Street Racing & Kill Stories - 700whp m3 vs 700whp 5.0(video added)

Ran a Horse Power Freak M3 tonight.

M3: 110 OCTANE,meth injection straight Meth, built engine, built M6, turbo

Me: 93 octane, stock block 12lbs boost. On invo's, stalled auto.

Most runs was from 40-45. All way up to about 145-150 I had about 2-3 cars on him. At that speed he would come around me pretty good. One roll we went from 60 and I held him off till about 160 where he would come around me strong again. His car pulls crazy hard above 150. He mentioned I only car to give him a run that he didn't pass by 100 from any speed. All good fun.

Buddy is trying get videos up tonight. Will post soon he get done.

first run was a 55ish bbad spot for me i let out when he started walking pretty hard
second run was a 60 -160 i let out you can hear me say turn
3rd run was from a 40-145ish where he usually came around me.
and last run i hit limiter hard on 1-2 shift but was from a 40, he passed around 120-125 that run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_ux9vcUs4&feature=plcp

Nice!

I am in for vids. Wonder why he built the trans. Easily handles 700. Definitely sounds right though. good kill.

He has plans of changing Turbo. Going bigger shooting for 900whp+.

He has plans of changing Turbo. Going bigger shooting for 900whp+.

Nice. That would make him a 150 mph car. Right now he is close to 140's.

I think he said his best trap is 138/139.

I think he said his best trap is 138/139.

Damn im good.

He has plans of changing Turbo. Going bigger shooting for 900whp+.

he better leave it alone and be happy it's living @ 700. It won't live long @ 900. Hell it's not gonna live long @ 700 either.

Sounds like a badass line up.

In for vids........

I'll bet his meth was the main difference even though you both dyno 700 whp. Meth will keep IATs lower and keep timing from being pulled. In boosted applications you can feel the power loss as you make a few pulls if you don't have meth...with meth, your power doesn't change much.

Sounds like some good runs!

I'll bet his meth was the main difference even though you both dyno 700 whp. Meth will keep IATs lower and keep timing from being pulled. In boosted applications you can feel the power loss as you make a few pulls if you don't have meth...with meth, your power doesn't change much.

By the last run could tell my car was heat soaked. My SC was hot as hell. But was still fun and good runs.


he better leave it alone and be happy it's living @ 700. It won't live long @ 900. Hell it's not gonna live long @ 700 either.

His built block is suppose to be good for over 1000whp. He has over 30,000 miles on current setup. Daily driving and Racing.

So he runs 110 octane everywhere he goes.....probably not. He probably runs around on some low boost and then claims it holds up to 700 hp for 30k.

So he runs 110 octane everywhere he goes.....probably not. He probably runs around on some low boost and then claims it holds up to 700 hp for 30k.

When he runs 93 he turns boost down but still runs straight Meth. It makes around 580whp on 93.

When he runs 93 he turns boost down but still runs straight Meth. It makes around 580whp on 93.

Should make more power once he upgrades the turbo. on 91+Meth they make 700's.

So he runs 110 octane everywhere he goes.....probably not. He probably runs around on some low boost and then claims it holds up to 700 hp for 30k.

Depending on his turbo setup it can make 700's on pump. Pump plus alcohol it can make 890's. HPF's kits have proven reliable throughout the years through all sorts of tests. Tests that have proven reliable past 50-60k miles. The texas mile, the mojave mile, one lap of america. Where did you hear that it's unreliable? That link shows dyno charts of the different stages for the HPF kits. This guys current kit is more then likely a stage 2.5 which is a stage 2 kit plus engine build and for 900 rwhp it will be the Stage 3. Factory internals have proven reliable up to 700 ish whp.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdetails/HPF/Turbos/Turbo_Kits/E46_M3/11037

he better leave it alone and be happy it's living @ 700. It won't live long @ 900. Hell it's not gonna live long @ 700 either.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Quit listening to your friend's friend's who know a guy that heard of a guy who blew up his M3. It is very rare for the E46 M3's to blow up with the HPF kits.

Damn.. Sounds like fun. In for vids!!!

Buddy is working on video now. He hasn't been home all day. And wife wasn't hearing him do it last night when he got home

I'll bet his meth was the main difference even though you both dyno 700 whp. Meth will keep IATs lower and keep timing from being pulled. In boosted applications you can feel the power loss as you make a few pulls if you don't have meth...with meth, your power doesn't change much.

He would probably benefit more from running distilled water instead of meth if he runs 110oct. Meth is good at raising the octane, especially if you're on 93oct, but water has better cooling properties and does a better job at lowering IAT's.

So he runs 110 octane everywhere he goes.....probably not. He probably runs around on some low boost and then claims it holds up to 700 hp for 30k.

Why not? I have 110 at the pump at many gas stations near me. I always run 110 with a mix of lower octane gas

Sounds like some good runs!

Why not? I have 110 at the pump at many gas stations near me. I always run 110 with a mix of lower octane gas

Sounds like some good runs!

I wish I had 110 at the pump here.

I have to agree when i was on E46Fanatics forums back when i had my M3 i heard alot about HPF bmw's. They are very reliable and have almost no issues at all. Most people would be shocked as to how much an E46 motor can take as far as boost and be reliable. They have excellent gearing so im not suprised at higher speeds they just pull away. Cant wait for the vidz either, good runs Ohioborn80.

Can't wait to see the vids. Sounds like some good runs

fucking 7xx hp cars.

Good way to represent ohio. In for vids.

I'm waiting on my buddy. He is being slow..family and work and shit. Lol

Should have video in about an hour...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_ux9vcUs4&feature=plcp

first run was bad spot for me and i let out, second run was a good on. we both let out around 160 cause a turn, 3 run was pretty clean, and 4th i hit limiter hard on 1-2 shift but was still decent run. Both cars are nasty. M3 is a highway car mine is a track car.
but as said his car would usually come around after 140 on the 40 rolls and 160 on the 60 rolls.

he better leave it alone and be happy it's living @ 700. It won't live long @ 900. Hell it's not gonna live long @ 700 either.

