firebird99

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http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...let-camaro-zl1

IMO the best review yet.

Tainted

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Yup, the zl1 is still a pig that needs some extra go. Nice car, but they left so much on the table

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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pretty much the same thing other testers have concluded.


while a zl1 is less expensive a gt500 with more power justifies its cost.

Irunelevens

Great read.

D3VIL

My problem with this review is that they kept repeating "muscle cars aren't sport cars" Well with this much money you're paying you better damn sure do get a sports car, which they both are.

But their mentality is absolutely incorrect that these cars DON'T NEED to handle... It's a shame really.

firebird99

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Not to be rude but what are you talking about? They mention that muscle cars aren't sports cars once and technically there right. Also at what point did they emphasize that these cars "don't need to handle"? I agree with you that for the money you should get a complete package and you do with either car.

JD_AMG

They are not sports cars. Sports cars have 2 seats and independent suspension. These are muscle cars/coupes or GT's.
"Sport car" or "muscle car" is simply the chassis setup, that doesn't mean a muscle car can't out perform a sports car.

Irunelevens

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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i believe pony cars is the correct description.

88blackgt

Pony cars is right 2 plus 2 seating is the main reason

SS#1531

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So they take the cars to the track, but the lap times have no calculation in the points total? Seems unfair to the ZL1.

baalic

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Am i the only one that sees a pulley, bolt on, zl1 destroying the gt500 at EVERYTHING. I mean who goes to the track and keeps things stock... Sure the gt500 guy could upgrade too, but arguably it would be much more expensive and albeit impossible to make it handle better then the zl1 especially once aftermarket comes put for the zl1.



Both great cars, but at the end of the day, the gt500 is still a mustang.. And camaro still a camaro.

-Ross-

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Pardon?

ThisBlood147

Par for the course IMO. Most of the other comparison articles thus far have ignored all the performance metrics in favor of picking the Camaro over the GT500. The fact that they did so here as well shouldn't surprise anyone.

The Shelby is only a tire change away from being right on par with the ZL1 at the track if you ask me. "285's are the biggest tire that will fit in the back of the GT500"...........my ***. I've had 305's on the back of my 05 GT once at the track, and not only did they fit...but they looked like they belonged on the car. You don't push 600+hp out through rear tires that damn small. The hell is wrong with them Ford engineers???

HioSSilver

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^^^^ Tire change on the shelby....lol Just think about a good set of r-compound tire on the ZL1.....that thing would be insane.

Wow the camaro looked so much more composed on the road course. You can tell from watching the vid it responds to the driver very well. I wish it had a bit more power.

nanokpsi

I don't know, if it were me I would take the base gt500 and mod away. 1500 under the hood nets more than 700whp and 4k-5k in suspension gets you a fully adjustable suspension with coilovers, torque arm and a watts link. A bolt on ZL1 would not come close to it...anywhere.

HioSSilver

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It might take a ZR1 blower. But mod for mod the ZL1 is gonna come out on top. Didn't you see how much more composed the ZL was over the GT500? That's more than shocks and springs are gonna get you. That is torsional rigidity at work.

Blackpony

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Probably one of the best comparisons I have seen. Very un biased, and seems to be tested with both very good drivers in every aspect.

-Ross-

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Please explain.

Johnnystock

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explains x2, how can a 480rwhp car can be on top of another mod for mod when the other is 600rwhp stock??