Street Racing & Kill Stories - How much power needed to beat a bolt on 5.0???

What is it going to take to beat a bolt-on 5.0 with 3.73 gears and 6 speed? My old DD LS1 (110K+ miles) is due for a replacement - wondering if a mild cammed 408 with ported LS3 heads can handle the task. (408 still will be driven 60 miles per day)

Looking for feedback from guys that have got the task done withour blower or N20 - tired of hearing how great the 5.0 is at the office.

For what it is worth, I have ridden in the car, would smoke my stock 99 Z28.

so you're asking if a head/cammed 408 will be enough to beat a bolt-on 5.0....?

lol...

Since when did 5.0s turn into fucking GTRs?

Are you shitting me?

There are a bunch of Cam only LS1's on here that would beat it even.

Nice kill?

Don't make your 408 too mild.

That being said, if a 408 with ported ls3/l92 heads and cam loses to a stock 3.73 5.0 Coyote, you should burn your car to the ground, and then proceed to bunch yourself in the dick a few times just to get the message across

If you're building a 408, you should be looking at much bigger game than a 5.0, even if the 5.0 is modded.

over 9,000

Need at least 800 wheel HP and a 9 sec car to hang with one of them new fangled 5.0's.

And watch out for Mach 1s.

I sense another BS thread coming. lol

Booooo :lock:

You need a 300whp Civic.

Either mach1 or 300whp civic will do.

A ls2 gto with h/c 4000 stall, bigs/little's, full suspension, weight reduction, 175 with nano kit beat me today at our event by a car. I spun a little and that was all it took. Gto runs deep 10's as well.

Y'all are wrong. You need a stock Mach1 everyone knows that.

I just took a shit and my asshole hurts so much.

I was thinking a 2v or 3v would do the trick......

I just took a shit and my asshole hurts so much.

Sounds like a case of rimfire from eating spicy foods

Sounds like a case of rimfire from eating spicy foods

I only ate pizza..

OH FUCK NVM I ATE SOME SPICY WINGS

AWWWWWW man this fucking blows. Tonights gonna suck.

(<---KING PIN on stand bye with FULL-retard helmet -in hand- ready to get IN their.......Dear GOD....)

You need a 300whp Civic.

Dammit, you beat me to it.

How much power needed to beat a bolt on 5.0???

Forged bottom end, H/C/I, 76mm Turbo w/ a 100-shot might do it.

A heads/cam 408 to take down a bolt-on Coyote? Man, that 5.0 must be packing some big-ass horsies!!!

H/C/I/Spray 572 BBC. He'll probably still get you by half a car though once his tune settles in.

All You need is a ls6 ;)








With spray and compound boost set up

You need the WORLD pulling behind you.



-:jest:

In an A4 car full bolt ons,converter should do it along with tires
M6 full bolt ons,gear,tires and mild cam should make you competive.

Do you know to beat it from a dig or a roll? And what kind of full bolt on 5.0. Are you referring to the ones that run low 11s at 120+ or the ones that are still stuck in the 12s at mid teens. Like any other car, they have there good drivers, bad drivers, good setups, bad setups. But in your case, full bolt ons, 4.10s, and a cam should cover you against most bolt on 5.0s. There might be that one or two that come along that have a bit more time into there setup that will pull you. But thats few and far in between. When that happens, just grab a set of heads and a fast intake. Done. As far as a 408 is concerned. You would have to make the weakest 408 to not get that job done

Sell your car buy a Corvette, never worry about 5.0s without big mods lol

Sell your car buy a Corvette, never worry about 5.0s without big mods lol

^what he said. Buy a z06 and never worry about.... anything

i thought all bolt on 5.0's run 10's?

i thought all bolt on 5.0's run 10's?

haha obviously not.. but in all seriousness. If he wants a setup to beat ALL bolt on 5.0s and not just the half assed ones that arent impressive, he should put together a nice H/C setup. And i mean ALL bolt on 5.0s. The fastest currently runs 10.88 at 126. And there are multiple that are real close to taking that title away. But those are few and far between. OP needs a solid 120mph car to cover most bolt on 5.0s he will encounter.

v6 3.8 with a 300 shot

Do you know to beat it from a dig or a roll? And what kind of full bolt on 5.0. Are you referring to the ones that run low 11s at 120+ or the ones that are still stuck in the 12s at mid teens. Like any other car, they have there good drivers, bad drivers, good setups, bad setups. But in your case, full bolt ons, 4.10s, and a cam should cover you against most bolt on 5.0s. There might be that one or two that come along that have a bit more time into there setup that will pull you. But thats few and far in between. When that happens, just grab a set of heads and a fast intake. Done. As far as a 408 is concerned. You would have to make the weakest 408 to not get that job done

Finally someone provides an answer to my question. For what its worth, there were quite a few entertaining posts as well.

