Street Racing & Kill Stories - whats its take for a ls1 to beat a pullied 03 cobra?

just seeing if any of you have raced and pullied 03 cobras with ls1 cars,wondering what set ups did what?

Easiest way is a bolt on car with a 150 shot. Also my car in sig will do it N/A too.

If thats your car in your sig, you should have it covered.

ok,im doin heads cam and stall,wondering if that would be enough on motor,i plan on addin atleast a 100 wet shot also

Yes, and on spray it would be even worse.

good lol,because where i live theres just so many,its gets old seein them race pretty much stock ls1's and winning and thinking the accomplished something

My pullied cobra went 11.40s at 121....the car had more in it but i got kicked out...it beat cars tbat went faster than that from a roll. Every driver and car is different. Its hard to say what setup would beat what....and yes Boggs you live on cobra central lol....this is cory that had the white cobra.

Nice kill.

And welcome to 2003.

just seeing if any of you have raced and pullied 03 cobras with ls1 cars,wondering what set ups did what?

The only thing that can beat a 03 Cobra is a 04 Cobra...noob.

My pullied cobra went 11.40s at 121....the car had more in it but i got kicked out...it beat cars tbat went faster than that from a roll. Every driver and car is different. Its hard to say what setup would beat what....and yes Boggs you live on cobra central lol....this is cory that had the white cobra. Damn 11.4 @120,that's effin good.Pullied n ported or just pullied? weight redux, sra? that's not unbelievable but not the norm either, those times and trap are what a ported cobra usually runs

ok,im doin heads cam and stall,wondering if that would be enough on motor,i plan on addin atleast a 100 wet shot also with H/C/E it should be a damn good run vs a pullied cobra, with the edge going to you, depending how well setup the cobra is. A ported cobra properly driven should come on top, but anything can happen on the skreetz, for a sure win just put her on the dope..

just seeing if any of you have raced and pullied 03 cobras with ls1 cars,wondering what set ups did what?

Good kill OP, you had him until he hit vtec.


BTW, you will need a 300whp civic, but then again you're better off setting your sights on Bugatti's and if you are really lucky Mach1's:gruffy:

My pullied cobra went 11.40s at 121....the car had more in it but i got kicked out...it beat cars tbat went faster than that from a roll. Every driver and car is different. Its hard to say what setup would beat what....and yes Boggs you live on cobra central lol....this is cory that had the white cobra.

lol i seen your name on here and i immediatly thought of you! yes im in no mans land right ow thats for sure,u know my car is stock,i have a guy areguing on my other video go take a look of me racing a new 5.0

just seeing if any of you have raced and pullied 03 cobras with ls1 cars,wondering what set ups did what?

Bolt on Mach-1.

Good kill OP, you had him until he hit vtec.

hahahahaha you're so shitty.

Bolt on Mach-1.

That's about right LOL

a nice h/c/i comboo,depends with what set up u have,my buddys cam only has beaten a few

I guess it all depends on how bad you want the beating to be....

With both cars running extremely healthy it should take you an aggressive set of H/C and all supporting bolt ons to edge out the Pulley and all supporting mods COBRA....

**Notice how I stated "both cars running healthy"..**

Find one get video and post results...

The only thing that can beat a 03 Cobra is a 04 Cobra...noob.




LoL, well played sir!

I guess it all depends on how bad you want the beating to be....

With both cars running extremely healthy it should take you an aggressive set of H/C and all supporting bolt ons to edge out the Pulley and all supporting mods COBRA....

**Notice how I stated "both cars running healthy"..**

Find one get video and post results...
True, remember Jesse with the black Camaro? M6's do way better from a roll tho, this was with my kb on the same setup i ran you (well wit the spray tune and less timing), he on that run didn't spray me, H/C/I/E and boltons, 436ish if i can remember
http://youtu.be/bs3IsBQGt9s

Op, anything can happen on the street. Raced twice and this was by far the closest. I gave him the hit so there was no whining. This one had 315 DR`s on it. Was it driven to the best extent? No. Would it have mattered? No.

And define "pullied" becuase this car was pullied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM8zsbuI-44&feature=plcp

True, remember Jesse with the black Camaro? M6's do way better from a roll tho, this was with my kb on the same setup i ran you (well wit the spray tune and less timing), he on that run didn't spray me, H/C/I/E and boltons, 436ish if i can remember
http://youtu.be/bs3IsBQGt9s

Damn bro, I dont know man... lol

not sure what to make out of that vid you posted...

Jesse and I was a dead even run... but when I raced you, i lost by a much bigger margin.... wtf?

one of the following things could have happened:

-you ran jesse on that vid when your car was running crappy (remember that night I was beat you a couple of times on I-10)?

-Jesse sprayed you a lilttle?

-You sprayed me a little?

LoL.... I guess anything happens in the skreetz!

It all depends. there are some pretty sick termi's out there.

Skip to 3:00 mark to see races.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeP5Ud-koks

Op, anything can happen on the street. Raced twice and this was by far the closest. I gave him the hit so there was no whining. This one had 315 DR`s on it. Was it driven to the best extent? No. Would it have mattered? No.

And define "pullied" becuase this car was pullied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM8zsbuI-44&feature=plcp

nice vid!,im meaning with the smallest pulley they can put on one,2.8 im thinking im not sure

Damn bro, I dont know man... lol

not sure what to make out of that vid you posted...

Jesse and I was a dead even run... but when I raced you, i lost by a much bigger margin.... wtf?

one of the following things could have happened:

-you ran jesse on that vid when your car was running crappy (remember that night I was beat you a couple of times on I-10)?

-Jesse sprayed you a lilttle?

-You sprayed me a little?

LoL.... I guess anything happens in the skreetz!
Maybe he has 2 stages and used one or maybe my car was running crappy, but one thing you can be sure i didn't spray you, bet on that. When you throwing the jug on the vette?

Maybe he has 2 stages and used one or maybe my car was running crappy, but one thing you can be sure i didn't spray you, bet on that. When you throwing the jug on the vette?

Yeah, your car had its good days but i remember towards the end of me staying in FL it was acting up sometimes.

No spray for me, i had spray on my mustang and it was fun but not for me.

Ii compare using spray to banging a really hot prostitute. Yeah you hit it and had fun but at the end of the day you cant really claim you pulled that.

There really is a huge number of twin screw Cobras running like dog shit out there. I make 672rwhp with a lil old 2.2 on e85. If i ever had a H/C/I ls1 run within a buslength of me, i would keep driving after the run right into oncoming traffic. Both relatively full weight of course.

OP A strong running cam only car with a fast intake will give a pullied cobra all it can handle. Must be a pretty large cam though as the cobra has a huge torque advantage. See my sig and ask me how i know!!

And most ported cobras trap higher than 121. I have seen 125 from well driven and tuned full weight cars.

A bolt-on ls6 seems to handle a pullied cobra with ease from my experience.

There really is a huge number of twin screw Cobras running like dog shit out there. I make 672rwhp with a lil old 2.2 on e85. If i ever had a H/C/I ls1 run within a buslength of me, i would keep driving after the run right into oncoming traffic. Both relatively full weight of course.

OP A strong running cam only car with a fast intake will give a pullied cobra all it can handle. Must be a pretty large cam though as the cobra has a huge torque advantage. See my sig and ask me how i know!!

well put,thanks for the info! i paln on spraying too,im pretty much the only ls1 guy around within like 50 miles that races in a cobra dominated town lol

A bolt-on ls6 seems to handle a pullied cobra with ease from my experience.Your car is not the norm. Most bolton ls6 cars are in the 375-385 range. I owned one. Your also not full weight.

A full weight f-body is going to need a healthy cam and a lot of boltons but not heads for a pulled cobra. See my sig, I have owned both cars in question. The pullied cobra is more fun on the street though due to the massive torque curve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REI3Utmb15k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Bolt on Mach-1.

This +1

Your car is not the norm. Most bolton ls6 cars are in the 375-385 range. I owned one. Your also not full weight.

A full weight f-body is going to need a healthy cam and a lot of boltons but not heads for a pulled cobra. See my sig, I have owned both cars in question. The pullied cobra is more fun on the street though due to the massive torque curve.

I never had no problem with them when I was at/near full weight with basic bolt-ons. My car has not always been this light. The cobra does have more low rpm tq, but it lacks being able to turn as much rpm........which is more fun on the street.

youseewhatIdidthar

I never had no problem with them when I was at/near full weight with basic bolt-ons. My car has not always been this light. The cobra does have more low rpm tq, but it lacks being able to turn as much rpm........which is more fun on the street.

youseewhatIdidtharYour car runs better than every bolton ls6 f-body ive heard of. But it is not the norm, hence all the questions and doubts from others. Not me your car is obviously a freak.

I spin to almost 7k with no problem in my car. I dont do it often as i dont need to. On another note. This is one of my favorite all time vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64JxqUjcwE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Your car runs better than every bolton ls6 f-body ive heard of. But it is not the norm, hence all the questions and doubts from others. Not me your car is obviously a freak.

I spin to almost 7k with no problem in my car. I dont do it often as i dont need to. On another note. This is one of my favorite all time vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64JxqUjcwE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I got my best e.t by spinning mine to 7,000 rpms; I don't like spinning it that hard though.

They're not gonna spin that hard with a eaton. Both of you have whipples. No better then the bearings stay in them I would'nt turn it to hard if I were you.

They're not gonna spin that hard with a eaton. Both of you have whipples. No better then the bearings stay in them I would'nt turn it to hard if I were you.



So was it rpm's or tune that ate the bearings in the motor that you have?

They're not gonna spin that hard with a eaton. Both of you have whipples. No better then the bearings stay in them I would'nt turn it to hard if I were you.

You can spin that hard with the stock Eaton. On my old Ported/N20 '03 I shifted at 7k and had the limiter set to 7200. Many have done it with no problems.

Your car runs better than every bolton ls6 f-body ive heard of. But it is not the norm, hence all the questions and doubts from others. Not me your car is obviously a freak.

I spin to almost 7k with no problem in my car. I dont do it often as i dont need to. On another note. This is one of my favorite all time vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64JxqUjcwE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

that SS makes me wna drown some kittens i friggin love it lol,that SS is a beast! whos is it ?

So was it rpm's or tune that ate the bearings in the motor that you have?
Probably the tune. But there were no signs of detonation. It just spun a bearing. It was still on the stock limiter.
You can spin that hard with the stock Eaton. On my old Ported/N20 '03 I shifted at 7k and had the limiter set to 7200. Many have done it with no problems.

The modular bottoms have never been known for their strength.......many have blown up for no apparent reason. Do a search on svt, it's almost epidemic like. Finicky motors for sure.

Probably the tune. But there were no signs of detonation. It just spun a bearing. It was still on the stock limiter.


The modular bottoms have never been known for their strength.......many have blown up for no apparent reason. Do a search on svt, it's almost epidemic like. Finicky motors for sure.

It's a toss..some blow-up and some last thru years of abuse like my '03 did. I never made any real crazy power with it though.

Your car runs better than every bolton ls6 f-body ive heard of. But it is not the norm, hence all the questions and doubts from others. Not me your car is obviously a freak.

I spin to almost 7k with no problem in my car. I dont do it often as i dont need to. On another note. This is one of my favorite all time vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64JxqUjcwE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Nitrous hit FTW!

Probably the tune. But there were no signs of detonation. It just spun a bearing. It was still on the stock limiter.


The modular bottoms have never been known for their strength.......many have blown up for no apparent reason. Do a search on svt, it's almost epidemic like. Finicky motors for sure.



I hang around LS guys and Cobra guys and can tell you just as many LS guys have rod bearing issues as the Cobra guys.

OP A strong running cam only car with a fast intake will give a pullied cobra all it can handle. Must be a pretty large cam though as the cobra has a huge torque advantage. See my sig and ask me how i know!!


I disagree, in my experience if both cars are healthy it will take H/C not just Cam to beat a pulley cobra. If both cars are full weight of course.

Pulley cobras will usually trap 118 some a little more and a bunch more less.

And most ported cobras trap higher than 121. I have seen 125 from well driven and tuned full weight cars.

From my experience average ported cobras run 121, some a little more some a little less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REI3Utmb15k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thats a very awsome race and fbody is healthy.

I hang around LS guys and Cobra guys and can tell you just as many LS guys have rod bearing issues as the Cobra guys.

The difference is there are ALOT more ls engines than there are cobra engines. Most guys kill the ls on a 150 shot, which far more stressful on a engine than boost. I have yet to see one blow up for no real reason, hell I only know of 1 local ls that has blown up. Several mod motors has though, and none were as fast as the ls.

He used to be on here before he sold the car to move overseas a while back. Dvst8r or something like that was his screen name.

I built my SS similar to his a few years back. That car is cam only, fast intake, full exhaust, 4.10s and a tnt f1 kit set for a 150rwhp shot.

The difference is there are ALOT more ls engines than there are cobra engines. Most guys kill the ls on a 150 shot, which far more stressful on a engine than boost. I have yet to see one blow up for no real reason, hell I only know of 1 local ls that has blown up. Several mod motors has though, and none were as fast as the ls.Poor tunes are the reason which is shown by all the recent threads of cars only making 530-550 rwhp with twin screws. And not enough cooling mods for high boost on pump gas. My car has been at 672rwhp and 21 psi for a long time. I also have every cooling mod possible, a wide band 02 in the car and a real water temp gauge. Anything over 210 degrees and i wont run it hard. It is also tuned by one of the best tuners on SVTP. Running on e85 adds 80rwhp and the car runs 10-15 degrees cooler with no other changes. My car is built the right way. Not half assed with a blower upgrade and barely enough mods to support it safely. If your suggesting the ls1 will hold more power than the terminator 4.6 your dead wrong.

As for cam only cars beating pullied cobras. I drove my first cobra the day after i sold my SS. From a roll my SS felt faster up top but the cobra felt faster on the street. My SS liked to be over 4500. Below that it felt gutless compared to the cobra.

And im willing to bet those cobras blew after sustained pulls without proper cooling mods. From the factory coolant pools in the rear of the driver side head causing #7 and 8 to get extremely hot and voila. Cylinder down. They make kits to allow the coolant to flow back thru the system and cool properly.

Those cars spun a bearing due to heat. I did the same in my old DSM years ago running a big turbo on a sidemount intercooler to be stealthy. Detonated and spun a bearing as the intercooler could not keep up

Mine has the coolant mod. So now your telling me you have to do mods to keep them alive. I think you just proved my point.

Mine has the coolant mod. So now your telling me you have to do mods to keep them alive. I think you just proved my point.
Oh boy. My car makes 300rwhp more than a stock cobra. If you want it to live by raising the boost and running a bigger blower and generating more heat than i guess so. Head cooling mod is 100- 150 for a kitcand a lot cheaper if you make your own. Most who do it the right way want it to stay together. Thermostat, dual pass heat exchanger, larger intercooler tank, head cooling mod, killer chiller etc... All relatively cheap mods if you want to call them that for added insurance.

Boost from top mounted blowers builds tremendous heat. The intercooler is very small under the blower and being on top heatsoaks easy from engine heat alone let alone sustained high speed runs where iat's rise quickly. Most ls1 motors die at 525 or so from boost due to the heat generated. Most tuners will tell you anything over 8 psi is borrowed time.

Mine is half assed :gruffy:



I don't have the head cooling mod, but I don't hot lap it either.

Mine is half assed :gruffy:



I don't have the head cooling mod, but I don't hot lap it either.
I wouldnt say no head cooling mod is half assed. More so swapping blowers and doing nothing more than a bap and injectors and wondering why the car pulls timing after sustained runs and then eventually pops. I know of several cars over 700 rwhp on stock long blocks for quite some time. My has been on this setup for over 10k miles and gets run pretty hard.

Mine has been on the same set up for 2 1/2 years. I ran it a lot when I bought it 3 years ago, but since I started back on my race car; I've just been dd'ing it. Apparently they are weak and hard on rod bearings, wish I had known that 3 years ago before I started racing it and beating on it.

I have seen a lot of local Terminators fail with power below 500 in the last 10 years. I am sure it is due to tuning and heat soak related failures. Sans the pistons its a pretty stout shortblock though.

Way too many cobras run canned tunes from hand held tuners. I would never run a canned predator pulley tune without dynoing the car. There are a lot of idiots running around driving cobras it seems.

A lot of people tune them that have no knowledge of the cars other than the forged motor means they can lean on them harder to get a bigger dyno number.