Street Racing & Kill Stories - 2011 Camaro vs Blown 5.0

Met a new guy at the car spot tonight and we arranged a race.

2011 Camaro
429, 4L80 + stall, 602rwhp, Welds + mickeys, 3610 lbs

5.0 Mustang
TVS 2300+ small pulley 13 PSI, bolt-ons, Welds+mickeys 697rwhp, 3650 lbs



5.0 had a 200lb passenger, camaro did not.

We were door to door mostly. He'd pull a fender and then lose it when he had to shift, since I have auto magic. From a 40-140 roll... was an awesome race. Both cars are solid low 10 second cars, with the mustang having the clear roll race advantage. If he didn't have a passenger, no doubt he'd have pulled a car or so to 140. He ended up out about a fender at the end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arF5TRGsGlY






***EDITEDITEDITEDITEDIT***
We had a rematch tonight. 5.0 trans was fixed, I added my 3.91 gears, and he also added a bigger throttle body to his previous 702whp setup. The results are as follows (a W for him, by a nose @ 140)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw_UlVMuiPE

Come down to Panama. I wanna race you on 12psi.

Also elmeros camaro is faster than your shitbox.

cheers.

Also elmeros camaro is faster than your shitbox.



Not on the 400 shot, it isnt.

:jest:

Not on the 400 shot, it isnt.

:jest:

You got nothing to do vs his tune straight pipe L99 bro.

Keep dreaming that your 400 shot will save you. Since you'll have a "nitrous tune" he will be able to easily beat you.

On a serious note your car seems hella fast. I think if you guys kept going you were going to slightly walk, tbh.

You got nothing to do vs his tune straight pipe L99 bro.

Keep dreaming that your 400 shot will save you. Since you'll have a "nitrous tune" he will be able to easily beat you.

My goal is to go faster then the RPM car. We'll see here shortly :nod:

My goal is to go faster then the RPM car. We'll see here shortly :nod:

How's your nitrous going to be set up?

400 off the line?

Progressive direct port.

I'm rooting for you. Don't blow anything.

I'm rooting you blow it up too ... Wait that's not right. Wicked car what #'s are you shooting for on n2o

Nice race.

Good run!

Nice run!

Great match up. I think you would catch him. Nice. :nod:

Badass race man, you got to be happy with those results


DIET COKE!!!!!
http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/les-grossman-e1276120801266.png

DC you sure have come a LONG way since Heber hit you in the eye with that stick LOL, congrats bro you turned out OK.

DC you sure have come a LONG way since Heber hit you in the eye with that stick LOL, congrats bro you turned out OK.

It was a bat, Ken.


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Nice run. What was your weight?

nice run... 5.0 driver def needs to quicken those shifts though.... unless of course hes still running an mt82... in that case. Hes doing the right thing. If he has a 6060 swap... hes slacking

Good race!

nice run... 5.0 driver def needs to quicken those shifts though.... unless of course hes still running an mt82... in that case. Hes doing the right thing. If he has a 6060 swap... hes slacking

He's got a magnum 6060.

Ohio weight is in first post. 3610 with rollbar :judge:

Cant ask for a better race!

He's got a magnum 6060.

Ohio weight is in first post. 3610 with rollbar :judge:

then hes slacking lol. But still good race.

He's got a magnum 6060.

Ohio weight is in first post. 3610 with rollbar :judge:

Man you got some weight out car. That's my next move. Really get serious with weight reduction. Your car rolls out. When you spray its going to get crazy.

Man you got some weight out car. That's my next move. Really get serious with weight reduction. Your car rolls out. When you spray its going to get crazy.

Don't be gay.

Just invest in some real suspension and some slicks and you'll be in the 9s.

Don't be gay.

Just invest in some real suspension and some slicks and you'll be in the 9s.

I already have suspension, just need some slicks.

Good run.

Nice runs!

Nice race! Would like to see a rematch with even passengers.

I really like your 5th gen, finally a well built one.

Both bad ass rides!

What does your car trap?

Tad over 130

.5 left on the table with granny at the wheel in the 5.0 terrible...just terrible.

nice!

good runs

two fast cars

Great run. And for the love of god, can we please have a srk thread where there isn't a damn shifting excuse.....I mean come on.....lmao.

Great run. And for the love of god, can we please have a srk thread where there isn't a damn shifting excuse.....I mean come on.....lmao.
Not all us just put our car in D.;)

Nice runs!

And believe it or not, some cars will actually break the transmission if you shift it like a mad man. It's called a weak link. ;)

I prefer my car not to have one, but it costs some dough.

