6.0L Turbo build plan: Costs added up
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6.0L Turbo build plan: Costs added up
Hey All,
I've spent hundreds of hours reading and learning from all the great minds on this board, and really appreciate all the wisdom and knowledge. I'm planning my first LS turbo build and thought I should give back a bit on what I've learned so far.
I picked up a 135K mile 6.0L junkyard LQ9 from a 2003 Silverado for $800. Plan is to replace the 350/700R4 in my 69 Camaro. Stock crank/stock 317 heads, 100% street car setup for suspension/handling. Looking for 600-700rwhp. No drag slicks. No hard launches.
With a little help from LS1NOVA (thanks!), here is my parts list so far (not including junkyard block). Hope this helps others!
(...of course any advice is welcome too).
Parts/prices sourced from variety of places.
Wiseco Forged Pistons
$752
Callies Compstar Rods
$589
Clevite Rod Bearings
$28
Clevite Main Bearings
$89
LS9 Head Gaskets
$118
LS7 Lifter kit
$140
Custom Grind Cam
226/230 .585/.592 114+2LSA
$390
ARP Main Studs
$220
ARP Head Studs
$285
Lunati Dual Valve Spring Kit
$200
Comp Cams pushrods
$96.95
Heavy Duty timing chain
Lingenfelter
$50
DuraBond Cam Bearings
$30
Bosch 80lb injector set
$600
LS1 Intake manifold used (hopefully with rails)
ebay
$325
Cable Throttle body
$100-$500 depending on used/aftermarket?
Say $300...
Walbro 255 External pump (X2)
$200
Hobbs boost pressure switch (to activate fuel pump #2)
$30
Rail to fuel line adapter
$12
Fuel Pressure Regulator
$30
Truck ECM
junkyard
$30
Wiring harness
PSI Conversions (ebay)
$500
Intake air temp sensor
$20
Manifold O2 sensor (X2)
Stock sensors after exhaust manifolds
$66
Downpipe Wideband O2 sensor
For air/fuel tuning
$60
2-Bar MAP Sensor
Plugs into intake manifold
$50
Engine parts total $5211
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Precision 7675 single turbo
$1440
[[OPTIONAL: twin turbo route - NOT included in totals]]
Precision 6076 (X2)
($650ea)
$1300
Treadstone intercooler
$408
RPS Blowoff Valve
$100
Precision Turbo PW46 46mm Wastegate PBO085-2000
$315
Misc Hoses/fittings/etc
$300
Turbo Parts Total $2563
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4L80e Rebuilt
local craigslist or somewhere
$650
Yank PY3400 converter (not sure I need this much stall)
$950
LS1/4L80 Flexplate
$150
Trans Parts Total $1750
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Everything Total So Far $9524
Still needed:
1. Misc hoses/fittings/turbo hotside/coldside piping, etc.
2. Engine block machining/hone/cleanup
3. Fuel lines/filters
4. Driveshaft upgrade
5. Motor mounts
6. Professional tuning when everything is done
I've spent hundreds of hours reading and learning from all the great minds on this board, and really appreciate all the wisdom and knowledge. I'm planning my first LS turbo build and thought I should give back a bit on what I've learned so far.
I picked up a 135K mile 6.0L junkyard LQ9 from a 2003 Silverado for $800. Plan is to replace the 350/700R4 in my 69 Camaro. Stock crank/stock 317 heads, 100% street car setup for suspension/handling. Looking for 600-700rwhp. No drag slicks. No hard launches.
With a little help from LS1NOVA (thanks!), here is my parts list so far (not including junkyard block). Hope this helps others!
(...of course any advice is welcome too).
Parts/prices sourced from variety of places.
Wiseco Forged Pistons
$752
Callies Compstar Rods
$589
Clevite Rod Bearings
$28
Clevite Main Bearings
$89
LS9 Head Gaskets
$118
LS7 Lifter kit
$140
Custom Grind Cam
226/230 .585/.592 114+2LSA
$390
ARP Main Studs
$220
ARP Head Studs
$285
Lunati Dual Valve Spring Kit
$200
Comp Cams pushrods
$96.95
Heavy Duty timing chain
Lingenfelter
$50
DuraBond Cam Bearings
$30
Bosch 80lb injector set
$600
LS1 Intake manifold used (hopefully with rails)
ebay
$325
Cable Throttle body
$100-$500 depending on used/aftermarket?
Say $300...
Walbro 255 External pump (X2)
$200
Hobbs boost pressure switch (to activate fuel pump #2)
$30
Rail to fuel line adapter
$12
Fuel Pressure Regulator
$30
Truck ECM
junkyard
$30
Wiring harness
PSI Conversions (ebay)
$500
Intake air temp sensor
$20
Manifold O2 sensor (X2)
Stock sensors after exhaust manifolds
$66
Downpipe Wideband O2 sensor
For air/fuel tuning
$60
2-Bar MAP Sensor
Plugs into intake manifold
$50
Engine parts total $5211
----------------------------------------
Precision 7675 single turbo
$1440
[[OPTIONAL: twin turbo route - NOT included in totals]]
Precision 6076 (X2)
($650ea)
$1300
Treadstone intercooler
$408
RPS Blowoff Valve
$100
Precision Turbo PW46 46mm Wastegate PBO085-2000
$315
Misc Hoses/fittings/etc
$300
Turbo Parts Total $2563
---------------------------------------------
4L80e Rebuilt
local craigslist or somewhere
$650
Yank PY3400 converter (not sure I need this much stall)
$950
LS1/4L80 Flexplate
$150
Trans Parts Total $1750
-------------------------------------------
Everything Total So Far $9524
Still needed:
