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Old 10-03-2012, 10:42 AM
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2000 ws6. M6 45,000 miles. Besides upgrades below everything else is stock. Minus bigger tires.

-Texas Speed LT's
-Texas Speed ORY
-CutoutS
-Magnaflow Catback
-Cold Air Intake
-Street Tune
-Plus a couple free mods.

This winter I want to make this thing naughty, I have a local that rips around in his ugly lime green Crustang that's worked and I want to blow his *** away lol!

I bought an ls6 intake. In the process of finding a set of 243's. and the cams I have been looking into are the POLLUTER, 228R, TORQUER V2, MS4, and more but those are the main ones.

It's my WW car. I don't want to lose a whole lot of street manners. This car might make it to the track for a couple runs but really not too interested. Also I don't want to drag *** in low rpms. Do you think the cams are too big for my purpose?

What kind of numbers am I looking at? Are the 243's a must? Or are stock heads "ok", is cam alone possible? Looking for 425+ rwhp. Anyone with simar setups please don't be afraid to chime in!! Videos are also greatly appreciated!

Also another sub topic would be supporting mods/suspension but mainly looking to get the H/C swap done. I will have to wait for more funds next year for another project. Good knowledge to have tho.

Lets get this thing rolling and on its way!

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Just bought an ls6 intake and I'm having a set of 243"s out to get shaved. Need help with my cam choice and any other necessary parts or supporting mods.
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I am in the same boat pretty much, I want over 400rwhp but still retain drivability. Ill be following this
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I think the MS4 and Polluter will be to big for what you want. The 228r is very popular and great all around cam, my buddy just put one in his car and loves it. The V2 is another in the same category, good street manner with a good tune(no personal experience) but from the research I have done people love it. Another one you might want to look at is the New era performance street sweeper HT. I just put one in my car and it feels really good even though its not tuned yet. Just do your research and look at dyno graphs. These three will probably be your best bet. There are obviously more but I dont have much experience with any others.
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I wouldn't recommend any of them unless you plan on upgrading your clutch, slave solenoid, and master cylinder for the transmission as well. You might as well figure on a new rear end too. Otherwise you are just going to break on the line should you ever hook her up.
I like my torquer v2 with PRC heads. With a 6 speed it would have put down somewhere around 450 rwhp.
Just consider that automatics are easier on rear ends than sticks and that mine is now broke from flashing it off the line with m/t et streets. Not to mention that my 9 bolt is stronger than your 10 bolt.
Good luck either way.
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Originally Posted by sokr915
I think the MS4 and Polluter will be to big for what you want. The 228r is very popular and great all around cam, my buddy just put one in his car and loves it. The V2 is another in the same category, good street manner with a good tune(no personal experience) but from the research I have done people love it. Another one you might want to look at is the New era performance street sweeper HT. I just put one in my car and it feels really good even though its not tuned yet. Just do your research and look at dyno graphs. These three will probably be your best bet. There are obviously more but I dont have much experience with any others.
This. I have a MS3 and it takes too long to come on. Ill be swapping to a T V.2/3, Streetsweeper HT, F13/14 228R or something in that range.

With the donkey dick cams you'll want steep gears, heads and intake for it to run right. Street light to street light I like something torqier such as the cams listed.
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Yep. Scratch MS4 off the list for sure. I was actually going to say either 228R, Street Sweeper HT (as mentioned by sokr915) or if getting a Torqer, the V3. It has a bit more lift but it has a hair advantage in the midrange compared to the V2.

Then again, you can always get a hold of PatrickG, Ed Curtis, or whoever you like for cams and tell them what you have and what your goals are.

Nothing beats an optimized system, set up to your goals and driving habits.
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Are you gonn change rearend or put bigger gears in it?and you said bigger back tires what size?
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We'll when the rear goes I guess it will be time to upgrade . I don't know about gears yet I haven't put much thought into it. As for tires I only have a little bigger than stock with 285's. (might go 315's down the road at some point)

I have read that the torquer v2 is a little tricky when it comes to low range RPM, anyone else? I don't want to lose too much in that aspect. Is the torquer v3 in that same boat as the v2? I haven't looked into the street sweeper but the 228r has been talked about all over with good results. This is the first time hearing about the F13/14.

I'm looking to gain as much overall possible without losing a whole lot of low range.

SOKR915- when will you be getting it tuned??
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Obviously PP the heads will give me more of a gain but would it help with low range as well in the bigger cams?
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Pat G spec'd ma a 226/230 114 .600 cam that drives like a dream, and well, I'm knocking on the tens.

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maybe look at a TSP torquer v3 or a streetsweeper cam from ed curtis.
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Originally Posted by RebelMan666
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SOKR915- when will you be getting it tuned??
I am still trying to figure that out. I am not sure if I want to bring it somewhere or buy HP tuners and learn how to tune myself. I am leaning toward the HP tuners. Hopefully I will be able to make up my mind soon.
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Alright so we narrowed the cam list down now lol. I think im going to start looking into the torquer 3, the 228R, the street sweeper HT and then there's another street sweeper cam? Anybody have good input? Thoughts?
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The other street sweeper is a bit too big for your goals.

Street Sweeper Specs: 236*-240*-111*-.631"-.610"

Street Sweeper HT Specs: 228*-232*-111*-.612"-.600"

TSP Torquer V3 Specs: 231/234 .643/598

I vote SSHT. It's been dubbed by many as a great all around cam. So has the 228R though. It's all up to you.

Either way, go with a QUALITY dual valvespring kit. BT Racing has some great kits at awesome prices.
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Maybe this thread will help you decide

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...0hp-409tq.html
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So the torquer v3 would be too big too you think?? Without losing streetability?
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I have a 231/238 113+3 that would make nearly the same power as the Street Sweeper has while retaining a little more drivability.

It is a good in between from our stage 1 and our Polluter V1 or V2.

I've also got a 234/240 113+4 that would work very well also.

Our cam packages are 679.99 and that includes BTR Dual Platinum springs rated to .660" lift and Manley 5/16" diameter .080" wall push rods.

I'd be willing to bet either of those two cams will make the same power or more than any of the cams mentioned in here. I'm also a lot easier to reach than some of the guys mentioned here other than Texas Speed.
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OP,

Between those choices i would definitely go with a TSP Torquer 2. 232/234. That is about as big as i would go for a daily driver.
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
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Between those choices i would definitely go with a TSP Torquer 2. 232/234. That is about as big as i would go for a daily driver.
V3 brings the powerband in a bit lower, which was the only reason I suggested it over the V2.

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