Street Racing & Kill Stories - Ran into a Mach 1 and a GTO tonight

A couple of us were out looking for trouble earlier and I managed to dig up a little action.

BSing at a local hang out spot and a red Mach 1 pulls in, so I walk over to try and get a run. At first he seemed a bit hesitant, but I assured him I was just looking for a friendly race and there would be no bullshit or drama so he agreed.

His car was an automatic with exhaust and 4.10 gears. I believe he said it had a cold air intake, but I might be wrong on that. I told him he could pick the race: dig, roll, whatever and he chose a 40 roll. My friend jumped in my car and there were no passengers in the Mach 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA25xmRUmdo

The guy in the Mach 1 seemed like a nice guy and gave us the thumbs up after the race.

One of the regulars at the local hang out had followed us out (you can see him in the first race) and wanted in on the action, so I lined up with him.

His car is a 2006 GTO, M6, cold air, headers, and a tune. He had a passenger also and wanted a 30 mph roll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeGCt_2a5wg

We pulled back in after and chatted a bit, all agreeing that it was a good time :cheers:

I was on motor for these races and my car put down 357 rwhp and 371 rwtq as it sits.

nice runs, what you trap N/A?

Thanks, last time at the track I trapped 107.4 mph and the DA was 2700'.

Great runs. Can't wait to hear all the BS surrounding the Mach from others lol but you pulled him pretty well.

That GTO surprised me, and sounded damn good! Gotta love the spontaneous runs.

good kill and good death

Thanks for the comments, it was a good time all around!

Thanks, last time at the track I trapped 107.4 mph and the DA was 2700'.

nice .... so that mach1 wasnt even close to 105 lol

inb4automachcriesfoul

Go figure. Why, in gods name did an Auto mach 1 want a 40 roll instead of a dig???

Go figure. Why, in gods name did an Auto mach 1 want a 40 roll instead of a dig???

My guess, shitty tires.

That would be the only thing i could think of. Or he knew he was screwed anyways and didnt want to beat his car to much :)

LMAO......these vids = end of debate. Mach 1's are nice looking cars, but man do they have some hardcore nut huggers that come with them.

On another note, would be interesting to line my brother's GTO up against Jay's and compare.

so many cars i wanna race, its not fair lol

If I had to guess the Mach I owner didn't know any better.


Good kill!

Go figure. Why, in gods name did an Auto mach 1 want a 40 roll instead of a dig???

I honestly expected him to want a dig. Either way, he was a good sport and came out to give it a shot.

On another note, would be interesting to line my brother's GTO up against Jay's and compare.

Conveniently, I asked Jay last night if he would be interested in lining up with your brother and he was all for it. He did concede that your brother is a better driver.

If I had to guess the Mach I owner didn't know any better.


Good kill!

Thanks! You could be right about that, I didn't get the chance to talk to him after.

I honestly expected him to want a dig. Either way, he was a good sport and came out to give it a shot.



Conveniently, I asked Jay last night if he would be interested in lining up with your brother and he was all for it. He did concede that your brother is a better driver.



Thanks! You could be right about that, I didn't get the chance to talk to him after.

Jay would let me drive his car... now THAT would be something!
Good runs.
inb4automach claims it was a v6.

we all know hes just gonna argue that the mach didnt have headers and was an automatic..... Someone please torch a full bolt on stick mach!!. O wait... i already did that in a 113mph not quite full bolt on gto... and it was an auto.....shiiit

Those cars need a massive help from gears to do any damn thing. Then they fall on ther face up top. How appropriate is this race anyways :)

Nice races!

That acceleration contest with the Mach was Fugly ... Good kill!

In the Mach 1's defense, I think with a tire he would have made a dig run very interesting with those 4.10's. If I see him around again I'll try to set it up.

Jay would let me drive his car... now THAT would be something!
Good runs.

It would be interesting to see the two GTO's race, once with Jay driving and once with you driving.

Someone please torch a full bolt on stick mach!!.

I don't think I've ever seen a full bolt-on Mach 1 around here. There was another red one (5-speed) that had a few bolt-ons and ran high 12's. He was hanging out with the guy that had the supercharged S197 that I raced, but I never got a chance to line up with the Mach 1.

How appropriate is this race anyways :)

When the Mach 1 pulled in, I told punishmentcycle and his eyes lit up, lol. We weren't out to make anyone look foolish, and just wanted a good friendly race, but I couldn't pass up the chance to race one after that other thread :lol: punishmentcycle made sure the GTO went along for the ride :nod:

Nice races!

:cheers:

That acceleration contest with the Mach was Fugly ... Good kill!

I've never been in an automatic Mach 1, but I'm guessing that speed wasn't favorable to him. I bet a dig or low roll would have let him do much better.

Like you said screaminredz - had to be a bad speed for the mach. Surely a dig or different speed would have produced less embarrassing results

Couldn't ask for a better example. Could the Mach had dOne something different.. Of course, did he choose the wrong race for himself.. Yea deff but the out come would have been the same... I'm just happy I finally got jay (Gto) to use his car.

What do you consider a "full bolt-on" Mach?

Me? I would think all the basics, plus headers, gears, and sticky tires. Most of the ones I run into are just your basic cold air, x-pipe, catback cars. Some might have a tune or gears, but I haven't run into one with all of the above.

No freakin' way that happened.

What do you consider a "full bolt-on" Mach?

