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Old 10-19-2012, 12:32 PM
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i know this is probably an all to common question asked but I'm working with a 2001 Camaro ss bone stock. where would be a good place to start to get into the 500hp range
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500rwhp? Pretty much a max-effort LS1 build, and some very, very good tuning to get there. Every bolt on, a big cam, and some really good heads.
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for that kind of power on a stock bottom end LS1 i look into a pro charger kit.
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Originally Posted by Strugar01
i know this is probably an all to common question asked but I'm working with a 2001 Camaro ss bone stock. where would be a good place to start to get into the 500hp range
better question. why 500hp? is that a number you just pulled out of the air? i find alot of people that get a car and say oh lets shoot for xxx HP and its usually 450-500. what you need to figure out first is what are your goals. street, strip or auto x? are you trying to run a certain time and trap in the 1/4? if so, picking a hp number has little to do with hitting that time, some cars make 500 and run 13's some run 10's. are you open to forced induction and nitrous or do you want and all motor build. is it going to be dailyed and how friendly on the street do you want it to be when driving? no offense but i see plenty of people that come on here every day and ask whats it take to hit 500 and theyve never felt a solid 400rwhp in these f bodys. start by giving your goals and IMO i would get to 400rwhp first, and you will probably find that to be more power than you thought and will have plenty of kick to take down newer modded cars out right now. just my 2 cents.
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you will need some ported heads and a custom cam .get a fast intake with a matching TB.you will need bigger injectors and fuel pump.check the dyno section.Martin at Tick made 500 rwhp with his custom cam.
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In order to make 500rwhp on a stock bottom end you will need the best heads with a huge cam, and everything money can buy and some really good tuning. I would look into forced induction to reach that goal easily. There are very few LS1's making 500rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Strugar01
i know this is probably an all to common question asked but I'm working with a 2001 Camaro ss bone stock. where would be a good place to start to get into the 500hp range
500 rwhp N/A, is going to be expensive!
IMO, you shouldnt go with a donkey dick cam, i would suggest something mild like a 224 or 228 cam instead. You'll peak at around 65 66K rpm, and not stress out your bottom end too much.
To reach your goals, here is what i would suggest... 224 cam, Lt's, y pipe, cutout, Lid, below, pnp TB, 862 or 243 heads CnC'd, Free mods, Dynotune. That alone, should put you at 425ish in a Auto, and around 445 In a M6. Hook up a dry 100 shot, and you are there. Spray is by far the cheapest way to make hp, but you must be tuned for it or have a module to be active once you hit the n20 switch, while still keeping your N/A tune to its full potential.

I'd say with an investment no greater than $2,500, you should be right around 500rwhp if you do most of the work yourself.

Good luck!
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A big cam with top end heads might get you close on a happy dyno. If you are on a mustang dyno I would say its not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
A big cam with top end heads might get you close on a happy dyno. If you are on a mustang dyno I would say its not going to happen.
MD stock cubes 500rw i dont think has ever happened NA legitimately.
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
A big cam with top end heads might get you close on a happy dyno. If you are on a mustang dyno I would say its not going to happen.
exactly lol. if your just trying to get a sheet of paper that says 500rwhp then find a number fluffing dyno and pay the guy 50 bucks extra. hell pay him 100 and your dyno readout will say 1500rwhp lol. dyno numbers are in reality somewhat useless. its time slips and trap speeds that show a cars true capability. i mean can a dyno tell if the suspension is setup correctly if at all? what about if youve got sticky tires or street tires? how about a drivers skill and ability, plus how well he knows how to launch and drive his car. what about a cars weight? for instance take this into account, one of my vehicles makes 506hp and 510 TQ crank at 5600rpms. this vehicle also runs a mid 13. why? because its my srt10 dodge ram and it weighs 5600lbs without me in it. just one of many things that a dyno sheet cant tell you.

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i think i had a spike to 900 lbs of torque for about 100 RPMs.
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
exactly lol. if your just trying to get a sheet of paper that says 500rwhp then find a number fluffing dyno and pay the guy 50 bucks extra. hell pay him 100 and your dyno readout will say 1500rwhp lol. dyno numbers are in reality somewhat useless. its time slips and trap speeds that show a cars true capability.
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I would just stick with something street friendly a mild cam and port the stock heads no need to go completely apeshit because you will go broke in no time.Get some good control arms and a set of drag radials with a mild setup and you will reach 400-415hp like these guys say don't get too hung up on numbers cause hell I've seen 380hp cars wear out 500hp cars because the combination was balanced out and thought through.
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Cam only + bolt ons + 100 shot... done
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Originally Posted by bestlude
Cam only + bolt ons + 100 shot... done
id get heads too but i agree.
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I'm making around 470rwhp with the following.

TFS 220CC Heads milled to 61cc 11.3 static
Custom Cam 234/239 .620/.638 112+3 (spec'd by Martin @ TICK)
Fast 102/92 intake.
ASP Underdrive

I'm still using the stock maf/SLP lid. I have a 85mm MAF and 98mm FTP I"m about to install in the next few weeks.

To get near to your goals your going to need some well matched parts.

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whats your budget ?consider more cubes with a stroker short block .look at Texas Speeds website for stroker rotating to do 383 with your current block ,or a stroker short block based on a ls2 block.



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