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tsench
07-14-2012, 09:39 PM
i got this off a buddy of mine @ MIssissauga shop here the whole process was easy
they need 3 pictures of the car VIN, Rear end and cluster start up the car hook up OBD II computer read from there you allow 1 not ready so as long as no check engine light and they all ready you pass make it easy for us with HPTUNERS :) now for the guy did swap to 99-02 pcm make sure your pcm is reading your VIN on the door or front by windshield correct then shoulnt be problem

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6066/79777152.jpg


spiro27
07-15-2012, 04:48 PM
i thought this hasent started yet. my shop still dynos them. this is great does it check if the monitiors have passed? or does it just check fornos ses light.

tsench
07-16-2012, 12:18 PM
they started slowly now it check monitors and ses light


spoolin turbo
07-19-2012, 06:17 PM
What about OBD1 cars? How will this work? Are they going to raise the exemption to start in 96/97 for OBD2?

flame
07-20-2012, 11:31 AM
What about OBD1 cars? How will this work? Are they going to raise the exemption to start in 96/97 for OBD2?

2 speed idle and 2500rpm sniffer for HC, CO

spoolin turbo
07-20-2012, 04:39 PM
2 speed idle and 2500rpm sniffer for HC, CO

No more Nox testing?

Also is this testing that the sensors are just there or are they testing that the sensors are actually functioning? I am not sure what the 1 not ready is actually measuring.

flame
07-26-2012, 09:48 PM
Thats right no more Nox testing because the EGR valve is not generally used at idle only at cruise and a speed signal is required in most cases for it to be commanded open. The readiness tests are functional tests used by the pcm to help spot problems. They use various sensors to detect problems in the different systems.

spiro27
08-19-2012, 07:28 PM
do they still 2 speed idel the car.

flame
08-21-2012, 11:53 AM
do they still 2 speed idel the car.

After January 2013 98 and newer is plug in testing 97 older is 2 speed idle

Before January 2013 if the place is currently using the new system and the car fails then they run it the old way to see if it passes the sniffer test

LETZRIDE
08-23-2012, 08:24 PM
After January 2013 98 and newer is plug in testing 97 older is 2 speed idle

Before January 2013 if the place is currently using the new system and the car fails then they run it the old way to see if it passes the sniffer test

are you sure it is 98 and newer? if so that blows because I have OBD2 in my 96 and I'm laughing if this is all thats needed to pass.

flame
08-24-2012, 11:32 AM
Yes 98 and newer 90% of the 96-97 vehicles were not fully OBDII compliant

LETZRIDE
08-25-2012, 09:40 AM
son of a, why couldn't they just say any car that was OBD 2 equipped??

Speedy
08-26-2012, 10:39 AM
Is it possible to pass the 2-speed idle test with a 3000 stall?

flame
08-26-2012, 06:18 PM
son of a, why couldn't they just say any car that was OBD 2 equipped??

Because most of the 96-97 don't have enhanced EVAP, misfire detection, catalytic converter monitors that function. OBDII had a transition period and until 98 most of the manufacturers were dragging their feet.

flame
08-26-2012, 06:18 PM
Is it possible to pass the 2-speed idle test with a 3000 stall?

Yeah my 3600 passed just fine!

LETZRIDE
08-27-2012, 12:26 AM
Is it possible to pass the 2-speed idle test with a 3000 stall?

mine passed on a 3200 stall until I went and threw in my larger cam. the driving portion the car is clean as hell, it's the idle that is totally off the charts on my car and which screws everything up.

flame
08-27-2012, 06:58 AM
mine passed on a 3200 stall until I went and threw in my larger cam. the driving portion the car is clean as hell, it's the idle that is totally off the charts on my car and which screws everything up.

Did you raise your idle to the 1200 rpm limit?

LETZRIDE
08-27-2012, 10:24 AM
Did you raise your idle to the 1200 rpm limit?

Ya, I think it may be the overlap in the cam. My old cam was 210/220 .512/.512, my new cam is 230/240 .512/.512

The old cam was a joke to get it to pass, the new cam I think the extra overlap just does it in, because the numbers weren't even close to the limits on idle lol

Speedy
08-27-2012, 06:22 PM
Ya, I think it may be the overlap in the cam. My old cam was 210/220 .512/.512, my new cam is 230/240 .512/.512

The old cam was a joke to get it to pass, the new cam I think the extra overlap just does it in, because the numbers weren't even close to the limits on idle lol

My cam is a 276HR-12 which is 224/230 @.050 with a 112lsa, .537/.544 I'm wondering if the 112 is going to be a problem. What is your lsa?

flame
08-27-2012, 07:50 PM
Yours should be able to pass with good cats and tuning. LETZRIDE has a 3800 6cyl

LETZRIDE
08-27-2012, 08:52 PM
My cam is a 276HR-12 which is 224/230 @.050 with a 112lsa, .537/.544 I'm wondering if the 112 is going to be a problem. What is your lsa?

My LSA is 113, I don't think you'll have a problem passing your with a tune...ESPECIALLY with the new emissions, but even if you had to go through the sniffer I bet you could still pass it.

One thing I never tried was adding ehtanol/methanol to the gas to make it burn a little cleaner.

Remember, I have a 3800 to, so my cam is massive for the tiny motor that I have.

Mat
09-08-2012, 04:59 PM
Any shops near Waterloo Ontario running the new plug-in test?

Mat
10-01-2012, 12:20 PM
Any shops near Waterloo Ontario running the new plug-in test?

Well at least I know one in Missisauga that is! :)

tsench
10-02-2012, 12:31 AM
i know there are couple shop already have it in mississauga

ralfmotorsp\orts
11-04-2012, 10:01 PM
I know this is an old thread, but the date is getting closer, why do they need pictures of the car? and what happens to my 6.0l swapped s10 in this scenario?

flame
11-06-2012, 11:49 AM
Pictures are to prevent fraud. What year is the truck? I haven't heard what is going to happen with the hotrod status in the new testing.

ralfmotorsp\orts
11-10-2012, 09:13 AM
the truck is a 99

flame
11-10-2012, 01:40 PM
Your truck VIN will have to be correct in the pcm and the readiness monitors will need to have run and passed. Here is how to set the pcm up to pass the readiness test if you don't have all the required sensors. http://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning/1562138-wont-pass-emissions-readiness-monitor-issues.html

jeff sheehan
11-12-2012, 03:06 PM
I just purchased a 96 TA with a few mods and cant get through emissions,(EGR and catalyst not ready reading) . Is there a way to pass this test without buying and installing these parts?

flame
11-12-2012, 07:44 PM
If it fails the new system at this point they run it the old way on the rollers so I take it that it failed the dyno test. I'm not sure if the 96-97 tuning software can get it to set the monitors or not. Is the car stock?

LS1Zedder
11-22-2012, 03:21 PM
Any shops near Waterloo Ontario running the new plug-in test?

Oil changers on Victoria st is. I went there and passed with flying colours!!!

Christmas comes early!!!:cheers:

ralfmotorsp\orts
12-09-2012, 08:02 PM
I understand changing my vin in the ecm for my truck to pass. how does the cvn test work for this though?

cam
01-25-2013, 12:29 PM
http://www.wheels.ca/news/drive-clean-has-outlived-its-usefulness/