So he runs 110 octane everywhere he goes.....probably not. He probably runs around on some low boost and then claims it holds up to 700 hp for 30k.

Just can't say anything nice unless it's a crate ls6 can you? The beauty of a turbo car is that you don't have to run on full boost all the time. With a press of a button that all changes. Honestly those e46 m3 engines are stout and comparing it to how a ls1/ls6 can hold up to boost with a forged bottom end I'd give the slight edge to the straight 6.

Badass runs Ohio. Sounds like you guys had a good time.

Badass runs Ohio. Sounds like you guys had a good time.

We did. When buddy gets lambo back from UGR we will have a rematch and throw M3 in mix as well.

Nice video, quick question......do you think the Boss intake manifold is hurting you any. I know of at least 3 people who removed the boss intake on n/a setups because it hurt them more then anything. Especially with a blower forcing air in id almost imagine stock would be better.

Nice video, quick question......do you think the Boss intake manifold is hurting you any. I know of at least 3 people who removed the boss intake on n/a setups because it hurt them more then anything. Especially with a blower forcing air in id almost imagine stock would be better.

With n/a it works. Biggest issue is people don't Rev engine high enough. That and don't have gears to support. If auto need a stall for it.

Boosted has shown anywhere from 40-60whp gains with boss. Depends on rest set up. With autos again with out stall it hurts you.

Nice vid. Fast ass rides.

Both cars are running strong but that BMW is :barf::barf::barf:

Ohio. I love you and shit and you got an impressive car but are you sure you're 7xx rwhp? That shit just ate you alive like holy fuck. Get some slicks and teach that fucker how to race or something..... That m3 should NOT pass you that hard man.

Good kill death?

Gooooooooodddddd ddddaaammmm he raped you ... Turbo lack eh? Lol dam that guy needs to learn how to brake boost and shift a little quicker ... He will litterary let off the gas, shift and then get back on it again .... Nice way to rep the 5ohs

DAMN, that M3 is fast. Looks like he has a lot more power than you. Good runs

I think you beat the driver until he came around you. Not to take anything away from you, but he came around HARD. Wasn't brake boosting and I could tell a story in-between his shifts lol. Need a rematch with someone who can drive that M3.

Both bad ass cars though, thanks for posting.

He was brake boosting to only about 10-12lbs. It also don't go full boost till 3rd gear. The car ran a 112.1@134 last Friday at the track. His 1/8. Mile was super slow.. but it picked up like 36 on back half. He don't launch it cause afraid to break rear end. His best trap is 138. We wonder if it has more power then he says also. He ran a buddies cobra that is close to 700whp and 650wtq and same thing happen. He would jump out and up above 150ish the m3 would walk by him.


Also my best trap is 133 to his 138. He usually only runs high rolls also 70-90mph. He.mentioned his car weighed about 3100lbs and with both people about 3600lbs. Mine is right around 4100 with both people. I had my street tires on and back seats in even. He.said running at a track isn't fair since I have a stalled auto..lol

He was brake boosting to only about 10-12lbs. It also don't go full boost till 3rd gear. The car ran a 112.1@134 last Friday at the track. His 1/8. Mile was super slow.. but it picked up like 36 on back half. He don't launch it cause afraid to break rear end. His best trap is 138. We wonder if it has more power then he says also. He ran a buddies cobra that is close to 700whp and 650wtq and same thing happen. He would jump out and up above 150ish the m3 would walk by him.

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Is this due to traction? It REALLY got moving towards the end of the races. Good runs, I've seen those HPF put a lot of cars to shame.

Is this due to traction? It REALLY got moving towards the end of the races. Good runs, I've seen those HPF put a lot of cars to shame.

He is scarred to break rear end. He was telling us that they like to rip mounts threw body. He said he should have a brace to fix that soon. That he had it custome made.

He was brake boosting to only about 10-12lbs. It also don't go full boost till 3rd gear. The car ran a 112.1@134 last Friday at the track. His 1/8. Mile was super slow.. but it picked up like 36 on back half. He don't launch it cause afraid to break rear end. His best trap is 138. We wonder if it has more power then he says also. He ran a buddies cobra that is close to 700whp and 650wtq and same thing happen. He would jump out and up above 150ish the m3 would walk by him.


Also my best trap is 133 to his 138. He usually only runs high rolls also 70-90mph. He.mentioned his car weighed about 3100lbs and with both people about 3600lbs. Mine is right around 4100 with both people. I had my street tires on and back seats in even. He.said running at a track isn't fair since I have a stalled auto..lol

With the E46 M3's, this is going to happen. We do not make any low end whatsoever. With added boost, it's all about hp. Looking at the HPF dyno graphs the last little bit of hp is made at peak rpm as it should be. His pull is consistent and shows. The gearing also allows us to stay well in boost in 4th and 5th gear. For instance depending on his wheel size he won't have to shift out of 4th until 135-140 mph and 5th gear until 165-170 mph which would explain his pull at 120-140 mph. Either he is in 4th passing you or just shifting to 5th and the car is not spinning and holding boost. Also to comment on his shifting. Was he auto or manual? IF auto that would explain the slower shifts. The auto's (Sequential Manual Gearbox or SMG is a dual clutch transmission in the M3, same exact components as the manual just with added hydraulics to shift gears) with all that power takes a little more time to get through the gears.

Also his mod list suggests he is making anywhere from 700-750 rwhp. Depends on the dyno, day, conditions etc. We all know the variances.

