Florida Members - Orlando speed world in trouble/closing?




marksceta
07-23-2012, 08:48 AM
In a concerted effort to work collaboratively with the County and residents of South Chase, the Central Florida Racing Complex has effectively ceased all drag racing at the complex until final determination of the Board of County Commissioners. The hearing before the Board of County Commissioner will be on Tuesday, August 7, 2012 at 2:00 p.m. Please come and show your support for the Central Florida Racing Complex. Contact Track Manager Vinny Barber at 407-812-4004, to let him know if you plan to attend and to get a Support Our Track T-Shirt. You may also contact your local County Commissioner or Mayor at the following if you feel strongly that drag racing on our local track and our educational programs make a real difference in curtailing illegal
street racing:

It sounds like the samething that happened to Jacksoville and other tracks.
http://cfracingcomplex.com/
We need to pack the hearing with racers in support of the track.


+badss+
07-23-2012, 09:46 AM
And they wonder why street racing is so big in the us. looks like ill be heading to PBIR now. Hope they can get OSW reopened.

ec_nova
07-23-2012, 03:28 PM
CFRC is not Orlando Speed World... But yes OSW is closing at the end of the year. Hopefully somebody will buy it and actually run it properly. That place has gone downhill so much in recent years, I'm surprised it lasted this long. As far as CFRC goes, who cares. I've been there twice and that place is complete garbage IMO. Chaotic, unorganized, and the crowd there sucks.

As far as I'm concerned, it's well worth the 2 hour drive to Gainesville. More runs and better track prep!


Blackbird-WS6
07-23-2012, 03:56 PM
And they wonder why street racing is so big in the us. looks like ill be heading to PBIR now. Hope they can get OSW reopened.

i thought they where making a track in palm bay, whatever happened with that?

lt1srule
07-23-2012, 04:49 PM
Back to the streets guys .They close our tracks and think were just going to park our cars i think not .They will find later that they fudged up .Walmart is buying the property to build a distribution center there ...

Christian Dionne
07-23-2012, 05:18 PM
I've talked with Carl Weisenger, the owner of OSW, a few weeks ago. He was not 100% on closing yet. His lease expires at the end of 2012, with a 1 year option to renew. He's asking for a decent amount to sell his equipment,, and might not get it this year. He has the right to refuse any deal with the owner of the property, to change its use.

I am personally looking into doing something with OSW , but probably won't happen this year.


CFRC is a POS, and the crowd sucks.

ec_nova
07-23-2012, 05:53 PM
Carl Weisenger, is not the owner of OSW,he leases it .

he OWNS the business OSW, but leases the land. I don't think he could have been more clear...

lt1srule
07-23-2012, 05:56 PM
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483319&page=2

lt1srule
07-23-2012, 05:57 PM
Whatever,

badhombre
07-23-2012, 07:33 PM
I have been to cfrc, and thought it was a nice facility. but this was over a year ago and I have never run there. but from what I saw their prep wasn't done very well. as far as OSW, I haven't heard any good things about that place in a long time. I kinda hope it goes through the same transformation lakeland has gone through. from being a garbage track that not even the locals want to run at, to now attracting regional and national events. I know of a local car that was recently destroyed because of OSW's lack of prep and terrible racing surface

Redline Fab
07-23-2012, 08:58 PM
It really does suck that both tracks are in trouble either way. I have been to both tracks and like them both. All tho I would rather race the 1/4 then the 1/8. It's not always the tracks fault with prep issues. They both need to have real tech inspections and keep the cars that aren't track worthy off the racing surface. Nothing like watching parts fall of or fly off for that matter, and I've seen both happen from the imports and the domestics. And then the good old launch of the car to watch sand and dirt fly out from the wheel wells. I've been to both tracks and people were complaining about prep, and I stand my car on the bumper. Like I said, either way it sucks.....

Villain281H
07-24-2012, 05:49 PM
Yep, don't need to be losing any tracks in Florida. Had several racers that I know run Orlando come up to Gainesville / Auto-Plus this past Saturday, and a few told me it doesn't look promising for Orlando to run next year. Hopefully someone/a group will get on it and keep the track alive.

Derek

Whistler
07-25-2012, 12:03 AM
I can see some of the motorsports businesses leaving Orlando as well should the track close down.

2nd Gen Fl 'bird
07-25-2012, 10:39 AM
Carl is the reason OSW has declined over the years. He did YOU a favor by letting you run a car there, not by patronizing the business. Basically that kind of attitude towards racers and spectators.