Low 11's are my concern, not the 12 second guys that probably don't know how to drive or have a mixed bag of parts. Not all 408 LS cars run 10's - especially ones set up for DD that still have functioning A/C. Low 11's here are more than adequate for my needs - if I want more a N2O shot can fix that.

I don't intent do rebuild the LS1 - I'd prefer more displacement along with larger bore to allow heads to breath without huge cam timing which while fun is not when stuck in traffic. I don't want to be changing valve springs every 6 months either.

You could do ya a build around a stock ls7 with bolt-ons and not have to worry about even supercharged 5.0's.

or even a cam only ls3. would be pretty killer in a 4th gen

You could do ya a build around a stock ls7 with bolt-ons and not have to worry about even supercharged 5.0's.

:eyes:

How can you roll your eyes when you have never posted any of your results. Now post up or :gtfo:

Just ask mystic, all you need is free mods on a stock A4.

i thought all bolt on 5.0's run 10's?

a bolt on MACH1 runs 10s.

a bolt on MACH1 runs 10s.

and 5.0's only run around 75% of mach1, correct?

haha obviously not.. but in all seriousness. If he wants a setup to beat ALL bolt on 5.0s and not just the half assed ones that arent impressive, he should put together a nice H/C setup. And i mean ALL bolt on 5.0s. The fastest currently runs 10.88 at 126. And there are multiple that are real close to taking that title away. But those are few and far between. OP needs a solid 120mph car to cover most bolt on 5.0s he will encounter.

So they run 10.80s full bolt on???? Wtf is ohioborn doing if theese bolt on cars run that?????? maybe gutted race cars???????lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VozITGF-DR4So they run 10.80s full bolt on???? Wtf is ohioborn doing if theese bolt on cars run that?????? maybe gutted race cars???????lol

Like he said ....gutted full race cars. I've read articles on what it took to get there. Ohio couldn't get his past 11.7. You should've went and ran your boss. It should go faster then the car you just YouTube raced........right?

Like he said ....gutted full race cars. I've read articles on what it took to get there. Ohio couldn't get his past 11.7. You should've went and ran your boss. It should go faster then the car you just YouTube raced........right?

my car weighs less then that gt.. how is that a gutted race car? I havent pulled a single thing out of mine. And since when did Ohios car become the benchmark for the new 5.0?? No offense to him because i like his car but my buddies 403 ss traps the exact same with a 3800lb race weight and 100 less whp on pump gas being driving to and from the strip (4 hours of driving). But im not gonna turn this into an ls1tech pissing match. I have better things to do.

5.0 are quick and will smoke a cam only ls1. Trust me, I've had the opportunity to go at it with one.

This one on vid is a 415ish HP stang, film car is an big cam bolt on ls1, and my ride in the middle. Mods in sig...

30 roll...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4XCe7mYY6M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

OP... regardless of what anyone says. If you want to have 90 percent of the bolt on 5.0s in the bag. Build a 120mph trap car and just learn how to drive it.

OP... regardless of what anyone says. If you want to have 90 percent of the bolt on 5.0s in the bag. Build a 120mph trap car and just learn how to drive it.

i agree, not saying "omg my 5.0 is beast and yall suck", just saying the 5.0 becomes a much more aggressive car after mainly a tune, and a few simple bolt ons. although the same can be said for the f body. for me it seems to be a 50/50 tossup when i race my former f body brethren. for me stalled/heads/cam ls1's are quick and something to watch out for, but simple intake/headers/minor mod ls1's cant keep up.

5.0 are quick and will smoke a cam only ls1. Trust me, I've had the opportunity to go at it with one.

