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Old 12-27-2012, 09:39 AM
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This is some good info thought I'd share http://www.camaro-transam.com/foro/s...ad.php?t=16871

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You know a well respected member here that I met at the track once, told me he didn't believe weight was really all that big a deal. Probably felt that way because his 600+lbs lighter car was slower in the quarter though.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
You know a well respected member here that I met at the track once, told me he didn't believe weight was really all that big a deal. Probably felt that way because his 600+lbs lighter car was slower in the quarter though.
Lmao wow. Maybe his setup isn't correct...
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Weight is everything. 100 percent reliable. The only thing that sucks is the price for the strut/spindle setups and the light wieght brake packages. My motor is nothing special, just a mild 396 I daily drove in a convertible. In my drag car it runs 9.6@136 my mph is low compared to the heavier cars, but I'm not pushing my motor much.
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depends on where its located as well......

if you have a 3200# car at 60/40 and a 2700 lb car at 46/54


These things can get very complex and many rules are not set in stone, lots of variables.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
You know a well respected member here that I met at the track once, told me he didn't believe weight was really all that big a deal. Probably felt that way because his 600+lbs lighter car was slower in the quarter though.
If a car is heavier then mine, the weight doesn't matter and they should run me anyway. If its lighter, then its a huge deal and I get the hit .

Drag racing 101!
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I'll give anyone the hit, won't matter in the 1/8.
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Originally Posted by fex77k
weight is everything. 100 percent reliable. The only thing that sucks is the price for the strut/spindle setups and the light wieght brake packages..


hopefully next year ill be near the actual weight limit for my class was 3275 this year hoping to be at 3175 next year running alot faster


also......not to try to be a dick but the math in that thread does not work correctly.......the weight/hp thing is not linear math due to the weight variable changing.......ie at 3000lbs and 300hp theory in that thread says 10lbs is worth 1hp........well ok pull out 100lbs now your at 2900 and 300hp.......now 1hp is worth 9.6lbs....follow me?
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
also......not to try to be a dick but the math in that thread does not work correctly.......the weight/hp thing is not linear math due to the weight variable changing.......ie at 3000lbs and 300hp theory in that thread says 10lbs is worth 1hp........well ok pull out 100lbs now your at 2900 and 300hp.......now 1hp is worth 9.6lbs....follow me?
Add the fact that you are trying to push all that weight through the air.......
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losing weight definitely helps. but it does affect cars differently based on the combination.
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It make a difference for sure. As long as you can control your traction that is
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Originally Posted by fex77k
Weight is everything. 100 percent reliable. The only thing that sucks is the price for the strut/spindle setups and the light wieght brake packages. My motor is nothing special, just a mild 396 I daily drove in a convertible. In my drag car it runs 9.6@136 my mph is low compared to the heavier cars, but I'm not pushing my motor much.
you are right in there on MPH
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
Add the fact that you are trying to push all that weight through the air.......

and air is another thing that has a non-linear effect, the faster a car is the more it needs aerodynamic attention.
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I always heard 100lbs is a tenth or car length. Dont know if thats true, ill find out soon.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
and air is another thing that has a non-linear effect, the faster a car is the more it needs aerodynamic attention.
Or more HP........
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
and air is another thing that has a non-linear effect, the faster a car is the more it needs aerodynamic attention.
My car has ran 8.2 on a BBC, but since it still has stock body lines I won't run the 1/4 on BBC. After 160 it gets a bit out of shape.
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
you are right in there on MPH
i got more mph than that but i cant run that fast lol

Originally Posted by Meen95z
I always heard 100lbs is a tenth or car length. Dont know if thats true, ill find out soon.
ehhh......it is when they are running slower down in that 12-14 sec range, the faster you go the less that works....100lbs out of my car is worth about .07 now from what i gander
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
i got more mph than that but i cant run that fast lol

I'd love to borrow your motor and see what it would do in my junk.

ehhh......it is when they are running slower down in that 12-14 sec range, the faster you go the less that works....100lbs out of my car is worth about .07 now from what i gander
Definately.

The faster your times the more this fall off.
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Any rotating weight is worth a lot more than non
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and then within rotating weight the further that weight is from center or the faster it spins matters.
IMO this is where a nice bit of the gains from a good 9.5" converter comes from, they are a lot lighter than a stocker and the weight a lot further from center than something like a driveshaft AND they are spinning faster than the crank at least until locked up in third.

Without going and weighing them let's say a 9.5" converter is 10lbs lighter(I believe this a lowball number) that 10 lbs was also 5"-6" from crank centerline and had to accelerate with the engine in every gear. Think about the amount of energy used to take that 10lbs to go from 2000 to 7000 in a couple seconds or whatever you spend in first gear and then 5000-7000 in each of 2nd and third.


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