Steve68
07-25-2012, 02:21 PM
we all need to gather up and fight Wal-Mart if this happens, We need to keep some of orange county rural,

but I'm thinking that it will keep on going next year, I'm hoping........

white1999z71
07-25-2012, 03:25 PM
Well I realy hope someone steps up to the plate and does something with osw it has the potential to be a nice racetrack and it's 10 mins from home

white1999z71
07-25-2012, 03:37 PM
The whole wal mart rumor is false wal Mart bought joes truck parts out there and are buying the junkyard next to joes and are gonna build a center there they will be open next year is what I was just told, though they do need cooperation from new symerna speedway to get more big events. So I'm guessing they need cooperation from the heart family who own both property's

Blackbird-WS6
07-25-2012, 03:56 PM
The whole wal mart rumor is false wal Mart bought joes truck parts out there and are buying the junkyard next to joes and are gonna build a center there they will be open next year is what I was just told, though they do need cooperation from new symerna speedway to get more big events. So I'm guessing they need cooperation from the heart family who own both property's

holyshit, joes is gone?? i buy alot of parts from him

thanks for the heads up

white1999z71
07-25-2012, 04:06 PM
Not gone yet but soon

Blackbird-WS6
07-25-2012, 04:20 PM
that sucks

keeps us updated if you can, thanks

Villain281H
07-25-2012, 07:40 PM
Carl is the reason OSW has declined over the years. He did YOU a favor by letting you run a car there, not by patronizing the business. Basically that kind of attitude towards racers and spectators.
According to what I've heard, Randy has been running that track as much if not more than Carl for a while now. Carl and Randy don't see eye-to-eye, and with Carl wanting to race more (running a super clean '60 Mopar Super stock car), I think the writing was on the wall.

Steve68
07-25-2012, 08:34 PM
The whole wal mart rumor is false wal Mart bought joes truck parts out there and are buying the junkyard next to joes and are gonna build a center there they will be open next year is what I was just told, though they do need cooperation from new symerna speedway to get more big events. So I'm guessing they need cooperation from the heart family who own both property's

rumors happen,

Fed Ex was supposed to buy all the land where Lk Pickett and Chuluota Rd back in the mid 90's that didn't happen, hopefully they move somewhere else,

firebird99
07-26-2012, 06:15 PM
It's going to be a sad day for either track to close down because it's a place where cars guys go to gather and have some safe fun without breaking laws or putting others at risk and by closing them the amount of street races and tickets will rise because people are going to race regardless.

firebird99
07-26-2012, 06:22 PM
i thought they where making a track in palm bay, whatever happened with that?

It was supposed to be a complex (road course,oval,.25 mile drag strip)behind the flea market off 95 and they had the land the track layouts and where even on the nhra schedule for races but when the main investor passed away his family took his money and ran and it all fell apart. My old boss was one of the investors involved and tried to find other investors but the group as a whole decided to walk away for there own reasons and now the county has changed there ways to prevent anyone from ever being able to put a track in.

Steve01SS
07-26-2012, 08:26 PM
Damn that sucks. Been out of the whole car scene. We used to go all the time about 10 years ago to watch or a couple people would run here and there. Had a 3rd gen back then. Then all the rice flooded in when Fast and the Furious came out and it was a joke. Could get like 2 runs in per night. Then lost interest and stopped going completely. It used to be good cheap fun.

However, we went out there about 6 months ago to watch and had a great time. All the rice was gone and was just a bunch of fast cars. Quite a few 8-9 sec cars. I was quite surprised. I thought it was the best it had been in years, really sorry to hear this. Times are changing I guess. There really needs to be a place to keep the clowns off the street though.

Steve68
07-26-2012, 08:27 PM
It was supposed to be a complex (road course,oval,.25 mile drag strip)behind the flea market off 95 and they had the land the track layouts and where even on the nhra schedule for races but when the main investor passed away his family took his money and ran and it all fell apart. My old boss was one of the investors involved and tried to find other investors but the group as a whole decided to walk away for there own reasons and now the county has changed there ways to prevent anyone from ever being able to put a track in.

I heard it was a noise problem, supposedly there was some testing done with a Malibu and a sound meter, thats what I heard long ago,

All the Rice went to CFRC, thank you, please stay there!!!

Fonzi383
07-27-2012, 07:36 AM
I Disagree with EC_Nova CFRC is way better than speed world and they pay out alot more for races and take racer input. I agree with Badhombre lakeland is great just started racing there and leading the points love the track and people.

2nd Gen Fl 'bird
07-27-2012, 08:13 AM
I Disagree with EC_Nova CFRC is way better than speed world and they pay out alot more for races and take racer input. I agree with Badhombre lakeland is great just started racing there and leading the points love the track and people.

Point made. Pay out has diminished over the years at "Spin World". I've heard it over and over from many racers that have given up racing there and started driving over to St. Pete and Bradenton. Catering to racers and what their input might be keeps the car count up, obviously. No race cars, no spectators= no cash flow and there goes the quality.

firebird99
07-28-2012, 03:40 AM
I heard it was a noise problem, supposedly there was some testing done with a Malibu and a sound meter, thats what I heard long ago,

All the Rice went to CFRC, thank you, please stay there!!!

There was a concern with noise but when they where doing the testing from the trailer park (Opposite side of I-95) so they also had the interstate noise in there favor to help cancel out the race noise. He also said they went as far as having people in multiple cars,trucks and big trucks driving back and forth on I-95 during the testing to pass and they did. One of the biggest problems once the main money guy passed was instead of waiting to find another backer they thought they could sell the land and profit from that since it was at the uprise of the economic bubble we had a few years back and since then the county has changed codes and zoning to the point that it can't be done there again regardless of what they try(assuming anyone ever bought the land again) but that will never happen because the county now has plans to build a road parallel to I95 from viera to malabar but since there's no money it won'tF happen but it will prevent any further developing if the area.


They also were trying to build a track a few years back down in micco I believe but before it could even get going the county came in and closed down the atv track they already had there.