....ohh and the 2 5.0's and the saleen i had blew their engines because they couldnt handle boost. but other than that i'd take a ZL1 over a GT500 anytime.( and a viper over any of those, ;-) )
Pachy
07-12-2012, 08:44 PM
i have a friend with a jeep that lives in washington state, near seattle(but his jeep is black)anyway i'll ask him if he knows who might have been.
ohioborn80
07-12-2012, 08:57 PM
well ohioborn last time i checked and bought parts for my jeep and my gto parts were almost the same price, and part for part the jeep still quicker....ohh and the 2 5.0's and the saleen i had blew their engines because they couldnt handle boost. but other than that i'd take a ZL1 over a GT500 anytime.( and a viper over any of those, ;-) )
Srt8 Jeep mod for.mod faster then a 5.0 or GT500? Um no..and zl1 livernois a GT500 really? Have you seen how slow that car is. It is hardly faster then a stock 5.0/392/SS. Hell on average so far its been slower.
Pachy
07-12-2012, 09:17 PM
i'm not saying faster than a new 5.0 or gt500, i said gto,(that's what he raced ) and even though a gt500 might be a tad quicker than the one livernois has even though they were running those numbers after just having the zl1 for 2 weeks, when the road begins to have curves that's where the zl1 outshines it and also outsines the "boss" as all magazines have proved...i'm a horsepower junkie, i ve had them all camaro's, trans am's , mustangs, saleens,viper trucks,evo's, don't get me wrong, but still the jeep will be quicker than a gto, mod for mod.(still have both)
06GTOKID
07-12-2012, 09:55 PM
IDK what is going on I just want to see a dig race video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
88blackiroc
07-12-2012, 10:50 PM
I want to find out about the Jeep. Hope it doesnt go without being said who the guy is.
WAspeedSRT
07-12-2012, 11:18 PM
I'm a new member on here as of a few weeks ago and Ive been a member on the Cherokee SRT8 forum (different user name) for about 6 months. I live in the Mill Creek/Bothell WA area and I think I know the Jeep you ran across. I have never met him but I have pulled up next to him at a light before and at an idle it was whining pretty good, I think it's blown. I've seen him cruising through the Bothell area a few times. I don't believe he is a member on the Cherokee forum or at least not an active one because I have posted him on the PNW spotted thread and never seen him reply.
Tugboatchad
07-12-2012, 11:49 PM
Sticks and Stones, I left a pm for you on the jeep site. I'm down for some wings, and definitely some friendly racing and sh!t talking!
Let me know.
i2disturbedSS
07-12-2012, 11:57 PM
Man they are clowning on you 2SSARME...
wish i was still in wa to see these races
2SSARME
07-13-2012, 02:22 AM
Man they are clowning on you 2SSARME...
wish i was still in wa to see these races
lololol they feel so honoredea because they abeat lieka 120 trap car. WoOWWWW. and the gto had to brake severla times.
fucking jkyboard is moving.
itsslow98
07-13-2012, 03:25 AM
Those jeeps are no joke from a dig especially on the street, but froma roll they are dogs without a decent amount of mods. I looked at them before I bought my cts-v, interiors were ok but gas mileage sucked balls.
Sticks n Stones
07-13-2012, 11:28 AM
I'm a new member on here as of a few weeks ago and Ive been a member on the Cherokee SRT8 forum (different user name) for about 6 months. I live in the Mill Creek/Bothell WA area and I think I know the Jeep you ran across. I have never met him but I have pulled up next to him at a light before and at an idle it was whining pretty good, I think it's blown. I've seen him cruising through the Bothell area a few times. I don't believe he is a member on the Cherokee forum or at least not an active one because I have posted him on the PNW spotted thread and never seen him reply.
Hmm, very possible. Did he have a aftermarket hood? This one did, kinda like a cowl induction but without the opening, ie more like just a big hump in the middle.
Sticks and Stones, I left a pm for you on the jeep site. I'm down for some wings, and definitely some friendly racing and sh!t talking!
Let me know.
