Carbureted LSX forum - msd 6010 question
smokeyrider05
08-05-2012, 07:18 PM
i'm thinking of buying the msd 6010 i was just wondering is when you buy from say jegs MSD Ignition #121-6010 its $319.99
http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD+Ignition/121/6010/10002/-1
question does this come complete with the 6 pills, data cable and harness to hook it up? or is EVERYTHING seperate?
thanks,
Doug G
08-05-2012, 07:24 PM
Yes it comes complete...I had same question :) All sitting on workbench.
Any way... check around on prices...I got mine from SKSpeed.com (sponsor on this site) and Mike smoked Jegs/Summit prices.
Here's their info...
Mike F
S-K Speed Racing Equipment
The Professional Performance People
www.skspeed.com
Super Sale on Edelbrock Manifolds/Fuel Rails/Coil Covers and more! PM Me for super deals!
Send me a PM before Buying Elsewhere. Best prices for LS1 Tech Members!
cuda620
08-05-2012, 07:41 PM
Got mine from jegs complete for 279.00. shop around online including amazon etc then jegs does price match.
smokeyrider05
08-05-2012, 08:02 PM
thanks guys, i really appreciate it
wildcamaro
08-05-2012, 08:54 PM
Yep price match JEGS but you have to count shipping for the matched price offer...they got me good with that one! I thought I was gonna get a msd 6010 for $215 and the site charged like $75 in shipping and JEGS busted me lol...good luck man you will really like the unit it is about the most user friendly wiring ignition set up I have seen...
Outlaw666
08-06-2012, 04:14 AM
Got mine from SK for a killer price and it arrived at my door 2 days later!
smokeyrider05
08-06-2012, 07:27 AM
Nice, thanks all
Cobra4B
08-06-2012, 01:45 PM
Timely post... I need to order this for my LS1 swap, but I was thinking the controller and harness were separate items.
The harness lists as a separate PN 60101 for $222???
http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD-Ignition/121/60101/10002/-1
onefast84
08-06-2012, 03:07 PM
It comes with that harness and all six pills!! Nice unit!!!
Beeterolds
08-06-2012, 05:13 PM
I bought my box for $264 + 12 bucks for shipping from Autoplicity.com
The box is even cheaper now.. $254
http://autoplicity.com/search.aspx?searchterms=msd+6010
They drop ship right from MSD to your door I cant see them making a fortune on the box selling it so cheap
ZONES89RS
08-06-2012, 06:01 PM
That is crazy, last I checked msd will not allow sales below 276 or so but that was a couple years ago.
smokeyrider05
08-06-2012, 06:03 PM
Thanks a million beeterolds
87caprice318
08-07-2012, 09:17 AM
dammit, i wish i would've knew that yesterday...I just ordered the red 6010 from JEGS yesterday for $319....i could've saved some pennies...but i also ordered the transdapt 4595 plates so oh well....dang 253.88 for that box, SSSSHHHHIIIIEEEETTTT!
Cobra4B
08-07-2012, 09:27 AM
I bought my box for $264 + 12 bucks for shipping from Autoplicity.com
The box is even cheaper now.. $254
http://autoplicity.com/search.aspx?searchterms=msd+6010
They drop ship right from MSD to your door I cant see them making a fortune on the box selling it so cheap
That link shows the older LS1/LS6 timing controller which isn't tunable. You can only use the pills.
vs.
The new MSD 6LS which is fully tunable.
See here - http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless_Ignitions/Ignitions/6010_-_MSD_6LS_Ignition_Controller_for_LS1-LS6_(24_tooth_crank_trigger)_Engines.aspx
Can anyone confirm which one Autoplicity is selling?
87caprice318
08-07-2012, 09:31 AM
^^the one you posted is the one I just ordered....But on Summits website, it also shows the black LS1/LS6 box when you search for (MSD 6010)...What if they are just differently labeled boxes or just a universal picture they have posted?
