Automotive News, Media & Press - 2014 Grand Cherokee diesel

Haven't seen this posted yet...

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2012/07/2014-grand-cherokee-crd-sighted

The 2014 Grand Cherokee is set to start production in January 2013; the 2013s will have a short run. It will reportedly have a revised front end, with shorter, redesigned grilles, different bumpers, and new headlights; both interior and exterior are set to be “refreshed,” and we have been told to expect the eight-speed automatic (possibly phased in on the Hemi), the 8.4 inch touch-screen, and possibly a stop-start system and other measures to save fuel.

The VM 3.0 diesel should finally show up for the 2014 model year, as well. The shot here, taken in the greater Detroit area, shows one clearly marked “CRD” in back, with camouflage up front. The tailgate is the current version, but that’s expected to be modified for the 2014s; for engine testing, though, there’s no need to swap tailgates.

The eight-speed automatic to be built by Chrysler should be a good match for the diesel, if the two are indeed to be coupled up; the multitude of gears should help keep the diesel in its power band (diesels generally have far lower peak engine speeds than gasoline engines), while the wide range of the transmission should help balance acceleration and economy, by providing a reasonably low first gear and high top gear.

The diesel should be rated at around 241 horsepower and 406 lb-ft of torque, based on European measurements.


Rumored to get 23 city/ 33 hwy mpg! And that's with a 5 speed, should improve significantly with the new ZF 8 speed. I'm seriously considering buying this when it comes out, anyone know anything about these fiat derived diesels? If there is one thing this country needs its more diesel options, this helps... as long as the EPA doesn't declare war on it like they do to every other diesel offered. I'd love to have a mid sized SUV with great off road capability that gets the same gas mileage as a 4 cyl honda accord sedan

I would love to own one of those also. I'll be following these reports. I favor the Durango's styling over the Jeep though, so it would be nice if they do the same thing with the Durango.

I'd still love to have a Colorado/Canyon sized truck with a diesel engine...

I will probably be buying a Durango when the 2014's come out next May. Citadel with a Hemi and the 8spd.

I have heard the 8spd auto in the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger really bring the Pentastar V6 to life. I hope it does the same for the Hemi.

Turbo diesel and 8 speed trans, pretty cool. :cool:

Canada already has them, I saw them EVERYWHERE whil eI was in Toronto.

Canada already has them, I saw them EVERYWHERE whil eI was in Toronto.

I hate how we always get the good stuff last

heres some more info...

Not only does the latest generation of the 3.0-liter CRD engine with Multijet II management – built by VM Motori in Italy based on specifications from Fiat Powertrain Technologies – get 19-percent greater fuel efficiency than the previous mill, it produces 20-percent less CO2 emissions. Towing capacity is quoted at just over 7,700 pounds, the maximum for any current Grand Cherokee trim.

www.autoblog.com/2011/04/14/jeep-grand-cherokee-to-get-3-0l-diesel-v6-in-north-america-by-20/

So it will out-pull the hemi and get better MPG than the pentastar V6... lot's of win!

With all the new diesel emmision crap they put on modern diesel engines and the price for repairs on them, you wont see me buying ANYTHING diesel. The DEF alone is reason enough for me.

Rumored to get 23 city/ 33 hwy mpg! And that's with a 5 speed, should improve significantly with the new ZF 8 speed. I'm seriously considering buying this when it comes out, anyone know anything about these fiat derived diesels? If there is one thing this country needs its more diesel options, this helps... as long as the EPA doesn't declare war on it like they do to every other diesel offered. I'd love to have a mid sized SUV with great off road capability that gets the same gas mileage as a 4 cyl honda accord sedan

i'd like to know how they increased fuel economy from the outgoing GC CRD with all the extra emissions (DPF, Urea Injection) that are federally required for the new engine???

multiple owners are saying 27-29mpg tops on the highway for the older 3.0 CRD.

i'd like to know how they increased fuel economy from the outgoing GC CRD with all the extra emissions (DPF, Urea Injection) that are federally required for the new engine???

multiple owners are saying 27-29mpg tops on the highway for the older 3.0 CRD.

The old one had a 5 speed and the new one an 8 speed if I'm reading correctly...that should do it?

Haven't seen this posted yet...

