Cadillac CTS-V - Some Procharger assistance...




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kl2onik
07-13-2012, 10:53 AM
Was wondering if any of you guys running a procharger have some sort of parts list or point me in the direction of some good pics or writeup. Also is this the blower I need to start the project.http://www.ebay.com/itm/C5-C6-Corvette-Procharger-F-1C-F1C-supercharger-intercooler-10-rib-etc-/170873628078?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c8dca5ae&vxp=mtr I am obviously not going to be the one installing but would like a good link with an overview so my mechanic can ponder it out. From all the blowers I have heard nothing to me sounds nearly as sexy as a procharger blower so I may start buying up some parts to make it happen. Thanks for your help fellas.


punishmentcycle
07-13-2012, 11:15 AM
i would just double check the spacing for the accessories on the c6..i know the c5 uses the same spacing but unsure of the c6. another thing is dont try to pulley it too much on the stock bottom end.. f1's make good power but the bottom wont like it

Onefast V
07-13-2012, 11:27 AM
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/Procharger.htm


vmapper
07-13-2012, 12:47 PM
I removed the specific list from the site as i had posted all prices...

Your looking at a blower with a reverse rotation, meaning, the only place you can mount is on the passenger side using a corvette type bracket... though this is handy as you dont have to screw around with the power steering mounting bracket, re-location of the reservoir etc... Ive yet to see a means of having a filter inlet pipe / filter used if you go that blower route.

I used as well as a few others like SkyDiver, a Standard rotation clocked at C position if i remember, using a GTO main spacer bag and main bracket.

9t8z28
07-13-2012, 02:28 PM
I removed the specific list from the site as i had posted all prices...

Your looking at a blower with a reverse rotation, meaning, the only place you can mount is on the passenger side using a corvette type bracket... though this is handy as you dont have to screw around with the power steering mounting bracket, re-location of the reservoir etc... Ive yet to see a means of having a filter inlet pipe / filter used if you go that blower route.

I used as well as a few others like SkyDiver, a Standard rotation clocked at C position if i remember, using a GTO main spacer bag and main bracket.

Pics?

serik21
07-13-2012, 07:04 PM
https://www.brutespeed.com
Contact bob, he can get you the full kit and you will just need to source a few small things and a few modifications but his route is the easiest and cheaper than buying a new Maggie

vmapper
07-14-2012, 11:11 AM
Pics?


http://vimeo.com/42096122 (just go to 1:15)
There are a bunch in the link above as well....

I have since redone the gauges...using the Elite series (very nice gauges).
http://vimeo.com/44841121

In that one main page, there are lots of sub links to new pages.. such as tuning for the 61 deka injectors. calibration sheets etc...
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/InjectorDetails60.htm

tons of changes coming this winter...
one being a full fuel return system added to the twin pumps...
BruteSpeed Blower cam / A.I. 226cc heads / forged bottom - quite a list...

I was actually going to do a two port BOV w boost controller on the procharger setup and take the blower to the max (8.25" crank / 3.4" h.u.), but decided not to try this setup. (really wanted to though)
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/Procharger_Optimization/OptimizeProcharger.docx


Stuck on how to get wide tires in this crap rear setup...

vmapper
07-14-2012, 11:20 AM
https://www.brutespeed.com
Contact bob

:cool::cool:

9t8z28
07-16-2012, 10:21 AM
I'm confused. You state that you need to mount the Procharger on the passenger side but all the video shows it on the driver side ? ? Are you the original creater of that video or your just commenting on it?

http://vimeo.com/42096122 (just go to 1:15)
There are a bunch in the link above as well....

I have since redone the gauges...using the Elite series (very nice gauges).
http://vimeo.com/44841121

In that one main page, there are lots of sub links to new pages.. such as tuning for the 61 deka injectors. calibration sheets etc...
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/InjectorDetails60.htm

tons of changes coming this winter...
one being a full fuel return system added to the twin pumps...
BruteSpeed Blower cam / A.I. 226cc heads / forged bottom - quite a list...

I was actually going to do a two port BOV w boost controller on the procharger setup and take the blower to the max (8.25" crank / 3.4" h.u.), but decided not to try this setup. (really wanted to though)
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/Procharger_Optimization/OptimizeProcharger.docx


Stuck on how to get wide tires in this crap rear setup...

BudRacing
07-16-2012, 11:01 AM
I'm confused. You state that you need to mount the Procharger on the passenger side but all the video shows it on the driver side ? ? Are you the original creater of that video or your just commenting on it?