87caprice318
08-07-2012, 09:35 AM
See here on Summits site it has the same box/picture...I chose the red box because it would look better under my hood and it says 6LS and i didnt wanna take a chance!
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-6010/
Cobra4B
08-07-2012, 09:58 AM
^^the one you posted is the one I just ordered....But on Summits website, it also shows the black LS1/LS6 box when you search for (MSD 6010)...What if they are just differently labeled boxes or just a universal picture they have posted?
You ordered the one from Autoplicity? When you get it post up exactly what you get. If it's the proper red 6LS controller with the harness, data cable, and CD-rom then I'm sold and will order from them.
The stunningman
08-07-2012, 10:55 AM
If it has the rev limiter I would suspect it is definitely tunable. The edelbrock box only uses pills and there is no rev limiter feature at all.
Cobra4B
08-07-2012, 11:31 AM
My understanding is that there is no "Edelbrock" box. The box that comes with the basic Edelbrock kit is made by MSD and is the older LS1/LS6 box. It's black in color and only accepts pills. This one...
http://autoplicity.com/masterimages/full//MSD/6010.jpg
Then you have the MSD 6LS controller for the LS1/LS6 which is fully tunable. It's red and comes with the harness, data cable, and CD-Rom.
http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedimages/MSDIgnitioncom/Products/RPM_Timing_Controls/6010_full.jpg
Then you have the MSD 6LS2 for the LS2/LS3/LS7 etc.
Autoplicity and Summit are probably using old photos, but I'd want to verify 100% what I'm buying before I send payment.
87caprice318
08-07-2012, 11:33 AM
No, lol...i didnt order it from autoplicity...I ordered the 6LS (6010) from Jegs yesterday, the RED box...I was referring to the link YOU posted, lol..
See here - http://www.msdignition.com/Products/...)_Engines.aspx
thats how mines look according to the Jegs website and thats why I posted the other one I seen on Summits site yesterday which is the same pic as the one on Autoplicity...
87caprice318
08-07-2012, 11:38 AM
yea thats the one I ordered.....and thats why I said they might be using different pics or outdated pics because on Summits site, the link i posted, i typed in MSD 6010 and it went to that page with the same black box......
the Edelbrock box (box in intake Kit 7118 or sumn like that) it is also a red box that only says LS1 controller i think..
Cobra4B
08-07-2012, 11:46 AM
You're right... it just says LS1 Timing Control Module and does say "Edelbrock" on it.
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/edl-7118_cp.jpg
onefast84
08-07-2012, 02:35 PM
I have the older black one and it is fully tunable with the prodata+ software!!
ZONES89RS
08-07-2012, 08:21 PM
I have never had the black one, they never get them when I ask.
slinginrods
08-08-2012, 08:21 AM
Ok i was wondering the same thing ,is there a difference between the black one and the red one?
Beeterolds
08-08-2012, 09:05 PM
That link shows the older LS1/LS6 timing controller which isn't tunable. You can only use the pills.
vs.
The new MSD 6LS which is fully tunable.
See here - http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless_Ignitions/Ignitions/6010_-_MSD_6LS_Ignition_Controller_for_LS1-LS6_(24_tooth_crank_trigger)_Engines.aspx
Can anyone confirm which one Autoplicity is selling?
Bullshit :drive:... I ordered what I thought was the "BLACK" one and a fully tunable RED one showed up to my door... check out my pictures bro :)
Cobra4B
08-08-2012, 09:14 PM
Yeah I had the Edelbrock labeled one confused with the LS1/LS6 black controller. I guess it's only the Edelbrock one that isn't tunable.
Beeterolds
08-08-2012, 09:21 PM
Yeah I had the Edelbrock labeled one confused with the LS1/LS6 black controller. I guess it's only the Edelbrock one that isn't tunable.
Sure is... I wish Edelbrock would get on it and fix this complaint
streetknight2
08-09-2012, 12:01 PM
SK Speed....treated me great and fast shipping
onefast84
08-09-2012, 01:16 PM
As far as I know the black one was the earlier one and the red one is a newer version. Mine is black and fully tunable. I bought mine back in 07 I think.
