MikeWS6

I have been planning to get a T2 cam this fall but I am not sure if its exactly what I want. I do not want to lose any torque down low. Would the 228R be a better choice for me? Would both sound pretty nasty with my exhaust setup?

My only mods are

Pacesetter long tube headers
Tsp off road y pipe
Slp lm1
Ls6 intake
Slp lid

intenseblue

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Yes and yes to the 228R from a Torquer V2 owner

MikeWS6

I forgot to add that its a 6 speed.

njmaster

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228R is an awesome cam! I am pleased with mine. It sounds great and performs flawlessly. It has power everywhere. Best decision I have made with my car so far.

01ssreda4

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228r is a better overall cam then the V2 IMO.

98Grnz28

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I have the exact setup in my girlfriends 01 Z28. I just put the 228r on a 110LSA in. Really choppy. It starts pulling as soon as you hit the throttle. I just got done tuning it last weekend with my afr at 12.8-12.9. It will walk off on a 2004 Cobra with a pulley, cai and exhaust from 60 kick.

intenseblue

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My Torquer V.2 is a 112lsa/110icl I don't feel like swapping it now for such minor differences but if I could go back and do it again I would have done a 228/232 111lsa on a 109.

smileyou

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Why would you have done a 228/232 111lsa on a 109... what would make this cam different than a TV2?? What makes this better?

bestlude

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i went with the Tv2, pulls hard up top... i would recommend you get 4.10's for any cam of that size though..

intenseblue

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Running TEA LS6 heads. If they ever come off they'll be replaced with AFRs. The cams I seen specced for Mamo's car and some of TEA's builds all contained four degree splits. The downsize on the intake duration and ICL changes would promote more bottom end performance but at the same time I believe the similar overlap would help keep the sound I like and also keep a similar top end charge. Maybe not past peak but i usually shift my car around 6600 with the rev limiter set to 6800.

I'm no cam expert but I do believe I'd gain alot more under 5k and doubt I'd feel much if any difference above it.

Both Damian of Spartan Performance and Ed Curtis of Flowtech Induction use this cam. Both of them use a more agressive intake lobe than exhaust. The duration is larger on the exhaust but the ramp rate isn't and the intake lobe contains more lift. This will make the camshaft a reverse split pattern or single pattern in the lower lifts which I've read seem to favor applications where the heads flow more than the intake manifolds. Seems to me this situation would apply to any ls6/fast intake user.

smileyou

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With the 4.10's the gas mileage would be significantly cut. Pairing that with the cam would mean that i would have even worse mpg.

The more I look at the trade offs.. i might get the 228r because I dont want a pig downlow. And the peak hp tradeoff isnt worth the sacrifice of torque.

intenseblue

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4.10s didn't affect my gas mileage. Cam will affect city mileage slightly.

MikeWS6

So the T2 will lose a bit down low but will dyno 385-400 and the 228R wont lose any down low and will dyno 380-390. Does that sound about right?

intenseblue

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T2 loses some snap down low definately. I've seen mixed reviews on the 228s losing a little or remaining the same but either way if it loses a little it doesn't seem to bother anyone I've heard review it. I'd lean towards the 380 number just to be comfortable with the outcome but that sounds on par with what I've seen

TXZ28LS1

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The 228 is a good all around size. But after awhile you will wish you would have went slightly bigger. I would look into the Torquer 2 over the 228.

batman_ls1

i have a 00 T/A m6 with 228r, stock 241 heads, typhoon 96mm intake, full exhaust, and strange S60 with 4.10s i put down 406hp 376tq i love the 228r have i buddies with cams in the 240 duration's and i still beat them even top end wise i think the 228r on a 112 or 111 is the way to go

Redbull87

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Either cam isnt a bad choice.Im happy with my 228r..I think its a great all round cam.Im much lower compression being an stock lq4 so I dont make as much power compared to an ls1 with the same cam.But 228r with your mods with a good tune and maybe change the gear will be good very close 400rwhp.If you want it nasty sounding..228r on 110lsa sounds sweet to me lol.Tv2 has a slightly higher power curve and you would want to change gear to take better advantage of it from what Ive seen.It was my second choice of cam as well but when I realistically looked at my how much I drive the car in the upper rpms..its wasnt what I needed.

A custom cam inbetween both of these wouldnt be bad at all to consider.

This car sounded great to me:
http://youtu.be/C7TfcCbxYpE

KTK Z28

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Im running the Torquer V2, and am happy with the results. I always felt that these cars were not very strong down low anyways... I have never personally driven a 228R/bolt on LS1 car but i've driven a few LS fbodies with smaller cams (224R) and was never really impressed with the lower rpm power. As far as the V2 I would say that it does feel a little soft cruising around at part throttle but if your a 6speed its not that big of a deal. I can still EASILY get on the freeway without going over 2500 rpm at part throttle just leaning on the gas.

I went with the V2 because I saw the power results that many were getting and they sound pretty nasty especially on a 112 or 111 LSA. I think either one you will be happy with, they are both excellent choices for a 6 speed car.

MikeWS6

I love how both sound

T2



228R

jaywill

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I'm. New to the ls base motors. Who makes these cams?