1. Misc hoses/fittings/turbo hotside/coldside piping, etc.
2. Engine block machining/hone/cleanup
3. Fuel lines/filters
4. Driveshaft upgrade
5. Motor mounts
6. Professional tuning when everything is done
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Yeah, its amazing how quickly it adds up once you actually make a list. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I'm forgetting too. Just thought this would add some perspective for others trying to plan a "budget" {wink}{wink} build.
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171-CB-663P Clevite Rod Bearnings $3.50ea from Texas Speed.
Yeah the cylinders are pretty clean, may need just a light hone. I'm halfway considering just cleaning up the stock pistons/rods and putting it back together. See how long it lasts.
...there has to be a cheaper way to do this.
Yeah the cylinders are pretty clean, may need just a light hone. I'm halfway considering just cleaning up the stock pistons/rods and putting it back together. See how long it lasts.
...there has to be a cheaper way to do this.
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Sometimes you can save money using craigslist or going to a swap meet. I picked up a Leigenfelter intake with 90mm cable throttle body for 450 on CL. 4l80e as well for 350 with a fresh rebuild; wasn't certain the man was for real but bought the tranny anyways, tore into it and found all transgo gaskets and then sent it to tranny shop for shift kit to learn that the rebuild was really fresh.
Sometimes you can get lucky!
I'll say so far I've spent 9200 on engine (forged but factory crank), tranny fuel system and turbo and around 14000+ total....and still going. I expect the total for completion to be at least 20g's if not more.
My opinion for the single vs. twin is go twin! I've been considering getting another turbo and having a twin set up. My goal was to keep ac and with the manifolds flipped it wasn't happening, so single for me.
Sometimes you can get lucky!
I'll say so far I've spent 9200 on engine (forged but factory crank), tranny fuel system and turbo and around 14000+ total....and still going. I expect the total for completion to be at least 20g's if not more.
My opinion for the single vs. twin is go twin! I've been considering getting another turbo and having a twin set up. My goal was to keep ac and with the manifolds flipped it wasn't happening, so single for me.
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Ya these builds are expensive I am just about done with mine it took longer and about twice as much. Just stay on here and look for used parts all the time. Did you get the motor from a silverado from a ss? If not its a lq4. The 9 only came in escalades and the ss trucks. Not that its a big deal either way. That 69 Camaro is going to be insane!!! Good luck
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It's easy to forget about the little stuff adding up. Just look at the price of fuel line fittings. It's easy to add many hundreds there. Block work, oh that's $500 more. Need good piston rings, that's another $300... never seems to end.
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sorry but 10K for a engine swap is crazy...you paid 800 for a junkyard motor...run it...your new to turbos so why burn up a good built motor. you can save $2000 just buy running a cheaper turbo ($250 gt45 clone) and cxracing intercooler kit.
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IAT sensor you can get from the junkyard for like 1 dollar too.
get a LS1 intake on here, ls1 tech, much cheaper than ebay, i got mine for 60 dollars with no throttle body, but the truck one bolts right up to it, then i bought ebay 5/8ths rails for like 100 shipped and did an aeromotive regulator and parker push lock fuel lines
that custom 226/230 is very close to a 225/225 cam that people nearly give away in classifieds, see if you can scrounge one up in there for like 130-200
get a LS1 intake on here, ls1 tech, much cheaper than ebay, i got mine for 60 dollars with no throttle body, but the truck one bolts right up to it, then i bought ebay 5/8ths rails for like 100 shipped and did an aeromotive regulator and parker push lock fuel lines
that custom 226/230 is very close to a 225/225 cam that people nearly give away in classifieds, see if you can scrounge one up in there for like 130-200
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Beautiful car!! I am building a 67 twin turbo now. Sounds like your power goals should be pretty easy! I wont have mine done for a while but I went with twins for a street car because I want less lag and more fun.
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Also, my 700R4 is built, so I could probably get away with keeping that too for awhile.
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IAT sensor you can get from the junkyard for like 1 dollar too.
get a LS1 intake on here, ls1 tech, much cheaper than ebay, i got mine for 60 dollars with no throttle body, but the truck one bolts right up to it, then i bought ebay 5/8ths rails for like 100 shipped and did an aeromotive regulator and parker push lock fuel lines
that custom 226/230 is very close to a 225/225 cam that people nearly give away in classifieds, see if you can scrounge one up in there for like 130-200
get a LS1 intake on here, ls1 tech, much cheaper than ebay, i got mine for 60 dollars with no throttle body, but the truck one bolts right up to it, then i bought ebay 5/8ths rails for like 100 shipped and did an aeromotive regulator and parker push lock fuel lines
that custom 226/230 is very close to a 225/225 cam that people nearly give away in classifieds, see if you can scrounge one up in there for like 130-200