This one on vid is a 415ish HP stang, film car is an big cam bolt on ls1, and my ride in the middle. Mods in sig...

30 roll...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4XCe7mYY6M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

U have no sig.

I would think a cam only ls would could and should out run a 5.0. Not to say the 5.0's are slow because they are not. But with both having eqaul bolt-on's and giving the ls a cam if it don't win then there is something wrong with the set-up/cam selection/tune of the ls car. It's not that hard for a cam/bolt-on car to make significant more power than me......and I can flat wipe the floor with a 5.0.

my car weighs less then that gt.. how is that a gutted race car? I havent pulled a single thing out of mine. And since when did Ohios car become the benchmark for the new 5.0?? No offense to him because i like his car but my buddies 403 ss traps the exact same with a 3800lb race weight and 100 less whp on pump gas being driving to and from the strip (4 hours of driving). But im not gonna turn this into an ls1tech pissing match. I have better things to do.

Your right....until you run YOURS you have nothing to piss with.

Ohio had his car down to 3300lbs.

The car you posted is'nt even in street trim. It's on a full slick.

Also don't it seem funny to you that these shop cars seem to run better than you average joe's car. I mean if you have the same bolt-ons / tune should'nt all these othe 11/12 sec bolt-on 5.0's be in the 10's......it's that easy right?

See...this is what iv been talking about...look at the tech boys fallen all to pieces over nothen AGAIN...:eyes:

Just another lswat > world pissing match.

Hioss... Maybe ur right, about something wrong, film car is a M6 ls1 big cam and bolt ons. Maybe his tune is killing him, but gets walked by the 5.0 Wich has bolt ons cai bama tune short shifter and some other stuff I cant remember. Good N/A cars IMO...

King pig, no one is falling into pieces. just helping the guy who started the thread understand what he's going to need.

Your right....until you run YOURS you have nothing to piss with.

Ohio had his car down to 3300lbs.

The car you posted is'nt even in street trim. It's on a full slick.

Also don't it seem funny to you that these shop cars seem to run better than you average joe's car. I mean if you have the same bolt-ons / tune should'nt all these othe 11/12 sec bolt-on 5.0's be in the 10's......it's that easy right?

If thats the case... and we are going to argue that. Shouldnt all LS6 crate motor swapped f bodies trap 130mph?? Come on man. For ever 100 cars, 1 is impressive, because 99 percent of people cant build a fast car with the exact same parts. You make it sound like you have barely any work into your car. When in fact, admit it or not, your car is WAY more of a "race car" then that GT i posted. I wasnt aware a wheel/tire swap makes it a race car. Hell ive take bone stock cars down the track with slicks and skinnies on them. They must be race cars too i guess. And since when can average joe build a fast car. So far according to LS1tech, i should have been destroyed by every car ive raced so far...

And in comparison since you like to say your car has barely any work done to it and Ohios is built. His car weighing 3300lbs + auto + 620whp, traps 130mph.. Your car weighing 3000lbs + 420whp, traps 130mph... something is missing from that equation. Stop hating on the car just because you dont like it. I hate to break it to you, but if you trap 113mph stock, add 55-60whp to a car, run suspension, and a bit of weight reduction, and only trap 117-118... you fail... completely fail. Just because i havent taken THIS car down the track yet, does not mean i have never taken a car down the track. For example. Same track day. I took my 3650 race weight gto down the track on nitto DRs. Stock gear, junkyard 6.0 with an ls6 cam and bolt ons (made 355whp) through a locked 3000 converter. I went 12.1 at 114 (no gear and not enough converter to best a 1.77 60 foot). Another guy who was driving the absolute balls out of his cammed/bolt on/maggied 04 gto which made in the 440s was running consistant 12.2 at 112. Ive also went 11.4 on sumitomo street tires with a H/C 6.0. Most couldnt do that on a slick. But either way...

Funny how these 5.0 guys on tech can never get their cars to run what these shop cars do. lol


Bottom line, the average bolt-on 5.0 doesn't run anywhere near 10s, neither do they trap 120+. I wonder when these guys will realize this.

Makes me think of when Ohioborn bragged about these 10.90@125 bolt-on cars and then could only muster mid 10s in his FI stalled auto car w/ over 600rwhp. :lol:

and 5.0's only run around 75% of mach1, correct?

50% sir. Do not insult mach1s please.

Funny how these 5.0 guys on tech can never get their cars to run what these shop cars do. lol


Bottom line, the average bolt-on 5.0 doesn't run anywhere near 10s, neither do they trap 120+. I wonder when these guys will realize this.

Makes me think of when Ohioborn bragged about these 10.90@125 bolt-on cars and then could only muster mid 10s in his FI stalled auto car w/ over 600rwhp. :lol:

They forget to tell you that these 10 second bolt on 5.0s have massive weight reduction. But you know, weight reduction isn't a mod in the mustang/honda community. (small penis people)

They forget to tell you that these 10 second bolt on 5.0s have massive weight reduction. But you know, weight reduction isn't a mod in the mustang/honda community. (small penis people)

I am highly aware of this. :lol:

Yea these 5.0s are deff over rated and theres no way they can run fairly well into the 11s or even anywhere close to the 10s. SINCE WHEN DOES THE AVERAGE ANY CAR RUN FAST? I can show you a shit ton of H/C f bodies that cant keep up with other bolt on F bodies... so by all means, lets judge the car based off the bad running ones. But when its in our favor, lets judge them by the best running ones. This site truly is incredible. Bottom line is every bolt on f body should trap 130... and every bolt on 5.0 should barely trap 115. Thats the way of the ls1tech. Gotta love it.

OP....120mph car... that will beat the any bolt on 5.0 you will find roaming the streets. And probly will only take a full exhaust and gears to give you coworkers car a beating if its bone stock. And if they keep ranting about how super faster it is, then they have probably never really driven a FAST car, so they probably cant drive period. In the hands of a good driver, it will trap 112-113. In the hands of joe blow, it will trap far south of 110. Shouldnt take much to beat him.

Yea these 5.0s are deff over rated and theres no way they can run fairly well into the 11s or even anywhere close to the 10s. SINCE WHEN DOES THE AVERAGE ANY CAR RUN FAST? I can show you a shit ton of H/C f bodies that cant keep up with other bolt on F bodies... so by all means, lets judge the car based off the bad running ones. But when its in our favor, lets judge them by the best running ones. This site truly is incredible. Bottom line is every bolt on f body should trap 130... and every bolt on 5.0 should barely trap 115. Thats the way of the ls1tech. Gotta love it.

You didn't answer my question about the fastest bone-stock 5.0 being an auto? Seems like you and everyone else is avoiding the question since up until this thread the A6 was suppose to be the fastest between the two.

And you were the one who posted the shop car vid which in my opinion shop car results should be taken with a grain of salt.

You didn't answer my question about the fastest bone-stock 5.0 being an auto? Seems like you and everyone else is avoiding the question since up until this thread the A6 was suppose to be the fastest between the two.

And you were the one who posted the shop car vid which in my opinion shop car results should be taken with a grain of salt.

i stated in the other thread i have never heard of such a car. The only car i know of for holding a record is the stick car that runs 12.1 at 114. Ive never heard of an auto car break 12.6 on a stock tune. Dez racing has gotten there a6 gt to go 12.4 at 114 with intake, catback, tune, 4.10s, drag radials. Car makes 25whp/30wtq more then stock.

I feel for you evangto87, you give the most honest opinions and share valuable knowledge on the new Fords and just get crapped on. May I apologize for the thick-headedness on this site.

What I don't understand is why the same thing is being repeated in this thread post after post. Normal bolt-on 5.0 = low 11's <120mph traps (Very respectable). There, done finished. OP said he wants >=120mph traps which means he should be fine unless running up against a purpose built 5.0 (IE: shop car).

Clear enough?

I feel for you evangto87, you give the most honest opinions and share valuable knowledge on the new Fords and just get crapped on. May I apologize for the thick-headedness on this site.

What I don't understand is why the same thing is being repeated in this thread post after post. Normal bolt-on 5.0 = low 11's <120mph traps (Very respectable). There, done finished. OP said he wants >=120mph traps which means he should be fine unless running up against a purpose built 5.0 (IE: shop car).

Clear enough?