Damn!!! Mustang is BA but the 5th Gen is more BA!!! NA car doin the damn thing!!

good race! please somebody give the 5.0 a driver mod

Bump for new video and rematch (edited in first post)

If that mustang had a normal driver it would've been a better run for him. Nice vid

Damn, imagine what that 5.0 could do if it was 500 pounds lighter and had a automagic :gruffy:

WOW he pulled nice till he shifted. Freaking Good runs though.

Looks like you pulled up on him op. You started a little behind him and ended up even.

Good runs OP. I say the 5.0 still needs a driver mod.

Some strong running tanks...

That's a badass 5th gen.

600+whp N/A through a stalled 4L80...awesome.

i also like the weight on the fifth gen too

Looks like you pulled Dietcoke?!

Looks like the mustang is slightly faster but cant handle the shifts. In this particular situation, id rather have the fifth gen over the 5.0. Stalled auto n/a running that hard is def more my cup of tea then just another supercharged car

Come to your own conclusions I guess. I didnt know if it was a W or a L till I saw the video, but it is what it is.

Imagine if the SS was 250ibs less and turbo -

Nice run Coke!

Come to your own conclusions I guess. I didnt know if it was a W or a L till I saw the video, but it is what it is.

If the 5.0 drive was clutch and could shift gears, my guess is he has you by about a car length to a car and a half in that same race. But like you said, its simply my conclusion. In this particular situation, i like your car a lot more.. regardless of if its slower or faster. An all motor stalled auto going that fast is awesome. The 5.0 is just another supercharged car in my eyes.

Imagine if the SS was 250ibs less and turbo -

Nice run Coke!

Im imagining that it would be faster? Thats like saying... imagine if the 5.0 had a built motor and another 10lbs of boost...ummm it would also go faster?

Both cars are solid low 10 second cars, with the mustang having the clear roll race advantage.

***EDITEDITEDITEDITEDIT***
We had a rematch tonight. 5.0 trans was fixed, I added my 3.91 gears, and he also added a bigger throttle body to his previous 702whp setup. The results are as follows (a W for him, by a nose @ 140)


Do either cars have roll cages to comply with NHRA rules?

Do most people care about that stuff?

Both are strong running cars! The auto's advantage is apparent...

That is the prime reason why I want to do the auto swap on my Z06.... Proof is in the pudding...

The Camaro is bad ass for its weight...

Do either cars have roll cages to comply with NHRA rules?

Do most people care about that stuff?

I have a 6pt +kirkey & backbrace, 5pt harness, SFI stuff, etc. Mustang does not.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/292855_518279831518855_2141708606_n.jpg

Gonna have to do some more cagework soon too, since I expect to go faster then 10.0 next time out

I have a 6pt +kirkey & backbrace, 5pt harness, SFI stuff, etc. Mustang does not.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/292855_518279831518855_2141708606_n.jpg

Gonna have to do some more cagework soon too, since I expect to go faster then 10.0 next time out

racecar...lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIM1FVHZRuU&feature=channel&list=UL

Heres some shifting... notice the difference?

racecar...lol

Automatic. Stereo. Air conditioning... full interior. :gay:

Forgive me for making the car nhra legal so I can actually race it at the track.

What's your best pass on motor so far diet?

10.1 @ 133

racecar...lol

Difference is, Diet Coke never tries to use the "its a street car, really!" approach. Sure he can drive it on the streets, better then most race cars maybe, but he had a target in mind for his missile the minute he bought it: gut the hell out of it, get the baddest nitrous motor he could afford, with every part and every pound lost aimed squarely at the 1/4 mile runs in the low 10's on motor.

His shit runs like no other 5th gen I've seen, a new camaro that weighed less then most 4th gens before the cage install. Just wish he still lived near me so I could watch him destroy some more cars in person.

I'll beat you diet on my stock motor transmission AND full weight. Might only survive one pass though :(

:engarde:

10.1 @ 133

nasty

Difference is, Diet Coke never tries to use the "its a street car, really!" approach. Sure he can drive it on the streets, better then most race cars maybe, but he had a target in mind for his missile the minute he bought it: gut the hell out of it, get the baddest nitrous motor he could afford, with every part and every pound lost aimed squarely at the 1/4 mile runs in the low 10's on motor.

His shit runs like no other 5th gen I've seen, a new camaro that weighed less then most 4th gens before the cage install. Just wish he still lived near me so I could watch him destroy some more cars in person.

I cant. People would call bullshit as soon as it starts. :pimp::chug:

Don't hook up your nitrous.
That's cheating.

400 shot DP on a progressive controller. For hurting feelings only.

Your car is awesome op!

400 shot DP on a progressive controller. For hurting feelings only.

Cheating.

10.1 @ 133

Nasty, 5th Gen guys need to follow your lead.

10.1 @ 133



That's strong as hell, much props :cheers:

whats the specs on your 429? CR, cam, heads? E85?

I made 560 on a mustang dyno and was shocked to see you cracked 600, nevermind through an auto. (not hating at all) just blown away.

10.1 @ 133 is wicked. nice job man.

whats the specs on your 429? CR, cam, heads? E85?

I made 560 on a mustang dyno and was shocked to see you cracked 600, nevermind through an auto. (not hating at all) just blown away.

10.1 @ 133 is wicked. nice job man.

14:1 compression, 251/259 .670 113+3 ls (lsl lobe). LS7X 265s+mamofied LS7 fast to match them. Has a vac pump, which was worth 40 on its own. Car made 565wheel with breathers, 602 with the pump

quick question explain your user name...diet coke

Awesome car man! I'm a turbo bandwagon rider but I don't know any true gearhead that doesn't love a N/A car that hauls ass. That kind of compression, I'm sure your car sounds amazing at idle, it sounds amazing in the videos. So you're shooting for 850-900hp on n2o? That's pretty big power for not having forced induction, I don't think you'll have any problems hurting feelings lol.
As for the shifting of the 5.0, yes driver needs to do some work. The vid evangto87 posted, the driver knows how to shift. Depress clutch and never let the skinny pedal get a rest hahahahaha.

DC, you think you got enough meat on those pistons to handle a 400 shot? Every time I talk to a short block builder, I keep getting steered to a 416-sized LS3 for spraying that much.

14:1 compression, 251/259 .670 113+3 ls (lsl lobe). LS7X 265s+mamofied LS7 fast to match them. Has a vac pump, which was worth 40 on its own. Car made 565wheel with breathers, 602 with the pump

14:1 compression

:eek2: damn no wonder it's such a beast. 400 progressive shot should put it deep into the 9s easy.

14:1 compression, 251/259 .670 113+3 ls (lsl lobe). LS7X 265s+mamofied LS7 fast to match them. Has a vac pump, which was worth 40 on its own. Car made 565wheel with breathers, 602 with the pump



LoL, you've got more motor in your street car than I've got in my race car.


Be careful with it on that much gas, it can get away from you quick.

:eek2: damn no wonder it's such a beast. 400 progressive shot should put it deep into the 9s easy.

Running 10.1 @ 133mph on motor, I should certainly hope so :lol:

I still wanna race your pile of shit.

Let skype race yo.

DC, you think you got enough meat on those pistons to handle a 400 shot? Every time I talk to a short block builder, I keep getting steered to a 416-sized LS3 for spraying that much.

Beats me. :secret2:

Beats me. :secret2:

8 second capable?

14:1 compression, 251/259 .670 113+3 ls (lsl lobe). LS7X 265s+mamofied LS7 fast to match them. Has a vac pump, which was worth 40 on its own. Car made 565wheel with breathers, 602 with the pump

interesting. definitely looking into a vacuum pump kit now. I had no idea they were worth that kind of power :eek2: I thought it was around 5-10hp.

How much vacuum? any problems/draw backs?

interesting. definitely looking into a vacuum pump kit now. I had no idea they were worth that kind of power :eek2: I thought it was around 5-10hp.

How much vacuum? any problems/draw backs?

It pulls ~12 inches wot maxed out (there is an adjuster/vac bypass), but it has an underdrive pulley on the crank. With an overdrive for the pump, it would pull 14-16 inches easily (usually 14in hg is max power). It's a GZ motorsports kit for a vette that I modified to fit a 5th gen. Zero problems or draw backs, other then 10 pounds of extra weight. I wouldnt expect the rotor to last more then 25000 miles (you have to rebuild it), so it's probably not super daily driver friendly. (I only put 4k a year on the car)

8 second capable?

Maybe with more tire and 100 pounds of weight out. Waiting on the BMR/wilwood 15" kit...

Do you still have OEM hood? Are you allowed to run cars down the track in the US without a hood on?

He has the stock hood on it.

Thing is loud btw: the videos do it NO justice! I thought my ears were going to bleed when he passed me during our race. And my windows were only down a inch! I'd imagine it is loud enough to throw off a stick shift drivers rythm as it surely distracted me from scratchin' my sack during our race. Hate being distracted when I'm doing that.

It pulls ~12 inches wot maxed out (there is an adjuster/vac bypass), but it has an underdrive pulley on the crank. With an overdrive for the pump, it would pull 14-16 inches easily (usually 14in hg is max power). It's a GZ motorsports kit for a vette that I modified to fit a 5th gen. Zero problems or draw backs, other then 10 pounds of extra weight. I wouldnt expect the rotor to last more then 25000 miles (you have to rebuild it), so it's probably not super daily driver friendly. (I only put 4k a year on the car)

http://www.gzmotorsports.com/SPVPK-LSX-vacuum-pump-kit.html

that one?

I dont daily drive mine either. 4-5k a year is about right. even then, i cant imagine the rebuild being much?

Got a pic of it in the engine bay? Im blown away, why dont more people use these?

http://www.gzmotorsports.com/SPVPK-LSX-vacuum-pump-kit.html

that one?

I dont daily drive mine either. 4-5k a year is about right. even then, i cant imagine the rebuild being much?

Got a pic of it in the engine bay? Im blown away, why dont more people use these?

Yep, that's the one. Piggybacks the stock tensioner with an outer cog drive (bonus is you get a nice alum tensioner pully) which drives the pump. IDK why more people dont use them, but they're really only particularly useful if you turn stupid high rpms, OR have a larger (4.100+) stroke motor. The more stroke/rpms, the more power they can make, because there is more inherent crank pressure in that type of setup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLJrB1OmxIQ

Yep, that's the one. Piggybacks the stock tensioner with an outer cog drive (bonus is you get a nice alum tensioner pully) which drives the pump. IDK why more people dont use them, but they're really only particularly useful if you turn stupid high rpms, OR have a larger (4.100+) stroke motor. The more stroke/rpms, the more power they can make, because there is more inherent crank pressure in that type of setup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLJrB1OmxIQ

my 427 is a 4.1 stroke, 11.75:1 Lunati Voodoo 243/255 .651/.651 112+2.
I would assume if you can pick up 40whp from that, then I should be able to get atleast half that. Im just still shocked they make this kinda power.

Looks like ill be picking one up soon:D

btw, sorry, didnt mean to derail your thread.

Sick cars

How much has this build cost your wallet so far? Without the nitrous? And with it?

my 427 is a 4.1 stroke, 11.75:1 Lunati Voodoo 243/255 .651/.651 112+2.
I would assume if you can pick up 40whp from that, then I should be able to get atleast half that. Im just still shocked they make this kinda power.


Don't be so surprised, all good tuners know about it. My builder (ellis) told me not to use one on my car because of my putting 15-20k miles a year on it. Wish they had a clutch like the AC unit does that could be rigged to only come on at say 5k rpms or WOT. My 402 with 11.5 CR should pick up 20rwhp with a pump according to him.

How much has this build cost your wallet so far? Without the nitrous? And with it?

Less then you'd think. Doing 99% of your own work and labor saves a lot of money.

wait.... a vacuum pump? really?

Less then you'd think. Doing 99% of your own work and labor saves a lot of money.

More or less than $25k (what I have spent on parts and labor so far).
I'd just like to compare what I have spent overseas getting others to do mechanic work and what you have spent doing your own shit.

It pulls ~12 inches wot maxed out (there is an adjuster/vac bypass), but it has an underdrive pulley on the crank. With an overdrive for the pump, it would pull 14-16 inches easily (usually 14in hg is max power). It's a GZ motorsports kit for a vette that I modified to fit a 5th gen. Zero problems or draw backs, other then 10 pounds of extra weight. I wouldnt expect the rotor to last more then 25000 miles (you have to rebuild it), so it's probably not super daily driver friendly. (I only put 4k a year on the car)

HHmm I wonder how this would work on a bolt-on ls6:devil::devil: even if I only got 1/2 that it could put me at about 450 dynojet power.

I've been told that they work the best if the pistons are gas ported.

That's one of the things that I wish I had done when I was building my engine.

More or less than $25k (what I have spent on parts and labor so far).
I'd just like to compare what I have spent overseas getting others to do mechanic work and what you have spent doing your own shit.

On the engine itself? Well under 10k. Even less still, if you count the parts I sold off the stock engine

On the engine itself? Well under 10k. Even less still, if you count the parts I sold off the stock engine

modafukaaaaa

I'm at that point where it's either a nasty stroker (4k) or just a new engine all together.

Wont matter with a tvs on top. Need a better blower.

When are you going to tell them how you got the Diet Coke handle Cris...:D
Your car is super badazz man. That phucher is fast! When ever you get back to Georgia give me a call.

Steve I live in the savannah area, now stationed at Ft stewart! I thought you went out west doing the trucking thing.

Back in the ATL now. I'll PM ya the number.

Good Luck that car will run 8 the. They have not dead hook that car yet on the big gun

Awesome video and race between two well-matched fast cars. Gotta love it. :)

fCK... I shoulda bought a 5.0..

get the shifting fixed and you should walk away

We went from a low (20) roll this wkend. Was ugly for the 5.0.

Auto-magic

I'm sure it was. Auto magic and torque where you need it.