He is scarred to break rear end. He was telling us that they like to rip mounts threw body. He said he should have a brace to fix that soon. That he had it custome made.

Yes, the E46 M3's have some issues with the subframe bushings and the rear subframe tear. There are many proven kits so I do not know why he is going custom. I know for sure I was nervous about my rear subframe when I was at the track cutting 1.9 60's looking for 1.8's. Going up that extra 1k rpm on the launch was not worth it to me so I kept cutting my 1.9's fairly easily. But yes E46 M3's are plagued by the rear subframe bushings.

Tell your buddy who made the video to not worry so much about the shakyness fixing thing in whatever program hes using. Its kind of annoying lol.

Anyway good runs. You def beat the driver. That car was freight training on the top end.

From watching the video, looks to me like the guy raped you when he had traction (first race) he didnt "pass at 160" man come on.. Lol... he blew by you way before that looked like around 80-90 to me.... Not sure what happened on the other races... Missed gears? No traction?

Thanks for the video and keep them comming.... When i was stationed in killeen, i saw that bmw around.... It also used to put the smack down on 600rwhp twinscrew cobras....

Just can't say anything nice unless it's a crate ls6 can you? The beauty of a turbo car is that you don't have to run on full boost all the time. With a press of a button that all changes. Honestly those e46 m3 engines are stout and comparing it to how a ls1/ls6 can hold up to boost with a forged bottom end I'd give the slight edge to the straight 6.

I worked on BMW PTG M3's for years. I was never really impressed. Built to 450-460 n/a crank hp(385ish whp) was about it for them and get any longevity out them for racing. The rear will rip right out of the chassis unless reinforced. Even with the extensive rr cage the floor pans would belly out. I'm sure you how I feel about 70-90 rolls, and you can see the car don't work well down low. You also know how I feel about all this tune swapping race gas hauling crap. You end up with a pain in the ass street car and a no count race car. The car does roll out once it is in the sweet spot......but any fully built car should on race gas.

Is this due to traction? It REALLY got moving towards the end of the races. Good runs, I've seen those HPF put a lot of cars to shame.

He didn't have traction issues. We was suprised I didn't. He was on MT DR's I was on 285 nitto invo's

From watching the video, looks to me like the guy raped you when he had traction (first race) he didnt "pass at 160" man come on.. Lol... he blew by you way before that looked like around 80-90 to me.... Not sure what happened on the other races... Missed gears? No traction?

Thanks for the video and keep them comming.... When i was stationed in killeen, i saw that bmw around.... It also used to put the smack down on 600rwhp twinscrew cobras....

He never missed a gear or spun. In first race we started around 50mph. I let out around 80 or so. As it was useless. Its a bad spot for me. Very low in 2nd gear. I'm at 2700 or so rpms. No real boost. Rest runs I'm at 6000+ rpms. Which put me nailing at rough 10lbs boost. Big difference.

I worked on BMW PTG M3's for years. I was never really impressed. Built to 450-460 n/a crank hp(385ish whp) was about it for them and get any longevity out them for racing. The rear will rip right out of the chassis unless reinforced. Even with the extensive rr cage the floor pans would belly out. I'm sure you how I feel about 70-90 rolls, and you can see the car don't work well down low. You also know how I feel about all this tune swapping race gas hauling crap. You end up with a pain in the ass street car and a no count race car. The car does roll out once it is in the sweet spot......but any fully built car should on race gas.

Lol cause getting that much power out of an na 6 cyl isn't impressive. Vac motorsports is able to get 500 to the crank or 420 rwhp out of their stroker kits. To me that is an insane amount of power.

With the E46 M3's, this is going to happen. We do not make any low end whatsoever. With added boost, it's all about hp. Looking at the HPF dyno graphs the last little bit of hp is made at peak rpm as it should be. His pull is consistent and shows. The gearing also allows us to stay well in boost in 4th and 5th gear. For instance depending on his wheel size he won't have to shift out of 4th until 135-140 mph and 5th gear until 165-170 mph which would explain his pull at 120-140 mph. Either he is in 4th passing you or just shifting to 5th and the car is not spinning and holding boost. Also to comment on his shifting. Was he auto or manual? IF auto that would explain the slower shifts. The auto's (Sequential Manual Gearbox or SMG is a dual clutch transmission in the M3, same exact components as the manual just with added hydraulics to shift gears) with all that power takes a little more time to get through the gears.

Also his mod list suggests he is making anywhere from 700-750 rwhp. Depends on the dyno, day, conditions etc.


I would think his is making closer to 750whp. As said down low it seems sluggish but up top its a monster. Like faster you go faster it gets.

I'm going into 5th about 145 and my 5th is only .82:1 so not best for roll racing. Even then it seemed like I was down on power above 150ish. Wondering if tune gets soft then. Since didn't plan on really roll racing it. Maybe less timing.

He didn't have traction issues. We was suprised I didn't. He was on MT DR's I was on 285 nitto invo's



He never missed a gear or spun. In first race we started around 50mph. I let out around 80 or so. As it was useless. Its a bad spot for me. Very low in 2nd gear. I'm at 2700 or so rpms. No real boost. Rest runs I'm at 6000+ rpms. Which put me nailing at rough 10lbs boost. Big difference.

I just watched the video again from my lap top instead of my phone at the gym....

Here is what I noticed....

You are good street racer and know your shit, it doesnt make sense to me why you would start at "2700rpms" that would be stupid. On that 1st race I hear your car rev up thru the rpms and it seemed like it was in a good power range not all the way at the bottom, I would guess 4K rpmps or so....

Another thing I noticed is that on the 2nd and 3rd races it seemed the BMW was hitting the limiter and falling back, while you capitalized on his mistake...

Last race seemed to me like he started blowing by at around 120....