Cobra4B
08-09-2012, 01:51 PM
Anyone know if the one Autoplicity is selling is red or black?
70lsgto
08-09-2012, 03:27 PM
if you want the edelbrock one im going back to fuel injection its less than a year old with the harness and the pills for a 24x reluctor motor for $200 thanks.
LS1MCSS
08-09-2012, 06:33 PM
Sure is... I wish Edelbrock would get on it and fix this complaintThat won't ever happen. MSD is building them for Edelbrock the exact way Edelbrock wants them built. They didn't want them to be tuneable.
LS1MCSS
08-09-2012, 06:44 PM
Anyone know if the one Autoplicity is selling is red or black?The black ones are the older versions and even if you find one you're better off not to get it. They have had updates done to them and the red ones are a better box. Some of the earlier versions had trouble firing the plugs unless the starter and battery were extremly strong. If the were even a little bit weak, the motor might start and might not. Not all of them were that way, but it was a common problem. A member(Tosto Racing) had a lot of trouble with his. He had to use two batteries untill he sent it back to MSD for an update.
Cobra4B
08-09-2012, 06:50 PM
Yep that's what I was getting at... Either Autoplocity is a great deal or it's older units at a closeout price.
MikeFSKSpeed
08-09-2012, 08:20 PM
Any of these being produced right now are red, and I have quite a few in stock. I'll try to beat on prices on these, pm me!
1988montecarloss
08-09-2012, 09:13 PM
Any of these being produced right now are red, and I have quite a few in stock. I'll try to beat on prices on these, pm me!
just checked your website and they were out of stock, when do you think you could send one out?
Beeterolds
08-09-2012, 10:11 PM
Yep that's what I was getting at... Either Autoplocity is a great deal or it's older units at a closeout price.
My Autoplicity Box is red and has 11/10/2011 stamped on the bottom... its new stuff
Cobra4B
08-09-2012, 10:45 PM
Thank you for the confirmation.
Hantzum
08-12-2012, 06:09 PM
Just so you guys know the 6010 box is awesome. Easy as shit to tune and dead on accurate with timing. I sprayed 400 on my setup last night and pulled 16 degrees of timing from 26 and the timing mark was dead on on the plug. Plus this box sparks way harder then a pcm or distributor. Cheap as hell and hell of innovation from msd. Save me a lot of money from having to buy a digital 7 spark amplifier distributor and front cover.
ZONES89RS
08-12-2012, 08:48 PM
Yet another advantage over the SBC, screw a distributer unless you have some unique requirement. These boxes do it all.
Builtz71
08-14-2012, 12:15 AM
Was wondering when you buy the 6010 set up does it come with a map sensor,or do you have to buy it separate?
The stunningman
08-14-2012, 07:12 PM
Was wondering when you buy the 6010 set up does it come with a map sensor,or do you have to buy it separate?
You have to buy it seperately.
Its the same one used on the vortec 96 up 4.3 and 5.7. Its also used on a lot of other engines, pretty generic.
Cobra4B
08-14-2012, 10:39 PM
I can't find it on Autoplicity anymore... anyone know what's up?
http://autoplicity.com/search.aspx?searchterms=msd+6010
Builtz71
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
You have to buy it seperately.
Its the same one used on the vortec 96 up 4.3 and 5.7. Its also used on a lot of other engines, pretty generic.
Do you think it would be the same one on my 5.3L truck intake?
MikeFSKSpeed
08-14-2012, 10:48 PM
Got another 5 in today. My website should be updated soon to reflect it back in stock but if anyone needs one, call me at the store!
ZONES89RS
08-15-2012, 06:26 AM
Thanks for looking out for my carbed guys mike!!!
MikeFSKSpeed
08-15-2012, 06:28 AM
Thanks for looking out for my carbed guys mike!!!
No problem, Im glad to help whenever I can! :burn: