View Full Version : Stock Navi screen protective glass... To replace or refinish??


NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 05:37 PM
Hey guys,
Just curious if anyone has any suggestion on a replacement or how to refinish the glass on the navi unit. I didn't think mine was in bad shape but now that i've removed the face plate to replace all the buttons, knobs and the face plate itself with all factory replacement parts that i ordered from Luke at Lindsay Cadillac (because i was tired of looking at the chipped buttons), I'm realizing the protective screen has more marks and scratches than i initially thought. It was just hard to tell when it was installed in the car.

I know Luke offers a factory replacement protective lense for $100. I almost ordered it at the time but considering the faceplate, all buttons and both knobs only cost me $150 or so, i couldn't bring myself to spend the extra $100 on the lense when mine really wasn't that bad... Or so i thought.

I did i search and found a couple people suggesting to have a new piece of plexiglass cut to fit since its really nothing special. Probably much cheaper than dealer price even if you get a piece with the protective anti-glare coating. Also saw someone say they took the glass out, buffed all of the coating off of it and then cleaned it up and installed a protective anti-glare lay over sticker like one you would use on your iPhone and it worked great.

Problem is, i don't know if i trust myself to buff the lense like that without damaging it or messing it up. Im too anal for my own good when it comes to things like that. lol

So anyone have any other suggestions or a solution to this??? I need to get the radio back together and back in the car so im going to run to sears and buy the 3.2mm nut driver i need to do the buttons alone and then clean and reinstall it as is but with how easy the navi is to remove, i'll probably tackle the lense in the near future.

Thanks fellas!! :cheers:

RADEoN
07-18-2012, 05:46 PM
I'm gonna try buffing mine with PLASTX next time I go to my shop, I'll send you pics.

NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 05:53 PM
You gonna buff it with it installed or take it out and buff it?

I looked that stuff up and its main purpose is for clearing oxidized headlights. I would imagine it would work to remove the scratches and stuff but id assume it would remove all of the anti-glare coating which would make it hard to see and glare like a bitch in the sun... Unless you plan to re-apply some sort of anti-glare film afterward.

etcts-v
07-18-2012, 07:14 PM
Just replace it with a brand new piece of Acrylic from Home Depot, cost is $3 and it's the exact same thing that is in there stock.

If you want to get fancy you can pick up special non-glare from a plastic supplier. I got mine from TAP plastics which has a store here in Seattle but you can also order from them online, I got two pieces cut to size for $8.

http://www.tapplastics.com/

Here is Home Depot:

http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Acrylic-Sheets/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbrdg/R-202043333/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051

By the way this plastic polish does nothing but make it worse: http://www.tapplastics.com/product/repair_products/plastic_repair/novus_plastic_polishes/428

NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the help bud!!! What is the size of the stock glass? I'm out right now running around. Had to get the 1/8" (3.2mm) nut driver to take the buttons off the plate so I'll just grab a piece of acrilic while I'm out if someone has the size on hand??

I'm googling it as we speak but can't find a size for that piece of glass/plastic.

NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 07:41 PM
And if I get that 8"x10" piece, what could I use to trim it to size? Wish I would have brought the old glass with me. FML lol

chitown21y
07-18-2012, 07:42 PM
Hey if you still have the spare one let me know I will buy it off of you and meet up since we are Seattle V's!


Just replace it with a brand new piece of Acrylic from Home Depot, cost is $3 and it's the exact same thing that is in there stock.

If you want to get fancy you can pick up special non-glare from a plastic supplier. I got mine from TAP plastics which has a store here in Seattle but you can also order from them online, I got two pieces cut to size for $8.

http://www.tapplastics.com/

Here is Home Depot:

http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Acrylic-Sheets/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbrdg/R-202043333/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051

By the way this plastic polish does nothing but make it worse: http://www.tapplastics.com/product/repair_products/plastic_repair/novus_plastic_polishes/428

ColeGraham
07-18-2012, 08:53 PM
The real way of fixing a damaged nav screen...

First...

you need the jizz of a 3 year old unicorn. once you have obtained the unicorn semen, place it on the pelt of a platypus that has been rubbed on the taint of Rosie O'Donnell. if this pelt cannot be had, a towel made of the pubs of Oprah can work. But using this pub towel will drastically reduce the effectiveness of the treat. after you have you semen pelt or pub towel, you must then find a drag queen cowboy with nipple claps to sit on you nav screen. once your drag queen cowboy has been found and completed said spitting, take you semen pelt or pub towel and dip in a bucket fill with the tears of 500 tween girls who just some Justin Bieber play live show. wipe said tears the the screen of you nav system. now, this is by far the most import step of the process and can't be changed at all. you must dry the screen of the nav system will blowing air out of you mouth and simultaneously giving a hand job to both a member of the lollipop guild and to Chaz Bono.

and then...poof...good as new.

good luck on your quest Taylor...may you find fun and adventure.

NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 08:55 PM
Ok... Picked up the 8x10 acrylic. Im going to cut it to fit tonight and get all the buttons mounted in the new faceplate. Tomorrow before i install it, i want to find some kind of anti-glare layover to put on the glass before i install it too.

I wonder if i could use an anti glare lay over piece for an ipad and just cut it to fit the piece im using for the screen on the navi?

Or even better, if they sell that stuff in generic sizes that i can probably get somewhere much cheaper than a piece cut to fit an ipad already.

NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 09:04 PM
The real way of fixing a damaged nav screen...

First...

you need the jizz of a 3 year old unicorn. once you have obtained the unicorn semen, place it on the pelt of a platypus that has been rubbed on the taint of Rosie O'Donnell. if this pelt cannot be had, a towel made of the pubs of Oprah can work. But using this pub towel will drastically reduce the effectiveness of the treat. after you have you semen pelt or pub towel, you must then find a drag queen cowboy with nipple claps to sit on you nav screen. once your drag queen cowboy has been found and completed said spitting, take you semen pelt or pub towel and dip in a bucket fill with the tears of 500 tween girls who just some Justin Bieber play live show. wipe said tears the the screen of you nav system. now, this is by far the most import step of the process and can't be changed at all. you must dry the screen of the nav system will blowing air out of you mouth and simultaneously giving a hand job to both a member of the lollipop guild and to Chaz Bono.

and then...poof...good as new.

good luck on your quest Taylor...may you find fun and adventure.

Shit... If thats all i had to do, i would have replaced the screen long ago... lol :secret2:

NeverSatisfied02
07-18-2012, 11:19 PM
Ok... Got the lexan and cut it to size. Fits and looks perfect. Just need to pick up some anti-glare film and ill be set!!! :)

9t8z28
07-19-2012, 10:59 AM
The stock plastic lense has a non-glare film added to it. Its not just regular plexi-glass.

soulja
07-19-2012, 11:03 AM
I think this will be another project added to my long list.

soulja
07-19-2012, 11:04 AM
Post some pics when you have finished.

NeverSatisfied02
07-19-2012, 11:36 AM
I know that. I'm gettin an anti glare film for the screen. The stock anti-glare isn't that great anyway.

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 01:33 PM
Ok... Picked up the 8x10 acrylic. Im going to cut it to fit tonight and get all the buttons mounted in the new faceplate. Tomorrow before i install it, i want to find some kind of anti-glare layover to put on the glass before i install it too.

I wonder if i could use an anti glare lay over piece for an ipad and just cut it to fit the piece im using for the screen on the navi?

Or even better, if they sell that stuff in generic sizes that i can probably get somewhere much cheaper than a piece cut to fit an ipad already.

Sorry just saw this, I use a band saw to cut but a razor blade works as well. At TAP they will cut it to size for you, I did the non-glare in mine and it's like a whole new NAV!

Side note, anybody know the trick to placing multiple quotes in one post?

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 01:34 PM
The stock plastic lense has a non-glare film added to it. Its not just regular plexi-glass.

which is why I said you can get non-glare

TAP NON-GLARE Acrylic: http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plastics/cut_to_size_plastic/acrylic_sheets_p99_non_glare_clear/514

Home Depot NON-GLARE:
http://www.homedepot.com/buy/11-in-x-14-in-non-glare-acrylic-sheet-310048.html

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 01:43 PM
Hey if you still have the spare one let me know I will buy it off of you and meet up since we are Seattle V's!

I don't but I'd be happy to pick up a piece for you, I drive by on my way to work, would love to check out your V! I'm taking mine down to Wong's Performance in Vancouver WA next friday for a tune following my cam & head install.

