4.10's or 3.73's best match for cam?
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4.10's or 3.73's best match for cam?
Things have changed since the build as far as its not my daily driver anymore and looking for the best quarter mile time. Im going with a ss4000 stall and was dead set on 3.73 but now its off insurance and will only be seeing the strip now.. is it best to match the rear end gears to be at the top of third at the 1/4 mark and to accomplish that will 4.10's be the ticket?
Stock gear ratios in a 4l60e
226/234 cam shift points 6600 rpm
Goal hitting traps around 6450 6550 rpm.
Wheel is a 18inch y2k with drag radial for now..
I live in 5800 da average so mph is around 115-117
If i do go to sea level mayby i should also take that into mind that i will be trapping 120'+ there.
Guys with 4/60 e what rpm are you trapping with what gear ratio thanks in advance.
Stock gear ratios in a 4l60e
226/234 cam shift points 6600 rpm
Goal hitting traps around 6450 6550 rpm.
Wheel is a 18inch y2k with drag radial for now..
I live in 5800 da average so mph is around 115-117
If i do go to sea level mayby i should also take that into mind that i will be trapping 120'+ there.
Guys with 4/60 e what rpm are you trapping with what gear ratio thanks in advance.
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I think 4.10s would be better than 3.73s if you are staying NA. If you're going to spray it go with 3.73s. For a drag only car those 18" rims are not going to help you out, they're too big in dia. A 15" rim and some slicks with a sidewall will hook up best. 4.10s with a 26" tire will get you 123 mph at 6500. To hit 117 @ 6500 you need an even steeper gear. Check this gear calculator out, http://www.f-body.org/gears/
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Flip a coin. Like stated above NA the 4'10s will work . I don't think you'll hook on the 18" drag radial with them. I haven't been able too. On slicks the car went 1'4s in Nov. The 4.10s are a little much with the 3.06 1st of the 60E. On spray you'll for sure run out of 3rd gear. I like the 60E ,looking into the 2.85 plantetry gear set for them from RPM.
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Yea if my money pans out right im going to get some 15's and a slick for sure and that is what im afraid of doing by getting a 150 shot or anything else. Mayby 3.73's will be a better choice
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Looks like you have a pretty solid combo im sure in the future ill do a bigger cubed bigger higher revving cam. Nothing is set n stone so 4.10' s will work nice for now plus i like the idea of them. I have ran 2.73's for four years and having an extreme change will be nice.
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Theres a lot more then just that. Stall speed , how hard the car launches, how fast the engine revs. Put a higher flowing intake and see what happens. The LS1 intake is choking it. Can 4'10s work sure but every combo is different.
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No there isn't anything more than that. 4.10s will go mid-high 120s with a 28" tire and a 4000 stall. 3.90s would be ideal but like me he can't use them as they don't make a 3.90 fora 2 series carrier.
Btw I have another 150HP this year, and a super victor, still keeping the 4.10s
Btw I have another 150HP this year, and a super victor, still keeping the 4.10s
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another thing, you stated you will be going with bigger cubes in the future, so any new setup you do will likely rev to 7000 or so. Im planning my new setup to turn to 7400 and even with 10% slippage I am looking to go mid 130s
A little more gear allows you go go with a lower stall or more importantly a lower stall ratio and maintain the 60' while getting a much better coupling up top and a couple more mph. makes it better from a roll as well
A little more gear allows you go go with a lower stall or more importantly a lower stall ratio and maintain the 60' while getting a much better coupling up top and a couple more mph. makes it better from a roll as well
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It doesn't on my combo with 28/10/16s. Its way past 6k in 3rd on motor. On spray its close to 7k way past the power band of my motor and intake.
I'm hitting 3rd right at the 1/8 mile stripe running NA. Car was set up for 1/8 mile index racing on spray.
With the plastic intake your not making power past 6200 its already layed down and just making noise.
I'm hitting 3rd right at the 1/8 mile stripe running NA. Car was set up for 1/8 mile index racing on spray.
With the plastic intake your not making power past 6200 its already layed down and just making noise.
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No there isn't anything more than that. 4.10s will go mid-high 120s with a 28" tire and a 4000 stall. 3.90s would be ideal but like me he can't use them as they don't make a 3.90 fora 2 series carrier.
Btw I have another 150HP this year, and a super victor, still keeping the 4.10s
Btw I have another 150HP this year, and a super victor, still keeping the 4.10s
I run in the 127-130 range on motor. I'm also way past the power band of the engine. The Victor likes RPM so yes I would run them or maybe even more.
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my old converter was 3% slip it was very efficient and would pull 1.60-1.62 60' with that setup every time. I crossed the stripe at just below 6100 at 120mph. The OP's desired 6600rpm limit with 5% converter slippage would be right around 127. Remeber he has a high DA and only expects to trap 120 on motor. Would take a good jet to get to 130
28" tire with 4.10s direct no slip
5900 120
6000 122
6100 124
6200 126
6300 128
6400 130
6500 132
6600 134
6700 136
6800 138
6900 140
7000 142
7100 144
7200 146
7300 148
7400 150
28" tire with 4.10s direct no slip
5900 120
6000 122
6100 124
6200 126
6300 128
6400 130
6500 132
6600 134
6700 136
6800 138
6900 140
7000 142
7100 144
7200 146
7300 148
7400 150
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Yea i played with gear calculator a little bit. With my setup as is on a mail order tune and 2.73 gear and 2800 stall i had a 60' was a 2.1 and i trapped 114 shifting 6450 6500. With a full tune, more weight reduction, ram air setup im planning on trapping 117 (goal). 6000 DA sucks. I think 4.10's will work nice if i hate em ill switch to 3.73's