I'll talk to you at 11am (lunch).
ohioborn80
07-13-2012, 11:53 AM
i'm not saying faster than a new 5.0 or gt500, i said gto,(that's what he raced ) and even though a gt500 might be a tad quicker than the one livernois has even though they were running those numbers after just having the zl1 for 2 weeks, when the road begins to have curves that's where the zl1 outshines it and also outsines the "boss" as all magazines have proved...i'm a horsepower junkie, i ve had them all camaro's, trans am's , mustangs, saleens,viper trucks,evo's, don't get me wrong, but still the jeep will be quicker than a gto, mod for mod.(still have both)
Ah ok I mesread..Also the Gt500 has posted some better timest hen the ZL1 now at a few tracks. But ya I wouldn't mind having a Srt8 Jeep as a DD and to tow the stang to the track.
WAspeedSRT
07-13-2012, 12:31 PM
I’m not remembering the hood but I may have missed it. I told my buddy about this thread because he sees this jeep around town too and apparently he knows where the guy lives. It’s on my way home from work so I’m gonna cruise through later today and see if I can spot it.
thunderstruck507
07-13-2012, 01:25 PM
I love how they act like it's impossible for a RWD car to launch on the street. My car is set up pretty terrible for weight transfer but has still out launched both an Evo X and a SRT8 Jeep on the street.
I do love the SRT8s though, cool trucks.
Tugboatchad
07-13-2012, 02:37 PM
I love how they act like it's impossible for a RWD car to launch on the street. My car is set up pretty terrible for weight transfer but has still out launched both an Evo X and a SRT8 Jeep on the street.
I do love the SRT8s though, cool trucks.
That sig pic is SICK!!!! Nice car.
RWD cars can absolutely launch on the street. Most people however cannot, and even a skilled guy has an off launch now and then. Thats where the Jeep shines, absolute torque monster and comes hot out of the hole with very little skill needed or indifference to be called to the task.
I fricking love that SS!!!!
DietCoke
07-13-2012, 02:48 PM
Dude how big are you? lol
Sticks is shrek sized irl. He made my fat buddy feel small, lol.
audacious nick
07-13-2012, 04:11 PM
For those reading from the SRT8 forum: Why do you keep talking about 0-60 times? What are you, little boys comparing 0-60s from a supercar magazine? "Hey guys, I could totally pull a 0-60 of 3.2435464seconds and beat everything!!!"
Not to mention that it's sad when your mods in your sig consist of tinted windows and side markers.
Don't get me wrong, those Jeeps are pretty beastly from a dig, though. And I love the way they look.
Jay z28
07-13-2012, 04:14 PM
For those reading from the SRT8 forum: Why do you keep talking about 0-60 times? What are you, little boys comparing 0-60s from a supercar magazine? "Hey guys, I could totally pull a 0-60 of 3.2435464seconds and beat everything!!!"
Not to mention that it's sad when your mods in your sig consist of tinted windows and side markers.
Don't get me wrong, those Jeeps are pretty beastly from a dig, though. And I love the way they look.
I hope your sig is in jest then. Because it isn't much better, lol.
audacious nick
07-13-2012, 04:16 PM
I hope your sig is in jest then. Because it isn't much better, lol.
Considering it has the words, "Muffler bearings", there is very well a chance that it is in jest.
Cwarta
07-13-2012, 05:08 PM
I hope your sig is in jest then. Because it isn't much better, lol.
Really?
Jay z28
07-13-2012, 05:08 PM
Considering it has the words, "Muffler bearings", there is very well a chance that it is in jest.
I figured, lol. It's good that you changed the stock muffler bearings though. I hear those aren't extremely reliable. Haha
Jay z28
07-13-2012, 05:09 PM
Really?
What?
Cwarta
07-13-2012, 05:09 PM
Aww no man, on a GTO there good for atleast 10`s in da 1320!
NiteRiderWS6
07-13-2012, 05:27 PM
Had to be a 440 with spray
then again idk man this 440 Jeep went 11.15@121 N/A
A Tuned C63 is a solid 11 sec car at close to 120
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-jZ6hpOIw
audacious nick
07-13-2012, 05:41 PM
What?