It is possible that you guys had very different gearing and therefor some speeds wouldbe much better for you and crappy for him and vice-versa

Please dont feel like Im dogging your runs, I actually think you put up a helluva fight...

Ohio. I love you and shit and you got an impressive car but are you sure you're 7xx rwhp? That shit just ate you alive like holy fuck. Get some slicks and teach that fucker how to race or something..... That m3 should NOT pass you that hard man.

Good kill death?
*tap* *tap* *tap* how many drinks have you had tonight? I agree, he pulled really hard once he caught a gear.

He was brake boosting to only about 10-12lbs. It also don't go full boost till 3rd gear. The car ran a 112.1@134 last Friday at the track. His 1/8. Mile was super slow.. but it picked up like 36 on back half. He don't launch it cause afraid to break rear end. His best trap is 138. We wonder if it has more power then he says also. He ran a buddies cobra that is close to 700whp and 650wtq and same thing happen. He would jump out and up above 150ish the m3 would walk by him.


Also my best trap is 133 to his 138. He usually only runs high rolls also 70-90mph. He.mentioned his car weighed about 3100lbs and with both people about 3600lbs. Mine is right around 4100 with both people. I had my street tires on and back seats in even. He.said running at a track isn't fair since I have a stalled auto..loldid he pull over, take a piss, hoped back in the car and finish his pass? :lol:

I've never seen a hpf m3 walk another similar whp car so bad. I wonder if he doesn't have quite a bit more than he said or if your car wasn't running at it's full capacity. Even with weight differences that thing seemed to have way more power.

I just watched the video again from my lap top instead of my phone at the gym....

Here is what I noticed....

You are good street racer and know your shit, it doesnt make sense to me why you would start at "2700rpms" that would be stupid. On that 1st race I hear your car rev up thru the rpms and it seemed like it was in a good power range not all the way at the bottom, I would guess 4K rpmps or so....

Another thing I noticed is that on the 2nd and 3rd races it seemed the BMW was hitting the limiter and falling back, while you capitalized on his mistake
Last race seemed to me like he started blowing by at around 120....

It is possible that you guys had very different gearing and therefor some speeds wouldbe much better for you and crappy for him and vice-versa

Please dont feel like Im dogging your runs, I actually think you put up a helluva fight...
We do have very different gearing. What was best for.him sucked for me and like wise.for him. It happens.

I was one hitting limiter in all runs. Last run I hit it harder but my tq still gave me jump. But yep right around 120 he came by me. Other two runs I tapped but not nearly as bad. I was able to hold him off as said. But when we stayed in it he would catch up and pull hard. Could be a few things, weight, he makes more power, gearing, and I don't think I have a lot of timing in my 5th gear. As said never really planned on roll racing the auto. His and my car is.set up totally different. He built his just for street racing. Where mine is geared toward the track. But hey it happens. Was fun for both us. We stopped talked for like and hour after. He was impressed.how hard I would Yank down low. I was impressed how hard he yanked up top. He found out that I ran 10's and he told me his car tops out just over 200. I really don't think my car will hit 200 with out some big tune changes. I know for sure my 6th gear is tuned very very soft.

*tap* *tap* *tap* how many drinks have you had tonight? I agree, he pulled really hard once he caught a gear.

did he pull over, take a piss, hoped back in the car and finish his pass? :lol:

I've never seen a hpf m3 walk another similar whp car so bad. I wonder if he doesn't have quite a bit more than he said or if your car wasn't running at it's full capacity. Even with weight differences that thing seemed to have way more power.

Only other thing is I may have been down some power. 30 min ride to get there with about 5 min cool down. A little heat soak. So maybe a loss of 30-40whp.


As said before this is second similar whp car he comes around hard up top

For shits and giggles you should try and find a mustang dyno that is conservative but average to see what differences it may be from your initial tune. Was that new number with the converter locked or unlocked?

For shits and giggles you should try and find a mustang dyno that is conservative but average to see what differences it may be from your initial tune. Was that new number with the converter locked or unlocked?

It was locked. We have a mustang dyno local but they want 100 per pull.

That M3 needs a driver mod. I had an E46 M3 with similar mods to that give me some trouble from a roll in my Z06 and boy was In for a suprise. I lost traction on the first run and he put a few cars on me and when I actually had traction he got me up top.

HPF M3's are very Supra-ish. They are dogs down low but once they hit boost they are insane.

We do have very different gearing. What was best for.him sucked for me and like wise.for him. It happens.

I was one hitting limiter in all runs. Last run I hit it harder but my tq still gave me jump. But yep right around 120 he came by me. Other two runs I tapped but not nearly as bad. I was able to hold him off as said. But when we stayed in it he would catch up and pull hard. Could be a few things, weight, he makes more power, gearing, and I don't think I have a lot of timing in my 5th gear. As said never really planned on roll racing the auto. His and my car is.set up totally different. He built his just for street racing. Where mine is geared toward the track. But hey it happens. Was fun for both us. We stopped talked for like and hour after. He was impressed.how hard I would Yank down low. I was impressed how hard he yanked up top. He found out that I ran 10's and he told me his car tops out just over 200. I really don't think my car will hit 200 with out some big tune changes. I know for sure my 6th gear is tuned very very soft.

Sounds good man!

One question, the reason i thought it was him hitting the limiter is because i know your ride is an AUTO, so how in the world are hitting the limiter in your AUTO? Lol

I worked on BMW PTG M3's for years. I was never really impressed. Built to 450-460 n/a crank hp(385ish whp) was about it for them and get any longevity out them for racing. The rear will rip right out of the chassis unless reinforced. Even with the extensive rr cage the floor pans would belly out. I'm sure you how I feel about 70-90 rolls, and you can see the car don't work well down low. You also know how I feel about all this tune swapping race gas hauling crap. You end up with a pain in the ass street car and a no count race car. The car does roll out once it is in the sweet spot......but any fully built car should on race gas.

