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Old 01-09-2013, 12:16 PM
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Default Fuel rail adapter direct to hose

I've seen a number of people using the Russel quick-connect to AN adapters then an AN hose fitting, but has anyone used the adapters that go directly from quick-connect to hose? Any thoughts on how well these work?



These are listed on the Russell website in 0, 45, 90 and 180 configurations. 0degree black 3/8" EFI to -6 hose is 611203. I can't seem to find them for sale anywhere though!

*EDIT* Special ordered it through Summit. Here it is!

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I guess you are talking about high pressure rubber fuel line, and not the plastic stuff?
If so, then I have used barb fittings and high pressure fuel line in the past without a single problem. Just be sure to get fuel line clamps, and NOT hose clamps.
I maybe going that route myself on this swap (LM7 into a Range Rover).
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All I have is...quick connect/disconnect to a -6 or -8 male fitting.

http://www.racepartsolutions.com/pro...prod=FRA491990
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FRAGOLA #'s

491989-bl 3/8 /-6
491990-bl 5/16 to -6
491992-bl 3/8 to -8
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Originally Posted by leftlanetruckin
I guess you are talking about high pressure rubber fuel line, and not the plastic stuff?
If so, then I have used barb fittings and high pressure fuel line in the past without a single problem. Just be sure to get fuel line clamps, and NOT hose clamps.
I maybe going that route myself on this swap (LM7 into a Range Rover).
Martin
I am referring to AN hose. Normally you would have two fittings: the rail adapter (o-ring to male AN) then the hose end fitting (AN hose to female AN). The fittings referenced above take you directly from o-ring to AN hose. The fitting remains attached to the hose when disconnected from the fuel rail.

I understand what you're saying about high pressure rubber EFI line using EFI type hose clamps. That is a different scenario though.

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Clint.. I have seen the catalog listing, wish they had come out before I got my setup done.. It would have been nice to only buy one fitting for each connection, as compared to push-on and then an AN fitting.. Glade to see they are doing then in black also.

I am sure they will be on the market soon.. if you get them, let us know what your review is.. !.. for me, I guess they are for the next project..

BC

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I had to special order the fitting and it took some time to get here, but it's exactly what I thought it was - direct from hose to EFI o ring - and it works great. I special ordered through Summit, but anyone that carries Edelbrock/Russel products should be able to order these.
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I tought about getting those when I did my fuel lines in my fox. I ended up going from the 3/8 push on connector to 6 an male, then the 6 female to pushloc barb. Figured it would be better to unthread the fitting rather than taking the connector fitting off and on and possibly damaging the o ring after multiple install operations
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Those look good. I may have to switch to those when i run the new fuel setup.
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Clint, the number you posted, 611203, doesn't pull up a Russell fitting at Summit's site, shows Dorman lug nuts. I didn't find the fitting searching Summit, would you double check the part number. Thanks!!


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Originally Posted by Mike52
Clint, the number you posted, 611203, doesn't pull up a Russell fitting at Summit's site, shows Dorman lug nuts. I didn't find the fitting searching Summit, would you double check the part number. Thanks!!


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They don't have it in their catalog yet. It has to be special ordered. I paid $23 - pretty expensive for a fitting, but about the same as two fittings (EFI to AN, AN to hose). You can arrange to add special order items to a standard order if you chat or call.

I think a brazed AN fitting is still a very good option since AN hosing fittings are much easier to come by.

The part numbers can be found here: http://www.russellperformance.com/mc...fuel-efi.shtml
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Yep, those are the way to go. These fittings replace the earlier design, which was a push-on design that used a plastic retainer to hold it on. That earlier design had a nasty habit of popping off at the most inopportune time. I had two of them fail with 6 months of each other, on two different cars. The new design is pretty much fail proof, but I still install the retainer nut with a drop of blue locktite, just to be safe. I am surprised that they are still not in the catalog, as I have been buying them for well over a year now.


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Here is the link to it in on their web site.
http://www.russellperformance.com/mc...fuel-efi.shtml

You will notice the original design right above it, but would not recommend that fitting to anyone! The screw-on retainer style is a much better design.



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Wow those are nice, like the guy posted above shame these didn't come out sooner or else I would of ditched the two fittings for the one and saved money.
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Those suck. My buddy used them on a swap and then tightened down did not allow the hose to rotate very much. The result was the nylon pump bucket outlet snapped off. I prefer the russel ones with the plastic tabs to squeeze to unlock. They were extremely tight on the vette fuel pressure filter too. The seal one the tank outlet leaked bad too. Just my experience with the two piece design.
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I don't think your supposed to use these on plastic quick disconnects, but even then the hose shouldnt be able to rotate. If you tugged hard enough on the old design the plastic piece would pull out because it was never seated correctly
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Factory gm lines rotate easily and seal perfectly. Any hose will come apart if not seated fully. Just my preference. What plastic disconnects are you referring to ?
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These fittings turn quite well on all the cars I have done with them. The screw-on retainer does not clamp down tight on the line, if just retains it from coming off. The fitting still turns on the line, just like the original GM fitting did.


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Originally Posted by aknovaman
Factory gm lines rotate easily and seal perfectly. Any hose will come apart if not seated fully. Just my preference. What plastic disconnects are you referring to ?
The plastic part of the connector that you are referring to. There was a thread on here about their failures and luckily I went to go and check on mine and found that they were not fully seated and would work themselves out


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