I think Full bolt-ons means pretty much the same on every car, all the mods outside of engines internals and no power adders of course.

inb4automachcriesfoul

^This :corn:

Inb4automachSaysyouLetoff4theGto race

Nice runs. That Mach got a whoopin. Maybe we should start a fund for everyone to contribute to so SRZ and I can buy a Mach and full bolt-ons for it, then race it against all the GTO's we can find and post vids.

few years back, i raced my buddies mach 1 with my gto. My gto was trapping 114-115mph at that time. I had an extra 500lbs of passengers in the car. My buddies mach had an extra 150lbs in it. His car was full exhaust (longtubes back), 4.88 gears, 28 inch slicks, skinnies, tubular front and rear suspension, ewp, ported upper and lower intake, air intake, ud pulley, pro shift trans, advanced cams, race battery, weight reduction, etc etc. We ran from 40-120... i edged him out by a car length. And the car also has nitrous. Hes gone 11.1 at 122 on a 100 shot. I ran him on motor. Thats pretty much as max effort as you get. Short of gutting the interior.

Me? I would think all the basics, plus headers, gears, and sticky tires. Most of the ones I run into are just your basic cold air, x-pipe, catback cars. Some might have a tune or gears, but I haven't run into one with all of the above.

That's my impression too, but wanted to make sure. Outside of exhaust and an intake there isn't much more that will increase hp, and I'd say most of the machs you run into probably are full bolt on. I would consider my car a full bolt on, wouldn't you? (- the n2o)

full bolt ons to me means full exhaust,intake,gears and little stuff like bigger maf,fuel pump,ported tb or intake mani etc.

Thanks, last time at the track I trapped 107.4 mph and the DA was 2700'.

Good death and good kill.
+100 street credit

Inb4automachSaysyouLetoff4theGto race

LMAO Both runs were NA in the G8, and the GTO was doing good. Its obv Automach is going to come in and complain.

we all know hes just gonna argue that the mach didnt have headers and was an automatic..... Someone please torch a full bolt on stick mach!!. O wait... i already did that in a 113mph not quite full bolt on gto... and it was an auto.....shiiit

He can't argue about it being automatic, because he has an auto that he's waiting for a converter for. Maybe he'll argue that it didn't have a converter in it, and hence wasn't full bolt on? Most likely, if a manual Mach gets torched into cinders, he'll claim the driver was granny shifting... not double clutching like he should.

That's my impression too, but wanted to make sure. Outside of exhaust and an intake there isn't much more that will increase hp, and I'd say most of the machs you run into probably are full bolt on. I would consider my car a full bolt on, wouldn't you? (- the n2o)

Do mach's get slower as the more bolt ons go on? lol you said you traped 107-108 right? Your car is full bolt on, but x pipe machs from what automach1 claims trap over 110 all day. My mind=decimated.

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That's my impression too, but wanted to make sure. Outside of exhaust and an intake there isn't much more that will increase hp, and I'd say most of the machs you run into probably are full bolt on. I would consider my car a full bolt on, wouldn't you? (- the n2o)

I would consider your car to be full bolt-ons. I'm sure someone will argue that there's some throttle body spacer you should get or that you race with too much gas in the tank and therefore it's not a full bolt-on car, but in my opinion it is.

I do disagree that most of the Mach 1's people will run into are full bolt-on cars. I don't think I've ever seen one with headers in person and alot don't seem to have gears. There are definitely a bunch out there that are, but I think you're more likely to run into a cold air/catback/x-pipe car.

Maybe he'll argue that it didn't have a converter in it, and hence wasn't full bolt on?

Just to be clear, the car I raced wasn't anything close to full bolt-on and I'm not trying to pass it off as such. It was just a catback/gear car with maybe a cold air.

Thanks for the street credit :cheers:

Who cares If your not over 120 mph gtfo ... Lol Jk :lol:

Do mach's get slower as the more bolt ons go on? lol you said you traped 107-108 right? Your car is full bolt on, but x pipe machs from what automach1 claims trap over 110 all day. My mind=decimated.

Well I wouldn't go off what automach says, I think his claims are grandiose lol. I might have mislead a little, when I ran 13.1 at 107 it had gears exhaust stock weight and a bad tune. Also my exhaust is anything but efficient (it does a u-turn in the muffler for side exhaust) When I added the 85mm maf and intake I had to add 20% fuel at wot, and I don't know if the intake and maf was enough to gain 3 to 5 mph. I know my car won't see 11's without nitrous. I don't feel the 4.6 responds to bolt ons as well as the LSX but with that said we are talking about a motor almost 2ltrs smaller. I think it will take a bolt on Mach to hang with a stock GTO and a race car to hang with a bolt on GTO.

Broken record...

I used to beat bolt on machs by 10+ lengths in my GTO. Where are the mild bolt on Terminators at?

Well I wouldn't go off what automach says, I think his claims are grandiose lol. I might have mislead a little, when I ran 13.1 at 107 it had gears exhaust stock weight and a bad tune. Also my exhaust is anything but efficient (it does a u-turn in the muffler for side exhaust) When I added the 85mm maf and intake I had to add 20% fuel at wot, and I don't know if the intake and maf was enough to gain 3 to 5 mph. I know my car won't see 11's without nitrous. I don't feel the 4.6 responds to bolt ons as well as the LSX but with that said we are talking about a motor almost 2ltrs smaller. I think it will take a bolt on Mach to hang with a stock GTO and a race car to hang with a bolt on GTO.

Thank you, thats probobly the most truthfull, honest and unbiased thing said all damn day.

I agree the ls2 Gto can run well to bad the ls1 Gto don't run as good as that. :)

Funny you say that, as the fasterst GTO was held by an LS1 for a very long time, and is still only 2/10`s off that mark. Say what you will, love running into people like you on the street :) That little 5.7 emblem on the back dont mean shit when you start modding.

Good runs. In before automach. Lol