You know, because 10bolts are bullet proof and big cams are very forgiving on the valvetrain in the fbody world. Hows the stock transmission holding up on your maro?:burn: I do hate high mph roll races though so that I agree with you on.

How about e85? Turbo cars seem to run really good on that pump gas and it's cheaper than premium 93 octane:gruffy:

Sounds good man!

One question, the reason i thought it was him hitting the limiter is because i know your ride is an AUTO, so how in the world are hitting the limiter in your AUTO? Lol

It's in the tune and the shift points probably need adjusting or he was manual shifting the car.

You know, because 10bolts are bullet proof and big cams are very forgiving on the valvetrain in the fbody world. Hows the stock transmission holding up on your maro?:burn: I do hate high mph roll races though so that I agree with you on.

How about e85? Turbo cars seem to run really good on that pump gas and it's cheaper than premium 93 octane:gruffy:

Where do you come up with some of this nonsense?? E85 is a mod on cars that don't come with e85 capability.....if it's even available. This m3 is on race gas.

Maybe you should call Hotrod mag and ask if you can run e85 at their pumpgas nationals.

I have a question for you guys,

Do you guys consider octane boosters a mod?

Sounds good man!

One question, the reason i thought it was him hitting the limiter is because i know your ride is an AUTO, so how in the world are hitting the limiter in your AUTO? Lol

As above I was manually shifting. Waiting for it to down shift and go would be asking to be killed right off the back. at the track i let it shift its self. And no issues.

Damn. He came running around you like it was no problem. :lol: His shifts are slowwwwww.


Oh, and that shaking screen nonsense was fucking annoying.

OHIO, for once I have to say your car Rolls, However I have NEVER seen such a fast BMW, WOW. I am impressed with BMW for the first time EVER. Good runs but you will def need something else for that car... Speechless.

Where do you come up with some of this nonsense?? E85 is a mod on cars that don't come with e85 capability.....if it's even available. This m3 is on race gas.

Maybe you should call Hotrod mag and ask if you can run e85 at their pumpgas nationals.

Thats the funny thing, this is SRK, not the National Events->Pump gas drags section of tech so what does that matter? Oh I know why it matters, because that is how you have your car setup. Anything goes here in SRK and cars can run on the souls of unborn puppies for all I or anyone else should care. Yeah, it should be noted, but a car's performance can't be dismissed because of it either.


I just love bustin' your balls because you get so pissed and nitpick whenever there are kills with faster cars than yours that run alternate fuels or are just down right very badass. BTW, I'm running e85 in my bimmer and the only thing needed was tuning the fuel tables, adjusting timing and boost to take advantage of the better fuel aka 'just a tune'. As for the TA, the only thing I changed for going from 93 octane fuel system to e85 was fuel injectors and tune. As for my nonsense regarding reliability of fbodies I have a simple question for you. Are you driving on the stock motor, trans, and rear end that came in your fbody? If not, then it doesn't give you a whole lot of room to talk down about other platforms.

Thats the funny thing, this is SRK, not the National Events->Pump gas drags section of tech so what does that matter? Oh I know why it matters, because that is how you have your car setup. Anything goes here in SRK and cars can run on the souls of unborn puppies for all I or anyone else should care. Yeah, it should be noted, but a car's performance can't be dismissed because of it either.


I just love bustin' your balls because you get so pissed and nitpick whenever there are kills with faster cars than yours that run alternate fuels or are just down right very badass. BTW, I'm running e85 in my bimmer and the only thing needed was tuning the fuel tables, adjusting timing and boost to take advantage of the better fuel aka 'just a tune'. As for the TA, the only thing I changed for going from 93 octane fuel system to e85 was fuel injectors and tune. As for my nonsense regarding reliability of fbodies I have a simple question for you. Are you driving on the stock motor, trans, and rear end that came in your fbody? If not, then it doesn't give you a whole lot of room to talk down about other platforms.

:offtopic: I have a flex fuel car, i am about to run the first tank of E-85 fuel ever, I heard there can be a 30% loss in MPG, I know this DO NOT MATTER when your running it for Power but does anyone have Opinions or facts on this?

Sorry OP I just had to ask, Back to the topic, Op are you planning on more mods or are you done?

Thats the funny thing, this is SRK, not the National Events->Pump gas drags section of tech so what does that matter? Oh I know why it matters, because that is how you have your car setup. Anything goes here in SRK and cars can run on the souls of unborn puppies for all I or anyone else should care. Yeah, it should be noted, but a car's performance can't be dismissed because of it either.


I just love bustin' your balls because you get so pissed and nitpick whenever there are kills with faster cars than yours that run alternate fuels or are just down right very badass. BTW, I'm running e85 in my bimmer and the only thing needed was tuning the fuel tables, adjusting timing and boost to take advantage of the better fuel aka 'just a tune'. As for the TA, the only thing I changed for going from 93 octane fuel system to e85 was fuel injectors and tune. As for my nonsense regarding reliability of fbodies I have a simple question for you. Are you driving on the stock motor, trans, and rear end that came in your fbody? If not, then it doesn't give you a whole lot of room to talk down about other platforms.

I don't get pissed at all. I know the difference in this shit.

You sure you don't have to upgrade the fuel pump in that TA???? There I go again knowing the difference.

Actually I am riding on the stock rear and trans that came in my car. Although neither are how it was delivered. The motor is a stock motor, but I'm sure you know this. ;) My car functions as a totally normal car with no need for special tunes or fuel. That's what I expect out of a good street car.

Now for my mustang, I my put it on e85 to help it live.

I don't get pissed at all. I know the difference in this shit.

You sure you don't have to upgrade the fuel pump in that TA???? There I go again knowing the difference.