I dont understand the "thick-headed-ness" of this place. OP says he wants a car that will beat a bolt on 5.0. I think im the only person in 5 pages to actually give him an honest answer. I said setup his car to trap 120mph (whatever route he goes is his choice) and just learn to drive it well, and he will beat 90 percent of any bolt on 5.0 he comes across... and yes sorry to the GM guys, but there are street driven bolt on 5.0s that will trap over 120, but they are in a much more rare percentage and are by no means the "average" bolt on car.

If that hurts anyones feelings... them im sorry... but truth hurts sometimes

I dont understand the "thick-headed-ness" of this place. OP says he wants a car that will beat a bolt on 5.0. I think im the only person in 5 pages to actually give him an honest answer. I said setup his car to trap 120mph (whatever route he goes is his choice) and just learn to drive it well, and he will beat 90 percent of any bolt on 5.0 he comes across... and yes sorry to the GM guys, but there are street driven bolt on 5.0s that will trap over 120, but they are in a much more rare percentage and are by no means the "average" bolt on car.

If that hurts anyones feelings... them im sorry... but truth hurts sometimes

Maybe it was the 5.0 nutswingers that started the confusion. Those guys that claimed 122 mph traps bolt-ons with ease.

I feel for you evangto87, you give the most honest opinions and share valuable knowledge on the new Fords and just get crapped on. May I apologize for the thick-headedness on this site.

What I don't understand is why the same thing is being repeated in this thread post after post. Normal bolt-on 5.0 = low 11's <120mph traps (Very respectable). There, done finished. OP said he wants >=120mph traps which means he should be fine unless running up against a purpose built 5.0 (IE: shop car).

Clear enough?

If you're referring to me I'm not "crapping" on anyone nor am I thick headed. Far from that. lol

Maybe it was the 5.0 nutswingers that started the confusion. Those guys that claimed 122 mph traps bolt-ons with ease.

they def dont do 122 with "ease". That will take know how to setup a car right... and yes... even with just bolt ons, there is a right and a wrong way to setup a car. For example. Choosing the cheap route of pace setter 1 3/4 longtubes, pacesetter x pipe and cats, stock mid pipes, and a flow master axle back vs spending the big dollar route and getting an ARH or Kooks 1 7/8 header with either of there GOOD high flow catted x pipes and a race inspired catback (mandreal bends, less bends, much higher cfm muffler) is a 15whp difference. Both cars can say they have a "full exhaust" but those 2 exhaust systems are totally not divided equally. But that conversation is for another thread.

Certain guys on here just get butt hurt over the new coyotes :secret2:

Its no different over on SVT either.. i dont even bother posting there because they are even WORSE. Most people forget that i was once a cage territory NA GTO guy... but rather then get pissed off and bent about how the new 5.0s were performing.... I just went and bought one. And i couldnt be happier. Even after having broken my first trans already... im still happy with the car. I brought it to Tasca today... Carl personally talked to me and drove the car. He talked to service and told them to fix it regardless of what aftermarket work is done to it. So to me, Ford scores points in my book. And hes an extremely nice guy.

Its no different over on SVT either.. i dont even bother posting there because they are even WORSE. Most people forget that i was once a cage territory NA GTO guy... but rather then get pissed off and bent about how the new 5.0s were performing.... I just went and bought one. And i couldnt be happier. Even after having broken my first trans already... im still happy with the car. I brought it to Tasca today... Carl personally talked to me and drove the car. He talked to service and told them to fix it regardless of what aftermarket work is done to it. So to me, Ford scores points in my book. And hes an extremely nice guy.

Hey just because my $110k dollar car only runs low 13s doesn't mean I'm butt-hurt!


j/k.

But seriously, I like the new Mustangs as well as Camaro and Challenger. I'm just trying to dispell some of the myths being tossed around that's all. :)

Its no different over on SVT either.. i dont even bother posting there because they are even WORSE. Most people forget that i was once a cage territory NA GTO guy... but rather then get pissed off and bent about how the new 5.0s were performing.... I just went and bought one. And i couldnt be happier. Even after having broken my first trans already... im still happy with the car. I brought it to Tasca today... Carl personally talked to me and drove the car. He talked to service and told them to fix it regardless of what aftermarket work is done to it. So to me, Ford scores points in my book. And hes an extremely nice guy.Ya, GM does not score points there...as I used to work for them and I know what I know. :(

Hey just because my $110k dollar car only runs low 13s doesn't mean I'm butt-hurt!


j/k.