Tap kicks-ass, they have all the plastic, epoxy, fiberglass or bulk window tinting you could ever need! The have gigantic sheets of fiberglass matt and huge buckets of resin, any kind of plastic you could ever need! Right next store is a foam store should you ever do any upholstery work.

chitown21y
07-19-2012, 02:35 PM
Good tuner? I need one after my LT install i just finished. Price?

I don't but I'd be happy to pick up a piece for you, I drive by on my way to work, would love to check out your V! I'm taking mine down to Wong's Performance in Vancouver WA next friday for a tune following my cam & head install.

Tap kicks-ass, they have all the plastic, epoxy, fiberglass or bulk window tinting you could ever need! The have gigantic sheets of fiberglass matt and huge buckets of resin, any kind of plastic you could ever need! Right next store is a foam store should you ever do any upholstery work.

NeverSatisfied02
07-19-2012, 02:40 PM
I bought standard acrylic and figured I'd just get a lay over. Now that I know they sell non-glare... I'll just spend another $3 and get another piece and cut it again. Easier than hunting for a lay over.

However, I think the thickness on the non-glare was much thinner than what comes in there which is why I went standard acrylic last night.

Noticed as I was installing my buttons, the dot buttons are different on the top 3 than the bottom 3. 3 have a male type tip that slides in a groove and 3 have a female type tip that slide over a groove on the faceplate. Well... They sent me 4 and 2! FML! So I put it all back together with one old button and the old glass for now and just reinstalled it in the car. I'll have to pull it back out Monday or Tuesday when the button Luke and Lindsay is sending me for replacement arrives so in the meantime, I'll figure out the best solution for the acrylic.

So... Get the same thickness acrylic that comes factory but in clear and add a anti-glare film myself or get the thinner anti-glare acrylic and see if it works. It's about half as thick though.

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 03:23 PM
I bought standard acrylic and figured I'd just get a lay over. Now that I know they sell non-glare... I'll just spend another $3 and get another piece and cut it again. Easier than hunting for a lay over.

However, I think the thickness on the non-glare was much thinner than what comes in there which is why I went standard acrylic last night.

Noticed as I was installing my buttons, the dot buttons are different on the top 3 than the bottom 3. 3 have a male type tip that slides in a groove and 3 have a female type tip that slide over a groove on the faceplate. Well... They sent me 4 and 2! FML! So I put it all back together with one old button and the old glass for now and just reinstalled it in the car. I'll have to pull it back out Monday or Tuesday when the button Luke and Lindsay is sending me for replacement arrives so in the meantime, I'll figure out the best solution for the acrylic.

So... Get the same thickness acrylic that comes factory but in clear and add a anti-glare film myself or get the thinner anti-glare acrylic and see if it works. It's about half as thick though.

You might consider ordering from TAP, they can give you any thickness you want. With that said, I don't think the thickness will make a huge difference since it's not a touch screen, that is if it is thick enough for those little clips that hold the screen down and prevent it from sliding or moving around.

I also agree that the non-glare doesn't make a huge difference, it's nice but not a deal breaker necessarily.

When I installed mine I put a small bead of clear silicone around the outside edges to hold it in place just to be sure, didn't want to pull the nav unit apart again.

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 03:32 PM
Good tuner? I need one after my LT install i just finished. Price?

Best tuner in the area! All the F-body guys on the Northwest section of this forum rave about him, if you do a search of that section you will see a grip of posts. LS motors is all he does lots of custom builds & tunes on corvettes.

Here is his facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wongs-Performance-Engineering/115667950915

Tune is $450 which is compariable with all the other tuners in this area, I got quotes from everyone before I found Wong.

I went out to Horsepower Ranch last year which is just up Tiger Mountain Road in Maple Valley, he has a kick ass place with a huge shop and lots of nice cars that he tunes and races, however you have to own a Diablo Sport Predator handheld for him to do the tune. Here is his website: http://hpranch.com/

There is also a well known V8 tuner in Kirkland call Carb Connection, the've done a lot of corevette's as well and the tune is the same price $450, however I've been told that Wong is worth the drive and the best in the business so I'm going that route. Here is carbb connection: http://www.carbconn.com/

NeverSatisfied02
07-19-2012, 04:24 PM
You might consider ordering from TAP, they can give you any thickness you want. With that said, I don't think the thickness will make a huge difference since it's not a touch screen, that is if it is thick enough for those little clips that hold the screen down and prevent it from sliding or moving around.