Actually I am riding on the stock rear and trans that came in my car. Although neither are how it was delivered. The motor is a stock motor, but I'm sure you know this. ;) My car functions as a totally normal car with no need for special tunes or fuel. That's what I expect out of a good street car.

Now for my mustang, I my put it on e85 to help it live.
I have duel in tank pumps, -8 feed, fuel reg, rails and all that when I built the car up for pump gas. Stock stuff wouldn't have cut it. Just had to get beefier injectors to convert to e85 is all. No physical mods on the bimmers except for a tune.

:offtopic: I have a flex fuel car, i am about to run the first tank of E-85 fuel ever, I heard there can be a 30% loss in MPG, I know this DO NOT MATTER when your running it for Power but does anyone have Opinions or facts on this?

Sorry OP I just had to ask, Back to the topic, Op are you planning on more mods or are you done?

The money you save at the pump will be a wash due to the poorer fuel economy of e85. Save 30% but burn through it 30% faster.

That's a damn good looking m3

I don't get pissed at all. I know the difference in this shit.

You sure you don't have to upgrade the fuel pump in that TA???? There I go again knowing the difference.

Actually I am riding on the stock rear and trans that came in my car. Although neither are how it was delivered. The motor is a stock motor, but I'm sure you know this. ;) My car functions as a totally normal car with no need for special tunes or fuel. That's what I expect out of a good street car.

Now for my mustang, I my put it on e85 to help it live.

You have built faceplanned tranny not close to what came in it and an engine swap. Love how you always tray to down grade your shit.

The m3 makes almakes almost 600whp on 93. I say he did something right. He also goes out and races bikes for money on a regular. Why wouldn't he want to run it at full potential

Some people that know this m3 said it makes 800whp on race gas and straight Meth. Hmmm

Some people that know this m3 said it makes 800whp on race gas and straight Meth. Hmmm

I guess he can't be lying if he says "it made 700whp" previously. My car made 330whp at one time. lol. If I had an HPF m3 that only made really peaky whp I'd probably downplay it too. I've never seen an HPF car run what it's whp suggests as it's only made at the very tippy top of the rpm range.

You have built faceplanned tranny not close to what came in it and an engine swap. Love how you always tray to down grade your shit.

It's because he's slow. :D

it's because he's slow. :d

lol....

I guess he can't be lying if he says "it made 700whp" previously. My car made 330whp at one time. lol. If I had an HPF m3 that only made really peaky whp I'd probably downplay it too. I've never seen an HPF car run what it's whp suggests as it's only made at the very tippy top of the rpm range.

I seen a dyno for his car one time on hpf website. It was 702 on race gas. But didn't mention Meth.

It's because he's slow. :D



:jest:

It's because he's slow. :D

:hail::jest:

I seen a dyno for his car one time on hpf website. It was 702 on race gas. But didn't mention Meth.

Yep, maybe he's running it as a precaution but not for power. :dunno:

Nice video. That M3 is beautiful.

Yep, maybe he's running it as a precaution but not for power. :dunno:

I would kind of doubt that simply because of the difference the meth makes on the HPF kits. There's a good 60 rwhp to be made on meth alone. If it were me, I would not just run the meth for precaution, especially if the engine was built by HPF. And if he's running bikes for money, kind of makes more sense to go for more power.

thats a sexy m3 lol
badass race

I would kind of doubt that simply because of the difference the meth makes on the HPF kits. There's a good 60 rwhp to be made on meth alone. If it were me, I would not just run the meth for precaution, especially if the engine was built by HPF. And if he's running bikes for money, kind of makes more sense to go for more power.

Well the reason why I bring it up is that if the car was tuned at HPF in Oragon in cooler weather maybe he's running it in Texas for more of a precautionary thing since it's significantly hotter there during the summer. Meth has great cooling effects and can raise the octane in the cylinder to yield a little more power, but where it comes into it's own is when you up the boost and timing to take advantage of it. That is where you begin to make significantly more power. We won't know unless the guy says whats up or Ohio finds out more details.

By the last run could tell my car was heat soaked. My SC was hot as hell. But was still fun and good runs.

Are you still working on that 5.0? :confused:
Or are you just settling with these lame excuses? :bs:

Here is the "late night top 5":

1. I love how you contort the fact you got crushed/beat/walked etc.. into "still fun and good runs" If anyone else on LS1 Tech ran that bullsh#t you would be first to have something negative to say, blah, blah, blah...

2. That BMW is fast, much faster than your car. With a driver mod ie. someone driving who does not care about breaking something, you would need 50 lengths to even be close.

3. I am really disappointed with your 5.0. After all that work and RWHP it only ran mid ten's?

4. You have balls posting such a clear loss. Really big, hairy ones. Gross.

5. How's that slush box working out for you. Maybe you should try a Turbo 400 or C6 with a gear vendors OD for all that "Texas Mile" style racing you do. But then your 5.0 will be just a bit further from "stock".

:usa:

I don't know...a blower, some suspension work, and a few bolt-ons running mid 10s (in hot conditions) isn't too bad to me...

Are you still working on that 5.0? :confused:
Or are you just settling with these lame excuses? :bs:

Here is the "late night top 5":

1. I love how you contort the fact you got crushed/beat/walked etc.. into "still fun and good runs" If anyone else on LS1 Tech ran that bullsh#t you would be first to have something negative to say, blah, blah, blah...

2. That BMW is fast, much faster than your car. With a driver mod ie. someone driving who does not care about breaking something, you would need 50 lengths to even be close.

3. I am really disappointed with your 5.0. After all that work and RWHP it only ran mid ten's?

4. You have balls posting such a clear loss. Really big, hairy ones. Gross.

5. How's that slush box working out for you. Maybe you should try a Turbo 400 or C6 with a gear vendors OD for all that "Texas Mile" style racing you do. But then your 5.0 will be just a bit further from "stock".