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2012/07/2014-grand-cherokee-crd-sighted




Rumored to get 23 city/ 33 hwy mpg! And that's with a 5 speed, should improve significantly with the new ZF 8 speed. I'm seriously considering buying this when it comes out, anyone know anything about these fiat derived diesels? If there is one thing this country needs its more diesel options, this helps... as long as the EPA doesn't declare war on it like they do to every other diesel offered. I'd love to have a mid sized SUV with great off road capability that gets the same gas mileage as a 4 cyl honda accord sedanHowdy, I have some information on the Fiat diesel, Fiat owns 50% VM Motori and GM owns the other 50% of VM Motori diesel. :cheers:

The old one had a 5 speed and the new one an 8 speed if I'm reading correctly...that should do it?

that would make sense if the OD ratio changed, but it's the exact same. the OD gear ratio for the outgoing 5-speed auto (5th gear) and the new 8-speed auto (8th gear) are both .67:1.

so unless they've made some drastic changes to the aero of the vehicle, which would probably limit it's abilities as an off road rig, i don't see it hitting quite that high.

that would make sense if the OD ratio changed, but it's the exact same. the OD gear ratio for the outgoing 5-speed auto (5th gear) and the new 8-speed auto (8th gear) are both .67:1.

so unless they've made some drastic changes to the aero of the vehicle, which would probably limit it's abilities as an off road rig, i don't see it hitting quite that high.

Numerically lower final drive gears which are easy to pull off with diesel torque. The extra few gears in the middle provide better pull off of the bottom so you don't actually lose any performance by going to a numerically lower final drive ratio, but still get increased fuel mileage.

With all the new diesel emmision crap they put on modern diesel engines and the price for repairs on them, you wont see me buying ANYTHING diesel. The DEF alone is reason enough for me.

I know its an old thread, but this statement is too retarded to let go. DEF fluid is extremely cheap. Given that the dosing rate is ~2%, at a combined 28mpg, the Grand Cherokee would only use a gallon of DEF in 1,400 miles.

You're bitching about spending an extra $2.75 for 1,400 miles of driving... When any other engine option will cost you MANY times that on the FIRST fill up. :huh:

Wasn't the last diesel/Jeep a total flop? How many years did that even last :eyes:

Wasn't the last diesel/Jeep a total flop? How many years did that even last

I wouldn't really compare old diesel engines with the current ones being developed today. They are light years in terms of reliability, so we shall see how they turn out.

I will be keeping my eye on how this develops as I am waiting very unpaitiently for the Jeep diesel option as a replacement for my current 2012 GC. That thing gets me mid-high 20s on the highway (albeit on cheaper 87 gas), so can't imagine what the same vehicle but with a smaller diesel and 8 speed would get. More money I save driving the DD means more money I can dump into my toy, so I'm all for economy.

Wasn't the last diesel/Jeep a total flop? How many years did that even last :eyes:

Hi: They were produced for North America in 2007 and 2008. I have a 2008 Grand Cherokee diesel with 100k miles on it and it runs fine. As you may know the engine is from Mercedes, same basic unit used in the Sprinter van. This is a pre-Blu tech version. It's pulls strong. I get 20+ in the city and 23 highway. Others have reported higher highway mileage but they may live in flatter terrain than I do.

It may have been a sales flop because Jeep charged a big premium for them and fuel was cheaper then. Jeep has also had a schizoid relationship with diesels. They have tried them in the Cherokee (Renault engine), Liberty (VM Motori engine) and the GC (Mercedes engine). Maybe they will get serious this time.

People still ask me "Isn't it smokey and smelly?" Nope, it ain't. Although the exhaust occasionally smell like bleach; weird, beats me why, but happens with VW TDI engines too.

The coming of the 2014 option for diesel sounds pretty good. My problem with it would be the rarity of the VM engines in this country. Chrysler has used them for many years in Europe; a German friend of mine had a Dodge Caravan with a VM 4 cyl turbo diesel ~30 years ago. Not like mine where I can get parts from Mercedes or a Sprinter dealer if I have to. I wish they would have used the current Mercedes engine - 445 lb ft torque from 3 litres!

I wish they would have used the current Mercedes engine - 445 lb ft torque from 3 litres!

The 3.0 V6 VM Motori diesel makes 406lb/ft of torque, and comes from a company that Fiat owns. It also gives the Grand a very nice 23/33mpg rating.

The new Jeep Cherokee looks very cool, but would you guys buy one? http://www.teknikensvarld.se/bildgalleri/jeep-grand-cherokee-moose-test/