I also agree that the non-glare doesn't make a huge difference, it's nice but not a deal breaker necessarily.

When I installed mine I put a small bead of clear silicone around the outside edges to hold it in place just to be sure, didn't want to pull the nav unit apart again.

Yeah, my only concern would be the glass moving around if it's not the same thickness. Other than that, I'm sure it's not a big deal.

If I order from TAP, will it come cut already with the coating on it? How much did it run u?

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 04:54 PM
Yeah, my only concern would be the glass moving around if it's not the same thickness. Other than that, I'm sure it's not a big deal.

If I order from TAP, will it come cut already with the coating on it? How much did it run u?

If I remember right is was like $8 to $10 for two pieces, looks like online they want $10 for a piece, probably to justify their cost of shipping one small piece. looks like the thickest they go online for this is 1/8" so it may not be worth it.

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad335/ellioth3771/TAP.jpg

NeverSatisfied02
07-19-2012, 05:29 PM
Hmm... Thanks for the info bud! I wonder if I buy the thinner non-glare lexan from home depot along with the regular thicker lexan if I could fit the non glare in front? Like stack them. That way it would have the thickness with the non-glare piece in front. Don't see why that wouldn't work unless it makes it too thick but the stock glass has some room to move so I might have enough room to work with.

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 06:13 PM
Hmm... Thanks for the info bud! I wonder if I buy the thinner non-glare lexan from home depot along with the regular thicker lexan if I could fit the non glare in front? Like stack them. That way it would have the thickness with the non-glare piece in front. Don't see why that wouldn't work unless it makes it too thick but the stock glass has some room to move so I might have enough room to work with.

It's worth a shot! The piece I used was a little thin which is why I used a bead of the silicon to hold it in place, if you are able to stack it though that would be a better option i would think.

NeverSatisfied02
07-19-2012, 06:36 PM
It's worth a shot! The piece I used was a little thin which is why I used a bead of the silicon to hold it in place, if you are able to stack it though that would be a better option i would think.

Ok cool. I'll try that. Picked up the non-glare lexan today so I'll cut it tonight and fit it to my old faceplate. Should have the replacement buttons in on Monday Luke said so I can finish it completely and then re-install it all again. I think it'll work like that. May be a tight fit but I'd rather that then have it moving around in there.

Thanks for all of your help with this!! :cheers:

etcts-v
07-19-2012, 06:40 PM
Ok cool. I'll try that. Picked up the non-glare lexan today so I'll cut it tonight and fit it to my old faceplate. Should have the replacement buttons in on Monday Luke said so I can finish it completely and then re-install it all again. I think it'll work like that. May be a tight fit but I'd rather that then have it moving around in there.

Thanks for all of your help with this!! :cheers:

Enjoy the new NAV!

Q_Congdon
11-03-2012, 05:30 PM
The radio came out easily, and the face of the radio came off easily. The non-glare styrene went in smoothly. Murphy struck when trying to reassemble the faceplate to the chassis. There are two white multi-pin connectors attached to a circuit board. These hold the ribbon cable connectors attached to the face. When reinserting them, the connectors popped off the circuit board. They are attached in an extremely flimsy fashion (that I could tell.) I tried epoxying them back on, but it seems the pins in the back of the connectors are no longer touching the metal pads on the circuit board. The buttons on either side of the newly clean screen are no longer functional. Back to the dealer to swap out the head unit... $$$$...

plasticcraft1
11-17-2012, 03:33 AM
An Acrylic sheets (http://www.plastic-craft.com/) can be a very good replacement for a glass.

etcts-v
11-17-2012, 04:13 AM
The radio came out easily, and the face of the radio came off easily. The non-glare styrene went in smoothly. Murphy struck when trying to reassemble the faceplate to the chassis. There are two white multi-pin connectors attached to a circuit board. These hold the ribbon cable connectors attached to the face. When reinserting them, the connectors popped off the circuit board. They are attached in an extremely flimsy fashion (that I could tell.) I tried epoxying them back on, but it seems the pins in the back of the connectors are no longer touching the metal pads on the circuit board. The buttons on either side of the newly clean screen are no longer functional. Back to the dealer to swap out the head unit... $$$$...

This has happened to a lot of people, myself included. You can fix by soldering the pins to the pads if you have the skills. Or go aftermarket like I finally did!