:usa:

Damn why the hate. He admitted he lost and posted the race plus vids. He has a good running car. Mid 10s nothing to laugh at. He has more dialing in it to do with it-no biggy.

I don't know...a blower, some suspension work, and a few bolt-ons running mid 10s (in hot conditions) isn't too bad to me...

Yea for real.

Are you still working on that 5.0? :confused:
Or are you just settling with these lame excuses? :bs:

Here is the "late night top 5":

1. I love how you contort the fact you got crushed/beat/walked etc.. into "still fun and good runs" If anyone else on LS1 Tech ran that bullsh#t you would be first to have something negative to say, blah, blah, blah...

2. That BMW is fast, much faster than your car. With a driver mod ie. someone driving who does not care about breaking something, you would need 50 lengths to even be close.

3. I am really disappointed with your 5.0. After all that work and RWHP it only ran mid ten's?

4. You have balls posting such a clear loss. Really big, hairy ones. Gross.

5. How's that slush box working out for you. Maybe you should try a Turbo 400 or C6 with a gear vendors OD for all that "Texas Mile" style racing you do. But then your 5.0 will be just a bit further from "stock".

:usa:

Did ohio touch you in your private parts when you were young?

You have built faceplanned tranny not close to what came in it and an engine swap. Love how you always tray to down grade your shit.

The m3 makes almakes almost 600whp on 93. I say he did something right. He also goes out and races bikes for money on a regular. Why wouldn't he want to run it at full potential
A stock engine was a real hard build to swap in. Nothing to down play there.
It's because he's slow. :D

Yep.....but atleast I built it myself. And for what it is it performs pretty well. :cheers:

I don't know...a blower, some suspension work, and a few bolt-ons running mid 10s (in hot conditions) isn't too bad to me...

Good point...if we were talking about someone else. But c'mon now, this is Ohio here...you know, the guy that claimed every BOLT-ON 5.0 should be in the high 10s-low 11s @ 125! :lol: It's no surprise anyone would question the results of his boosted car. That's what happens when you put your foot in your mouth.

Are you still working on that 5.0? :confused:
Or are you just settling with these lame excuses? :bs:

Here is the "late night top 5":

1. I love how you contort the fact you got crushed/beat/walked etc.. into "still fun and good runs" If anyone else on LS1 Tech ran that bullsh#t you would be first to have something negative to say, blah, blah, blah...

2. That BMW is fast, much faster than your car. With a driver mod ie. someone driving who does not care about breaking something, you would need 50 lengths to even be close.

3. I am really disappointed with your 5.0. After all that work and RWHP it only ran mid ten's?

4. You have balls posting such a clear loss. Really big, hairy ones. Gross.

5. How's that slush box working out for you. Maybe you should try a Turbo 400 or C6 with a gear vendors OD for all that "Texas Mile" style racing you do. But then your 5.0 will be just a bit further from "stock".

:usa:

SO as above mid 10's in 90*+ weather in 3400 DA, at 3800lbs still tweaking on DR's, stock suspension and 620whp. ..HMMMM not bad to me.

Losing to a car that is set up for highway run that tops out over 200mph. No Excuses here. I posted what happen and video. And his car runs best of 11.8@138 at the track to my 10.60's at 129-133.

So what was your point?

Good point...if we were talking about someone else. But c'mon now, this is Ohio here...you know, the guy that claimed every BOLT-ON 5.0 should be in the high 10s-low 11s @ 125! :lol: It's no surprise anyone would question the results of his boosted car. That's what happens when you put your foot in your mouth.

In ideal or close conditions and right set up it is very possible to get them to low 11's and even high 10's. Kinda liek all cammed LS1 Fbody's run 10's as well when there is least 10 here that can't break into the 11's. Now is every one going to do it of course not. Has it been done several times. Yes. Must I post all the video's of them doing it yet again.

Good point...if we were talking about someone else. But c'mon now, this is Ohio here...you know, the guy that claimed every BOLT-ON 5.0 should be in the high 10s-low 11s @ 125! :lol: It's no surprise anyone would question the results of his boosted car. That's what happens when you put your foot in your mouth.

Damn he has you there Ohio.....

looks like they do it with just bolt ons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdM2fQ4UKvU&feature=g-user-u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbCNYUH2g7E&feature=g-user-u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VozITGF-DR4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNsZBgd3bC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADx2kpL9dDA

In ideal or close conditions and right set up it is very possible to get them to low 11's and even high 10's. Kinda liek all cammed LS1 Fbody's run 10's as well when there is least 10 here that can't break into the 11's. Now is every one going to do it of course not. Has it been done several times. Yes. Must I post all the video's of them doing it yet again.

Although I have no clue what moderate 5.0's are capable of I do completely agree with what you are saying there. It's as if every car that has x setup will always run Y time. The truth is that it's always a wide range of results. That goes for any and all platforms. I find it retarded when people say "that doesn't make sense, it should run x". There is a double standard being an LSx site that people take a pass at that comment when it's in regards to an LSx, but if it's any other platform you'll catch shit to no end for cherry picking results even if it's on numerous occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADx2kpL9dDA

Promoting "shop" cars again eh? Ironic how *your* car never got close to that with the same mods/similar weight. :winkwink:

Back to reality guys...

Although I have no clue what moderate 5.0's are capable of I do completely agree with what you are saying there. It's as if every car that has x setup will always run Y time. The truth is that it's always a wide range of results. That goes for any and all platforms. I find it retarded when people say "that doesn't make sense, it should run x". There s a double standard being an LSx site that people take a pass at that comment when it's in regards to an LSx, but if it's any other platform you'll catch shit to no end for cherry picking results even if it's on numerous occasions.

