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Old 10-02-2012, 03:16 PM
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2000 ws6. M6 45,000 miles. Besides upgrades below everything else is stock. Minus bigger tires.

-Texas Speed LT's
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-Magnaflow Catback
-Cold Air Intake
-Street Tune
-Plus a couple free mods.

This winter I want to make this thing naughty, I have a local that rips around in his ugly lime green Crustang that's worked and I want to blow his *** away lol!

I bought an ls6 intake. In the process of finding a set of 243's. and the cams I have been looking into are the POLLUTER, 228R, TORQUER V2, MS4, and more but those are the main ones.

It's my WW car. I don't want to lose a whole lot of street manners. This car might make it to the track for a couple runs but really not too interested. Also I don't want to drag *** in low rpms. Do you think the cams are too big for my purpose?

What kind of numbers am I looking at? Are the 243's a must? Or are stock heads "ok", is cam alone possible? Looking for 425+ rwhp. Anyone with simar setups please don't be afraid to chime in!! Videos are also greatly appreciated!

Also another sub topic would be supporting mods/suspension but mainly looking to get the H/C swap done. I will have to wait for more funds next year for another project. Good knowledge to have tho.

Lets get this thing rolling and on its way!
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i have the 235/240 tsunami cam and its pretty streetable but I also have a 383, I would get a bigger intake. I have the H/C/I swap and that intake is dragging me way down. with my set up i make 450rwhp.
My Set up
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Texas Speed & Performance 7.40 Chromemoly Pushrod, Per Pushrod, MGW Shifter, SLP Headers, TSP True Duals, SLP Lid, LS6 Intake swap. RAM powergrip clutch. ASP underdrive pulley.
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So an ls6 is not enough for those cams?
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Not really I only made 450 and I kno thats because the intake is not enough
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I got a deal for an ls6 intake and 243 heads ready to be put on from my buddy for $850.. What do you think?

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im doing ms3 cam, stage 3 241 heads, and long tubes.
hoping for 420 to the wheels.
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i heard ls6 intake could b sold at a fair price for 300-350, which means your paying about 500 for heads. Depends on how used and such. Also not sure on price for 243 heads so I would compare pricing.
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250 for intake, 600 for heads. I'm getting the intake from my friend and he's getting the heads for me from his machinist.
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250 for intake, 600 for heads. I'm getting the intake from my friend and he's getting the heads for me from his machinist.
thats a good deal, they sell used for up to 450, some people are quite "proud" of what they have. I've seen great results with the 228 cam and full supporting bolt ons even without the 243s. Obviously you're getting a good deal on them so they're only going to help.

You should make some good power. I have a 224 cam and have seen people with it make damn near 400 to the wheels with full bolt ons and a good tune. I think you should make over that with a good tune with those heads with the ls6.
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Lets hope so! Getting the intake this morning and the heads this weekend. Now to pick the right cam?!?! Can anybody chime in on that with my goals in mind?? I have pretty broad goals and am not very picky. I just want it to be steetable.

Also while doing this swap is there anything else I should look into replacing while all this is taken apart or anything else that should be done with the swap that is necessary?
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ARP bolts, ls7 valley covers to stop any oil from splashing around, i love my tsunami cam, clean everything while your in there 2. im still new at this so thats all i got at 4 am lol
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Haha thanks dude, I work nights so I'm up all night!
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Originally Posted by RebelMan666
Also while doing this swap is there anything else I should look into replacing while all this is taken apart or anything else that should be done with the swap that is necessary?
lifters, trays, rods, springs, etc... im replacing all of it, mainly due to the
higher mileage on my ls1.
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Originally Posted by RebelMan666
I bought an ls6 intake. In the process of finding a set of 243's. and the cams I have been looking into are the POLLUTER, 228R, TORQUER V2, MS4, and more but those are the main ones.

It's my WW car. I don't want to lose a whole lot of street manners. This car might make it to the track for a couple runs but really not too interested. Also I don't want to drag *** in low rpms. Do you think the cams are too big for my purpose?
Im gonna do the EPS 236/248 cam (the reason i chose that one is cause the rpm range is 1800-7200 so i dont lose it in the low end, and the cam is supposed to have less wear on the valve train) with PRC 225cc heads, and a FAST 92/92 setup. Also doing the TSP 1 7/8" headers and then the Rumbler X true duals. Im hoping to make 450whp+ although im not sure how much it will affect mpg or if your even concerned with that.
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I had the 228r cam in my old SS and it put down 401rwhp 390 tq that's with a BBK intake, Kooks headers & ORY, Asp underdrive pulley and a light weight flywheel.
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Originally Posted by KingPin1094
Im gonna do the EPS 236/248 cam (the reason i chose that one is cause the rpm range is 1800-7200 so i dont lose it in the low end, and the cam is supposed to have less wear on the valve train) with PRC 225cc heads, and a FAST 92/92 setup. Also doing the TSP 1 7/8" headers and then the Rumbler X true duals. Im hoping to make 450whp+ although im not sure how much it will affect mpg or if your even concerned with that.
I will definitely look into that cam. I think the 228r is a little small for what I'm looking for. 450 rwhp is about what I'm looking for. The only things is that I want to lose little streetability. MPG I'd like to stay in the mid to high teens. I'm averaging 21 right now on country roads.
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You just need to send those stock 243s to somebody and let the port and polish them into shape. You can also get them to sink the valves so you can shave the heads for a little bit more compression. You might want to flycut your pistons for the same reason and PTV clearance. When you buy your cam go ahead and buy the cam kit, bolts and gaskets from the same place. It's cheaper pricewise and you'll know that everthing is going to work together as expected. I you buy an EPS cam don't buy what the other guy runs because that cam was speced for their ride and its intention. Pay the $25.00 and get one speced for your cars setup.
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^^^ Port the heads and mill them enough to get the compression up over 11:1(an flycut pistons). That way you can run a slightly wider lsa and larger cam while keeping more driveability and lowend power than if you kept it at a stock compression ratio. I say then go with a Trq.v.2 w/113-114lsa(or a very similar sized cam), that's a big as I would go, and at least get 3.90 gears. With stock compression and gears I'd go with a 228/228 or 228/232 w/111-112lsa (or a very similar sized cam).
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I would run 4.10s with that set-up. Great gear for an M6. Also, I hope you have the 1 7/8" headers.
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if you're looking for peak power, you'll get it with the MS3..



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