But seriously, I like the new Mustangs as well as Camaro and Challenger. I'm just trying to dispell some of the myths being tossed around that's all. :)

Your car could run faster than that though with a little here and a little there, obviously. It aint no Mustang or Camaro either, which is what I like about it, AND hate about it! :devil:

Certain guys on here just get butt hurt over the new coyotes :secret2:

Hey aren't you still recovering from that ass-rape you received in the "ccw" thread over in the lounge? I know you have to be soar as hell from that one. I literally ate a whole box of popcorn watching those guys rip you to pieces. :rotflmao:






Just kidding. :)

No I had a LOT more left in me ;). Just thought it best to gracefully stumble out the door...

edit: I basically just got them to argue their point is all...and not sound like a bunch of gun loving nuts! I think I helped them more than hindered. So who won?

Not everything is what it seems, and although it takes a little intelligence you can get someone to argue your point for you ;)

No I had a LOT more left in me ;). Just thought it best to gracefully stumble out the door...

edit: I basically just got them to argue their point is all...and not sound like a bunch of gun loving nuts! I think I helped them more than hindered. So who won?

Believe it or not I actually agreed with most of everything you said well, except for the part about "People don't kill people, guns kill people". :lol:






K Back on topic now.

Actually guns do kill people. Most people are not capable of "kill" without one. On account of being pussies and not able to be creative. Novel statement? Sure. Off the wall? Ok. But that's the way I think. Give a hot tempered lad a gun, and sure he knows how to handle, until his temper kicks in. That's an eye opener, finger in your mouth, puckered ass cheek statement, but ya~! So...you're one of the damn fools that agreed with me but were afraid to make a statement? You bastard. lol.

K ya, back on topic. This isn't a good one lol.

my car weighs less then that gt.. how is that a gutted race car? I havent pulled a single thing out of mine. And since when did Ohios car become the benchmark for the new 5.0?? No offense to him because i like his car but my buddies 403 ss traps the exact same with a 3800lb race weight and 100 less whp on pump gas being driving to and from the strip (4 hours of driving). But im not gonna turn this into an ls1tech pissing match. I have better things to do.

You are leaving details out about a car you have never ever seen. I have many times-that video you posted is at Cecil where I race. That car is NOT heavier than yours

You 5.0 guys keep posting vids from Cecil with cars that as Redfire mentioned have more mods and are gutted out. Cut it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VozITGF-DR4



If you have a cammed LS1 fbody with medium sized cam at full weight and lose to a full weight bolt on 5.0 stang than you need to learn how to drive and get a tuner. 5.0 is faster stock to stock and with the mods. You just need to out mod them and lose some weight to be them. I hung out with those 5.0 guys at Cecil and with bolt ons and weight reduction they were faster than me with bolt ons. I needed a cam to beat them and that goes for the autos that were not gutted.
I got flamed to hell on this forum warning guys with lids,exhaust that against a good running tuned or stock 5.0 they were dead meat and got flamed for it so I am not biased in anyway

o dear god another 5.0 argument. for the record i do not claim 10's with ease, or any of the stereotypes that 5.0 guys get. i could care less what it runs, i just enjoy driving it and isnt that what it should all be about.

mike morris is one of the most correct posts on here btw. i fully respect cammed and stalled ls1's as i used to have one. but your average lid and headers ls1 usually isnt going to have what it takes to beat a good running 5.0.

Hey just because my $110k dollar car only runs low 13s doesn't mean I'm butt-hurt!



It could be worse...at least you're not driving a POS f-body and only running low 13s...amiright?

Ya, GM does not score points there...as I used to work for them and I know what I know. :(



Your car could run faster than that though with a little here and a little there, obviously. It aint no Mustang or Camaro either, which is what I like about it, AND hate about it! :devil:

Gm replaced my t-56 under warranty knowing I was modded. Even had a spec clutch in it.