Why do you find it retarded when its fact :confused: X car with X power, gear and weight
should run X time. Doesn't mean its always going to happen though, but to say its "retarded" makes you sound pretty silly actually.

looks like they do it with just bolt ons

I hope you realize, as I do, that in comparison with those videos your 5.0 looks even LESS impressive.

:usa:

Ohio,

I'm trying to defend you here, but your constant gay 5.0 shit is not helping my cause trying to convert these ls1tech haters to like you.

Stop posting your gay ass shit about bolt on 5.0s. They can run 9s for all I care, but who gives a fuck. Personally if a bolt on 5th gen was running .4, .5 slower than my boosted setup I would shoot myself.

looks like they do it with just bolt ons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdM2fQ4UKvU&feature=g-user-u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbCNYUH2g7E&feature=g-user-u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VozITGF-DR4

Yours did'nt.....you must really suck.

Promoting "shop" cars again eh? Ironic how *your* car never got close to that with the same mods/similar weight. :winkwink:

Back to reality guys...

Who cares if shop car or personally owned. It ran what it did. Mine never ran below 11.4. Driver, track, da, all come into play.

I hope you realize, as I do, that in comparison with those videos your 5.0 looks even LESS impressive.

:usa:

Really. Everyone them cars weighs almost 400lbs lighter and in some cases ran in 3800 da better then me. And there all on slicks to my drag radials. Athey all have full drag suspension to my stock. And every one is slower and trap on average of 8mph slower.

Ohio,

I'm trying to defend you here, but your constant gay 5.0 shit is not helping my cause trying to convert these ls1tech haters to like you.

Stop posting your gay ass shit about bolt on 5.0s. They can run 9s for all I care, but who gives a fuck. Personally if a bolt on 5th gen was running .4, .5 slower than my boosted setup I would shoot myself.

As I said its possible they can run these times. They all weight 3500lbs roughly with driver, ran in perfect or least good da. Run slicks and have full suspension compared to my Dr and stock suspension in 3800 da at almost 4000lbs with driver.


Killeen.da like you taking car to track.and it ran a 13 with cam. Yet plenty have went deep 11's now with cam on 5th Gen. Or what it run now in 1/4. Should run least a mid 9 with your mods compared to others with similar mods.

As I said its possible they can run these times. They all weight 3500lbs roughly with driver, ran in perfect or least good da. Run slicks and have full suspension compared to my Dr and stock suspension in 3800 da at almost 4000lbs with driver.


Killeen.da like you taking car to track.and it ran a 13 with cam. Yet plenty have went deep 11's now with cam on 5th Gen. Or what it run now in 1/4. Should run least a mid 9 with your mods compared to others with similar mods.

Don't you be talking back to me!

I will always be your stout defender!
To infinity and beyond!

The time is good I would just think it should trap higher than that with as much whp you have.

The time is good I would just think it should trap higher than that with as much whp you have.

It trapped best of 131 at 620whp. Inline with others with my mods. Now I have suspension and more power but no tire to handle it. But once switch tire it should ET 9.9-10.3@134-136 from others with similar whp/weight/setup.

Don't you be talking back to me!

I will always be your stout defender!
To infinity and beyond!

If I could pick one unlikely person from here to hang out with, it would be you. I feel like I would wake up in a ditch the next morning with probably no money, slightly lumped up, and not remember much, but I'd have that feeling that I had a good time :lol:

Don't you be talking back to me!

I will always be your stout defender!
To infinity and beyond!

LOL...I'm buzz damn it.

If I could pick one unlikely person from here to hang out with, it would be you. I feel like I would wake up in a ditch the next morning with probably no money, slightly lumped up, and not remember much, but I'd have that feeling that I had a good time :lol:

At least I would be next to you. :usa:

I ain't no bitch, we die, we die together.

LOL...I'm buzz damn it.

Now for love of god, get some slicks on and get some times. If you still running bitch times trade that shitty paxton in for a top mount like us big boys do it.:cool:

Now for love of god, get some slicks on and get some times. If you still running bitch times trade that shitty paxton in for a top mount like us big boys do it.:cool:

LOL...I'm in middle of trying to pcs, go on leave, finish my ncoer. Going to track is on the bottom of list. Specially when its still 100+* out.

It trapped best of 131 at 620whp. Inline with others with my mods. Now I have suspension and more power but no tire to handle it. But once switch tire it should ET 9.9-10.3@134-136 from others with similar whp/weight/setup.

My bad I look at it wrong I thought you was over 700whp and trapping 129-130

My bad I look at it wrong I thought you was over 700whp and trapping 129-130

Nope. I took it out 2 times with it over 700whp. First time was at a streeet event where you get no times. Its heads up race for the most. All street legal cars. Has to be DOT approved tires, factory glass, no back half cars, current inspection, current registration. I made it to finals and it got rained out. Was suppose to race a GTO that beat me before. I spun hard he jumped out about 4 cars cause i spun and let out got back into it. I closed it back to 1 car win for him. He runs 10.6-10.8@132. stroker 408 h/c/stall/pedders full suspension front rear, k member etc, bigs littles, nitrous

2nd time all I did was spin. still managed to run a couple 10.6-10.8's@134-135 with shitty 1.8-2.0 60fts.

Yeah I heard of that all street legal cars only I think it's only Sunday's they do that.

Yeah I heard of that all street legal cars only I think it's only Sunday's they do that.

They changed to Saturday nights now. Next one is this saturday. Plus Little river is having one during the day with a car show. But Little river will have drag cars they allow to run with street cars.

If he did not want to do a dig he would of got the brake stomp at 135 lol There would be no moon racing from me. If you where going into 5th then that is why it looked so bad up top he was probably still in his 1:1 while your car fell on its face.

Nice runs...that M3 is sick.