Probably because it's so obvious that it's sarcastic.
Jay z28
07-13-2012, 05:54 PM
Probably because it's so obvious that it's sarcastic.
Yeah, but it's not like I jumped your shit over it. I assumed it was sarcastic and was just clarifying. Jeebus..
audacious nick
07-13-2012, 05:56 PM
Yeah, but it's not like I jumped your shit over it. I assumed it was sarcastic and was just clarifying. Jeebus..
I'm just explaining his post. I personally don't care, I did it to be funny.
Grip Grip
07-13-2012, 08:03 PM
It's nice seeing everyone getting along. :)
Slapattack
07-14-2012, 02:21 AM
I dont get this shit. Whoa....how could a jeep keep up with your 11 second GTO??? Because he built a bad ass combo. There is a N/A jeep running 10.4 full weight. Get over yourselves. If this jeep pulled you from a roll he will rape you from a dig...trust me. You said your 60ft was 1.5. The jeep that hit the 10.4 N/A has hit 1.37 60ft and thats on motor...lol.
S8ER95Z
07-14-2012, 10:39 AM
http://www.lxforums.com/board/f252/wheel-lifting-good-times-313095/
Picking one up for the wife when we get the chance. Awesome vehicles.
audacious nick
07-14-2012, 12:59 PM
I dont get this shit. Whoa....how could a jeep keep up with your 11 second GTO??? Because he built a bad ass combo. There is a N/A jeep running 10.4 full weight. Get over yourselves. If this jeep pulled you from a roll he will rape you from a dig...trust me. You said your 60ft was 1.5. The jeep that hit the 10.4 N/A has hit 1.37 60ft and thats on motor...lol.
Someone is butthurt.
Edit: I also hope that time in your sig is a joke.
Sticks n Stones
07-14-2012, 02:19 PM
I dont get this shit. Whoa....how could a jeep keep up with your 11 second GTO??? Because he built a bad ass combo. There is a N/A jeep running 10.4 full weight. Get over yourselves. If this jeep pulled you from a roll he will rape you from a dig...trust me. You said your 60ft was 1.5. The jeep that hit the 10.4 N/A has hit 1.37 60ft and thats on motor...lol.
where do you srt8 guys keep getting the impression he EVER pulled me? The best he could muster was when I actually had to go WOT to stay even with him from the 120-160mph mark, when under 120mph I was 90% WOT to keep from rear ending him? Trust me, I'll walk hard on ANY vehicle in 2nd gear that can't beat me in 3rd gear.
liqidvenom
07-14-2012, 03:11 PM
You guys do realize that this thread is over a modded GTO racing a Jeep? Both were fast, just crazy that one was a Jeep.
Either way I've been shown videos of some very fast Jeeps running around. Michigan has their fair share.
Jay z28
07-14-2012, 04:06 PM
where do you srt8 guys keep getting the impression he EVER pulled me? The best he could muster was when I actually had to go WOT to stay even with him from the 120-160mph mark, when under 120mph I was 90% WOT to keep from rear ending him? Trust me, I'll walk hard on ANY vehicle in 2nd gear that can't beat me in 3rd gear.
So you say the BEST he could muster was making you go full WOT from 120-160 where the Jeep has it's worst disadvantage with trying to push the air out of his way? All the while you are slipping through the gigantic opening of air he just created? Am I reading that correctly?
audacious nick
07-14-2012, 04:52 PM
So you say the BEST he could muster was making you go full WOT from 120-160 where the Jeep has it's worst disadvantage with trying to push the air out of his way? All the while you are slipping through the gigantic opening of air he just created? Am I reading that correctly?
Sounds like boost to me.
Sticks n Stones
07-14-2012, 08:23 PM
So you say the BEST he could muster was making you go full WOT from 120-160 where the Jeep has it's worst disadvantage with trying to push the air out of his way? All the while you are slipping through the gigantic opening of air he just created? Am I reading that correctly?
Yes. Drafting doesn't work from 1 1/2 cars back where I was. You gotta be less then half a car length back to benefit from it. I instead was getting buffeted by his slipstream.