How can you roll your eyes when you have never posted any of your results. Now post up or :gtfo:

I will when the car makes a pass but what does that hace to do with your great advice lol

I see alot of new 5.0s at the track and from what i see in the real world from what i read on here is a whole different car, there good running cars yes, but i think most of these comments are just far out of reality

Mach1

hmm mach1 guy shows up all of a sudden with 5 posts after all these mach1 comments......

i smell troll account.

i stated in the other thread i have never heard of such a car. The only car i know of for holding a record is the stick car that runs 12.1 at 114. Ive never heard of an auto car break 12.6 on a stock tune. Dez racing has gotten there a6 gt to go 12.4 at 114 with intake, catback, tune, 4.10s, drag radials. Car makes 25whp/30wtq more then stock.

There been 1auto I know go 12.3@110 bone stock. Haven't seen the manual go 12.1@114 bone stock. I know 2that went 12.1 with tires for manuals. Also one that went 12.22 bone stock.
Also a few that went 11.8-11.9 auto with just tune and tire.

Like he said ....gutted full race cars. I've read articles on what it took to get there. Ohio couldn't get his past 11.7. You should've went and ran your boss. It should go faster then the car you just YouTube raced........right?

My car went 11.4@119. I couldn't get it cause I was in the middle of Iraq. And only time I got to run after mods was middle of August and it was 100* when I took it. Your car would be lucky to run mid 11's in the middle of summer here
When its 110+ during day and still 95* at midnight when I ran mine. After 6 months of not even driving a car.

So they run 10.80s full bolt on???? Wtf is ohioborn doing if theese bolt on cars run that?????? maybe gutted race cars???????lol

They run at way better tracks in 0 or negative da. That 10.88 car has not been 10's again. At a bunch events with + da it has went low 11's. Plus I have 350lbs on it. And run in 2000+ worse da at a track that does subpar prep. The ones on here that run at little river can tell you how bad it sucks.

If thats the case... and we are going to argue that. Shouldnt all LS6 crate motor swapped f bodies trap 130mph?? Come on man. For ever 100 cars, 1 is impressive, because 99 percent of people cant build a fast car with the exact same parts. You make it sound like you have barely any work into your car. When in fact, admit it or not, your car is WAY more of a "race car" then that GT i posted. I wasnt aware a wheel/tire swap makes it a race car. Hell ive take bone stock cars down the track with slicks and skinnies on them. They must be race cars too i guess. And since when can average joe build a fast car. So far according to LS1tech, i should have been destroyed by every car ive raced so far...

And in comparison since you like to say your car has barely any work done to it and Ohios is built. His car weighing 3300lbs + auto + 620whp, traps 130mph.. Your car weighing 3000lbs + 420whp, traps 130mph... something is missing from that equation. Stop hating on the car just because you dont like it. I hate to break it to you, but if you trap 113mph stock, add 55-60whp to a car, run suspension, and a bit of weight reduction, and only trap 117-118... you fail... completely fail. Just because i havent taken THIS car down the track yet, does not mean i have never taken a car down the track. For example. Same track day. I took my 3650 race weight gto down the track on nitto DRs. Stock gear, junkyard 6.0 with an ls6 cam and bolt ons (made 355whp) through a locked 3000 converter. I went 12.1 at 114 (no gear and not enough converter to best a 1.77 60 foot). Another guy who was driving the absolute balls out of his cammed/bolt on/maggied 04 gto which made in the 440s was running consistant 12.2 at 112. Ive also went 11.4 on sumitomo street tires with a H/C 6.0. Most couldnt do that on a slick. But either way...

He is talking about my manual that weighed 3300. And it actually weighed right at 3350. Trapped 119-120 and went 11.4 in mid September with a DA of still 2600.

My auto weighs almost 3700lbs with the blower on it. Add me another 210lbs. At 620whp went 10.60@129/10.64@131 and 10.68@131. On DR's and with 18" rims with a 255 invo on the front for one them passes. Skinnies on two of the others. All passes in DA of 3000+. It also just went 10.61@134 with a 1.78 60ft spinning. In DA of 3600.

Funny how these 5.0 guys on tech can never get their cars to run what these shop cars do. lol


Bottom line, the average bolt-on 5.0 doesn't run anywhere near 10s, neither do they trap 120+. I wonder when these guys will realize this.

