Multimedia Exchange - Just got my TSP ORY! Merge pic inside. Documentating my install process.

Didn't find any good pics online of the inside of the merge so i decided to snap a pic.




Sorry for the cellphone pics.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8432/7586453946_94a29c3342_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7277/7586453780_704520a8a0_c.jpg

FINAL UPDATE:

To sum up the TSP ORY, it is nice quality, but the way it fits is shit, and the clamps they send with it are garbage. IMO, to be able to get the ORY on properly and effectively you NEED to consider taking it to get welded. If you don't mind grinding your passanger side header or getting it welded together then i def recommend it, if not then this is not the ORY for you.

the merge is nice i had the same y pipe fitment was horrible just my own expierence

the merge is nice i had the same y pipe fitment was horrible just my own expierence

Yeah i remember reading the same, what exactly didn't you like about it?

Im going to be installing it tomorrow along with some pacesetters.

BTW love your T/A man!

Damn those are sexy!!!!! I was going to grab that same header y-pipe combo but the place that's tuning my car now has a mandrel bender so I'm going custom to clear the drive shaft safety loop but keep us posted on how they fit on your ride....:cheers:

Oh and we want some video to......:drive:

Ill get a first start vid, for sure.

thanks it hung so damn low no matter what i did i ended up getting a used pacesetter y that fit perfectly and had the tsp merge cut and welded on. loved the merge but the fitment was horrible for me no matter what i tried the pacesetter slipped on in 5 mins no problems. I know some people have no problem fitting it but most do i was under the most category

Ok you've had all day where's are video and review?!?!?:drive:

Damn those are sexy!!!!! I was going to grab that same header y-pipe combo but the place that's tuning my car now has a mandrel bender so I'm going custom to clear the drive shaft safety loop but keep us posted on how they fit on your ride....:cheers:

Oh and we want some video to......:drive:

Are you going full duals then? If you have access to a mandrel bender it would be worth the extra money IMO, although it is a pretty tight fit over the drive shaft.

That TSP merge is awesome, had I kept my car I would have replaced the Pacesetter with it. The merge on the Pacesetter is a joke, it has to be the worst merge I've ever seen, while the TSP is easily one of the best.

Are you going full duals then? If you have access to a mandrel bender it would be worth the extra money IMO, although it is a pretty tight fit over the drive shaft.

I would like to but for $$$$ reasons I'm going to stick with the slp lm1 for now since the swap and tune will eat most of my currently tight budget. I know the custom y-pipe will cost extra but the one I have now rattles like crazy and its driving me nuts!!!!

Mine fits great, I just hope when I hack off that bottle neck part and make it a true 3 inch merge, some of the rasp goes away

Are you going full duals then? If you have access to a mandrel bender it would be worth the extra money IMO, although it is a pretty tight fit over the drive shaft.

That TSP merge is awesome, had I kept my car I would have replaced the Pacesetter with it. The merge on the Pacesetter is a joke, it has to be the worst merge I've ever seen, while the TSP is easily one of the best.

Hooker's is equally shitty :eyes:

thanks it hung so damn low no matter what i did i ended up getting a used pacesetter y that fit perfectly and had the tsp merge cut and welded on. loved the merge but the fitment was horrible for me no matter what i tried the pacesetter slipped on in 5 mins no problems. I know some people have no problem fitting it but most do i was under the most category

Yeah when the cam goes in i plan to hack off the TSP merge for a 3.5 flowmaster merge.

Ok you've had all day where's are video and review?!?!?:drive:
lol Cars on hold till the 19th since i ordered some header gaskets.

Mine fits great, I just hope when I hack off that bottle neck part and make it a true 3 inch merge, some of the rasp goes away

Yeah thats exactly what i plan on doing but ill be doing a dump with a 3 inch bullet magnaflow muff.

Yeah when the cam goes in i plan to hack off the TSP merge for a 3.5 flowmaster merge.

I just bought a 3in in 4in out FM Merge & a 4in DMH Cutout (a budget version of patrick g's setup). I cant wait to get it installed. My Hooker y pipe has a god awful merge and sounds like shit at certain rpms....:cheers:

The TSP merge on their y pipes is beautiful, however trying to get the thing to fit on headers was terrible...so I returned it. I wish I could have used it as it was tremedous pipe work lol.

I just bought a 3in in 4in out FM Merge & a 4in DMH Cutout (a budget version of patrick g's setup). I cant wait to get it installed. My Hooker y pipe has a god awful merge and sounds like shit at certain rpms....:cheers:


Ive seen that thread, must sound badass with the cutout open!

What a piece of shit. lol Bout to cut off my stock muffler off! Everything is ready to install, just waiting on tommorow.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7599789556_ef491ef4e0_b.jpg

Edit:


Just cut the old exhaust off.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7599994376_2496fa798b_b.jpg

Update: Just tried to test fit the y-pipe and yeah passanger side collector doesn't slide into the pipe so im grinding the shit out of my longtubes. -___- sick fitment bro.

Mine went together flawlessly, and tucks up nice. Strange. My only gripe was that I wish it came with band clamps. I had mine welded up

Mine went together flawlessly, and tucks up nice. Strange. My only gripe was that I wish it came with band clamps. I had mine welded up

Yeah your lucky lol i was outside for about an hour trying to grind down the collector enough so it could slid into the y pipe. It slides in now but still needs a bit more work, getting another bit tommorow to get at it some more.