He said with a reverse blower like the one linked will need to be on the PS. A normally spun blower will be on the DS.

vmapper
07-16-2012, 04:41 PM
I'm confused. You state that you need to mount the Procharger on the passenger side but all the video shows it on the driver side ? ? Are you the original creater of that video or your just commenting on it?

I am the 'creator' lol, and wrote all those links... (ive slacked as its too much of my time and lots of stuff isnt live.

You need to go here
http://www.procharger.com/pdf/appGuide.pdf

and go to page 51 which is PDF page 52.

There are TWO directions of blowers. One is called a REVERSE Rotation and one is a STANDARD Rotation.
if you mounted the blower you are wanting to buy on the drivers side, the belt pulley would be pointing to the firewall (and there is no means of attaching a belt or the head unit to the main bracket for that matter)... and if you managed somehow to fabricate bracket etc up, the blower would SUCK air out of the engine.

The ONLY way a reverse head unit will work, is on the passenger side of the car, and for this car, you are going to use a Corvette Main Bracket assembly.

Once you get that all figured out... then you must have the OIL SLINGER inside the head unit in the proper CLOCKING position... otherwise, you will be hunting for another head unit in short order.
So, for mine, since Im using a GTO bracket... the backet forces the blower to shift to the C clocking position. You either have to order it this way, send it in (the proper way) or take it apart as I did...
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/Procharger.htm#_RECLOCKING_THE_HEAD

Long story short...
If the OP buys the head unit in the link.. he/she has NO choice but to mount it on the passenger side, as its a reverse rotation head unit. (inlet facing front of car)

cts-vls6
07-16-2012, 05:24 PM
If any one want to do a procharger for there V should listen to vmapper.He know his shit... and u should use the gto kit,the hard parts is making a p/s pump bracket

shadyLS6
07-16-2012, 05:37 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/300766_857328195370_937406075_n.jpg
the A&A bracket+ Reverse rotation procharged V was done by a guy in FL. there is a thread on the cadi fourms. i have seen it.. its a beast. you could easily get a k&n filter behind the grill if you put a turndown in that intake pipe+ a SI coupler to the intakepipe welded in the cross memeber
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/313243_857326848070_1404419199_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/312020_857328549660_635912621_n.jpg
wont see the pics on Chrome/\

liqidvenom
07-16-2012, 11:31 PM
^^^ this really is the best way to run this setup i think. some what easy install.

vmapper
07-16-2012, 11:53 PM
There it is! the other option. - sooo sweet.
yep, less labour... no need to mess with power steering, the washer fluid container... ECM would be very interesting on the drivers side though...
And probably run an intercooler with same side ports.

However, you can not USE silicone on the inlet side for bend... the blower will suck it flat.. ask bob about that... even 5 ply.. no go. You would have to fab up piping.
Filter.. that is the illusive part of this setup.. ive never seen a pic with a proper filter but im sure thats a hell of a lot less headache than the power steering bracket, unless Bob sells them again...(EPP used to sell them)

vmapper
07-17-2012, 12:00 AM
Another advantage with the passenger side (reverse) is you can use a larger blower F1-A and up...
to use on the drivers side... ask Skydiver... some fancy strut tower cutting is required.
F series blowers are 5/8" (off the top of my head) thicker than D-1SC.

9t8z28
07-17-2012, 08:39 AM
thanks for the awesome info. I am well aware of the different rotation prochargers. My F-body was Procharged. You had me confused on what you actually did but you were just giving us the different options. thanks
I am the 'creator' lol, and wrote all those links... (ive slacked as its too much of my time and lots of stuff isnt live.

You need to go here
http://www.procharger.com/pdf/appGuide.pdf

and go to page 51 which is PDF page 52.

There are TWO directions of blowers. One is called a REVERSE Rotation and one is a STANDARD Rotation.
if you mounted the blower you are wanting to buy on the drivers side, the belt pulley would be pointing to the firewall (and there is no means of attaching a belt or the head unit to the main bracket for that matter)... and if you managed somehow to fabricate bracket etc up, the blower would SUCK air out of the engine.

The ONLY way a reverse head unit will work, is on the passenger side of the car, and for this car, you are going to use a Corvette Main Bracket assembly.

Once you get that all figured out... then you must have the OIL SLINGER inside the head unit in the proper CLOCKING position... otherwise, you will be hunting for another head unit in short order.
So, for mine, since Im using a GTO bracket... the backet forces the blower to shift to the C clocking position. You either have to order it this way, send it in (the proper way) or take it apart as I did...
http://www.trafficjams.ca/Performance/Procharger.htm#_RECLOCKING_THE_HEAD

Long story short...
If the OP buys the head unit in the link.. he/she has NO choice but to mount it on the passenger side, as its a reverse rotation head unit. (inlet facing front of car)