Makes me think of when Ohioborn bragged about these 10.90@125 bolt-on cars and then could only muster mid 10s in his FI stalled auto car w/ over 600rwhp. :lol:
Read above. Not all us get to run in -500 to 0 DA like these shop cars with great track prep. We run in TX or other places that have sorry DA. Yet sill a few still s few cars owned by real owners and not shop cars have went low 11's in TX still and in 2000+ DA. And they still weigh 3500lbs with driver.

But kinda like like always here people talk how people always talk how Z06's and ZR1's all run 10's stock then you see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5AHnXjj2Gw

at same time this goes this..with bolt ons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdM2fQ4UKvU

My car went 11.4@119. I couldn't get it cause I was in the middle of Iraq. And only time I got to run after mods was middle of August and it was 100* when I took it. Your car would be lucky to run mid 11's in the middle of summer here
When its 110+ during day and still 95* at midnight when I ran mine. After 6 months of not even driving a car.

So now you gonna try to tell me your bolt-on 5.0 would run with me ......yea what a joke that would be. The 5.0 I ran last year is gonna need alot more than bolt-ons. I hot lap the shit out of my car. The times I run are not long cool down or iced down bs times. To be honest I don't even like to raise the hood when I go to the track.

So now you gonna try to tell me your bolt-on 5.0 would run with me ......yea what a joke that would be. The 5.0 I ran last year is gonna need alot more than bolt-ons. I hot lap the shit out of my car. The times I run are not long cool down or iced down bs times. To be honest I don't even like to raise the hood when I go to the track.

Yes I think it would if you wasn't racing in great weather but running in same hot air we are. No matter if short cool downs or not. Your racing in 60* weather to our 95=110* weather. Makes a huge difference. And look at buddies bolt on auto. 11.00 in worse weather then you. And traps with you also. Imagine if he ran in that great Cecil air an super prep. Yet you will try an find another excuse why his car ran so good. Its gutted race car only. :eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdM2fQ4UKvU&feature=g-hist


Hence why your fastest times come during the winter months. Cold great - or 0 DA.

:corn:

the worst thing aboot mustangs are mustang drivers.

I hate humanity...

The drivers are in fact the worst part of mustangs. Ohio seems cool, fanboy, but he's alright. All of the local mustang owners claim 100+HP over what their car actually makes. They never race anything faster than a 15 second car. If you call them out, they say that they don't race for anything less than $500. God forbid you actually go get the cash (been there). They will just say that the atm only allows a max of $300. Then you say "OK go get $300 and we will run for that." Then they bitch out and make up excuses. Then you find out from your friends that they have been going around town calling you a pussy. Its not a stereotype if its true.

The drivers are in fact the worst part of mustangs. Ohio seems cool, fanboy, but he's alright. All of the local mustang owners claim 100+HP over what their car actually makes. They never race anything faster than a 15 second car. If you call then out, they say that they don't race for anything less than $500. God forbid you actually go get the cash (been there). They will just say that the atm only allows a max of $300. Then you say "OK go get $300 and we will run for that." Then they bitch out and make up excuses. Then you find out from your friends that they have been going around town calling you a pussy. Its not a stereotype if its true.

ive lost more races then ive won, because i try and race cars that make more power then me...

ive lost more races then ive won, because i try and race cars that make more power then me...

Then you, sir, are a very rare exception!

Then you, sir, are a very rare exception!

heres a montage of me losing races

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInGgDdvBiU

I do the same thing Evangto...I'm 0-7 against three Evos, a WRX and three civics. I don't even remember the last time I won a race lol...

ive lost more races then ive won, because i try and race cars that make more power then me...
you probly the coolest stang owner here lol

yall know what....I think its HAM TIME I got this thread :lock: :gruffy:

Ill be back on tomorrow around mid day-ish....and if this thread isnt cleaned up then...IM GOEN FULL RETARD!!!!

-RETARD POWERZ ACTIVATE!!!! :eek2:

I do the same thing Evangto...I'm 0-7 against three Evos, a WRX and three civics. I don't even remember the last time I won a race lol...

maybe one day ill get a win lol

I hate humanity...

+1

just a guy who asked a question wanting to one up a co-worker at the office.....:punch:

you know what ohioborn your giving us mustang guys on here a bad rep. please stop being a part of every 5.0 thread your getting flamed and it just sets the rest of us up to look like cocky assholes.