Here are some pics

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8158/7600913324_a44fb3ec9e_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8281/7600916492_75383c457a_c.jpg

So far that's not to bad and once your hear those long tubes singing through that bullet muffler you will forget all about this little stuff.:cheers:

So far that's not to bad and once your hear those long tubes singing through that bullet muffler you will forget all about this little stuff.:cheers:

Yeah man can't wait to get them both on. So far the passenger side is on. :cheers:

For those of you not sure if to get GM header gaskets or the vicotr reinz gaskets from autozone heres some comparison pics between the two. Other than the gasket sealing inside they are identical.

The old ones are the GM ones New is Victor Reinz.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8019/7605896028_c59996061c_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7113/7605881558_304ca8101a_b.jpg

TSP Y-Pipe has terrible fitment issues. Pipe spreader + Welder = Success

TSP Y-Pipe has terrible fitment issues. Pipe spreader + Welder = Success

Wasn't too bad getting it to slip onto the collector, took like an hour and a half of grinding but oh well. Tommorow im going to finally tackle the TSP ORY install, after 20000 bumps in the road i finally got the pacesetters on. Heres an open header video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHxBYVCUyI

Why didn't you go with their headers too? Totally worth it IMO, stainless instead of the cheap ceramic coating Pacesetter uses.

Why didn't you go with their headers too? Totally worth it IMO, stainless instead of the cheap ceramic coating Pacesetter uses.

I cheaped out. I found the pacesetters for $220 shipped brand new and said fuck it, and went with it. Im trying to do as much as i can with the least amount of money. Next after the exhaust is P&P TB, and a 25% UDP, and some more creative weight reduction.

Price list so far
$220 LT
$150 ORY
$60 magnaflow bullet
Exhaust shop should charge $80-$100 to get the dump done.


I Should have around $700ish (including P&P TB, and UDP) into it when its all said and done.

Edit: I had a buddy with a TSP ORY BNIB he as going to sell to me for like $90 but he sold out last minute.

Nothing wrong with pacesetters, they work just fine,the tsp ory isnt that bad just takes some time to get right,i got pretty pissed installing mine,but it fit pretty good

This Y-Pipe fits like junk, im going to an exhaust shop to get it all welded together. I wouldn't buy this unless you PLAN on having it welded up anyways. Im really upset with how it fits too, it hangs pretty low. Lets see what this exhaust shop can do.

To me, this thread is really informative. I've been considering installing an identical setup on my Camaro, and I really appreciate your documentation. I hate that you're having this great difficulty, but, for what it's worth, it looks like you'll be helping out those of us who plan to follow in your footsteps.

Thanks for carrying the torch, bro!

To me, this thread is really informative. I've been considering installing an identical setup on my Camaro, and I really appreciate your documentation. I hate that you're having this great difficulty, but, for what it's worth, it looks like you'll be helping out those of us who plan to follow in your footsteps.

Thanks for carrying the torch, bro!

Yeah man no prob! thats the exact point i was trying to cover, since everything is very vague on this particular ORY thought id be nice to document my personal process.

Update:

Just got back from the exhaust shop and the exhaust sounds alright alot quiter than i thought, it hits somewhere on the floor board and the car is slow as shit. I got to go Check out the SES lights and see what it is. I think it might need a tune bad or something. At WOT it does sound amazing though.

Just incase anyone knows but does anyone have an issue with there cars not passing 5500 RPMs? My car is doing this and i THINK it might be valve float.


To sum up the TSP ORY, it is nice quality, but the way it fits is shit, and the clamps they send with it are garbage. IMO, to be able to get the ORY on properly and effectively you NEED to consider taking it to get welded. I kinda screwed up how i did the dump but ill just deal with that later. Im sort of sick and tired of dealing with it right now.

For the little bit you have into it I wouldn't be to mad with it having a few issues along the way but that just me. Lt+ory+bullet dumped and you don't think it's loud wow thats crazy I think there really deep but not as loud when you dump it instead of running it out the back.

Talk about kick in the jewels all that work and now your cars running like crap that sucks dude I feel your pain when I put a built rear end in my 89 gta I took off the lift and didn't get a mile before the tranny went out.....:cry:

For the little bit you have into it I wouldn't be to mad with it having a few issues along the way but that just me. Lt+ory+bullet dumped and you don't think it's loud wow thats crazy I think there really deep but not as loud when you dump it instead of running it out the back.

Talk about kick in the jewels all that work and now your cars running like crap that sucks dude I feel your pain when I put a built rear end in my 89 gta I took off the lift and didn't get a mile before the tranny went out.....:cry:

Its really not that loud IMO, lol i guess im used to open header or 3" dumped exhaust gutted hondas, THAT is loud. But Its completely tolerable for a Daily driver, IMO. At WOT it sounds epic.

Def upset, ive been working on it for a week and a couple days, ive ran into a bunch of annoying issues, and my hands are decimated. Im gonna just take it day by day from now on and eventually get everything sorted out. Thanks for your comment though!

Video up, sorry for the shit audio quality but all i have is my laptop to record ATM. lol its a bit raspy because of the way i did the dump, tilted sideways with a 3inch, realized i cut the ORY to far back and it ended up being a 3.5" at the merge. So i just shoved the 3" piping in there sorta sideways and got it welded up for now. Ill fix it sometime later on, it should eliminate all of the rasp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnL1xpKBvpM&feature=youtu.be

Got an incar vid of me and my buddy eating shit lol i steped on it at like 10 mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL0ixVhp128